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Delta Sierra Charlie 3-7-3.

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What's that up in this guy?

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Play with your crown in the
tailwind.

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But you're really doing it.

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It's no no no.

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Look out!

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It's the pissed off Adam Curry.

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It's the cheese of Adam Curry.

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It's the ticked off Adam Curry.

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He's pissed off.

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A $16 million worth of airplane
scrapped to my ass.

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Done the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying you
to the future.

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[ Music ]

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Get mad at me.

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It's fake.

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You're gon' dare.

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You gotta love somebody.

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You gotta love somebody.

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Get the love.

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Oh.

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You gotta love.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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We never see the love.

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Yeah.

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Because they never get past her
back because they're rolled and
broke down.

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I won't get over that.

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These are a love!

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You gotta catch the love!

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Yeah.

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We never see the love.

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Lovely to see the love!

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You never see the love!

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You never even swim!

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Yeah.

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I never see the love!

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You never see the love!

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I look back.

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I see the love!

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I don't care.

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You say where I said right here,
right now

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[ Music ]

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Love them with it down, never
mind it come on

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Get around town and smell the
love

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Spread it out there, spread the
love

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Shake it like I don't care

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Love them with it

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The fabulously talented Jeff
Smith

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With the love everybody song

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Which he made just for me and
for

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And for magic as well

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Wow, before that Derek Kay
Miller did the

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I'm creepy, pissed off curry

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Show opener there

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How are you doing everybody?

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It's Monday the start of a new
week

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Daily source code is on coming
you from the curry cottage

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In the affluence suburb of
Gilford and Surrey in the United
Kingdom

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Wow

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Oh man, I'm still not completely
decompressed

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From 372 from Friday's show

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And what an amazing thing has
happened here

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I still haven't really had the
time to completely collect my
thoughts about this

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So I'll do my best today

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Of course, if you haven't
already, if you did here

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Charlie 372

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Please go and listen to Richard
Bluesteens

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Response on yeast2.com

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That's where Richard surfaces
versus Madge on yeast radio

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You definitely have to listen to
that

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I think most people who've been
a part of the conversation

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Have already done that

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And right off the top, just let
me say that

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Richard and I are cool

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This is what you can do with
people that you respect

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And people that you love and
people that you

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That you trust, you know, you
can have this type of
conversation

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Usually it's not held out in the
open in the school yard

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Like the way we did it

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But we're totally cool just want
to put that up front

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And in fact, we haven't really
had a full-blown conversation

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Yet we've only had some email
back and forth

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And that's mainly due to time
differences

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And just schedules and all that
stuff

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But we're okay, totally okay

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But boy, I think we've both
learned quite a bit

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Not just about the topic at hand

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But about

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About ourselves, perhaps, about
heart relationship

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And really, I've learned a
tremendous about

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I've really learned a couple of
things about this show

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And about podcasting

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What was the most beautiful
thing for me

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Watching on this, there was not
one, there's a couple

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Let's start off by saying

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That having a conversation about
bigotry and about words

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And actually being able to use
the words was the most
liberating thing

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I've ever done in front of a
microphone

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Or a camera in my life

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And I've been a broadcaster for

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More than half my life

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I've been a podcaster for over
two years

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But to actually talk about, you
know, gaze and lesbians and fags

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And queers and queens and dikes

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And blacks and niggers and
spicks and Jews

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And all this stuff and actually
be able to say the words

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And not have people freak out
about the conversation

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Containing the words was a
beautiful, beautiful thing

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And it's a true testament to
what we're doing here in
podcasting

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And I received so many audio
feedbacks and emails

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It's just no way I could ever
even get to all of it

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And I really don't think I
should actually

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Because I want to put this
episode behind us

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But move forward the momentum
that we've picked up on here

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Now, not only was that fantastic

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That we had, you know, this
conversation

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And boy, it was a real
conversation

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And I have email

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Okay, so here's what excites me
very much

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Is that for the first time in
really

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I'd have to say since I've been
podcasting at all

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The listeners came out

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The listeners came out and
started emailing me

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And they typically start off by
saying

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What a podcaster, I'm just a
listener

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And here's what I have to say
about it

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Some of them literally came out

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I think at least three or four
people who emailed me

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Came out and said, you know, I'm
gay or lesbian

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Or, you know, I'm not completely
out

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Not everyone knows it and here's
my feelings

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About the whole conversation

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Which was, I mean, gosh, when
someone comes out to you

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Whether it's in person or an
email

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That's a huge, huge thing

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In fact, let me just read one
email that I received

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So I removed the name obviously

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After listening to your show

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Number 372, I felt that I had to
write you

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And share my opinions. First of
all, I'm a lesbian

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And I'm not fully out of the
closet yet

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My friends know, but that's
pretty much it

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Anyway, when I first started
accepting that I was gay

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I became very offended when I
heard people say things

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Like fruitcake, dike, faggot, et
cetera

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I stopped becoming offended when
I realized that

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Every person that says faggot or
gay

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Or what not, it's not a
homophobic

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It's not trying to be offensive

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It's not trying to promote hate
towards homosexuals

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And most times, they're not even
referring to homosexuals

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And I don't think it was fair
match to say things that you did

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I really enjoyed the show
because I think it's a wake-up
call

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To those who are so offended by
name calling

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And feel it the world owes them
something

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Arguing over semantics is not
going to save

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One homosexual from suicide

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Creating a more tolerant world

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That accepts people for who they
are

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Will

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Thank you very much for this
show

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Well, thank you very much for
that comment

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I got a lot of comments like
that

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But the fact that listeners

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We're now coming out of the
quote woodwork

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And speaking up really hit me

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And as I started to evaluate

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And I continuously evaluate

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The daily source code

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I continue

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And the feedback that you give
me

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And of course, everyone has
their own opinion

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And some people like long shows

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Some people like short shows,
some people

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Rather have five short shows

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Some people would have it,
rather have three longer shows

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Some people want promo

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Some people hate promo

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But one thing is very sure

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It's very certain for me is that

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We're still really

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Too much of a closed off

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Excuse me, Sensei

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Close off community

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And it's not by design

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It's not a fault in any way

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But if I think about who's
really sending me feedback

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And who's participating in the
source code

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It is overwhelmingly other
podcasters

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So that to me means that
something should change

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Because now finally

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And you know I love getting
feedback

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From people who are listeners

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By the way, if you send me an
email

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Or if you get around to making
audio comment

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And I guess what I really should
do

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And that's part of the problem
here

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And we're just not ready yet
with podshow

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Plus in the pdn

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But the minute that's out

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It should be a heck of a lot
easier for people

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For listeners who maybe don't
have the the means

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The technological understanding
etc

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To just send feedback

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Maybe you just have some widget

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You know you just download that

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And you click it and as long as
you have a microphone

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You click once to record and
click again

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And it sends it off or something
like that

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That would be probably very
smart

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And I think of it

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I really want to tap into that
more

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Because that's where we're going
to really get some growth

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From in this stuff that we're
doing

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Is involving the listener more

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And I really do believe now that
the listeners who are out there

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Are just listening and and

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And maybe some of them will say
yeah

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You know I'd love to do a
podcast in the future

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And in fact we'll talk about
that later

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Yesterday I met a couple of
folks who said exactly that

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But to actually for the first
time

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Have listeners who have nothing
to do with the

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Development of podcasting

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Nothing to do with the creative
side of creating podcast

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Was just very very exciting to
me

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Mark Yoshimoto Nemkov sent in a
comment

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Who was of course in a way also
involved in

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In this conversation

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Mark from the Pacific Coast
Hellway

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And he probably had the best
line

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That I encountered and all this
feedback

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He says dude

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I love the fact that you
defended my name

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And all uncut guys and nearly
the same breath

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Yeah

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And you know

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And I think I said that on
Fridays

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That I'm so envious often of

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People like Mark who couldn't
who can write a rant

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And then deliver that

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Because I'm pretty much sure he
writes all his stuff

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He's a fantastic writer and

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And to be able to to write
something

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And deliver the rant and make it
sound like

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It's you know it's coming out at
that moment

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Is really

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That's you got to have talent to
do that

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And by the way

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Magic has obviously has that
talent as well

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I'm not very good at it

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But what you heard Friday and
this is something

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That I also have to take into
consideration

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You heard the non-splift version
of the curry

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And now you know why Patricia
suggested

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Like 19 almost 20 years ago

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When we were

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We'd been together for about six
months or so

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She said you know you really
should try smoking dope once in
a while

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And that'll stop your brain
that'll slow you down a bit

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And I hadn't done so

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Since Thursday afternoon

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All the way through Friday

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Because I really wanted to have
my head on straight

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But what happens is is then all
the stuff comes up

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The stuff that is of course
normally suppressed

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By the holy herb

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And so there's good news and bad
news there

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Good news is boy

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I'll probably live a hell of a
lot longer

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If I continue my daily regimen

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And a nice and calm and cool and
collected on the other hand

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The stuff that came out

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And the way it came out

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And as I was going through this
show

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Which I had really hadn't done
any preparation

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Other than just set up the audio
stuff that I wanted to play

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I could feel it

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I felt like wow

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I'm in this

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The rant is working

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It's trucking along

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I felt like I was making some
sense

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But really

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It's incredibly emotionally
draining

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So now what is it that

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That caught everyone

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And was it just the word that
we're using

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Was it just the conversation

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Yes, I think that's a big part
of it

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Obviously and this is something
we've known

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We've been saying for a long
time

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You know as long as you podcast
with passion

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Well

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I think that may be partially
correct

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It's not just the passion

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It is when someone hears the
true emotion

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Coming out of another human
being

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That's when

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People get switched on

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That is

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Part of what is so incredibly
different

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And I've been thinking about
this all week

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And even though it's been a very
busy week

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And then I haven't had a lot of
downtime

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Crunch and turnily and try and
figure this out

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But that is it

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Now luckily

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We don't only have one emotion

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Anger of course is one that

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I think that maybe we all

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Well here's a good one for you

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Is everyone's version of the
emotion anger the same

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I think it probably comes close

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And this is

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This is why guys like a Rush
Limbaugh

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I think as an example

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It probably goes after the
lowest hanging fruit

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Of the emotional tree

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By poking at people's emotions

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And getting them all pissed off
and angry

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By being emotional and pissed
off and angry

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That's where you make a
connection

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As I said I think that's

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Sometimes it can be fantastic

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Anger can be really good

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Anger is in many ways a
beautiful emotion

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But there's no way that I'll be
able to make a show

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As the pissed off Adam Curry

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There's just no way

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And even if I could do it

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I'm not going to do it

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It's very draining

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And if quite frankly it's not
all that fun

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The release is fantastic

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I mean that's like one huge
intellectual orgasm

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But you know it's

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It's only once noile type of

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Type of experience as you want
to have

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So what I want to try and do

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It's figure out how to tap into
all the emotions

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And really make that connect

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This is perhaps what I first
heard

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With Dawn and Drew

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Before it became before it
really was

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The Dawn and Drew show

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And this is not a bad thing at
all

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Because I'm going through the
exact same

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I'm going down the exact same
path

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As many many podcasts are doing

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What was it that I loved about
Dawn and Drew

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In the beginning and still do by
the way

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Is the emotional connection

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Two people had who have clearly
been together

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For a long time and you can hear
it

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And it's a beautiful thing

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It's exactly the same

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Oh wow experience

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I had the first time I saw

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The Osborns

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The very first season of the
Osborns

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Which was a very low budget

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Greg Johnson who I worked with
for years

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Produced that

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Because he knew Ozzy or had some
connection

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There and it was really two
cameras

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And really just nothing

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Thought out ahead of time

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And it was really beautiful

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Because what happened was
everyone said

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Oh my gosh

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There's a guy who I had a

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It was of course a big brain
reset

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I thought that he was this
hardcore rocker

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Biting the heads off of bats

16:28.100 --> 16:30.100
And it turns out he's

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Like Archie Bunker and he has a
dysfunctional family

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Like mine and they have
arguments

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And they have love and it's all
very raw

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And pure and it's not polished

16:38.100 --> 16:40.100
And of course we've seen that
with many

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Reality programs

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And that doesn't have a change

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This thing start to get set up

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And written

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And I think that that was the

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That's really what I'd like to
tap into

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Now of course we have multiple
emotions

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And I think

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Some of that Donna drew stuff

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Or any two people who

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Who are in life together

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When they have a conversation

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It's just nice to hear when
Patricia comes in

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Everyone loves it

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I have never heard anyone say
that they don't like it

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When Patricia comes on this show

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Or when I'm talking to Christina

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When we're doing dad daughter
stuff

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Or I think laughter

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Of course is something an
emotion that everyone can tap
into

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That's very very difficult

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I'm not good at that at all

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It either happens naturally or
it doesn't

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I'm not very good at setting up
jokes and bits and

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And fun stuff

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And usually just me laughing at
myself

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Doing something stupid works

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And then there's love

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That's another

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That's part of the

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The duo

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Host thing

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Which you can really hear a

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Love emotion

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Something else that's played
into a lot

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Well in fact all the time by
news media

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Is your fear emotion

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Because it's very easy

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I mean that's what a

17:51.100 --> 17:54.100
Usment park rides are based on
fear

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So I hope I'm sounding a little
bit coherent here

17:56.100 --> 17:58.100
But I'm really trying to hone in
on

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Figuring out

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How I can tap into that more to
make this show better

18:02.100 --> 18:04.100
Because I want to reach more
people

18:04.100 --> 18:06.100
For me the success of the daily
source code

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Is in

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More people who are
participating

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Actively

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Whether that's through email or
whether it's through

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You know a voice mail

18:16.100 --> 18:18.100
Or or just saying hey

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I'm listening and you know it

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It really makes it all
worthwhile

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And it really has me excited

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Now that said

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I got some very important emails

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From people

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Important because they really
struck home

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And I've mentioned this
particular

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Type of email to a couple other
people

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And the response is always the
same

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It's oh yeah

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And I also must say that I
forgot

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Momentarily

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That both match

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But certainly Richard Blustine

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Are still in a grieving period

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For the loss of one

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And boy

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You know that can really

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Reset your that can mess up your
filters and your brain

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The only people who can

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Forgive someone who is grieving

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And says or does certain things

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Our friends and family

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Because they understand that
person

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And of course I forgive Richard

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Are you crazy? I love it

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He's a great guy

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And so that's just something I
wanted to make sure that
everyone just

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Thought about for a second
because that does put some of
this into perspective

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But you know it doesn't matter
again

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I do it all over again if we
could because what happened

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And the beauty of everyone

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Jumping in

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And very civilly I must say yeah

19:38.100 --> 19:40.100
There was a little bit of
there's always some

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Signal to noise in in that type
of conversation

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But much lower noise than signal

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And then I've seen in a long
long time

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So thank you all for
participating

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Thank you all for participating

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Thank you all for being a part
of it

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And thank you all for just

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Changing something in me

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So I'm going to try and continue
on it

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I'm going to try and figure out
what it is

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And try to do a lot more of it

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Are we are we just only now
starting to understand the power
of the internet

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This oh wow

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I think that maybe in five years

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We will only just have reached
the tipy top of this

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Of this iceberg that is
underneath the blue ocean of how
powerful

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I don't know if you can you
can't really control it

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But I've gotten pretty good
identifying flow and seeing

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When something catches on

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And there's nothing you can once
it catches

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There's nothing you can do about
it

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You can only

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You can just ride it out

20:36.100 --> 20:38.100
If you happen to be on the wave

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You can see it coming

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There's not much you can do to
turn it left to right

20:42.100 --> 20:44.100
Now the question is how do you
get stuff like that started

20:44.100 --> 20:46.100
But I don't want it to be
negative

20:46.100 --> 20:48.100
Sometimes it can be negatives

20:48.100 --> 20:52.100
It's clearly always based on
people's emotions

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And I think that we are

20:54.100 --> 20:56.100
We've got the training wheels on
friends

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We are just

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Just getting started in

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Understanding

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What this stuff is

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And it's big it is so much
bigger

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And we don't know how to use it
at all

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That that's what this whole
episode show me

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We have no clue

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You know you just you just
lighten matches

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And you're you're slamming
stones together

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And also fire

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Look, in fact, maybe that is
exactly what this is

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We are the cavemen of

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Gerati, you know we're just a

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Fire, this is wonderful fire

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And we haven't learned how to
contain it

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We're a long way off from
nuclear

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You know what I'm saying? We've
got such a long way to go

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So

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I looked around for a song

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It's going to run over the
satellite

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We know for those you're
listening on

21:46.100 --> 21:48.100
Serious starts 102

21:48.100 --> 21:50.100
You'll get to PCH next and you
won't hear the entire song

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But I thought it was so
appropriate

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And I know that module totally
understand

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And this is really true at the
end of the day

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11 when you just say it in the
song, you know, just use the
words and say it really really
works for me and throughout all
this

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I've seen changes in many many
people. Most prevalent

26:36.580 --> 26:38.580
Most prevalent is

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our friend

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Comic strip

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Comic strip

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Comic strip

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Comic strip

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Now listen to this one by C.S.B.

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Hello, Adam Curry made. We have
21st century nowadays and also
we still don't have flying cars
and

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intelligent robots. We have
global cyberspace calls these
days the internet

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People damage and attack other
people in this global cyberspace
to a very high extent

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That they wouldn't do in person
to person contacts

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There are three things that are
important to me in cyberspace
contacts one good wheel to

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reciprocate mutual two-sided
respect and three open-ness

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So one good wheel means that I
don't want to harm other people
over internet

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Two respect means that I don't
ridicule and I take seriously
other people and their
convictions and feelings

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Three open-ness means that if
somebody tells me that something
what I wrote on the internet is
a harming

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or damaging him or her

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Then I'm open and ready to take
it down or remove it. I am the
first ever paid advertiser in
podcasting

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I am fan of podcasting

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Hi, let me just stop there for
one second. C.S.B. and you know
very few people know this or
remember this

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But that is absolutely true

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comic strip blogger was

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As far as I know the first
person to advertise on a podcast

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And he did it by buying time on
the Donandru show before

28:32.500 --> 28:35.940
For Donandru were a part of the
pod show family and

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And in the end he did pay you
know and he was promoting MS
mobiles

28:41.540 --> 28:48.980
MS mobiles.com so I think was MS
mobiles.com or or Microsoft
mobile in general. I can't
recall

28:48.980 --> 28:50.980
But that is absolutely true and

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Definitely deserves credit for
that. However, I see that
podcasting is troubled with the
same problems that blocking is

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People attack people without
willingness to remove lies
surrender from the servers

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God gave us free wheel for a
reason

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God in this way washes his hands
of responsibility for our evil
deeds

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But at the same time free wheel
gives us ability to achieve
great things or to do good deeds

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The best kept secret of God is
that the hell and heaven are in
a reality here and now on earth

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Boohoo

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You've made my day with it.
Boohoo

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Boo yeah

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CSB getting all intellectual
love it. You're right comment
your blogger sees it

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He sees it we we still have our
training wheels on and what
we're doing now

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In blogging and in podcasting is
we're exercising our emotions

29:54.900 --> 30:00.900
We're exercising our feelings
we're exercising our free speech
and I hope we can get past the
training wheel stage pretty soon

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Cause man, I'm ready to ride the
bike for really, you know, I got
to figure it out

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I've got to figure out how to
how to stay balanced and then
this internet thing is going to
be extremely powerful

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Yes, we can shoot then we can
read if we figure out how to use
it how to harness

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Our emotions and how to project
those emotions take emotions
from others

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Mix them up into into something
that everybody can identify with
and share with and it not just
be anger and it not just be fear

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Then we truly can change the
world. I'm convinced of it

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So I'm going to work on it. I'm
going to try and figure it out
and that doesn't mean that I'm
not going to get it stuff

30:40.420 --> 30:47.540
Because that is you know, anger
is a beautiful emotion just not
all the time. It can be very
tiring and we know how to get it
out of me now

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Don't we and it's not just a
comment. It's it's the lack of
spliffage in my case

30:54.500 --> 30:56.500
Okay, so let's look at the week
that was Friday

30:57.460 --> 31:01.860
Over the weekend of course, I
got up early Saturday morning to
go fly and see my mom in

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She lives in bullscope which is
about so a 25 minute cab ride
from the Rotterdam Jet Center

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So I'd agreed with Captain Dan
who now Captain Dan is also
starting to loosen up a little
bit

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You know the first the flight we
made. I was like, you know,
anyone who's flown

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You're you're you're really
dependent upon each other and
there's a lot of trust you throw
into the cockpit right off the
bat

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Particularly with a much less
experienced pilot as myself. I
have to put a lot of my trust

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Into someone who has the
paperwork, but you really don't
know the guy and

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But you do start to build up
camaraderie very quickly and
Saturday

31:41.380 --> 31:44.420
We had our big camaraderie
moment which I

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Actually debated for a while
talking about this, but since
I'm still here. I'm very happy
to tell you

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Everything was great the weather

31:53.380 --> 31:58.740
Just fantastic on the on the UK
side of the channel Rotterdam
was not so nice at all

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It was the ceiling was a
thousand feet. They'd predicted
2000 feet, but it was a thousand
so

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Not the best weather at all to
be to be flying in now

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What we did is and what I'm
doing with with Captain Dan is
we do not use the GPS while
we're flying

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It's all instrument work. So
we're really stacking up the
radios now

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This is for another podcast
maybe a whole separate podcast
not for the Charlie, but how you
fly on instruments is

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It's really quite interesting.
You're doing it all based upon
radio signals and

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Directional beacons things
called VORs and NDBs and

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DMEs a distance measuring
equipment, so you so you know
how far you are from a certain
beacon and you try and

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You're late so you can figure
out where you are and you do
that with a map and

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Of course these days we have the
luxury of flying with with a GPS
where it shows you

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Have you don't have to figure
out how far away you are from a
certain beacon to be able to

32:50.340 --> 32:54.980
Triangulate it to know if you're
flying into someone's restricted
airspace. No, it's right on the
map

32:54.980 --> 32:58.500
You see a little airplane moving
towards the circle and you know
what you're doing

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But if you don't have a GPS or
if your GPS malfunctions

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Well, then you better know what
you're doing in order to get out
and also a part of

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The night flying and the bad
weather flying is all done on
these instruments in
coordination with air traffic
control

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But you really have to
understand the concept of flying
and and you've got to work ahead
of the aircraft

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You know we're doing 150 knots

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Which is fast

33:24.580 --> 33:26.580
Okay, it's really fast

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Even though it's not entirely
true just you can take a knot
for a my it's a nautical miles
actually so 150 is fast

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And

33:35.380 --> 33:40.180
You've got to work you know, so
the between you know in ten
miles at 150 miles now

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It doesn't take you very long,
you know, that's just that's
just a matter of minutes and so
you really have to have
everything dialed up

33:45.940 --> 33:51.140
And you're next next reporting
point your next beacon you have
to be able to tune into it

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So it's really nice to be able
to do that with two people
particularly someone who's been
doing it for a long time

33:56.900 --> 34:00.340
Now we crossed over the channel
and and I put that video up on

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On the curry dot com so you can
take a look at the just
fantastic weather over the
channel

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It was blue skies you could see
right down to the to the deck
you could see the the ships
going by now

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If you look closely at that
video you'll see

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something a very bad habit of
mine

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Which was broken

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Significantly

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During this flight is I often

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Just because I want less clutter
on my lap. You know, I've got a
clipboard and as pen and stuff
and you know

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You've got you there's a lot
going on on the cockpit. I often
will take my map fold it up and
shove it on the on the dashboard

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Kind of wedge it between the
door frame the dashboard and and
a little bit of the window

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And this is this was not a good
thing

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Here's what happened as we're
flying along and we were on
frequency the Dutch military
Dutch mill frequency

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Which is what everyone kind of
does on the weekend because in
in the Netherlands there are
very few airfields

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There's people don't like people
flying in Holland let me tell
you

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So the airfields that are there
are usually military and they're
closed on weekends

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If you ever want to invade that
country by the way the weekend
is the time to go because
everyone's off everyone's at
home

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So the airfields are not active
and

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You talk to Dutch mill and Dutch
mill basically talks to the you
know

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They have radar and they're
checking out everybody and and
of course sometimes you can get
very busy

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Wasn't all that busy because of
the weather and so we're flying
somewhere between

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Where are we at between Costa if
you're a pilot it's a KO code
COA which is a VOR

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And HSD which is between Costa
and Rotterdam so you know we
we've got like another

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Like another 20 minutes to run
or so and Dutch mill calls me up
and says okay

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We have an unidentified aircraft
flying at your

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Altitude we were at that point
it was still good weather

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So we were about 20 300 feet

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It says they're not on frequency

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I do not know what their
intentions are and they're
coming at your 12 o'clock

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That means straight on the nose
and he was flying apparently to
about 2000 feet

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So

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First thing you say is right I
got you

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We're on a sharp lookout and
believe me you're then on a very
sharp lookout and

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I actually even said you know
what I'm gonna I'm going to
descend

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What do we I think now he was it
we're both at 2300 feet so I'm
gonna say the 2000 feet just to
give a little bit of margin
there

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Just just in case and any on
there he was all of a sudden we
saw him

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He wasn't quite at 12 o'clock
who is at 11 o'clock but he was
coming our way and

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He was at that point a little
bit higher than we were now we
were just under the under the
cloud ceiling

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Remember I told you it was
around 2000 feet

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So yeah, actually it was
probably two that two and a half
thousand feet at that point

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But we're going north and so the
ceiling is starting to drop

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So we call that in we say hey,
you know Dutch mill we're visual
on him and at that point

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The air traffic control marks it
off as list. Okay, they can see
him. It's done no problem

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And remember he's on the on the
11 o'clock side so that's on and
I'm left left seat of the
airplane so

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He was just off to the left

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And

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We're flying along and we're
getting set up for rotted in
because we knew the ceiling was
gonna be much lower

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We had to hit all the reporting
points. It's a real airport, you
know, it's not something we just
kind of fly in join and land

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And this is a other aircraft,
which

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It was a low wing it was a small
low wing so I the pipe are
probably it went up into the
clouds

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And while I'm dialing up the
other frequency and this is just
the matter of maybe 30 seconds

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Maybe 45 seconds. Well, I'm
dialing up the other frequency.
Thank God Dan has eyes open

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And he's this is kind of the
agreement. You know you never
are both looking at the same
thing in the cockpit at the same
time

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Certainly not more than for just
a few seconds because you're
going so fast and shit happens
so fast and all of a sudden

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Dan says

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Cricky he's turning and what it
happened was this guy

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Never saw us because there was
no way for anyone to tell him
that we were in his area and he
came

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Back down from the clouds. I
guess that he got kind of
freaked out or whatever you want
to get out of the clouds

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Also now he's down exactly at
our level

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He's so close and he's turning
left right into us. I could
almost read his registration and
so you know

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Simultaneously we're both like
yanking to the right down with
the nose and you know

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I literally could see this guy's
face

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As he passed over us

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And the reason why I didn't see
him was because the map had
obscured that part of my
peripheral

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Vision and that was really
really stupid and I'm very happy
that Captain Dan was there

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But we both literally sat there
for like 20 seconds just looking
at each other going

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Dude

38:51.860 --> 38:53.860
That could have been a real day
record

38:54.740 --> 38:57.860
Of course Dan is like oh that
could have given us a headache

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Yeah, so you make light of it
and you make jokes about it but

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Between us there was a huge
understanding that we had been
very fortunate in

39:08.900 --> 39:10.900
You know the past couple of
minutes

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And it was just a big big
learning lesson for me
tremendous and and I've broken
the the stupid map habit

39:18.900 --> 39:23.940
Let me tell you anyone who's a
pilot will know exactly what I'm
talking about and you might even
do it yourself sometimes

39:25.700 --> 39:27.700
So I'm very thankful

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For having Captain Dan a long
for the ride and you know once
again have realized that

39:34.340 --> 39:40.980
The book of aviation you just
don't finish it. It's a it's a
book about 15 feet high and
every single time you go and fly

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You learn something new

39:43.380 --> 39:47.300
So that anyway, so we landed
safely and everything was great

39:48.100 --> 39:53.620
It was kind of it was still kind
of tricky figuring out exactly
where we are and just remember
just using the instruments

39:53.700 --> 39:59.220
Trying to find these reporting
points and reporting points are
usually a spot in the road or a
gas station that you can see

39:59.620 --> 40:04.340
But if you're not familiar with
it if there's you know traffic
in the area if you're doing all
kinds of stuff

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You're flying at instruments.
It's hard to identify stuff

40:07.060 --> 40:10.100
So you really got to stay
focused and they're not you know
they don't have beacons

40:10.420 --> 40:13.620
You have to figure out okay,
this reporting port a point is
this far from this beacon

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It's on this radio so it means
that it's kind of over there and
you can really do this quite
well and and it worked out

40:19.300 --> 40:22.500
You know it was great and we
landed one off to see my mom

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It was really cool because my
sister was there Tiffany with
her son Julius who's almost
seven. I haven't seen him in

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Boy I haven't seen him in almost
half a year and my sister who
recently

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Separated from her husband
recently about a year ago

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She has a great new boyfriend
who I know

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Professionally from his writer
and it was cool. Yeah, and
Christina and Patricia had
bought a wig from my mom and

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She was so happy because you
know going through all this
cancer crash

40:53.140 --> 40:57.780
That's really the bummer. You
know it's just you you you you
feel shitty on the inside

40:57.780 --> 41:02.340
But all that carries over to the
outside and she's lost a lot of
weight and and of course

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Because of the chemo and
radiation. She's lost most of
her hair and she was so happy.
She was so happy to have

41:09.700 --> 41:16.660
You know just to look her and it
went and Patricia is really good
at this. You know, she's she
really understands

41:17.620 --> 41:23.380
Hair and makeup as we've
discussed many times and it was
perfect. She was so happy and
and you know

41:23.380 --> 41:29.060
It was it was emotional. It
really was but it was great and
we hung out for for a couple
hours and it was just fun

41:29.060 --> 41:31.060
You know we didn't talk about

41:31.060 --> 41:35.860
About cancer and treatments and
crap. We just had fun and joked
and laughed and my mom was
really

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Compared to last week. She was
ten times as energetic of course
a lot of that is due to

41:42.500 --> 41:47.300
The pretneys on that that
they're giving her right now
because she has to strengthen up
a bit in case

41:47.300 --> 41:51.780
They need to do more treatments.
She really they couldn't treat
her now. They just they she has
to have more strength

41:52.420 --> 41:56.980
But she's been eating much more
and and she's really really
fighting it and I can see it,
you know

41:56.980 --> 42:02.100
And that's that's the most
important thing and and I think
this was probably the first
visit

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Where we didn't have to talk
about all that crap no one felt
like talking about it

42:05.860 --> 42:10.340
Just you know talk about fun and
going place isn't doing things
and she's not giving up man

42:10.500 --> 42:15.620
That's that's what was so
beautiful about about the day
and then went back

42:17.940 --> 42:19.940
I'll tell you there's nothing
cooler

42:20.500 --> 42:25.540
For for for someone who's so
nuts about aviation and just the
whole concept of a flying car

42:26.340 --> 42:30.980
And you know you're you're
talking to all these people
along the way and then you have
pharaohs and

42:30.980 --> 42:33.780
Sight as we're coming in I call
up pharaohs on the radio

42:34.180 --> 42:40.100
You know November 277 Delta
Shara is is joining downwind and
and then on the radio

42:40.660 --> 42:42.660
Hi Adam welcome home

42:43.060 --> 42:45.060
Wow, you know

42:45.300 --> 42:47.300
Hi Adam welcome home

42:47.300 --> 42:51.220
No traffic in circuit come on in
and park her at your hangar and
that was

42:52.900 --> 42:54.900
It was uh, it was nice

42:56.180 --> 42:57.540
Uh

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And I got some feedback about my
flight as well. I think this is
the one home

43:00.900 --> 43:03.700
I Adam it's Mike from the 6620
West kid cast

43:04.020 --> 43:06.500
Hey after listening to Charlie
number 370

43:06.580 --> 43:10.340
I also noticed that the air
traffic controller sounded just
like Roger Smalls

43:10.980 --> 43:15.620
So I took that clip. I did a
little audio clean up to it and
now if you listen to it

43:15.620 --> 43:18.580
I think it's conclusive here
listen to this

43:20.020 --> 43:22.420
Want to call up and yeah get us
out

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Transformation good morning
November 277 Delta Shara request
radio check and then taxi to a
board for the

43:28.500 --> 43:30.500
Aquarium

43:32.500 --> 43:34.500
Roger

43:37.460 --> 43:39.460
It's how the proper one

43:43.700 --> 43:45.860
We're going for the

43:45.860 --> 43:48.980
Oh and one other thing Adam last
year

43:48.980 --> 43:55.380
I sent you an audio comment in a
phony Italian accent begging the
pod father to let us into pod
show

43:56.020 --> 44:00.660
You told me that after the new
year you would make me an offer
I couldn't refuse

44:01.700 --> 44:02.740
Well

44:02.740 --> 44:06.260
Coupledy to the copy. I hope
that offers still stands

44:06.820 --> 44:14.100
I would love to be invited to
pod show and just as an
observation I think pod show
could use more family oriented
programming

44:14.660 --> 44:21.140
You know we get lots of feedback
from our listeners that thank us
for doing a podcast that they
can listen to with their kids in
the room

44:21.700 --> 44:25.700
We're proud to be a hundred
percent clean and we're a
hundred percent kid friendly

44:26.100 --> 44:31.140
Our show isn't really intended
for kids. It's more for adults
who have kids and are looking
for a

44:31.140 --> 44:36.900
Kindred spirit to share
experiences with if any of your
listeners are looking for this
type of a podcast

44:37.380 --> 44:40.420
Where the 66-20 West kid cast at

44:40.420 --> 44:53.140
W-w-w dot 66-20 West dot calm. I
don't even get it. She's senior.
Okay. Yeah, I'll make good on my
promise. Don't you worry

44:53.140 --> 44:58.420
I said after the new year, right
and and I said after this new
year and we're still after the
new year

44:58.500 --> 45:01.060
We're getting there very
closely. The dev cast is rocking

45:03.140 --> 45:08.740
Now it's gonna be pretty busy
for the next couple days since
we have Ron and KJ in in London
and we're doing meetings

45:08.740 --> 45:10.740
In fact, I got to get out of
here ASAP

45:11.700 --> 45:14.100
For our for our after new
meetings in London

45:14.420 --> 45:20.020
But yeah, we're getting there
dev cast is for the developers
who are getting gold and tickets
and being brought in

45:21.060 --> 45:23.460
Everyone's gonna get in who
signs up for that if you're
interested

45:24.100 --> 45:30.740
You know you don't even have to
if it's just interested in the
development of it sign up at
devcast.podshow.com and

45:30.740 --> 45:35.860
Boy, you are so right. You know,
I really do have a feeling that
that may be Roger Smalls

45:36.580 --> 45:42.100
Is indeed the air traffic
controller at fair Oaks that
would make a lot of sense
wouldn't it

45:44.100 --> 45:46.100
And yesterday

45:46.500 --> 45:50.580
A hold on let me just do one
more one more aviation thing
because a lot of people had this
question

45:53.860 --> 46:03.620
Hey Adam Matthew evil here. I
got a question about Wednesdays
Charlie, you know the one that
you kind of did from the ground
and kind of did from midair

46:05.140 --> 46:10.500
You know, I deal with spaceship
parts up here on the UTF
Revolution. I've got myself a

46:11.060 --> 46:15.940
PMF drive got a bunch of droids
spending machines that need
repair that kind of stuff

46:17.300 --> 46:23.380
But I don't have any mags up
here. I have no idea what mags
are you kept talking about

46:23.460 --> 46:32.100
Mags what are mags? Are they
something that keeps the plane
from I don't know flipping over
or

46:32.740 --> 46:35.780
Transforming into a robot and I
I don't know

46:36.340 --> 46:39.460
Spark plugs those I understand
mags not a clue

46:40.340 --> 46:44.740
So yeah, could you fill me in on
that and by the way if you're
ever interested in

46:45.140 --> 46:51.380
Flying in something that goes a
little bit faster than mock two
feel free to join us up here on
the revolution

46:51.940 --> 46:57.860
By visiting www dot high orbit
podcast dot com will be glad to
have you any time

46:58.500 --> 47:00.500
Thanks no Matthew

47:00.740 --> 47:04.580
End of transmission. Thank you.
Yeah, a lot of people asked me
that and I realized it wasn't
too clear

47:04.980 --> 47:08.980
Mags is short for mag needos and
they are related to the spark
plugs

47:09.700 --> 47:12.340
It's kind of the same as an
alternator in your car actually

47:13.380 --> 47:17.540
Although we also have an
alternator, but that's for
different reasons, but just for
the concept, okay

47:17.780 --> 47:21.620
You have your battery and you
use your battery really only for
when your engine isn't running

47:21.620 --> 47:23.140
But when your engine's running

47:23.140 --> 47:26.020
Something's got to create the
spark and the spark plugs and

47:26.500 --> 47:30.340
In the aircraft we use mag
needos which are gyroscopic
devices

47:30.580 --> 47:36.180
So they are continuously turning
at high revolution and they
produce the electricity that
produces

47:36.580 --> 47:39.780
I'm simplifying it, but they
produce the electricity that
produces the spark

47:40.100 --> 47:44.420
So if you're mag needos and you
have two of them for obvious
reasons redundancy, but

47:45.380 --> 47:50.100
Excuse me one is really for the
for the left hand side and one
is for the right hand side and I
have six cylinders

47:50.900 --> 47:53.700
so one of them is responsible
for

47:55.460 --> 48:00.740
Actually, I don't know if that's
true if they're split up that
way we have two of them and if
and if one of them isn't working

48:00.740 --> 48:08.020
You don't fly because if the mag
needos stops working spark is no
longer delivered to the spark
plugs and you're going to have
an engine

48:08.020 --> 48:12.500
That's going to not run very
well in fact. It could run
horribly it could not give you
enough power

48:13.060 --> 48:15.060
to stay in the air. It could not
give you enough power

48:16.100 --> 48:20.500
To get you off the ground and of
course the critical part is
getting you off the ground
because once you're in the air

48:20.500 --> 48:23.860
If the engine quits well, that's
a whole different story. You can
glide down and find a spot to
land

48:24.740 --> 48:26.260
So

48:26.260 --> 48:30.180
So that's what you're always
checking for. You're making sure
these things are okay before you
take off

48:30.180 --> 48:34.820
And so we were getting what we
call a mag drop which means you
know the the RPMs drop

48:34.900 --> 48:37.140
Significantly when running just
on one

48:38.100 --> 48:39.780
Mag needo. Yeah, I guess so then
that's split up then

48:40.740 --> 48:45.860
And so that's why we went back
and if you have a broken mag,
you know, that's a real repair
job

48:45.860 --> 48:51.620
But the problem was is the spark
plug. So one spark plug was it
was getting the juice from the
mag

48:51.620 --> 48:56.820
But it wasn't sparking because
it was just completely busted
and so that's why the engine was
running roughly

48:56.820 --> 49:03.620
And it was only basically
running on five cylinders
instead of six so thanks a
Matthew for questioning that and
let me clear it up for you

49:10.020 --> 49:12.020
Mag bar

49:12.020 --> 49:16.740
Rare celebrity interview Cindy
use it magpah.com

49:19.380 --> 49:21.620
You won't want the engine in
connection

49:24.020 --> 49:28.500
Makes you a con. Makes you a con
man. Hey, this is Jay Dolly
coming up with the next mad pod

49:28.500 --> 49:30.500
You remember Tommy chong from
Cheechen chong

49:31.300 --> 49:37.860
Sister Mary elephant coming up
mad pod. Hey Tommy. Hello. I is
Tommy there. Yeah, it's vegan

49:37.940 --> 49:39.620
Tommy. It's shadow steel. How
are you?

49:40.660 --> 49:43.620
Hey, good. How are you? I'm
good. So are you ready for our
interview?

49:44.900 --> 49:49.460
Yeah, I'm in the car, but yeah.
Tommy is impossible to use
marijuana too much

49:50.660 --> 49:54.740
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
You can get too much of anything

49:55.540 --> 50:00.980
You can do too much water, you
know, it's called grounding if
you use pot. You'll end up like
Cheechen chong

50:05.700 --> 50:07.060
Exactly

50:07.060 --> 50:09.060
I mean look at Cheechen

50:09.140 --> 50:11.140
Exactly

50:11.140 --> 50:13.140
Get media mad pod

50:14.340 --> 50:16.340
mad pod.com

50:17.140 --> 50:19.140
Jay Dolly kicking it again

50:20.580 --> 50:28.180
We missed a chong. Yeah,
excellent. You should listen to
that. It's it's a great
interview very cool to to hear
him on on that show

50:30.180 --> 50:33.780
Kind of a hero of mine. I have
to say in a way. Remember we all
used to go to the theater

50:33.860 --> 50:35.860
Remember the up and smoke album

50:36.180 --> 50:42.740
We've been talking about album
covers. That was definitely one
of my favorite double albums
because you fold it open this
double album cover and

50:43.140 --> 50:47.140
Inside of it was a huge rolling
paper and

50:47.780 --> 50:51.300
Just about everybody. I knew
bought this thing and our new
year's Eve

50:51.780 --> 50:57.460
You know, we we all would pool
our money and we'd fill this
filled this up with herb and
smoke it and it was just

50:58.180 --> 51:03.460
It was a Cheechen chong joint is
what it was. Remember those days
and of course they instructed
you to clean out

51:03.460 --> 51:06.180
your seeds while using the
double album as well

51:09.060 --> 51:15.780
But man, you know what I'd like
to hear from from listeners and
yeah podcasts are listeners too,
but

51:16.260 --> 51:18.740
What would you rather have would
you rather have five

51:19.300 --> 51:26.980
shorter shows during the week or
would you be okay with three
longer shows or do you want
three long shows or we want more
short shows

51:27.540 --> 51:32.500
Let me know you know I don't
know your habits your listening
habits. There's no way from me
to understand

51:32.820 --> 51:34.340
just from the data that we have

51:35.620 --> 51:38.340
What you're what you're into you
know, do you use it on your
commute?

51:39.380 --> 51:43.140
Personally, I think that I mean
it wouldn't make much difference
in my listenership. I don't
think

51:44.340 --> 51:46.340
if I

51:46.340 --> 51:51.700
Probably increase if I did three
longer shows, but I may be
wrong, you know

51:52.100 --> 51:54.340
So what if the show was an hour
and a half is that too long?

51:55.380 --> 51:57.700
For me that's often a barrier
when I look at the time

51:58.740 --> 52:01.460
Of course, I don't have a
commute, right, but I look at
the time

52:01.940 --> 52:06.340
On a podcast before I play and
say, well man, it's quite a
commitment. I'm gonna spend an
hour and a half listening to
this

52:07.780 --> 52:09.780
But of course, you don't have to

52:10.180 --> 52:14.340
You can you can turn it off and
check in the next time, but give
me some feedback on that

52:14.340 --> 52:18.420
I'd really like to know what
what you're thinking and at the
same time I'd like to welcome

52:18.980 --> 52:24.900
If I hadn't done that again, I
thought I had but I'd like to
welcome the Alaska Pod Show to
the Pod Show family

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Adam Curry this is Scott with
the Alaska Pod Show. Hey, I want
to thank you very much for
inviting the Alaska

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Pod Show into the Pod Show
network and it's great to be
part of the family. I'm really
excited for the things ahead

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And well, you know, I tried to
record this earlier and this is
how it went

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Adam this has got up here in
Alaska

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I want to thank you for inviting
me on the network at the same
time. I wanted to share some
bearers

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And I'm witnessing the just
waking up after a long winter's
nap

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This is really

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Adam I gotta go

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They've seen me man. I gotta go.
Okay, come back

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Get on over to the

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And on over the website Alaska
Pod Show.com

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Get away

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Is you can see it in turn out
like I hope but I want to thank
everybody over at Pod Show at
the network for making it
possible for me to do

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What I love to do which is
podcasting and sharing Alaska
with everybody

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Thanks a lot take care of
yourself from Anchorage, Alaska.
This is Scott Sloan

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Okay, Scott very cool dude.
Welcome

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Was good talking to you on the
phone a couple weeks or a go and
I'm glad we were able to work
everything out

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That you now part of the family
very proud to have you and I
can't wait to get back up to a

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To Alaska I've been there once I
was there for an overnight

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I forget the name of the club.
It was

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It wasn't it I'm pretty sure it
was an anchorage

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And it was just you know this
was the the old MTV days when I
still also had my countdown show
the top 30 hit list

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Which aired on the radio station
on top 40 station there, which I
don't recall either

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But I do remember one thing
beautiful women up there just
beautiful women unbelievable

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maybe you know

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Maybe my brain is just too fuzzy
or maybe I'm too old and I think
anything this young is beautiful

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But I really recall them as
being extremely pretty

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Now yesterday, yes, we're not
even done with the weekend

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Patricia and I got all duffied
up and we hopped on the train
from Gilford around was it
around noon and

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Bobbed up to London where Ron
was staying in Marta and Chris
Jacob

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He is just coming back from his
own vacation, but you know as I
said we've got stuff in the city
this week

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We're gonna see if we can get
some business going in the UK
and

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The first item on the agenda was
to go to the draft and darts at
the brick layers arms in

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W1s that's West London to meet
up with a whole bunch of UK
podcasters and we've made this
purposely very very low key

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Whole bunch of people helped out

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Neil Dixon Adrian Pegg

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I mean, there's too many people
to mention who contributed to
setting this up and choosing the
right place and getting it all
in order

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And so we got there a little
after three o'clock and they're
already at least

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Man the must have been at least
15 20 people there already we
had a nice place the brick
layers arms upstairs

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Although it was very warm very
smokey and the Patricia and
Marta came with us and and that
was cool because I really wanted
to

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They had plans that were gonna
go shopping and that they were
gonna go to herids and Harvey
next, you know

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By doing all been in New York,
baby, and then go back to Harvey
next for lunch

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Harvey Nichols is the place to
go have tea or lunch or whatever

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But they stayed for probably a
good 30 45 minutes and

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And they had a lot of fun
meeting people and Patricia said
to me

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Private later she said you know
everyone had heard everything
they knew they said oh, I love
that when you did this

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I love that when you did that
and I said you you don't believe
me do you that people love
hearing you on the show

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You make the show fantastically
when you come on the show

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So thank you very much for
telling her that because I think
that that will motivate her and
make her understand

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How important it is to our
future

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to come on to the show

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And

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There were tons of t-shirts and
there's pictures all over the
place and maybe tonight when I
I'm staying in the city tonight

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So my hotel I'll put some of
them up online

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There were

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People had t-shirts on that said
Roger Smalls is the daddy

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And I actually I point blank
asked a couple people are you
Roger Smalls and the answer
usually came so

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Quickly and honestly that I'm
sure that he indeed was not
there

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But it was so cool to put

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Faces to names

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To podcasts people had traveled
some of them several hundred
miles. I'm sorry

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I've got a problem with my left
ear. I have a headphone ear

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Which is not fun. It's like your
ear gets really irritated

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I've had too many headphones on
between flying and doing the
show. It's had a readjust for a
second gets all itchy

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Gosh, I don't even know where to
start. Okay. Let's start with
the beer

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I had a beer in a half and I was
like

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I think I better stop now. I
can't handle it. I can't drink.
I'm just I'm I suck at drinking.
I'm such a lightweight

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And our British colleagues
clearly had less less issue with
that and it was really fun

57:26.260 --> 57:28.260
It was it was just great

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Hearing everyone. Yeah, it's so
funny when

57:31.860 --> 57:37.380
If you've ever met someone who
you've seen on television or
heard on the radio many many
years and if you've been to a
podcast and meet up

57:37.380 --> 57:39.620
You know exactly what I'm
talking about but then you hear
someone

57:40.580 --> 57:45.540
And you turn around and you go I
know that voice because your
brain just starts firing and
recognizing and

57:47.620 --> 57:49.620
It was very cool

57:50.100 --> 57:56.740
Very very cool not just from a
podcast or a podcast
perspective, but to meet up with
with Brits who

57:57.780 --> 58:02.820
New about me new somewhat about
my life and who I am and could
leave all of there

58:04.020 --> 58:08.500
Not not that everyone has that
but I think could leave any
prejudice or preconceived
notions

58:08.580 --> 58:14.980
They may have about Americans
kind of you know behind and I
was able to ask things about
British culture and about

58:15.140 --> 58:20.500
Schools and about that thoughts
about what the BBC's doing but
also just in general about

58:21.300 --> 58:25.060
Life and newspapers and gossip
and and really the culture of

58:25.860 --> 58:31.860
Of the UK and it was very very
life enriching for me and the
cool thing was of course that
after everyone had about three
or four drinks

58:32.500 --> 58:33.940
Everyone's microphone came out

58:34.180 --> 58:41.220
It was like a sex party, you
know everyone whips it out and
and I did the several different
chats with some with some folks

58:41.220 --> 58:44.980
You'll be able to listen that if
you got a brickcaster dot com,
that's where there's a thread
and

58:45.380 --> 58:48.580
Some links to photos and you can
see some of the cool t-shirts
and

58:49.540 --> 58:53.220
And everyone had a you know a
nice sticker badge, you know, hi

58:53.220 --> 58:56.580
I'm so and so in the name of the
podcast and I made a lot of
friends

58:56.580 --> 58:59.460
I really did and I enjoyed it
immensely and I appreciate

59:00.420 --> 59:05.460
Everyone's input and thoughts
and we had some very good
discussions. I had one even
outside

59:05.460 --> 59:11.300
We were all standing around and
talking about commercial versus
non-commercial and it was it was
good

59:11.300 --> 59:16.820
It was good. It was good asked
conversation. I'm very
appreciative of the the UK
podcast and community

59:17.460 --> 59:22.180
And I hope that they can also
take to heart what I said
earlier in this show is let's
make sure that we

59:24.100 --> 59:29.060
Welcome the listeners in as well
people who don't want a podcast
because I still think that we're

59:29.140 --> 59:32.580
In a very close circle. I don't
think anyone can really disagree
with that

59:33.060 --> 59:38.420
And I want to get them in more
and we have to you know, I'll
make it my mission to give the
audience better tools to

59:38.660 --> 59:43.300
Communicate back to us which is
not necessarily writing
something is not necessarily

59:44.340 --> 59:50.020
Recording something there are
other ways that you can
participate in in in in in a
program

59:50.660 --> 59:55.700
I'll make that my mission and
and let's try and work on that
and we have a great opportunity
here

59:56.180 --> 01:00:01.220
Really to lead the way in maybe
oh, let's hey, let's call it
podcasting two point out

01:00:01.780 --> 01:00:06.580
No, we won't because the
training wheels are are on here
too. We've really got to figure
out

01:00:06.980 --> 01:00:11.140
How to how to do better with
that and I had some awesome
conversation

01:00:13.060 --> 01:00:18.500
With a number of people about
second life now if you have not
heard this show before

01:00:19.060 --> 01:00:21.300
Then you haven't heard my
enthusiasm for this

01:00:22.020 --> 01:00:24.020
Well, you can call it a game

01:00:25.140 --> 01:00:30.180
It would certainly be and they
had they do a very smart thing.
I think they segregate everyone
under 16

01:00:32.180 --> 01:00:35.460
Is in a different area so it's
really an an adult game

01:00:36.020 --> 01:00:43.220
Not necessarily adult because of
sexual content, but just adult
because it's adults who are in
there doing adult things and

01:00:44.020 --> 01:00:46.020
and

01:00:46.580 --> 01:00:49.780
People this is crack. This is
crack for your brain. I'm so in
fact

01:00:50.420 --> 01:00:55.060
If I could retire right now and
all I would do during the day is

01:00:55.700 --> 01:01:02.020
Build my second life and create
the world there that I want to
create. I would be extremely
happy

01:01:02.740 --> 01:01:09.700
I would be a very very happy guy
and that's how into this I am
because this is something about
the visualization of

01:01:10.660 --> 01:01:16.980
Communication so not just the
it's basically it's a chat
system, you know, you're
chatting with people and you're
I aming with people

01:01:17.380 --> 01:01:25.060
But you can actually make
gestures and give people stuff
and invite them places and go
places and discover things and
learn about other people

01:01:25.060 --> 01:01:28.100
And you can tell a lot about a
person just looking from the
house that he's built there

01:01:29.540 --> 01:01:31.540
I got some feedback on it too.
Let me

01:01:32.340 --> 01:01:34.340
First of all, I was incorrect
the other day

01:01:35.060 --> 01:01:37.060
When I compared this to

01:01:37.060 --> 01:01:38.100
Neil Stephenson's

01:01:38.100 --> 01:01:46.100
Metaverse I incorrectly called
the book Metaverse. Hey Adam.
This is JC Hutchins given you a
shout out from South Florida
United States. How's it going?

01:01:46.660 --> 01:01:48.900
In a recent episode of the daily
source code

01:01:48.900 --> 01:01:54.740
You were talking about a video
game called second life and how
I reminded you of a Neil
Stephenson novel called

01:01:55.060 --> 01:01:56.100
Metaverse

01:01:56.100 --> 01:02:01.140
You're absolutely right the
video game is a lot like the
universe that Stephenson was
creating in that book

01:02:01.700 --> 01:02:06.820
But the name of this sci-fi
classic isn't Metaverse. I'm
sorry to say it's snowcrash

01:02:07.780 --> 01:02:12.340
The novel is a modern day
classic and it's pretty
prophetic when you think about
online

01:02:12.340 --> 01:02:14.500
Communities and how we talk to
each other these days

01:02:15.460 --> 01:02:19.540
Since you say that you've read
snowcrash, I figured hey he
might be a science fiction fan

01:02:20.260 --> 01:02:24.740
I've written a science fiction
podcast novel called seven son
book one descent

01:02:25.460 --> 01:02:29.620
And since I've got your
attention here and God willing
the attention of all of your
listeners

01:02:29.860 --> 01:02:34.260
I'd really appreciate it if you
played the new promo for my
novel as far as I know

01:02:34.260 --> 01:02:37.300
You'll be the first podcast to
play it so this will be a world
premiere

01:02:37.780 --> 01:02:44.580
Thanks, Adam. I really
appreciate it keep up the great
work keep reading great science
fiction novels and check out
seven son in your spare time

01:02:45.380 --> 01:02:50.500
Okay, I think the I think the
promo is coming up right after
this. Yeah, it is snowcrash and
in fact

01:02:50.500 --> 01:02:56.740
I was such a fan of this book
and the the lead character in it
is a guy called hero

01:02:56.820 --> 01:03:01.300
And it's exactly the same as
second life except you you jack
into the terminal through a

01:03:02.660 --> 01:03:06.900
Virtual reality display the
phone is ringing somewhere in
the house

01:03:07.700 --> 01:03:12.180
So you jack into it by putting
on goggles and it's not much
different. I think

01:03:13.220 --> 01:03:18.020
And also virtual reality glob so
if you move your arm then it
would move within this virtual
world

01:03:18.020 --> 01:03:23.380
I was so nuts about it. I
actually registered a metaverse
dot com which I don't own
anymore

01:03:23.460 --> 01:03:27.540
I think that that was a part of
the is there no one picking up
this phone?

01:03:28.980 --> 01:03:34.740
I think that was actually a part
of the sale when we sold our
company the metaverse dot com
domain name was a part of it

01:03:34.740 --> 01:03:39.060
But we 12 years ago Ron and I
had set this thing up not
actually I set it up with

01:03:40.420 --> 01:03:42.420
Chris Jacob and his brother Carl
and

01:03:43.220 --> 01:03:48.260
Not long after that, you know
when we discovered that there
was no way we're gonna ever
gonna be able to make money with
creating content

01:03:48.820 --> 01:03:52.900
And there was a lot of cool
stuff we had in there was it was
heavily entertainment music base

01:03:52.980 --> 01:03:58.900
But all independent stuff and
you can still find a lot of that
on the way back machine look at
just look up

01:03:58.900 --> 01:04:00.900
Metaverse dot com on the way
back machine

01:04:01.300 --> 01:04:03.300
which is at archive.org

01:04:03.300 --> 01:04:05.300
and

01:04:05.940 --> 01:04:07.940
You know the second life thing
is

01:04:08.180 --> 01:04:15.140
It's just it's just like it. It
is exactly exactly the book. Let
me continue now with this guys
promo because I like this
feedback

01:04:18.500 --> 01:04:20.900
The President of the United
States is dead

01:04:21.300 --> 01:04:25.940
He was murdered in the morning
sunlight by a four-year old boy

01:04:27.940 --> 01:04:36.740
Those are the opening words of
7th son book one dissent the
podcast novel written by JC
Hutchins and it doesn't let up
from there

01:04:38.180 --> 01:04:43.220
Join the Legion of 7th son fans
who are already following the
story of 7 human clones

01:04:43.780 --> 01:04:50.420
John father Thomas kill right
2.0 and the others as they hunt
down the man behind the
president's murder

01:04:50.980 --> 01:04:54.340
The man they were cloned from
code named John alphas

01:04:55.540 --> 01:05:02.180
David Moldauer critic for the
dragon page.com hails 7th son as
a taught tense sci-fi thriller

01:05:02.740 --> 01:05:08.580
Gary P. Dilly Leeland says I
definitely recommend it to
anybody out there who's a sci-fi
lover

01:05:09.460 --> 01:05:12.740
Even Scott Sigler author of
earth core and infection says

01:05:13.380 --> 01:05:19.700
7th son's opening episode is the
shock and awe of audio books the
first five minutes will have you
hooked

01:05:20.980 --> 01:05:23.460
Subscribe to the party of book
everyone's talking about

01:05:24.020 --> 01:05:29.620
Join the dissent find 7th son at
jc Hutchins.net and at
pottyobooks.com

01:05:32.580 --> 01:05:34.580
Right on

01:05:34.580 --> 01:05:40.100
It's true the first five minutes
does grip you and I'm of I'm
becoming a fan of this type of
podcast and the

01:05:40.100 --> 01:05:45.220
Pottyobooks which I think is a
good name too because actually
I'm a big fan of audio books
people have

01:05:45.220 --> 01:05:52.260
listened to the source code for
a long time know that I've
promoted audio books and I had
at one point

01:05:52.260 --> 01:05:58.740
I purchased Snowcrash by Neil
Stephenson which I think it's
it's the unabridged version so
it's seven hours

01:05:59.380 --> 01:06:05.060
And but mostly it's it's reading
and doesn't have the effects in
it and stuff and that's what I
like about the

01:06:05.060 --> 01:06:11.380
Pottyobooks it's taking it one
step further somewhere in
between the radio drama and the
audio book and it's

01:06:11.460 --> 01:06:16.500
Exciting and and you could make
these productions extremely
intricate we're coming out with
their own you know

01:06:16.500 --> 01:06:22.100
Pottyobooks it's not science
fiction, but it's going to well
you could deem a science fiction
I guess

01:06:23.460 --> 01:06:26.340
It's going to be called shadow
falls and you should look for
that

01:06:27.060 --> 01:06:33.620
First or second week of May I
believe and and and I think
there's we've actually talked
about this many times

01:06:33.620 --> 01:06:36.980
Yeah, we've forgotten how much
we can do with audio we really
have

01:06:37.940 --> 01:06:42.180
Back the second life because I'm
just so jazzed about this, you
know, Eric Rice

01:06:42.980 --> 01:06:46.820
It's also doing quite a bit and
I haven't explored

01:06:48.020 --> 01:06:50.740
His area of of second life and
haven't

01:06:51.300 --> 01:06:56.340
Haven't done any any
investigation into it yet, but I
know that I guess he bought the
the record

01:06:56.340 --> 01:07:04.100
There was a record label that
had been created there and he
bought that and he set up
podcast listening stations and
he's he's truly and clearly

01:07:04.420 --> 01:07:05.780
Into this stuff

01:07:05.780 --> 01:07:11.540
So I'm gonna see what he's up to
here's here's my plan and by the
way, I'm really still learning

01:07:12.100 --> 01:07:17.300
Okay, now the good news is or
for me at least is and and this
stuff costs money

01:07:17.300 --> 01:07:19.700
You know this is not free you
pay a subscription fee

01:07:19.940 --> 01:07:23.860
Particularly if you buy land the
larger the land you more the
more you got to pay per month

01:07:23.860 --> 01:07:27.620
And the business model around
this thing is just outrageously
smart

01:07:28.580 --> 01:07:33.540
But you can also trade amongst
each other you can sell things
people can give you money

01:07:33.860 --> 01:07:35.540
And once you put down your
credit card

01:07:35.540 --> 01:07:40.260
You know if you want to buy
something you don't have enough
money is very simple a pops
little dialogue box. Oh, you
know

01:07:40.260 --> 01:07:44.340
You need some more cash you want
to buy that and you just go and
it automatically you know

01:07:44.340 --> 01:07:48.820
You hear the coins drop and then
you've got your cash and you can
buy something and you can buy
anything you want

01:07:49.700 --> 01:07:51.700
And not being a designer

01:07:51.700 --> 01:07:54.100
I can when I see how something
works

01:07:54.100 --> 01:07:59.780
I can edit it and figure it out
and and all these objects have
scripts and I'm not really a
computer programmer

01:07:59.860 --> 01:08:06.340
But I can figure out just by
reading this it's English mostly
I can figure out what the script
is doing and I know how to
modify stuff

01:08:06.340 --> 01:08:12.980
When I'm really taking my time
building my second life and and
something that really surprised
me

01:08:12.980 --> 01:08:14.980
You know, yeah people

01:08:14.980 --> 01:08:20.180
No my my second life name which
is Adam Newman and that's
N-E-U-M-A-N

01:08:22.500 --> 01:08:24.500
Newman

01:08:24.820 --> 01:08:28.340
They're able to find me instant
message me, but they don't
really know where

01:08:29.300 --> 01:08:34.260
My place is located is I've kind
of chosen to remote area and a
and a typical dwelling

01:08:34.820 --> 01:08:40.740
I'm building a castle
essentially why purchase the
castle I purchase the land and
what I'm doing now is is

01:08:40.740 --> 01:08:46.340
You know figuring out what I
want to put in my in my world
and all of a sudden a couple
days ago

01:08:46.340 --> 01:08:48.340
There's like a guy in my castle

01:08:48.820 --> 01:08:54.260
Hey, Adam this is Jeff Hines
with the Friday night dance
party podcast

01:08:54.980 --> 01:09:03.620
aka Jeff Cragman your second
life stalker. Hey, I was just
looking for a prime piece of
real estate and

01:09:03.620 --> 01:09:08.580
Loan behold I end up on your
front door step. What was I
supposed to do?

01:09:09.620 --> 01:09:13.300
Thanks for the martini, but were
you gonna go post it on my ass?

01:09:14.340 --> 01:09:19.460
Maybe when I get my castle built
you can come on over for Friday
night dance party

01:09:19.620 --> 01:09:22.580
But until then just listen to
the podcast

01:09:23.140 --> 01:09:26.980
That's Friday night dance party.
Oh, and PS

01:09:28.260 --> 01:09:30.260
You're drool when you sleep

01:09:31.540 --> 01:09:40.180
I've always wondered about that
when I'm logged off and
sometimes I guess you're avatar
can sometimes hang there or
something like that and you
don't really go away

01:09:40.580 --> 01:09:42.580
Now I figured out how to lock up
the castle

01:09:42.580 --> 01:09:47.220
That's the good news, but I
guess you could still teleport
in and you can't I don't know
but it doesn't really matter

01:09:47.380 --> 01:09:52.500
But here's the plan for me the
plan is I want to make this
thing completely rocking

01:09:53.060 --> 01:09:59.140
I want to set it up so that you
know, and I'm gonna have a big
ass party at the in and around
the castle when I'm ready for
you guys

01:09:59.140 --> 01:10:05.780
And and hopefully I'll be well
enough burst in all of the the
cool things that it really will
feel like a party

01:10:05.780 --> 01:10:11.060
And I know that we can do this
if this works this shit really
does work. I'm extremely excited

01:10:11.860 --> 01:10:15.140
now the conversation I had
yesterday with with a number of
people including a

01:10:16.420 --> 01:10:18.420
Joe twist

01:10:18.580 --> 01:10:20.580
Who was a castle's partner and

01:10:21.380 --> 01:10:24.820
So she's heavily into podcasting
and she's now working for a

01:10:25.540 --> 01:10:29.620
I think it's an NGO. It's
certainly a non-profit and she's
trying to

01:10:30.340 --> 01:10:35.700
Really integrate all of these
new technologies into well
working with a British
government actually

01:10:36.420 --> 01:10:40.180
And she's doing some I think
tremendously important things
and you know

01:10:40.180 --> 01:10:43.860
She's all over second life as
this castle and a lot of people

01:10:44.260 --> 01:10:48.740
Either after hearing this show
or having heard about it
somewhere else have have joined
in the fun

01:10:49.540 --> 01:10:52.900
Now I have a question for you
all because at the end of the
day

01:10:53.860 --> 01:10:57.220
And I'm gonna be the guy who's
gonna say it because I don't
care

01:10:57.780 --> 01:11:00.740
I say everything apparently on
this show at the end of the day

01:11:01.140 --> 01:11:05.620
You know you you hook up with
someone you talk to him you
learn a little bit about second
life, but

01:11:06.260 --> 01:11:12.740
Isn't it the fact that just
about every single person who's
on second life at some point or
another

01:11:13.940 --> 01:11:20.500
Has been hanging out with
someone and then you click on
the blue ball you jump on it
that person clicks on a pinker
of blue ball

01:11:20.500 --> 01:11:22.500
They jump on it and you have
cyber sex

01:11:23.860 --> 01:11:28.340
Come on you got to be honest.
I'm I've totally totally it look

01:11:29.060 --> 01:11:32.660
There are places where you can
go by genitalia you can buy
actions

01:11:33.460 --> 01:11:37.700
You can buy positions you can
buy beds that have all these
things built into it a

01:11:38.180 --> 01:11:45.060
Big part of what is happening in
second life is cyber sex, but
it's nothing and I've said
before that

01:11:45.060 --> 01:11:50.420
I've always paid attention to
what this sex and the porn
industry has been doing because
they're always innovators in

01:11:50.660 --> 01:11:52.260
Technology

01:11:52.260 --> 01:11:55.380
I've never like the whole webcam
thing that's you know

01:11:55.380 --> 01:12:00.820
I don't want to see anyone
having cyber sex and I don't
want anyone to see me quite
honestly

01:12:01.700 --> 01:12:06.900
You know, I think there's better
porn out there visually, but
this is something wow

01:12:07.380 --> 01:12:14.500
You know once again wrote we're
reminded or I'm reminded that
the brain is the most powerful
and most active sexual

01:12:14.500 --> 01:12:18.980
Oregon anyone has and and this
stuff is nuts

01:12:20.260 --> 01:12:23.380
It's it's fascinating
fascinating

01:12:24.420 --> 01:12:31.140
You can have any kind of sex you
want anything you can think of
and this real people on the
other end and and

01:12:31.940 --> 01:12:36.020
It's I'm not quite sure how to
categorize it. I will do some
more investigation for you

01:12:36.900 --> 01:12:38.900
But think about what you can do

01:12:41.700 --> 01:12:43.700
You can do an entire

01:12:44.420 --> 01:12:46.420
You could do pretty women

01:12:46.420 --> 01:12:48.420
There's lots of call girls in
second life

01:12:48.980 --> 01:12:53.060
You know you might have a
fantasy of taking one back to
your place and

01:12:54.500 --> 01:12:56.500
And going through the whole
movie script and

01:12:57.780 --> 01:12:59.780
Either with that person's
knowledge or without

01:13:00.260 --> 01:13:05.860
You know this is fantasy land
that is just it's it's making
your brain just scream in
overdrive

01:13:06.980 --> 01:13:15.300
And is that cheating is that
dangerous can someone get hooked
and fall in love with someone
else just based I mean we have
lots of examples of the
happening through the internet

01:13:16.100 --> 01:13:18.100
Lots of examples

01:13:19.220 --> 01:13:24.420
Again, this is all part of the
training wheels this thing. It's
like you know for me doing
podcasting

01:13:24.420 --> 01:13:28.100
I unfortunately I really don't
weblog that much anymore

01:13:28.820 --> 01:13:32.420
Although I use the
infrastructure a lot for the
comments et cetera for this show

01:13:33.060 --> 01:13:35.060
but

01:13:35.060 --> 01:13:41.540
Hopping into second life man.
We're we're barely even walking
now and the technology is way
ahead of us

01:13:42.420 --> 01:13:45.460
and the powerful things we can
do so I hope to be able to

01:13:47.140 --> 01:13:49.140
Explore a lot of that with you

01:13:50.020 --> 01:13:53.860
Especially the folks in Britain
because you're on my time zone
or currently

01:13:54.420 --> 01:14:00.580
Yeah, so it's kind of rough when
you log in and everyone's asleep
and no one's there because
everyone in the states is you
know still on one year

01:14:03.140 --> 01:14:09.780
But you know, let's experiment
I'm getting tired. Can you hear
it? Let's experiment together
and let's figure out where we
can take this place

01:14:09.860 --> 01:14:12.980
The cool thing is all the
communication

01:14:13.860 --> 01:14:18.820
Infrastructure outside of second
life if it isn't already
integrated into second life

01:14:19.300 --> 01:14:26.500
It will be or we can integrate
it. You know we can make this
this stuff happen we can we can
turn it the way we want and I
think

01:14:27.060 --> 01:14:29.380
That the next time I meet up
with a whole bunch of people

01:14:29.700 --> 01:14:35.220
I think we'll do it in second
life and I'd love to have you
over to the castle and I'd love
to serve you martinis and

01:14:35.540 --> 01:14:40.580
Hope we have some you know some
fun things we can do some games
and we can listen to stuff
together and

01:14:41.860 --> 01:14:46.740
Just give me it give me a few
weeks to figure all this stuff
out and working very diligently
and if you've got any

01:14:47.220 --> 01:14:51.700
Any tips or anything just you
know just look me up you can see
if I'm online and

01:14:52.820 --> 01:14:55.060
I'm not letting you in the
castle yet perhaps because again

01:14:55.060 --> 01:14:58.980
I want to make it right now. I
want to have my place all set up
before I have all my friends
over

01:14:59.460 --> 01:15:04.180
But looking forward to that.
Okay, so what have we done now
an hour and 14 and it's holy

01:15:06.660 --> 01:15:08.660
Much longer than I had intended

01:15:13.140 --> 01:15:15.140
It'll be worth it

01:15:16.250 --> 01:18:23.380
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thinking about.

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Tomorrow, I probably won't be
able to do a source code because
I'm going into town now, right

01:19:15.260 --> 01:19:20.620
after this is uploaded and put
up on the podcast, literally
network, I'm staying in the
hotel,

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tomorrow night because we have,
or tonight because we have
meetings tomorrow morning,
starting

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at 8 or 8, 30, something like
that.

01:19:26.300 --> 01:19:32.220
So I do not want to deal with
getting up early and, and I
actually have never done the,

01:19:32.220 --> 01:19:36.020
the morning rush hour commute
train or otherwise.

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So I don't know if I'm, and
yeah, we have the sidelight
windows to hit and all that
stuff

01:19:39.620 --> 01:19:41.420
and we have meetings all day
long.

01:19:41.420 --> 01:19:46.620
So probably not going to be a
show, although I'll see if I can
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