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Delta Sierra Charlie 356 Mr.
Look, I am Detective Mahoney,
and this is Detective Maloney.

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I detect.

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Mr. Love, you were picked up by
one of our officers after some
complete recording.

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It seemed you were walking
around talking to yourself, and
you were asking people if they
wanted to answer five questions.

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Can you tell us what this is
about?

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It was for my podcast.

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A podcast, it's a sound scene
tour.

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A sound scene tour.

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Yeah, it's...

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I have no idea what you're
talking about.

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Okay, right after you mentioned
to the officer some things, I
set all some red flags.

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Basically, who are you sending
up the river?

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No, no, my eye river to create
an MP3 of talking.

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Don't bring the military police
into this.

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No, no, not MPs and MP3.

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Look, we just want to know.

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Who you're working for? Who is
the godfather?

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No, no, not a godfather. It's
the pod father. You know, pod
show, it's Adam.

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Who are you sending up the river
for the godfather?

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No, I'm using my eye river to
record interviews told the
officer that the pod father,
godfather, whatever,

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was going to let you quit your
day job.

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Right, right. If my interview
with the stranger podcast goes
on pod show.

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No, no, no.

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What case? What are you running
drugs for this pod father to?

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No, podcast. Look, we just want
the truth.

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Who are you working for? What
are you doing?

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Is prostitution involved with
his love house thing?

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No, that's love house radio.
That's my other podcast.

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Love house radio interview with
the stranger there.

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Stop talking to the riddles. You
need to come clean or throw in
your mark.

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Like the DSC, Adam Curry?

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LSD.

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No, no, no, no.

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Yeah, Adam Curry.

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Curry from MTV.

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Yes, Adam Curry from MTV.

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Look, missed a lot.

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Just listen, just listen to my
pod.

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Point. I'll listen to it.

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And I'll tell you what I think.

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Okay, here, just stick to your
redden.

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Okay, that's not too bad.

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Yeah, and you can find it. You
can subscribe at
lovehouseradio.com

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or interview with a stranger.com

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And go to podshow because maybe
it'll be on their one day.

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With $60 million worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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Then the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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We don't need no sticky drinks,
baby.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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Oh, fantastic.

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It's Adam Curry.

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It's the longest running reality
show in the business

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Good morning, it's Monday,
coming to you from Curry Condo

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It's been perfectly timed, we
had a beautiful weekend, the sun
was shining both on Saturday

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It doesn't look like it's going
to be really nice today

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Just looking at my 180 degree
view here from the bay over to
the mountains over to the city

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Looks a little bit overcast, no
matter because it's a week full
of all kinds of cool stuff
surprises

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I'll be the things that we don't
know about of course, good
things planned

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This weekend though, I hope you
had a good weekend

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Of course, I was up way too
early on Saturday morning tried
to sleep and didn't work out
entirely

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Made until about 830

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Even though I don't remember
what I did Friday evening, I
think I just went home and
collapsed again probably

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Yeah, just hung out all day and
I'm sorry, I didn't hang out all
day

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What am I talking about?

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Around 2 o'clock, I went down to
the basement here at the condo
all the way down to P4

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And there she was in all her
glory, Trinity hadn't looked at
her since I got here

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Left rear wing, a little bit
soft, so cranked her up, of
course, started no problem

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I love that after not having run
for weeks on end

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Right over to the Sanoko
station, whatever it is here,
paid my 50 cents for the air
hose, jacked her up

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And then went out to the biofuel
oasis in Berkeley, California

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This is the place I've been
talking about that I hadn't been
able to get out to

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And of course, I only had about
a quarter tank left, so it was
either that or pooping in it

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And I don't think the fuel
filters are ready for that yet

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So Trinity, my biofuel oasis
beast, bio diesel beast

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Took her out there, this place
is really cool, this biofuel
oasis

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It's basically a garage,
literally with the garage door
open

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And they have two big vats away
in the back of

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I presume as a biodiesel that
have a nice kit there

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With, I don't know how big
those, those storage tanks are,
but they're big and plastic

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And they two of them fit side by
side in a regular car garage

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And it's just one person there,
now I had my gear with me

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But I didn't just want to jump
out and say, hey, I'm sound
seeing

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I actually want to talk to some
folks over there and learn a
little bit about

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About their operation, so it was
just one person there, she was
brand new

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But she said that she would get
someone to get in touch with me

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So I can go out there and
actually properly interview any
of the owners

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I think it's an owner operated
type deal, it must be six or
seven people

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Who worked there judging from
the pictures on the wall and
stuff

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And so you basically you back
your car in and there's a real
pump there

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In the garage, it's a kind of an
old one

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$3.60 a gallon

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Which is fine, I don't know, I
don't have to go through the
hassle of making it

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And of course, that's not $3.60
which is going to some jackass
oil company

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It's going to some people who
are actually trying to do
something

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And so I'm happy to pay that

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So a couple of observations,
first of all

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Now this is kind of in an almost
like an industrial area of
Berkeley

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On was it fourth street, I think
it is

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And so you know, you kind of
expect to see some trucks around

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Or some beat-up cars

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Particularly the ones that would
be going to get bio diesel

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Well guess what?

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While I was there, I think I saw
at least three high-end
Mercedes-Benz CDIs

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So that's their diesel injection

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Whatever, so I don't know what
the C stands for

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But luxury cars and not old
ones, new cars

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So that was really hard warming
to see that people are actually
going out

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And going out of their way to go
and get bio diesel

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Just whatever their reasons are

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But it's not because you got an
old car and you're experimenting
around

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Like myself, people are really
seriously into this

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So that was, that was just
fantastic

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Cash or check only, no credit
card

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So probably not this day, but
probably next time

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I come into town

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Which will be somewhere in May

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To late April

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That's when we go out there, I'm
going to interview

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Really nice operation though,
biofueloasis

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I think it was a
biofueloasis.com

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I'll make sure I put that into
the show notes

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So then came home

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Ron and Martha called me up and
said let's go to a movie

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I was funny, actually went back
out to workly

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Not Berkeley to

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How it's the one town across the
bridge

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I'm a little fuzzy this morning

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It's not even 645 yet

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The movie of choice was firewall
by Harrison Ford

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Definitely a movie just to go
out and see a movie

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Technically

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Because this is such a typical
Harrison Ford movie

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Where he has some kind of job

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Where he can get stuff done

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Bad guys come in, kidnap his
family

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They force him to do something,
he gets pissed off

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He kicks everyone's ass, they
walk away

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With smoke in the background on
the hill

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And it's all a beautiful thing

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But in this case, it was about

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Breaking into computer systems
and about firewalls

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And I'd have to say in the whole
plot

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There were about

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Probably about five holes I
could have driven

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Trinity through sideways

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From a technical aspect or from
basically

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How the hell could they think
that they would never get caught

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Doing it this way type of aspect

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Because there's just there's no
way that

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That what they were doing was
untraceable

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It doesn't matter

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Basically, fun to go out

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Fun to hang, fun to sit in the
movie theater

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It was a good theater by the way

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One of the AMC with really good
sound

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And the picture was nice and
nice

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I don't think there's a bad seat
in the house

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That was really nice

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That was almost like a shark
jump for me

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When I'm just looking at
Harrison Ford

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Doing that again

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And then I just chilled out

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I went to Ben on time

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Sunday morning got up

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Had a nice long eye chat with
the girls

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Who were back home

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God, I love

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I love eye chat

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When it comes to video
conferencing

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Just for reliability, full
screen, nice audio

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All the little bits and kinks

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Worked out, you know, being able
to use

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Your webcam, not having to use

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External microphones or
headphones

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And just a nice combination

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Macintosh really does it well

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Patricia's got the eye Mac and
home

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I've got, well I have an eye Mac

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He was using the power book

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With the external eyesight

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So I could take it wherever I
was doing stuff

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And continue to talk with it

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It just really works

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Despite the time difference

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Between the two locations of the
condo

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And the cottage

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It really, it almost, you know

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Patricia was making foods

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I just wanted to reach out
through the screen

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And grab it, that's how real it
felt

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And then I had a nice walk

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Walk down to

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First I went to comp USA

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Just to always wanted to go to
comp USA

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And hang out for a little bit
right

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Excuse me

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Nothing there though

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Actually I was looking for a
video camera

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Because I wanted to do another
victim

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Like Charlie, another video
music cast

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Which you probably already saw

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By now if you checked out the
feed this morning

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If you are subscribed or you
looked at curry.com

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And I picked up this

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Let me just grab it here

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So picked up this camera

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Which I've already seen in

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In a different apple store

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It's the Sanio

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Exacty

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As an xxray alpha Charlie Tango
India

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Exacty

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The C5, the exacty

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This thing is small

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It's probably about the same
size

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My blackberry I wouldn't feel
bad slipping this into my pocket

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It's very thin

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And it's a steel camera

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And a video camera in one

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With kind of a pistol grip

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And it reminds me

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It almost reminds me of one of
those

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There's like slow scam black and
white kid

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Video recorders you can get it
toys

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Or us

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If you have your Cnose

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30 bucks or something except
this one actually has some
quality

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The nice thing about it

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The real beauty

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Is that it doesn't have a tape

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It records all everything to an
SD memory card

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You got a two gigabyte card in
there

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Which should be good for about

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Things are good for about an
hour and 15 minutes of
continuous video

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And I really really like this
thing

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I played a lot more than
yesterday

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Of course hence the

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The new video cast that I put up

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But I'm going to be using this

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Throughout throughout the next
couple days or weeks

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And of course I'm vacation

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Let's see if I can

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If let's just see if it works

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I mean that that's always been
the problem with

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With regular video for me is

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Okay, so you got to go hook it
up to the computer

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And then you've got to go find
the spot

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You've got to read in the tape

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It's never really made it easy
for me

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This thing is cool

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If I can do it, let me go

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Why don't I do a little

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Let's see

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Should I do a little a

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A little quick movie here

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There we go

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That's the sink

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We'll do a little movie here of
the setup

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At the condo

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So you can see

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There we go

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Okay, I'll post that along in
the show notes

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Nine seconds of video

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Oh please enjoy

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Let's see

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This week I promised the unleash

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Of the pod show pdn

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Podcast delivery network

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And the pod show plus

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Listener extravaganza

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So on Friday we had a full-blown
meeting

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We all sat down

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Talked about the actual date

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That we're going to unleash all
this stuff

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As you know we've had some
delays

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Based upon the implementation of
strong mail

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So that we can actually send out
emails

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And of course we'll be talking
about that

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Again in this podcast a little
bit later on

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So it looks like it's going to
be delayed

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By the 10 days delay that we had

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Had to put into the schedule

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Before the

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For the email fix

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And of course I'm going on
vacation

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From the first until the 10th of
April

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And I don't I do not want to be
away

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When it unleashes come on

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That would totally suck

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So it'll be right after that

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That's so funny

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But of course

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I'll be jamming with you about
it

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Up until then because we're so
close to

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To getting all this stuff right
or at least

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Write enough to

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To unleash

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Hey what's up? What's up? It's
Markus couch

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From the scene scene and pod
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Music rewind

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And I'm here to talk about
rewind today

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And we've just launched

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Episode number 25

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So you can go to
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And check that out

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We've got the usual suspects on
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From the pod show music gang

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Namely CC Chapman, Michael
Butler

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Myself

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We've also got some guest
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jersey Todd show

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Tokyo Dan from what's happening
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We've got podcast fix hosted by
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Great pod safe band

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From rubber room radio

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And for all you music podcasters
out there

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You guys are invited to join the
party

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Yes even you can get in on the

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Serious satellite window

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If you'd like to find out more

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Just go to rewind.podshow.com

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Click the submission tab

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And you'll be given more info

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On how you can participate

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Now before I go I want to
mention one other thing

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Because of the fact that we've
opened up rewind

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To all these great guest
podcasters

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We've really developed a
community

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A network, a backbone

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A pod safe music artist

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And pod safe music podcast

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So to flourish this new
community

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This new network of pod safe

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I've started pod safe music
forum.com

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It's really a place that we can
all discuss pod safe music

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We can discuss technical issues

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Legal issues anything you want

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So if you want to participate

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Anyone is invited just go to pod
safe music forum.com

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This is Marcus Couch

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Take care

18:24.000 --> 18:25.000
Right on buddy

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Glad you feel better two markets
a little bit under the weather

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He was really he was pretty sick

18:29.000 --> 18:31.000
So he's back and got it was so
nice

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Yesterday just rolling out a
couple of those pod safe music
shows

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What is it?

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I snowed their ultimate mix pod
cast

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Came in I've been listening to
bass 20

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I've been listening to the chill
cast with Angie B

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And of course the pod show music
rewind

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It really works

18:49.000 --> 18:51.000
This stuff works and then just
as a

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Kind of like on a on a lark

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I have my old iPod here with all
my other all my all my license
music

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Which you know, I don't have any
license music

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I don't think anymore on any
computer anywhere

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It's all still on that iPod

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It's like my archive device

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And I ran through a couple of
songs and you know

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It's just like

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First of all most of the songs
that that I have in my iPod

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Or 20 years old by now

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They're from you know mid 80s

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90s yeah like 10 to 20 years old

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It's just you know I couldn't
get that excited anymore

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I just really couldn't

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I'm so I'm really turned on by
all the new stuff

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And that's never happened to me

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It's never happened to me

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Hey, what is today spring?

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Is it the first official day of
spring today?

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I

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What is it today is the 20th?

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No, I can't beat the spring
start March 20th

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Yeah, it's really confusing

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It's not just spring that I'm
sometimes confused about

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But mother's day

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Mother's day

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And father's day as well

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It doesn't seem like we've made
any

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Any progress in some kind of
international standardization of
when mother's day is

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Mother's day in the US

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I don't know when it is but I
know that it's different in the
UK

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And I know it's different in
Belgium

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And I think it's even different
in the Netherlands

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It sounds like every country is
just arbitrarily picked their
own mother's day

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And it seems the same with
father's day

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If anyone couldn't enlighten me
on that

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I'd be much appreciated because

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I've got a lot of different moms
in my life

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They've got to send something to
and I'm confused

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Hey Adam, it's Matt Snodgrass

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Since there's been a flurry of
news on the Chuck lately

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Where they have a lot of
commentary

20:23.000 --> 20:25.000
I'll try to get through these
rapid fire

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First, regarding the proposed
end-to-digital rights management
in France

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Which I wholeheartedly support
in theory

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However, in reality this just
means that iTunes and other
online music stores

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Will simply close down their
French stores

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Yes, they will take the stance

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I'll just take my ball and go
home

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Second, but you're an internet

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I think I've broken this
absurdity down to a simple
formula

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In no other business scenario,
just the supplier of goods

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Charge the producer of goods

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More because the producer is
shipping a lot of goods

20:53.000 --> 20:55.000
In this case, the goods being
data

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And after much thought, I
realized the term for what these
ISPs are proposing

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You know, don't drug dealers do
that

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The words, using force to obtain
money from someone else

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And that term is, you guessed
it, extortion

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All right, third, I can't tell
you how excited I am

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To start buying my pot-safe
music on the PMmen

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With a couple of suggestions

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First, pot show has to take at
least some piece of each
transaction

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To cover operating expenses of
providing such a service

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Well, you know what?

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Let me just see who's about to
say something else at home

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Otherwise, if things just blow
up to millions of downloads a
year

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Then you're paying all that for
all the extra bandwidth

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You know, Matt, Matt's not
dressed Jackson from time to
time

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It's always good to hear from
Matt

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Interesting, you bring that up
because this is something that
we've been talking about

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Quite a bit at Pod Show HQ

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And we feel that there, that may
not be necessary

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You know, we've had a lot of
conversations about what
everyone calls

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The split, what's the split man
who's getting word?

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What's the split?

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And at the end of the day, you
know, when you look at all the
parties that come together

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And selling music, it's

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There isn't that much to divvy
up, you know, if you want to
give the artist a fair shake

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And I think the only other
person we should be helping in
any transaction

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Besides the, you know, the
standard nine cents for just the
processing fee

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Which, you know, I can't do
anything about

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Is the person who helps sell the
song

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So that would be in traditional
internet, internet speak that
would be in affiliate

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It's not about the bandwidth,
you know, we're going to be
giving away the podcast

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It's not about the delivery
network, anyone who wants to use
it

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So, you know, that's going to be
a lot more bandwidth than being
used on, in fact

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It's almost ridiculous how low
the bandwidth usage is on the,
or how

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We've gotten used to such huge
numbers, let me put it that way

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And bandwidth usage that what
PMN uses is almost nothing

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So, you know, I think that we
will benefit as Pod Show in
other ways

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Which may be a little more
indirect

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But I think it's just going to
be worth it

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You know, now that Pod Safe
Music has almost become a, you
know, a word like Kleenex

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Can, yeah, it's actually we've
gotten it to a verb yet, I Pod
Safe

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I don't know, so we're not quite
a zerox territory, but
definitely a Kleenex territory

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So, I don't know, but I do know
that the minute the email
registration works

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We're going live with all of the
music which means any artist who
has the music on the

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Pod Safe Music network can start
selling

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You'd like a victim of your own
success

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Second, please encourage the
artists to include entire albums
when it launches

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A kickass album like Black Lab
see the sun

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Would never see the light of day
if only two tracks are available
on the PMN

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And believe me, it is a kickass
album

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All right

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I'll try to wrap this up now
with just a quick comment on the
trial decision

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What the fuck

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What kind of dick-lic judge
can't clearly see a fucking case
of theft laid out before her

23:56.000 --> 24:02.000
Hey, how about this? I go steal
her car with no repercussions
and just promise not to do it
again

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I bet that'd fly

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Okay, I got that out of my
system

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All right, lastly, I just want
to let you know that you've
inspired me to finally create my
own podcast

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It's called the Daven match show

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So y'all check this out

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It's a comedy podcast available
at DavenMatchow.com

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Ribbit

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I've got a lot of ribbit
feedbacks

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Hey, if you're listening to us
on serious stars channel 102

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This is the pod show Pacific
Coast Hellway is next followed
by

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Yeah, use radio dawn and drew
and lots of great stuff up until
10 o'clock eastern time tonight

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And I guess I'll just have to
figure out themselves

24:34.480 --> 24:37.520
They can download this entire
podcast and listen to it. It's
entirely

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But I couldn't fit the daily
source code dot com into the
satellite window a couple of
promos for you

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They're good ones today too

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Looking for a hookah

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This is the place

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The rock and roll geek is
cruising for love

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Not for himself, but for those
who need it most

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It's Michael Butler's hookah
enough a podcast with one guy
one girl or two of each and the
rock and roll match maker

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Michael Butler trying to make it
all happen

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Would there be a hookah

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For a breakah

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Whatever happens you'll hear it
all

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On Michael Butler's hookah

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Subscribe at podshow.com or
visit the website and hook it up
podgast.com

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Hey Adam this is chef Mark from
the remarkable palette podcast
in NYC

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I told you that I was working on
a big announcement and I got a
couple of my friends together to
join me

25:50.480 --> 25:55.200
Yo, this is Steve Wasser, and
this is chef dance census of the
gastrologic of podcast

25:55.440 --> 25:56.720
This is chef time

25:56.720 --> 26:02.560
Come on to you from the chic
podcast head quarters in
Chicago. This is Jim John Drow
from Jim's kitchen

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This is Jennifer from the guilty
park and even though we all have
our own food podcasts

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There ain't no mother

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Chef you'd go and down there be

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Yes, we can all get along

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That's right guys. So we're here
to announce the launch of the
culinary podcast network

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You know, we all share a love of
gastronomy some of us are
professional chefs and others of
sesco bonds

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You may already listen to some
of our shows so we thought we'd
collect together the finest
quality food podcast available
on the web

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So you can get them all here in
one place hot out of the oven

26:36.000 --> 26:37.600
Along with the folks you've
heard here

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We also have Don Janoba from all
you can eat in Vancouver the
guys from hungry magazine in
Chicago

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And San Francisco's own chef
mark from chef marks culinary
adventures

26:47.680 --> 26:51.440
So you may get to see that chef
mark truffle wrestling match
after all Adam

26:52.320 --> 26:55.280
You can find us at culinary
podcast network.com

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You can even throw in those w's
if you want or subscribe to the
aggregate for all of our shows
in the iTunes

27:01.280 --> 27:06.880
Directory just look for the
culinary podcast network. Thanks
Adam talk to you later

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This is so incredibly cool chefs
with an attitude. I like it

27:11.920 --> 27:16.880
Very cool. I subscribed
immediately. I love the
aggregate feed which kind of
makes it a channel for me

27:17.120 --> 27:22.160
So I always have the latest one
showing up. This is great.
Congratulations great idea

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Sounds like you got a great
group

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A symbol there and anything we
can do at pod show to help you.
I'll just let me know

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Totally totally totally into
that concept and it's so hard,
you know, it's a to organize
people into doing anything
really

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So congratulations guys very
cool

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Whoa

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You found the mark bar show

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Oh yeah, babe. Hey everybody my
pot show is a weird combination

27:47.040 --> 27:52.800
We talk about interesting stuff
space travel time travel gadgets
interesting stuff for network

27:52.800 --> 27:58.400
Happens and life in the
Netherlands and there's just a
couple of things we talked about
in the last few shows

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Plus we do have the best of the
pot safe music network

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And the best of it all it's not
just a fantasy

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It is a reality check it out

28:17.600 --> 28:20.080
www.markboss.com

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Eight out of ten listeners agree
the mark bar show

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Early rocks

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That's for the others

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Well, I'm one of them over

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Yeah, I think that's enough.
Okay.

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www.m-a-r-k-b-a-a-r-s.com

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Right on Mike Alpharomio Kila
Bravo Alpharomio Shara.com,
right?

28:45.520 --> 28:51.360
Yeah, you know, I got a I got to
say that I've been reading a
whole bunch of reports from the
Netherlands

28:51.360 --> 28:55.600
Of course where I grew up and
lived there for a couple of
years before we moved to the UK

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and

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There was a one particular
podcast directory. I think was
it podcast

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I don't even know which one it
was but you know they kind of
shut down and said podcasting is
dead and

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Holland and no one's doing it
and then all of a sudden people
started sending me promos

29:13.840 --> 29:18.880
And I hadn't really received a
lot of Dutch podcast promos in
the past so it was nice to

29:20.240 --> 29:23.840
Nice to see him come in and nice
that they're in English so we
can share them and

29:25.040 --> 29:29.440
It's I think it's I think
podcasting is very much alive.
They just have to kind of find
there

29:30.000 --> 29:35.040
I guess I have to find that
groove, you know because it is
cultural that that's really what
I'm noticing

29:35.920 --> 29:40.800
The Dutch audience who wants a
different type of podcast on the
podcasters were making up until
now

29:43.520 --> 29:47.440
A lot of politicians doing
podcast in the Netherlands. Of
course, you know the politicians
always say

29:47.440 --> 29:52.560
I had just started a podcast and
I do like one episode and then I
just stays there you subscribe
to the feed and nothing else

29:52.560 --> 29:54.160
Come through I think the
minister of

29:54.160 --> 29:59.360
Defense to the podcast the
minister of the interior to the
podcast. They all jumped on some
some form of virtual

29:59.600 --> 30:02.480
Bandwagon that they saw rolling
around a rolling along but

30:03.120 --> 30:07.520
It's all talk no, I'll talkers
no doers. Hey, there's more from
Holland check this out. This is

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Actually, it's really shitty
audio quality which I'm sure was
a mistake, but the bit in the
middle is so worth listening to

30:14.720 --> 30:20.160
From the Nau Weekly.com podcast
which is a brand new podcast
where we talk about

30:21.120 --> 30:26.160
Well stuff that happens in
Holland and I want to mention
that a few Charlie's ago you

30:27.040 --> 30:29.040
Or a few penises ago

30:29.040 --> 30:32.080
You mentioned something about
not using the word Jesus

30:32.960 --> 30:37.360
But using your name. So we we
put this to the test and well

30:38.080 --> 30:41.840
I just wanted to hear you what
happened this week at the at our
place. Hold up hold up

30:49.840 --> 30:51.840
Oh

30:52.400 --> 30:54.400
Gary

30:54.400 --> 30:56.400
Man, oh

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Well as we now know

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Yeah, this sounds good actually.
I'm gonna we're gonna use this

31:07.840 --> 31:13.120
So check out a podcast is on www
dot the Nau Weekly.com and

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Oh, it's there every week for
you to hear buy at him. I don't
know what's what's going on

31:18.880 --> 31:24.320
But it sounds like you got a
grounding issue somewhere in the
in the mixing in the routing
channel or something

31:24.320 --> 31:29.280
But otherwise, very funny. I
believe me. I would love it. I
think it's it's a great
marketing boy

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Please do not take the Lord's
name in vain or or his or his
son Jesus Christ

31:35.440 --> 31:41.840
Please don't just use my name
when you hit your thumb really
it's better for everybody. I'm
I'm sure of it

31:42.240 --> 31:48.320
I was just listening when I was
listening to that. I was
thinking about garage band the
new i-life oh six

31:48.320 --> 31:50.320
I picked up a copy of i-life oh
six

31:50.960 --> 31:52.960
Since I was at the Apple store
anyway and

31:53.760 --> 31:55.760
It was pretty interesting

31:56.400 --> 31:59.760
The interface is a little bit
little bit cleaner a little bit
different

32:00.080 --> 32:04.480
But but really the garage band
seems to be much more stable. I
had an editing project

32:05.120 --> 32:09.040
Something I've been working on
called the green tech podcast.
That's the working title

32:09.120 --> 32:11.120
That's going to be the final
title and

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And I just decided I'd start
editing that in garage band to
see how I did and

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It you know once you kind of get
the hang of it because it is a
little different than

32:20.960 --> 32:24.880
You know using pro tools or
audacity or deck or anything
like that

32:24.880 --> 32:28.640
But when you kind of get the
hang of it it does start to flow
a little bit. I'm about

32:29.760 --> 32:32.880
30% through the project so I'm
gonna do the whole project on
garage band

32:33.200 --> 32:38.320
Hopefully it won't let me down
and then I'll give you my full
assessment, but so far I have to
say

32:39.040 --> 32:44.800
And I would I've never edited
anything on a windows machine. I
really only use the windows
machine because cast plaster
runs on it

32:45.200 --> 32:47.200
And lots of talk this weekend

32:47.200 --> 32:48.400
on the

32:48.400 --> 32:54.640
Particularly on a curry dot com
in the comments going back and
forth with comic strip blogger

32:55.920 --> 32:57.280
um

32:57.280 --> 33:03.280
I really you know I have a whole
bunch of mixed feelings about
comic strip blogger. You know
we're kind of getting into it

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He was sending in comments
regularly which I was happy to
play and

33:08.560 --> 33:11.360
And if you were listening last
Friday

33:11.360 --> 33:14.400
He kind of went off on a tangent
that I took

33:15.200 --> 33:17.200
I took issue with

33:17.200 --> 33:22.080
And you know that he's he really
tried to defend himself on the
boards. I don't think he got
away with it

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And I don't know if this is just
a language issue, but it really
doesn't matter what the issue is

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It's the way that comics
re-blogger do it's the way you
respond

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And if I swear to me because you
know he'll send me emails

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Which just anyone who has ever
had an altercation with daywiner
will recognize this type of
email

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It's really amazing

33:43.520 --> 33:47.200
Where an email shows up that
says do not for do not post do
not blog

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This is for you and you only
privately you may not do
anything with this atom curry

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And I've received those emails
from Dave winers and sure many
people have and

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And

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And it's just like it's actually
it's the same type of thing if
you have an ongoing relationship

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If you've ever had one with
whiner

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You know you wake up one morning
all sudden. He's like totally
off as rocker and you have to
apologize to me

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You ridiculed me and yeah, it's
like oh my god, and so I
received a couple of these

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A comic should blogger emails
and he is saying that I have to
apologize to him

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For calling him out on his uh
what I felt was an anti-symmetic
comment

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And I didn't do anything more
than to call him out on it
whether it was intentional
unintentional

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It didn't sound right man. It
really didn't

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But you shouldn't get all been
out of shape and end to then go
threatening this stuff like you
know I'll go back. What is it?

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You have to apologize to me

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uh

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Wow god, I'm gonna read this
whole thing Adam. See I repeat.
I expect your apology on next
podcast

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I mentioned Ron's ethnicity
without any evil intentions just
an adjective as many people do
no

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Dude you listen to the Howard
Stern show too much. Okay.
That's the problem

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You trying to do like Howard
Stern type humor and I can hear
it. I really can't and I know
you listen to it

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Whether it's legally illegally
streaming or not however you get
a hold of it. I can tell you
even use that as part of your
defense

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But it's everything's within
context man and it was not
within context and and I feel
that we should be able to call
you out

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And you shouldn't be so

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Dicky about it, you know, just
uh move on next window please.
Now I think you did kind of
apologize

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But I'm I'm definitely not going
to and you know there's there's
no reason to get all

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Huffy about it. Just go back to
stuff that you care about man.
Don't get just

35:43.680 --> 35:48.640
Anyway, so we send you a whole
bunch of audio quotes, which I'm
not gonna play because they're
just not relevant not funny and

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And not the CSB. I want to have
on my show

35:52.320 --> 35:55.200
Hey, I'm Mike Sulee from Ottawa,
Canada here love the show

35:55.920 --> 36:00.000
I work in the voiceover IP space
and I've been listening intently
lately to this bullshit about

36:00.400 --> 36:03.200
Telco's wanted to charge both
end points for bandwidth use

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And bitching because power users
is actually dared to make the
most of their internet
connections

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All I want is a pipe and I know
this pisses off a lot of ISPs
because you don't fit the
profile for the quote average
user

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That some marketing droid you
can barely figure out how to
open his email came up with

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I must say that I'm really tired
of this shit

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I tried to make your eyes piece
in Canada and if I don't use the
operating system that they want
me to use

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At the times of day that they
want using only the programs
that they want me to use

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They want nothing to do with me

36:32.880 --> 36:36.640
Right now my eyes p rocks
because it's smaller and it
isn't too full of itself yet

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They're customer service
actually has a clue it's amazing

36:42.080 --> 36:46.720
Now the telco's want to treat me
as a second class citizen and
charge both end points for
traffic

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The each end point is already
paying for from their ISP

36:50.720 --> 36:52.720
That's the last straw man. Fuck
them

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We need a serious push to turn
these assholes into the utility
that they're supposed to be

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They need to provide an unbiased
pipe and then shut the fuck up
and collect the revenue

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If the pipe goes down or
performs poorly, they need to be
penalized

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I mean it's the way of the
future if I get my way

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I think that everyone needs to
start lobbying with their
governments to make it happen

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It should be like the damn
telephone

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The internet is an essential
service now and we need a
reliable unbiased playing field
to keep it that way

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Anyway, that's my rent for the
day man

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All right, dude. Yeah, I feel
the same way and this is this is
you know really the email
conversation is now coming to
the main stream

37:30.480 --> 37:35.760
Remember we were talking about
this probably before you ever
read about it in the New York
Times as an example

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But this whole idea of good mail
which is this

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You know this service that a
well and apparently now everyone
has signed up for it a well

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MSN hotmail Yahoo and there's
even a Gmail person on the board
of on the advisory board

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So I understand you know, so
they're all in on this and and
all the conversation revolves
around what I think is exactly
the intent of the ISPs

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It all revolves around

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Spam so we're stopping spam and
the way we're gonna do that is
we're gonna charge people to
send certified mail

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And all of that's fine, but the
thing that no one seems to be
talking about is that

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It's almost like getting like
all of a sudden having getting
really bad credit

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You know, which can happen for a
number of reasons it can happen
all by itself without you having
anything to do with it

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It usually these mistakes happen
or there's some kind of fraud

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Which by the way is how you
often wind up on spam blacklist
is through fraud or someone use
your mail server

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Of course, I know there's all
kinds of things that should be
done, you know, there's mistakes
everywhere

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But that's usually how you wind
up on a blacklist and before you
know it you can't send out your
own personal email

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This is an issue the
corporations have all over the
world right now as we speak

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Just sending a small small
companies, you know, mom and pop
shops are running into this
problem

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So now they're all going to have
to pay these huge fees which you
know, maybe 300 bucks doesn't
seem like a large fee

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But it is you know and and who
died and made you more the
fuckers God excuse me excuse me

39:14.800 --> 39:21.600
You know, you're just weaseling
it's it really is weaseling in
onto something that is supposed
to be open and free and yet it
sucks

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Yeah email is absolutely broken,
but this is not the way to fix
it. I'm sorry

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This is completely wrong and you
know what there's not a day goes
by that I'm not rocking my brain
for some other type of solution

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But this is

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About the free flow of
information without gatekeepers
without having to to pay for

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Your email to get through that
was not the way the system was
designed it was not the way it
was intended

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And I'm really I feel bad that
this is just moving ahead, you
know, because

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Look there's no time the same
thing with us. We're paying
these you know it's like

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$80,000

39:58.080 --> 40:00.080
$80,000

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I'll rage this amount just so
that we can send send off emails
and how the you know actually
arrive. It's

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I don't think legislation is the
way to go by the way. I think
the whole problem here

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What we're seeing down at the
bottom and this goes you know
goes right into the same

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The same issue of ISPs wanting
the charge on both sides of the
equation

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You know, so they want to charge
Google for sending net, you
know, for the traffic that they
send onto their network and now

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They're saying yeah, it's people
kind of backpedaling into it by
saying oh, this will be for a
guaranteed delivery or some
horse crap like that

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The problem is it's jealousy

40:37.600 --> 40:45.040
It's jealousy at the top, you
know, it guys and I think it all
it really has to do with Google
people are looking at Google and
saying hey wait a minute

40:45.360 --> 40:50.960
There's a business model where
guys are taking all this stuff
that other people create running
it over our pipes

40:51.920 --> 40:56.560
And they're and they're you
know, there's there's big is GM
in market cap and then in value

40:56.640 --> 41:02.400
It's jealousy. They want a piece
of that they see that their
models will never grow that
quickly and that they are
becoming commoditized

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So the only thing I can say is
if you guys are really this big
and this powerful you network
guys

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Then you should go buy the
content companies go buy a piece
of Google, you know what I'm
saying?

41:14.880 --> 41:22.560
Okay, aggravated excuse me, you
know, pull your fucking wallet
out and do that, you know, if
you look it's like it's like

41:24.080 --> 41:30.240
People who invest in airlines,
you know, not a good time to be
invested in an airline with with
fuel prices, you know

41:30.240 --> 41:37.760
You're gonna lose your shirt.
I'm sorry. Just get over it
already, but don't try and
hijack into streams of other
companies

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You know, it's a piracy it's
absolutely piracy

41:40.640 --> 41:49.680
I know I have faith in the in
it's certainly in the United
States and it's people and it's
consumers people who are
consumers

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And even legislation if it has
to get to it, but I don't think
that will ever surface that
would just kill so much

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I think we would have to take to
the streets and riot if they if
they really want to go through
with that

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I think I'm not the piece about
that here. Hold on a second.
Let's see. Hey Adam this is Eric
Bergen from green room radio

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And I just listened to the
Charlie 355 and

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Listening to that final song
Kevin Reeves wasted just
incredible. What a great song.
Oh, this is really

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Just what a great song

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Yeah, but it it reminded me to
send in some audio feedback

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Regarding an issue that I've
been thinking about for some
time and it's regarding the pod
safe music network now

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I love the PMN I use it all the
time and I totally get your idea
of the unlabel and how it works
and that

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You and the other other people
that facilitate the PMN are not
in control of its content and
then should not be in control of
its content

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And I get that and I love that
the idea that it's not a store,
but it is a resource and a

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A hub of all those great music
for podcasters and and anyone
else who discovers the music
through podcasts

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However, here is my question

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For so long now musicians and
artists have been trying to get
their music heard in the the
best way possible since the
beginning of the recorded sound

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Artists have been always you
know always working towards a
better quality sound

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In recorded music all the way
from vinyl now to not just CD
anymore, but super audio CD

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And now we have the dual disc
which you can you know flip over
and play the album in on the DVD
side in 5.1 stereo surround
sound and

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All these other inventions to
make the sound more better

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Wow, that was bad. But anyway,
you know getting the sound the
way the musician would want it
to sound the way it sounds in
the studio when you're creating
the music

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Oh wow, I don't know where
you're going with this, but

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You know

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Back in the day when there was
really like in the in the UK or
in Europe when the real top 40
stations with the pirate radio
ships broadcasting on AM only

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Medium wave man people mix their
shit down the studio on the
crappy as speakers to make sure
it sounded good not

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You know, it's so the it sounded
good on the device they expected
their consumers to be listening
to

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So, you know, there's no way
you're going to replicate well
if you have enough money in the
right room and and enough drive

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Yeah, you can get pretty close,
but you'll probably never
replicate

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What people are hearing in the
studio. I think it's very
different. You know hip hop is
it's very tuned towards the
clubs and and car stereo

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So I'm not too sure about that,
but let's see where you're going
with with the whole story and I
know that when I buy music from
the

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iTunes music store sometimes
although I know I'm getting a
compressed sound and not so
perfect

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I know that the quality for the
most part is going to be really
really good

44:47.520 --> 44:56.800
I really enjoy the AAC files
that they sent out. I don't know
how you feel about that in in
relation to the standard MP3
file, but I well first of all
are

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Our pod show plus player which
would be able to use from any
web browser will of course
recognize them and play them
also the enhanced version which
is is really sweet

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So I don't care, you know, it's

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It's kind of an open format

45:12.080 --> 45:15.920
You know, and now of course I
get a ton of emails people
saying it's open. It's closed.
It's open. It's closed

45:15.920 --> 45:21.920
I don't know where I will deploy
it so it works for me, but I
definitely support MP3 above all
else do enjoy it

45:23.280 --> 45:27.120
Some of the files that I've
downloaded from the PMN are
occasionally

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Not up to quality and I don't
even say a little bit more than
occasionally. I would say 50% of
the time the quality of the
track

45:36.720 --> 45:40.320
Isn't up to par now. It's it's
fine for playing on a podcast
because

45:41.600 --> 45:43.600
When you know when you're doing
a podcast you're

45:44.880 --> 45:47.680
compressing it to sometimes even
mono sound

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But for those people who who
want a high quality sound
especially the people who are
buying the tracks

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Is there any way that we can
have a restriction as far as the
quality of the file that artists
are uploading or

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What do we do about that just
because I feel that sometimes
the the sound isn't up to where

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Other people like listening to
and and the musicians would want
it. I think higher themselves

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So that's just a bit of feedback
for you

46:15.040 --> 46:21.840
I would love to hear what you
have to say about that this is
Eric Bergen from green room
radio the arts and entertainment
podcast had green room radio dot
com

46:21.920 --> 46:28.800
All right, Eric, thank you.
Yeah, let me let me give you
that my thoughts about that so
going back to the unlabel
concept where every

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person who is a member of the
label which includes listeners

46:32.320 --> 46:36.560
podcasters artists other people
who want to promote music fans
for instance

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Just you know if you take all of
that all those pieces
transactional piece all of that

46:42.560 --> 46:44.560
We're all together you get the
unlabel and

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The minute you start making a
whole bunch of restrictions I
think it'll become very
difficult the way I see this
playing

46:52.000 --> 46:58.320
Is that we're going to we're
going to really mel the pod safe
music network into

46:58.640 --> 47:01.840
Well, it already is kind of a
mini social network. We're going
to we're really going to

47:02.240 --> 47:08.480
Mel that into a social media
network. So right now you have
song pages you can see who
played a song

47:08.480 --> 47:10.480
You can get information about
the artist

47:11.440 --> 47:16.960
But I think what what we're
really missing there is some
user interaction or listener or
podcaster

47:17.040 --> 47:20.240
Who can basically say you know,
it's so you'll be able to place
comments or or

47:21.120 --> 47:27.040
The call them recommendations if
you will but you'll be able to
respond to each individual song
into the artist and

47:27.680 --> 47:32.800
And I guess what you might do
just as if you were going to
download a piece of software and
by the way

47:32.800 --> 47:39.120
Is there any difference between
a dot ex e file and a dot mp3
file? I mean, yeah, what happens
with it once you get it

47:39.120 --> 47:42.160
Maybe different but it's still
just data you're downloading
you've got

47:42.640 --> 47:49.040
Programs that that crash and
break and spy have spyware and
are you know, crap and you have
ones that are really good and
how do you know about it?

47:49.040 --> 47:54.320
Well when you're downloading I
at least I always look at
quickly at the reviews, you
know, and not the star rating by
the way

47:54.320 --> 48:01.440
I actually read what people say
if I go to version tracker for
instance or window tracker dot
com if I really need something
for the windows machine

48:02.800 --> 48:04.800
You know, so it's

48:05.280 --> 48:10.320
I think that that's the best way
to handle that and if artists
are really serious and

48:10.880 --> 48:15.040
You know if they think that they
can go without a record company.
This is the stuff that record
companies do

48:15.040 --> 48:20.160
You know, they make sure the
quality's out there and it's the
and the notes the right bit rate
and it's uploaded properly and

48:20.400 --> 48:27.040
You know if you're going to do
that yourself then as an artist
you need to take the time. You
know, it's it's 99 cents
someone's paying

48:28.240 --> 48:33.200
Which may not seem like a lot
but look at the competition the
competition is what you hear on
iTunes

48:33.200 --> 48:38.400
So I'm pretty sure that the
artists will catch on quick
enough if they're really
serious. Remember this is all
about

48:39.360 --> 48:45.200
A concept of they're no they're
not really being a need for
labels and by the way, there's
plenty of

48:46.000 --> 48:49.280
Independent record labels who
are uploading their stuff and
that's fine, too

48:49.280 --> 48:52.000
We're actually going to make
that a little more apparent so
you can

48:53.040 --> 48:56.720
Go in by artists as well as by
by record company

48:57.680 --> 49:03.040
If you want to search around so
we're really doing our our best
to make that as as broad as
possible

49:03.040 --> 49:06.000
But again, I think that you know
if we want to be a store

49:06.640 --> 49:10.880
Then we'd have you know if you
do one thing you've got to do
everything the what we have
discussed

49:10.880 --> 49:15.040
And I'll just mention it again
is we will be working on the ID
three tags when you submit your
song

49:15.360 --> 49:17.360
You'll actually have to post X

49:17.680 --> 49:21.600
Number you know pieces of
information you can of course
fill out everything you want but

49:22.240 --> 49:23.760
The ID three tags will be

49:24.080 --> 49:27.520
We'll be written in properly. I
guess some kind of rule if the
ID three tags are already there

49:27.520 --> 49:32.080
Then we won't write them in or
something like that but we're
moving along and I appreciate
the feedback because

49:32.640 --> 49:36.880
The only way we're going to get
this unlabeled really roll and
is is by working together on it

49:37.280 --> 49:39.920
So from the pod safe music
network as the last song of the
day

49:40.560 --> 49:44.720
About five people sent me this
link. I don't know why maybe
it's some kind of

49:45.600 --> 49:46.640
marketing

49:46.640 --> 49:48.640
initiative that is

49:49.440 --> 49:53.600
That has been undertaken. Let me
just see if I can find some
information about this
particular

49:54.480 --> 49:56.480
I'm going to my

49:56.480 --> 50:01.520
My playlist here on the pod safe
music network David it polito
who was from

50:01.680 --> 50:02.640
New York

50:02.640 --> 50:08.480
Also known as that guitar man
from Central Park since 1992 has
played to hundreds of thousands
around the world

50:09.120 --> 50:16.400
But as most at home on sunny
weekends in a little patch of
grass in New York City Central
Park with a guitar on his
shoulder

50:16.960 --> 50:20.000
But boy he gets around and he
certainly takes the train

50:20.160 --> 50:29.040
We call you Mr. Cell phone guy
because we don't know your name

50:30.640 --> 50:34.640
The only thing we share is that
we all got on this train

50:34.640 --> 53:34.320
[ Music ]

53:34.320 --> 53:36.320
Because you

53:43.200 --> 53:49.920
It's got a whole bunch of songs
on the podcast and music network
check them out David Epoito and
I'll make sure to put a link in
the show notes

53:49.920 --> 53:55.920
You can be whisked off to it
automatically. Hey, good news
today is a reasonable hair day

53:56.000 --> 53:59.200
And I'm really happy so I won't
have to spend hours coffee

54:00.080 --> 54:07.600
coffee because today Cali Lewis
our fearless leader from the
geek intelligence agency agency
is in town

54:08.240 --> 54:12.960
She'll be at the pod show HQ and
we're doing something together
on taking my camera with me

54:14.240 --> 54:19.600
So I don't know if I'll be
putting that up as a as a Victor
Mike Charlie or just as
something separate

54:19.600 --> 54:25.440
But I'll definitely be shooting
some footage and I'm looking
forward to a to meeting our
fearless leader

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So you all have a great day

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We back tomorrow as I said. I'm
here all week. I'm here. I'll be
here all week folks. It's a
condo

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Flying back Saturday for a rival
Sunday morning and

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Missing the girls, but glad to
be out here and kicking some ass
getting some shit done a lot of
fun

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