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Hello, I'm Adam Curry.

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right now, then come on over.

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Cause I am the master.

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Pod Caster.

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That same sturdy.

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Is that dirty, Peed Up?

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That same too, dirty.

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With $16 million worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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Transmidders?

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In the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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We don't need nuss.

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I like to think I'm flying.

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If you want to...

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Pod Castan, it's Adam Curry.

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The places you never ever been
before.

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It's another one of those songs,
man.

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Just can't get it out of my
head.

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It has a combination of so many
different things.

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I really like it.

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Pretty, pretty song.

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It's from New Leaf.

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Song is titled Magic Carpet.

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Now, guess where they come from.

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Nope.

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Nope.

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Nope.

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They come from Sweden.

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That's right.

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And I didn't actually realize
that until I just pulled up the
page on the podcast of music.

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Now, where I tagged it a long
time ago, my playlist to play.

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There you go.

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Loving it from
music.podshow.com.

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Well, good afternoon or good
morning, everybody.

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Probably good afternoon where
you're listening to this show
right now because it's a little
bit later than normal.

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This morning after dropping
Christina off at school, I
jetted back to the cottage.

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Immediately begged Patricia to
do my hair because I had a
meeting in London.

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Which is actually quite
convenient.

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I was so surprised.

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I was able, you know, I was
back.

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To see, I left the house at, was
at 930 and I was on the east
side of London and 11 o'clock
from my meeting with British
telecom.

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And the reason for that, of
course, is that, you know,
there's not, not often that you
get an opportunity to sit with
the top brass twice in quick
succession.

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So I felt it was more than
warranted to despite all the
packing and the last minute
stuff we're doing.

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And of course, I do have double
days here.

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So this all fits into the pre
San Francisco awakening hours.

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And I was back.

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I was back sitting in the big
green ugly chair, which, for
those of you who have been
listening to the show since the
curry castle days,

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the big old green ugly thing
just went right along with me.

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I still, you can sit still my
recliner.

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And I was sitting here about
like 230.

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It was fantastic.

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Actually, I was back at the
station at 130.

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The car was waiting for me 145.

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I was home.

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Fantastic.

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It did not a nice day.

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So I'm looking forward to
leaving.

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As you know, we're going to
Portugal to the Algarve.

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And we leave tomorrow.

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I will put up a thank God.

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It's Friday show just to get us
a whole new mood, of course.

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And after that, we're at a here.

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So I can't say too much about
the B.T. meeting, but you pay
podcasters.

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Doing stuff for you guys here.

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Thanks for all getting touched
with me.

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I was at the Guardian Media
Conference, the Changing Media
Summit.

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There's like, you know, one
podcaster.

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Okay.

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It's okay.

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That's fine.

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Just don't complain that we're
not doing anything when we get
it all rolling.

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Lots of stuff going on.

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Plenty of stuff in the form of
feedback.

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It sounds like this.

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Hey Adam.

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It's listener Jeff.

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And looking on dig today.

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And there's this huge set of
comments about this.

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A ledge, podshow contract on the
Keith and the girl podcast.

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And I think we need to hear a
podshow side of the story, also.

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I really don't believe the
things that people are saying.

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And since there's nothing that I
can actually read.

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I don't know who's blown smoke
out of who's asked or what.

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So what's the deal?

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Is this legit?

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Is it complete total BS made for
fun?

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And you're just having, they're
just pulling shots at you.

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Or what's going on?

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Let us know.

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Okay.

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Well, obviously our response was
all taking everything kind of
ingest.

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But it's interesting when I look
at dig and all that.

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It's amazing how creative people
can be when insulting me.

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It never ceases.

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It never ceases to amaze me.

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Let me set a couple things very
straight.

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First of all, podshow is not an
ad network.

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Okay.

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That's the big disconnect here.

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We are not an ad insertion
company where we do a revenue
split and publish everything up
front

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with the contracts and the
agreements.

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Now, that's stuff that podtrack
and keep trying.

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And man, I'm trying to think of
a couple more.

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Podtrack, keep trying.

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There's more.

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Okay.

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Send me which actually have a
list of which ones there are.

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These guys, they state their
information publicly because
they're like ad cents.

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This is very typical of where I
think the podcast and community
is turning left

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and we should be turning right.

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You know, the Google Adsense
model, go look at your check.

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Tell me how big it is.

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Okay.

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Because that's probably going to
be about the size of your check
if you use these types

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of ad insertion networks.

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And the whole point there is
that advertisers show up
themselves.

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And oh, not a lot of all of them
I have to say.

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But it's, you know, they publish
a rate card.

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So, you know, if you look at the
rate card for Keith and the
girl,

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and it says they have
approximately 257,000 downloads
in a month, which is good.

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I have to say, but hey, no,
don't and Drew.

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And they charge $67 per 1000.

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So, you can almost do the math
if they were completely sold
out.

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They would actually be doing
pretty good.

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But the question is, how do you
get completely sold out?

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And how do you, how do you
justify a cost per 1000?

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The so-called CPM?

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I think that's the wrong way to
go.

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What Pod show does is we market
the relationship

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between the podcast or the pod,
the proofs of the podcast and
their audience,

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which we find far more valuable
than $67 per 1000 downloads.

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So, we don't have any contracts
like that.

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So, we're not going to publish
anything.

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We don't discuss our private
contracts with the podcasters
that have joined the network.

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And quite honestly, when a
podcaster joins the network,

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it's not just signing of a
contract.

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There's a whole discussion.

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There's a contacts.

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There's an often trips to the
office, so we can discuss
things.

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How do we build the future for a
podcaster?

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What can the network provide for
you?

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What type of advertisers are we
looking at?

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What kind of promotions?

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How do we drive listeners?

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And that's really the key point
that I want to make.

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The insults that are flying
around is that...

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And it's not even Pod show.

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It's me personally.

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That's the funniest thing that I
love reading it.

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That I'm raping podcasters for
my own benefit.

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Yeah, you clearly misunderstand.

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Pod show, as we've said from day
one, is about listeners.

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We're about getting the audience
in, okay?

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And audience comes for several
different reasons.

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But that connection is what
we're making.

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We're not going out there trying
to snap up as many podcasters.

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We can't even... it's not
scalable the way we're doing it.

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We're creating a network of
shows that we feel will draw an
audience

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and the audience will not be
disappointed when they come to
podshow.com

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and try out that podcasting
thing.

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So now, of course, I'm not going
to discuss any contracts.

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And if you do receive a contract
from Pod show,

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then I suggest you talk to a
lawyer

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and don't take your advice from
Keith and the girl.

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That being said, with the, you
know, standing on one leg

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and praising Murphy and all that
stuff,

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we're hoping to go public beta
with podshow plus and the pdn,

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the podshow delivery network
around...

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Well, it's supposed to be... the
schedule says April 13th,

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but I'll just say, let's take
the worst day in our lives,

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which would be April 15th, tax
day.

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And let's make that a little bit
brighter.

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By then, we should have it up
and rolling,

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and there will be multiple
levels.

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And for people who just want to
come in and use the network

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and don't want to join the
podshow family,

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that we plenty of opportunity
for you.

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All kinds of you can even pay
for it

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and just take the services with
no advertising whatsoever.

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Those, of course, will be
published.

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But the level that we're talking
at here is something completely
different.

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So that's about all I really
have to say about it.

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And it's just, again, amazing.

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Amazing how creative the insults
have gotten.

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Hey Adam, this is Chris from the
Financial Aid podcast

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with some audio feedback about
taking people's names into vain.

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From the Buddhist perspective,
which is the perspective I
associate

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with the most, there are three
general reasons why you
shouldn't do this.

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None of which actually have to
do with respect.

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The first is taking people, the
names that people are taking
into vain

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are names that are connected
with the, I guess we'll call it
the sacred.

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You know what, let me just set
this up.

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If you haven't heard the
previous episodes,

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this started with Steve Web of
the Life Spring podcast

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who respectfully asked me to not
use Jesus Christ in a derogatory
way.

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Which I totally understand, I'm
trying to respect.

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Not just for Steve Web, but for
other listeners of my show.

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I don't care about anyone else.

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My listeners, you know, within
my own community.

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And that has sparked a pretty
interesting conversation about
what does it mean to take

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the Lord's name in vain or
anyone's name in vain for that
matter.

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And I've gotten lots of
feedback, but this one from the
Financial Aid podcast

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is pretty good.

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Listen to some more.

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The ability to switch between
your ordinary everyday mind and
the mind

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that is focused on spiritual
practice is very, very difficult
to combine.

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One of the ways that you get
there is the use of sacred
names, words, and rituals.

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It's kind of like warm-ups
before concert.

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You make the transition from
everyday mind to empowered mind.

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By using the words and sounds
connected with the sacred in the
context of the

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profane, you dilute the power.

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You make it that much harder to
get the groove when it comes to
spiritual practice.

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In Buddhism, we reserve power
words and names for times when
they'll do us the most good.

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Using the amount of context,
it's like a police officer
firing warning shots.

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They're loud and all, but if he
needs those both to save his
life, he should

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out of luck.

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Second, you actually have proven
this more than anything with
this and say

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or burping.

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In addition to power dilution,
if you consistently use any
deities name and

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link it to negative experiences,
the guess what?

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Yep, you will naturally be by
force of repetition.

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The same as burping and say or
begin attaching negative
associations to it.

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Until you're.

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That is so incredibly true.

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So now we're getting down to
something.

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Some socios, psychological
aspects of this that I hadn't
really thought about before,

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but believe me, I know where all
this came from.

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I know where that negative
association came from.

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It is from my parents.

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Practice is not a labor
powerless from pointless
repetition.

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But I just want to blame all the
nasty shit people say about me.

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All my parents don't mind.

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Actually disempowering as using
the name of your spiritual
practice,

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starts to conjure up all the bad
stuff in your work day or
whatever with your

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stubborn toe.

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Everything that hurts everything
that's gone wrong with your life
is associated to this

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name.

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It's so disempowering.

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Finally, words and names have
power in and of themselves.

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Above and beyond any context
associated with them.

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In Buddhism, in the Sanskrit
language, there's a concept of a
seed syllable,

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a sound that is so powerful that
it has meaning, whether or not
you understand it,

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whether or not you believe in
it.

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Invoking these sounds with
intention, focus and power can
have awesome effects.

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Invoking them have hazardly, but
with lots of intention, like
swearing, can also have

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awesome effects, but they
usually negative ones.

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Consider the sound, ah, it's the
first son you make as a baby.

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It's the sound you make as you
fight for your life.

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It's the sound you make at the
peak of orgasm.

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Hold on.

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Is that the sound you make at
peak of orgasm?

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Uh, dude.

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Not rolling out the snake for
you.

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The last sound that passes your
lips is the force of life fades
from your body.

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It's universal to all of us, and
it's a noomestake that in
alphabet.

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A or A, if you French, is the
first letter.

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It's also no coincidence that
most of our deities and powers
use that sound in them.

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God, Allah, Yahweh, Brahma,
Kanon, Avalo, Katasura, Shiva.

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In Arimek, Jesus Christ is
Yeshua, which stems from the
biblical Hebrew, Yahosua.

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Christ, of course, comes from
Greek.

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In his time, the role of the
Messiah, the name of the
Messiah, would have been
pronounced to

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Mosjak.

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Taking power words and names and
veins, again, sticking your
finger in a wall socket.

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You're tapping into tremendous
power that you have no idea how
to channel properly.

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And as a result, you'll probably
fry yourself.

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Not to mention caught off any
chances you have for
enlightenment or salvation.

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Whatever it is that is important
to you.

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Respect is important, but at
least from my point of view.

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A prohibition against taking
power words and flinging them
around,

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mostly has far more drastic
consequences for you and for the
people around you.

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So, some audio feedback from the
financial aid podcast has
nothing to do with financial
aid.

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Check us out at
financialadpodcast.com and
thanks a lot Adam.

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No man, thank you, I appreciate
it.

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That's interesting.

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All those A words.

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Very cool.

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And something to think about.

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And there's some lessons in what
you just said that I want to
process,

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but perhaps we can start making
some other associations or using
that power for good.

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A names like Aerowana.

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The god I pray to you.

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Adam, I just was listening.

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DSC number 362.

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And her manges answer to your
golden ticket.

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I don't know if you noticed or
if you did it on purpose,

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but immediately after she makes
the comment about what she's
going to do for you,

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then you have the earthling
fairies come on and ask,

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do you believe in anything's
possible?

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That's it.

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Can I clear up?

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Wanted to drop you a quick
comment.

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Yeah, you don't think that was
intentional to you.

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Man, that stuff gets lined up in
Cas Blaster and it's green to
go.

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So yesterday we launched the
first golden ticket.

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I'm going to tell you just
briefly again what that is.

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We have this technology we've
built called D-Gap.

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The dynamic generated asset
placement,

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which means we can put stuff
into our podcast on the network,

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which of course could be tags at
the front of a podcast,

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which is most of the ones that
the network now have,

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talking about GoDaddy.

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Or we can randomly insert them
based upon odds,

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where I think at a one to 25,000
ratio now on the golden ticket
test.

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So that somewhere in the
podcast,

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in fact, I'm going to note the
time down right now,

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because if you're listening and
the next words are
congratulations,

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then you won.

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Okay, I just want to write down
that time code.

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There we go.

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So if you didn't, if you just
heard me writing something down,

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then you lost, because we're
going to do it again today.

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So here's how it works.

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I am taking that exact moment in
the podcast.

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I'm going to add that into our
D-Gap system.

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And one listener will receive a
different daily source code,

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which will have those actual
words,

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which will have a separate set
of words inserted,

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which I pre-recorded and is on
the D-Gap server as well.

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Now, we've set the odds to
125,000.

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So that's your actual chance of
pulling out the golden ticket.

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Yesterday, we served the golden
ticket.

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We know kind of where the person
was who received the ticket,

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and we know that they were using
a juice receiver to receive the
ticket,

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but they haven't checked in yet.

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So the thought mistake I made
here is,

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well, sometimes people are a day
behind,

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or maybe three days behind, or
maybe they didn't listen at all.

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So obviously, when we roll out
golden ticket promotions on a
full scale,

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we'll have to lower the odds a
little bit,

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or we'll have to figure
something out.

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But it is kind of cool.

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It forces you to listen if you
want to win.

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And boy, where there are lots of
people trying to hack in

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and scam the system.

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That was pretty amazing.

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I mean, feel free to do whatever
you want to.

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It doesn't really matter.

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This is just a test.

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It's not an official contest,

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but I want to do it again today.

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I have two people who have a
golden ticket.

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Remember, it's for that AV.

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Was it the Keystone?

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I hope it's the Keystone.

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Thing is the Keystone AV.

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iPod.

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Doc and remote.

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Our F remote is what it is.

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It's a nice little Chatsky.

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That's not the point.

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So there will be another one
going out today.

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And so hopefully we'll hear from
the new winner,

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or from the previous winner, or
perhaps from both.

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Of course, we'll be happy to
shell out both prizes.

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But in the future.

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And by the way, it's very
possible that it didn't work.

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That's another thing that Andrew
and I, Andrew Grumman,

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and I are taking into account
that maybe it didn't get
inserted

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properly, although from
everything we can see it did.

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In the future, I think the way
it will work is we'll have
golden ticket

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promotional weeks or weekends or
whatever.

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And then any podcast you listen
to on the pod show podcast.

21:50.000 --> 21:53.000
Now, we're could have the golden
ticket inserted.

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And it could be multiple.

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So we're really working on this.

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And this again, this is why I
like the daily source code.

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We can mess around and test
stuff and try and break it.

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And so if you want to try and
hack it again, that's okay.

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It doesn't matter.

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If you hack it and you win, you
win, right?

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But obviously we have a lot of
strategies and ideas to make
that

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much more difficult.

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The whole concept of registered
listeners will make that much
easier,

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obviously.

22:16.000 --> 22:18.000
So if you receive that golden
ticket, you got the message.

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Make sure you do as instructed
to claim your prize.

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And I'm looking forward to
talking to one, or perhaps two
winners.

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Are you ready or rock?

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This is the story.

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I'm a rock and low, but let's
rock.

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This is it.

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My goal, but let's rock and roll
geek show.

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The hands down.

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Cool.

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Rock podcast online.

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Hosted by the world's number
one.

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Rock and roll geek.

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American Heartbreaker.

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Michael Butler.

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So crank it up.

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And get that.

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With some of the craze, rock and
roll.

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For the San Francisco.

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We're all the geeks rock.

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And rock lives off.

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This is your rock and roll geek
show.

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With Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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Michael Butler.

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When you can listen to the
future.

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Hi Adam.

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This is Chris Future.

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With the Think Future Radio
Show.

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Happy to be the newest member of
the Pot Show family.

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Thanks for taking me on.

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You know when I first started
podcasting a year ago, I knew
something was missing.

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Kick ass, take no prisoners
political rant radio.

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Sure, there's probably a bit out
there, but hardly any in the
podcast world.

23:50.000 --> 23:53.000
This is one of the reasons I
started a Think Future Radio
Show.

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What's it all about?

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Well, I'm a political
commentator.

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I'm libertarians of both sides
hate me equally.

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And I'm also into giving a voice
and power and freedom to the
people.

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What else do I talk about?

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Well, pretty much every goddamn
thing under the sun.

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Current events, politics,
Hillary.

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It's going to be the next
president of the United States.

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Crazy ass drivers.

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I want to know what you're going
to fucking do.

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Use your goddamn signal lights.

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That's what they're there for.

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Stupid people.

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Fucking spits in home depot.

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Or even how to cook a perfect
turkey.

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Blining.

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You never know what you're going
to get.

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Every weekday, I'm a Think
Future Radio Show.

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Now, part of the Pot Show
network.

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Thanks again, Adam.

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No, Chris.

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Thank you.

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Welcome to La Familia, my
friend.

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And nice meeting you the other
day at the Pot Show HQ.

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If you're checking us out on
Serious Stars 102,

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don't forget to listen to
Digital Flotsom tonight at 9
o'clock.

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Mr. and PCH is next.

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We'll be back here tomorrow with
a thank God.

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It's Friday edition.

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Oh, the show.

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Shit couldn't fit that one in.

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Sorry about it.

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I didn't have time to play my
satellite repair managing.

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Oh, I love hearing it so much.

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By the way, if you.

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Peter.

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What is going on outside?

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Oh, that's inside.

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I'm sorry.

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It's this cleaning of the
cottage day.

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Peter abused his own go daddy
code to the set-up satellite
repairman.com.

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That's real easy to remember
isn't I don't know how you spell
satellite.

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S-A-T-E-L-L-I-T-E.

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Satellite repairman.com will
take you to digitalflotsom.org.

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Something just.

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Man, that is a lot of noise
isn't it?

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I hate that.

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Something else I was going to
say.

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Okay, I don't remember.

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It is really time for vacation,
my friends.

25:35.000 --> 25:36.000
Hi, Adam Curry.

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Oh, no, no, no, no.

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We can't just start them off
like that.

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I'm so sorry, CSB.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Comic strip.

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Hi, Adam Curry.

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Enter the middle of April.

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It means until the 50s April.

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I will not be sending to you any
more audio comments.

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And by then, I will not be
posting any comments on your
blog.

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You are going to holiday to
beautiful Portugal, so you
deserve some tranquility.

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Speaking of Portugal, I would be
grateful if you could plaque
this message to Netherlands

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because the time of decision is
right now, exactly now.

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Dear Netherlands, please take
example from Portugal and some
other EU countries

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and open yourself for new EU
citizens from Eastern Europe.

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This will be good also for
economy of Netherlands.

26:36.000 --> 26:40.000
Please, with sugar and
marshmallows on top.

26:40.000 --> 26:47.000
So, Adam Curry have a nice
holiday and don't do any
podcasts or video casts while on
holiday.

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Enjoy your gals, some other
gals, enjoy the sea and just
take time off without
podcasting.

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Bye.

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Oh, comic strip blogger.

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That's so nice of you.

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Man, what's happening?

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You know, the CSB has really
got, you know, he really knows
what's going on in the European
Union.

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I do like it when he sends me
something that's useful in that
regard because there is a lot of
weird stuff going on.

27:09.000 --> 27:14.000
You know, if you compare the EU,
the European Union to the United
States,

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which of course was the entire
idea to create one monetary unit
to create a single union.

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There's all these problems at
the local level.

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I mean, just imagine that, you
know, you could not go from one
state to the next state

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or from New York to Connecticut.

27:32.000 --> 27:35.000
Yeah, you could go there to
visit, but you couldn't actually
work there.

27:35.000 --> 27:38.000
You know, there's all kinds of
things that are happening.

27:38.000 --> 27:40.000
And comic strip blogger really
is on top of it.

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So, appreciate it.

27:41.000 --> 27:44.000
I am taking along some
equipment, not a full mobile
set.

27:44.000 --> 27:48.000
I'll take along cast blaster and
the wireless love mic just in
case,

27:48.000 --> 27:50.000
well, this case is something
that we want to do.

27:50.000 --> 27:56.000
And of course, I'm taking along
my video camera for, you know,
our own vacation stuff and
pictures, etc.

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So, I'm sure that, you know, in
the 10 days there's no way I can
stay offline.

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And, you know, I have to get
online at least once a day to
empty out my freaking Gmail.

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God damn, you know, they're
coming out with that, with that
corporate Gmail,

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where you can use your own
domain name, etc.

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I'm hoping, what it comes with
now comes standard with two gigs
per account.

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I'm hoping that since it is a
corporate service, that's,

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God, what is that noise?

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It's pissing me off.

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Soundproof the studio now?

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I'm hoping that I'll be able to
buy more space when that becomes
fully available.

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I've signed up for the
day-to-now and,

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God, that is so annoying isn't
it?

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It's really distracting me.

28:39.000 --> 28:42.000
Okay, so going on vacation won't
be doing podcasts.

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Yesterday, a great idea was
thrown up,

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it was thrown into the
discussion about the box,

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B.O.C.S. Bravo Oscar Charlie.

28:51.000 --> 28:54.000
In other words, the best of
Charlie.

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Hey Adam, it's listener Jim
again.

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Hey, I just got back in Hong
Kong from a couple days in
China.

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It's now 1230 in the morning on
Thursday,

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and caught up on the Charlie 361
and part of 362.

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I'm glad to hear that you played
my comment about the box,

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and I'm really excited about
Ellie's proposal to have the
listeners generate that,

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I think it's a great idea.

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I'm not a position to start
creating any podcasts yet.

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I haven't even got my own off
the ground.

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But I do have some ideas that
some of the other podcasters

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that listeners out there might
want to take and run with.

29:25.000 --> 29:28.000
One would be a show dedicated to
FAQ.

29:28.000 --> 29:31.000
Another would be a show
dedicated to the birth of
Trinity,

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and I think a couple of the
funniest ones could be shows
dedicated to feedback

29:34.000 --> 29:38.000
from Madge or even better yet
feedback from comic strip
blogger.

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Anyway, there's a few ideas.

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Again, have a great vacation.

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Look forward to hearing what
your listeners come up with.

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I think it will do make great
shows.

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Well, Julie soon.

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Let me tell you, man, that
already I've received three

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of Bravo Oscar Charlie's.

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Three of them this morning.

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Just since that one thing, that
one comment,

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the one discussion we had
yesterday,

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I really, I can't tell you how
blown away I am by that.

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And how much I appreciated.

30:03.000 --> 30:06.000
So I need four more, and anyone
who sends that in,

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I'll make sure you get a nice
bag of podshow,

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swag, t-shirts, and crap, and
what have you.

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Sam Levin will put some crap
together.

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It'll be nice and that you'll
enjoy.

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And I really, really appreciate
the whole thought.

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Great idea.

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And it's unfortunate that we
don't have the full PDN up in
rolling,

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because you can put shows up for
delivery at a certain day,

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or a certain time.

30:29.000 --> 30:32.000
So I'm going to preload all
those,

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but it really would be before
the launch.

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So we have to figure out some
way to be posting those shows,

30:36.000 --> 30:40.000
while I'm, excuse me, I'm not
even drinking a sense say,

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oh, I don't know with, oh,
heartburn, gastronomic issues.

30:47.000 --> 30:50.000
But yeah, we got, we got some
great, great shows,

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and it's just blown me away.

30:52.000 --> 30:53.000
Hey Adam, Jim again.

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One more show idea that you've
got to include

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is a show dedicated to Roger
Small.

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Maybe even Roger could host that
show.

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Boy, that would be great to hear
him talking about his own
comments.

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And what was going on in his
mind when he actually made the
calls to you.

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Yeah, really.

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Anyway, this whole idea of
listener generated shows gave me

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one more thing to think about.

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You've already admitted that 70%
of your show

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or more comes from listener
generated input.

31:19.000 --> 31:23.000
Well, if you now have listeners
that are editing and preparing
your shows,

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you may just be able to quit
your quit your day job job.

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Imagine that sitting around
getting paid

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for preparing shows that you
don't prepare

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with content that you don't
make.

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Boy, now that's my idea of
hitting a lot of.

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Take care.

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Talk to you soon.

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I love that.

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That would be, now, when we get
to that point,

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that's when I can just slowly
fade to black.

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Wouldn't that be nice?

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Great idea, man.

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Love it.

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Take the dudes and do debts, but
dudes.

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Have you seen the most recent
soccer girl video?

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You know, the soccer girl, of
course,

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part of the podcast network.

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And she's also a part of the one
message,

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one brand many voices campaign
for Go Daddy.

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Just around you, the end of her
most recent video.

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She has a very interesting way
of,

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remember now, what we're doing
here is we're leaving all of the
creative

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advertising up to the podcasts
as themselves,

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because only they know how to
communicate with their audience.

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And soccer girl definitely is
onto what her audience wants.

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I suggest you take a look at it.

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It's certainly not family or
kids safe, but very, very funny.

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And by the way, soccer girl, I
think I'd like to rent that
space

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myself in the near future.

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I think it's very, very
valuable.

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And I just want, I wrote this
down.

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I wanted to talk to about this
for a couple of days now,

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because I guess it's kind of
subsided in the world press,

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but there's still a lot of crap
going on in France.

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And there's a lot of riots and
burnings of cars,

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and people getting beaten into
the hospital.

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And I just wanted to tell you
what this was about,

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because I find it fascinating.

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There was a law that was
proposed.

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Now, I'm not sure, I'm sure
comics are blogger.

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We'll put in the comments the
exact details.

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From what I understand, the
government, either wanted to

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or pass the law that made the
hiring,

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but particularly the firing of
employees much easier.

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And much easier for young people
to get fired.

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Now, that, of course, is the way
it's being portrayed,

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but really what it is.

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The relaxation on the employment
rules.

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Now, in the United States
certainly,

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and I believe in the United
Kingdom,

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the fire at any moment for
pretty much any reason.

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I think this is a good thing.

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And this is a totally an
American viewpoint,

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but this is coming from an
entrepreneur

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who is also set up companies in
other countries.

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The Netherlands is one.

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And in the Netherlands, when
you're hired,

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a couple of things happen.

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First of all, guaranteed
benefits, which is great.

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You don't get that in many other
countries.

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You don't get that necessarily
in the United States.

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By the way, at Pod Show, you do.

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And I must say, many of our
podcasters also receive similar
benefits.

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That you get right off the bat.

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Then you get something called
the 13th month,

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which is automatic, which means
as an employer,

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you have to pay all of your
employees an extra month salary.

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Not for working just because
that's the law.

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And then you have vacation
money.

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And you can't fire anyone.

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Even with just cause, you have
to buy them out.

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And usually, there's a whole
formula for it,

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but you have to take them to
court, and it's very, very
difficult.

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But what this breeds is
laziness.

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And I have seen this in every
single one of my companies.

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Because once people are in,
they're like, OK.

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I got a job.

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Now, I'm set.

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You know, they come in at five
after nine.

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They have the code on at five
minutes to five.

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You know, they, oh, I don't feel
good today.

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I'll just stay home.

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Very, very, very difficult to
operate a business.

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And if someone just isn't
working out.

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I'm sorry.

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You have to leave.

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Now, of course, what happens is
you can hire people on a
short-term contract basis.

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And this is the really bad
thing.

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His company's hire young people
for a two or three month
contract.

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And then they, they say, OK,
let's get into your contract.

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I think you can do it twice.

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So in total, maybe for six
months.

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But it's a horrible, horrible
system.

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Now, the contrarian view, of
course, as Europeans will often
say, or say,

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they've said to me, well, yeah,
but you know, you use this fear.

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And everyone's afraid of getting
fired.

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And I was, you know, never in my
life have I ever threatened or
had to threaten anyone

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with being fired.

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In fact, I think you'll find in
the US that it's,

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it's so cultural that it's not
fear.

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It's just people want to do a
good job.

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You know, and they put in the
work because they're excited
about it.

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Now, there's also lots of
incentives at Pod Show.

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There's, you know, there's stock
incentives and ownership of the
company and, you know,

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all kinds of things that we do.

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But now, here are these kids
that are rioting in France
because they are not

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being given the security that
they expect from a welfare
state.

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The very careful United States
have ever tried to integrate
this.

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I mean, I'm all from medical
benefits, and I wish we could
figure that out.

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And, you know, on a company by
company basis, it's either good
or bad, essentially.

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But wow, I can't believe that
this is what they're fighting
about, you know,

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instead of going out and getting
a fucking job, you know, or
work, you know, trying to get a
job.

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You know, no, we're just going
to go riot because it's not what
we deserve.

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And this is this whole welfare
state, man.

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It's like, I hear people in
Europe all the time talk about
what they feel they deserve.

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And, you know, this happened and
I deserve compensation.

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So France gets your act
together.

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People of France, I just say,
please get your act together.

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Just, you know, find, do
something more productive than
this.

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Okay.

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I don't know if that came out
right, but I think you kind of
understand what I'm talking
about.

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Hey, a couple more things before
we wrap it up for today.

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Hi, Adam, this is Peter from
Internet Communicators.

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And I like to comment on
something you were talking about
in 3601,

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the Charlie 3601 about part two
mob and the way that they tried
to get to put

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advertising stuff in front of
your podcast.

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We at Internet Communicators
developed a portal,

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site called part promo station.

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You can find that part promo
station dot com where you can
find

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podcasts where you can listen to
podcasts where you can see some
sort of a visual

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that belongs to that podcast
where you can download the
podcast where you can subscribe

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or you can see websites
anything.

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And we are seriously thinking
about putting ads on that
website.

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Visual ads, not audio ads,
visual ads like banner stuff
like that.

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And, well, you know, I don't see
that much of a difference
between ads on a website

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and yes, that are in front of a
mobile service like the part two
mob guys did.

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So I like to have your opinion
on that because I don't want to
get sued by the

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part father himself.

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Never.

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I don't think that's a very good
idea.

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I don't have that much money.

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I can tell you that.

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Okay, thank you for your time
and I'm looking forward to your
comment on our

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comment and I hope to speak to
you later.

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Goodbye.

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Well, okay, that's very, and
there's quite a healthy

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conversation going on about
this.

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I think the easiest way to test
your theory is why don't you
take

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a podcast from a mainstream
media company.

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So take one from clear channel
has lots of the audio podcast
and you could probably

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get one from NPR and why don't
you start putting ads in front
of that.

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And then see what and then let
them know that you're doing it
and give them your

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theory and then see what
happens.

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Because it ain't going to work
that way.

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Wait, I have another comment
about this.

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Hello Adam, this is Kevin from
Coloring Outside the Lines.

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Then I have a serious issue with
Pod to mom.

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The issue is not monetary.

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It's with associations.

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I am very careful as a
professional body painter of
what gets associated with my
artwork.

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I just want to say that all that
crackling noise that's his
recording, not my, not my set
up.

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So kind of listen through it
because it's worth it.

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And I am also consider it to
those people who would like to
have ads in my

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show.

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The reason why is because of the
nature of my work.

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Associations can be very
detrimental.

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I really don't like the idea
that a company could take an ad.

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Let's say adult websites porn.

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And put it in front of my show.

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I really don't like that.

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Now I'm not saying that Pod to
mom is going to start selling
porn.

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But I don't like the idea that
they could.

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Now let's look at it at the
bigger picture.

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And this is what happens if
let's say a casino starts
running ads.

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So these godcasters now have
their shows sandwiched in
between casinos.

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Or let's say we find out that
there's a company that screws
you over in the past and now
you're advertising for them.

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I don't think I would like that
at all.

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Now I've seen some comments
saying that well what's the
difference between that and like
the podcast pickle and podcast
alley.

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They have ads.

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The difference is that there is
a distinct difference in
mediums.

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The problem I have with Pod to
mom is that they're using the
same medium to do their
advertisements.

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So it makes it almost
indistinguishable.

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Now for those people who are
starting to wonder exactly why
am I concerned about this and

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after all associations are no
big deal.

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I only have one thing to say.

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I haven't even heard that way.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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It worked.

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Okay.

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Let's talk about Pod to mom for
a second.

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So there's a couple of different
things.

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First of all, anything that you
create anybody anywhere, whether
you just write something

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down on a piece of paper or
whether you record something
automatically that is your
copyrighted work.

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You don't have to register that.

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You don't have to do anything
more.

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It's your work and it's
copyrighted and that is pretty
much the law everywhere as far
as I know.

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The use of your work falls under
whatever copyright you choose to
give use choose to put on it.

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So basically no one can use that
work without express permission.

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Things like creative comments
have made it very easy so that
instead of, you know, people
having to contact the originator
of a work continuously to find
out what can I do with this,
what you will allow me to do
with this.

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The creative comments licenses
really say, okay, here's what
you're allowed to do.

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For instance, I would deem this
this podcast.

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Licenseable under the creative
comments copyright attribution
non-commercial share like, which
means you have to share it the
same way.

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You have to credit where it
comes from and you can't use it
in any commercial venture.

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That is very different from a
directory link.

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By the way, I have to say that
using a shows picture as a
directory link.

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Actually, I guess you should ask
for permission to use that,
which brings up an interesting
point a lot of people have
mentioned about the podshow.com
directory listings.

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We're definitely changing that.
We went through this whole thing
with Jason Calcanas before and
we've, we've now put in the
website links.

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But within two weeks, it's all
going to change and there will
be no huge ads next to the
listing.

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So, you know, that's, we're not
trying to make anything look
like ours.

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Really, we're just focusing on a
whole bunch of other stuff and,
you know, the only thing we
could do is pull it all down.

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But it's now, you know, in the
middle of an integration with
podcast alley.

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So apologies for people who
don't like that.

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The whole thing has been
discussed and in open form, just
look for the blog post from
Jason Calcanas and myself about
that.

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So we are changing that because
I don't think that's exactly
right either. That placement is
not proper.

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But we could actually have the
discussion where if you are, if
you've not expressly submitted
your podcast to the podcast
alley directory to podshow that
we shouldn't be able to use your
logo, that would make sense.

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It would be a shame, obviously,
because it's all it is for
promotional purposes.

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It's like the phone book, you
know, we're trying to get people
to make it easy to find stuff.

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So directories is pretty much
inherent to the internet. Now,
when it comes to taking, I'll
just use my podcast in this
example.

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Taking that and presenting that
to anyone in any way shape or
form where it could be deemed
confusing.

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And the law does have an
alloyer, but the law does have
some very specific jurisprudence
about consumer or customer or
user confusion.

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If it seems like the ads are a
part of a podcast, then there's
definitely a case.

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Now, specifically with pod to
mob, let me just backtrack a
little bit.

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So they have been around for a
while, and they've, you know,
either sucked out other
directories, which is perfectly
cool.

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You know, we make our
directories available,
certainly, any part of that org
to take that, that opium l file,
the listing and use that
anywhere you want.

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Because that's good. It's
distribution for everybody. I
totally agree with it. I think
it's great that you are able to
receive podcasts on your cell
phone.

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Now, when I checked out the
service, you know, the first
thing I heard was this podcast
is brought to you by and then
there was a ringtone company.

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And then my show started with
our own ad insertion or tag
insertion of go daddy. That's a
violation of the copyright
because it's confusing
consumers.

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Now, after, and by the way, I
never submitted anything to
their directorie, you know, the
guys from pod to mob are very,
very vague.

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And since we've started this
whole brewha, they have changed
what they're doing, for
instance.

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So my show has been removed from
the directory entirely upon my
request, by the way.

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But Don and Drew is an example
of still in there. Now, what has
changed is pod to mob is no
longer serving ads. Here's what
they're doing.

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Let me see if I can make this
work. It's coming from from a
different computer that I've
passed into the board.

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And it's streaming, of course.

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The podcast you requested is
being brought to you by pod to
mob.com. Please tell your
friends. They don't need an iPod
to listen to podcasts.

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Thank you very much, and now
here's your podcast.

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See how that I like. I really
don't have a problem with that.

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I'm okay. I think they still
should ask me for the permission
to do that. Now, in fact, I
demand they asked for permission
to do that.

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But I would say, yeah, that's
okay. You can do that, but you
can't go inserting ads.

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Now, let me say something about
pod to mob. So I've discussed
this on the show.

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We've had there's been many
postings about it.

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And I've sent several emails
I've had Brian Longer, start
director of operations, call
them. They're not getting back
to me at all.

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And I think that these guys are
a bunch of quite honestly shady
characters from LA who are in
the ringtone business.

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And they're in the ringtone
business, or being in the
ringtone business makes them
very knowledgeable about how to
get stuff, you know,

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little applications on to cell
phones. So, you know, they have
all the right knowledge, but I
think they have the wrong
business acumen.

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And they're not being very
apologetic at all. They're
trying to defend their business
model.

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And what I'm getting, and this
is the most interesting thing.
I'm getting emails and comments
from everywhere saying,

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Oh, go sue them. Go sue them.
Take them out. No, you know
what? We're not going to do
that.

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Go take care of yourselves. I'm
going to take care of our shows
and make sure that we're
protected because I don't want
any more fights with people.

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I don't want fights legal fights
with these guys.

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And there could be more on the
horizon because ringtone guys
are doing really nasty shit.

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As an example, Jeff Smith, who
makes all those wonderful
jingles like...

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This is popping up on ringtone
websites all over the internet.

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Without any permission to do so,
no relationship to the creative
of the work Jeff Smith and even
worse.

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They're putting a different
owner, author name, onto this
ringtone.

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And I'll tell you why. The
ringtone business is a part of
the big record industry, the
RIA.

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And when you sell a ringtone, a
portion of that sale goes to the
author composer, the owner of
the rights, basically, of that
ringtone.

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So what they're doing is they're
stealing this ringtone and
several others of Jeff's, by the
way, putting it up for sale.

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And then, first they take the
sale amount, the transaction,
and then on the back end, they
get it, they get money paid from
AskCat,

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BMI for the distribution. And
this is something that we really
need to go after.

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I mean, these guys are chisters.
So I can only think that if
you've got pod to mob, who are
kind of in that ringtone
business,

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that they do not have podcasters
best intentions at heart.

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Unless they prove otherwise,
which would be really nice if
they responded in a proper
manner, either privately through
email,

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by picking up the phone and
calling the numbers we left for
them, or by really getting into
the conversation.

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So far, I've seen nothing but
hogwash, and I do not trust
these guys.

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And now, one last song for
y'all, from the pod save music
network.

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If you've got a grandma, you may
appreciate this song.

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Or if you are a grandma, listen
to this Charlie.

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I'm almost turning I need to.

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[ Music ]

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And swear she smiled before she
left.

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I felt the world fall off her
chest.

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[ Music ]

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Grandma's going to fly.

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From the pod safe music network.

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John Nicholson, Tennessee, and
Grandma's getting high.

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Forzens of today's podcast
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I'll be back tomorrow.

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Thanks for listening to my
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