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butler Michael butler rock and
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martina does a

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show called emo girl talk and
she's actually doing something
for a demo and

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she played this song and I was
posted in the demo for like man
I kind of

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dig that so I hope you
appreciate how I look today for
once I'm actually

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in complete attire I've got the
button down shirt on no tie but
I just took

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off my jacket an actual black
jacket you know not like a
leather thing or

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that diesel jacket that I have
or no I'm I'm prepped and ready
I'm back

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actually from a great meeting in
London with Ben Fervayan who is
the CEO of

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British telecom going to tell
you all about it because I'm
very excited about

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about what at first of all how
cool is that I left the house at
what I

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leave 11 15 11 15 gotten a cab
took me to the station and you
know right

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through you know that's 25 30
minute train ride I was I was
perfect timing I've

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got it down now see instead of
waiting 20 minutes I can get
there right on

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time get my ticket hop on with
just moments to spare quick cab
ride from a

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waterloo station to Newgate
Street where the BT Center is
and you know

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have a meeting then come back
same thing actually I scored a
oh man it was so

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nice I saw that I had like eight
minutes to spare getting off it
getting out of

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the cab getting ready to get on
the train on the way home and
I'm like okay

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Burger King I can smell it I got
myself a nice water meal hopped
on the on the

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train and ate it in first class
and stank up the whole place all
the way home

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and literally just got back and
figured I would share my
experiences with you

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guys because that's part of my
fun at least for the daily
source code but first

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just briefly about last night as
I've been starting to understand
even better

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how to utilize what I'm now
calling the user interface of
the future some

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call it a virtual world some
call it a game you know it is
second life but I'm

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really learning how to utilize
this thing as a communications
tool

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yesterday in the pod show palace
casino theater can you believe I
actually got

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that I had a couple people over
and you can actually just sit
down I can play a

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video and so I played some stuff
that work on it pod show some
trailers and

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some other things that you'll be
seeing soon this is just like my
little closed

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beta to gauge reaction but it
was so easy to do this and to
have people

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commenting while the video was
rolling you know it really isn't
interface I

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found something else which is
this multi-chair thing now you
just have to

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visualize this because remember
this is just about connecting
with people when

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you're doing it in a very visual
way and this multi-chair thing
you sit down

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in each person that sits down in
the chair a new chair appears
and I think

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there's a max I saw the max
yesterday at around 12 I think
but it's really

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good because everyone's sitting
and it kind of controlled not
moving about because

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when you get too many avatars
too many people as it were
roaming around

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then everything slows down and
we had a real good conversation
and there was you

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know as I said there was like 12
people in the chairs people
sitting around

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and it was you know we actually
got some chat going on we're
talking about the BBC

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was doing and I knew some of the
people I didn't know others and
then just as the

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conversation was kind of you
know at a certain point you have
too many people for

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a conversation which is also and
also be a problem with anyone
can just come into your

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virtual space I saw that Emma
was online so I sent her an
instant message I say

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Emma we got like the whole gang
over here come on over I got I
got your pole your

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stripper pole and sure enough
Emma came over it took her about
five minutes because she

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said she was with another
customer I'm not quite sure what
that means but I'm going to

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leave it at that so I paid her
$500 blind and dollars and and
of course on various web

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blogs you'll see pictures of
that fine gathering yesterday at
the castle oh my goodness

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that was fun though but it was
good and yeah even talk a little
bit about British telecom

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by my meetings today it really
it's a it's a great interface it
it works very well for me

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in limited quality quantities
because it does get a bit you
know overbearing and

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just a bit after a while so I
don't have a fully prepped show
I haven't even listened to the

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voicemail message box this
morning because it was just so
much to do and get ready and

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I actually had prepared the cast
blaster demo or the cast blaster
machine which I used for

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cast blaster as my demo machine
because I was going to show the
the CEO cast blaster of course

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but also pod show plus and the
pod cast delivery network so you
know lots of lots of

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preparatory work getting it just
right and I wanted to leave on
time so it could be in the lobby

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at one for the 130 meeting to be
able to configure their BT open
zone because of course with a

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company like British telecom if
you use their internal systems
you know Gmail is blocked Yahoo
is

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blocked no Yahoo isn't blocked
actually but Gmail is blocked so
you can't retrieve password

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easily and all this stuff so I
just wanted to get on the BT
open zone which of course they
also

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have in the building completely
separate network and just be
able to do the demo from there
to show

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what we were getting into
together before all that though
there are some things I have to
admit

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that take precedence over the
CEO of British telecom.

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all right he's up to tricks now
now he's up to high jinx and I
like it so I'm curious

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here is comic strip program from
comic strip block.com I just
wanted to tell you that I called

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London speech radio station LBC
that you can also hear in
Guildford last Sunday to ask
about

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something the presenter whose
name is Ian Lee who is also a
grand son of the actor who
played

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in Star Wars and by the way I
mentioned you Adam and here is
what was he's reaction.

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it's another carry reference
this is I don't carry. Do you
know here?

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yeah who is he?

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excuse please don't let the road
any. I don't carry lives at the
road yeah.

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I don't carry yes do you mean
madam carry?

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no I ain't Adam Curry. Hasan.

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no Adam. Madam Kira.

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close but not close enough. Okay
so Adam Curry is a guy who is in
Guildford.

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he lives in Guildford yes. He
invented podcasting.

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he invented podcasting.

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yes wow.

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so it now you know who invented
podcasting.

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Madam carry.

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no Adam Curry.

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Adam Curry.

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okay yeah anyway thanks.

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okay thank you.

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bye bye.

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that was a call from Germany.

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Adam Curry.

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so you can hear Adam that
apparently some radio presenters
still don't know who the

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fuck are you?

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maybe some post-save music
artists could write a song who
the fuck is carry.

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something like who the fuck is
Alice.

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ciao.

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you know comics are blogger you
are my hero dude.

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I think you should call every
single radio program in the UK
and record this stuff.

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and every single time you get
you get the host to mention my
name on the air.

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I'll pay you five hundred linden
dollars okay every single time.

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be happy to do it. I'm happy to
have you terrorize these guys.
Fantastic.

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okay onto business then.

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so it's no secret that we've
been thinking about setting up
pod show UK and part of the
reason is

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besides the fact that I like
being here and because my girls
are here too you know I kind of

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get the tag along with the
family and we like it here and
there's a thriving podcast
community

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which happens to speak more or
less the same language as we do
in the United States.

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despite all our differences and
more on a future yanks versus
the brit segment for that.

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but we met with a whole bunch of
the podcast community.

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some of the thought leaders at
our draft and darts not too long
ago.

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not everybody could make it
unfortunately but at least we
got a good

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good vibe for what is going on
and a lot of passion a lot of
excitement.

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and in order to open up
something in any or any other
office for that matter believe
it or not

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you know the the eight almost
nine million dollars and of
course there's the the money

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runner I put in. so let's say
the ten million dollars that
that has been put into pod show

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is just not enough to open up
another office with five to
eight people in in London.

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or anywhere in in the United
Kingdom for that matter just
look at the exchange rate for
one

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but also it was never really in
our plan to do this until you
know we had significant revenues

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and now a lot of things are
coming together a little bit
faster than we thought some of
them

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simultaneously when it rains at
pores kind of stuff. and so we
were really looking for as we

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do in the US as well for two
types of partners one is an
advertising agency who has
clients

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of course and during our week
here we met with several of them
several who have US companies

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have a British annexes and vice
versa. as well as distribution
now for us distribution is

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well it's a whole bunch of
things but it's anywhere that we
can feature podcasts and
hopefully ours

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as well not just ours but yeah
we'd like to put ours up there
and an example that is iTunes

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pod finder I actually haven't
seen the new pod finder thought
I was supposed to come out
yesterday

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it should be up so that's
distribution now on pod finder
we promote rarely promote a pod
show

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podcast it's really to promote
podcasting in general but you
can you can see what you know
what the

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the obvious types of partners
are for us. excuse me since I
haven't had a freaking drop all
day

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so with British telecom it's a
very interesting company they do
not have a mobile arm even
though

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they are the default telephony
carrier here in the UK and
beyond the UK but most prompt

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predominantly here in the UK
they're very interested in in
y-max no secret they're coming
out with

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they an IPTV service offering
and the company is although
often seen is a little dusty and

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old and stodgy you know they
definitely have an attitude
about where they want to go and
it was

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only a couple weeks ago no I was
more than that actually it was
about two months ago when I was

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last days I was in San Francisco
the last time that we were asked
to come and meet with

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a number of key executives of
British telecom what happened to
be in Silicon Valley so we did
that

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and I don't think they were
quite expecting what we had to
say but when we basically had

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laid it all out they said wow
you know we should see if we can
work together because this is
very

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timely we're coming out with new
products etc and so we've been
talking meeting some negotiation

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not you know we we don't like to
negotiate really really long and
drawn out because if if the

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intent of a contract is not the
same from both sides no amount
of paper is going to make
anything

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right so you know you try to
avoid those situations usually
it's a bad sign if there's a lot
of

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back and forth on a contract at
least that's my experience so we
so the out that we're down to
the

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wire here and the final piece
was for me to meet with the CEO
Ben Forvian who was a Dutch guy

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and to seal the deal I guess so
we had exactly 20 minutes
scheduled this is very typical
for a CEO

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by the way 20 minutes and since
I'm the default pod show guy I
was off to go and do it

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Ben Forvian interesting although
I was pretty sure I'd never met
him before I know of him and

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have seen him on television
shows he's a Dutch executive he
ran parts of a KPN the Dutch

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to a telephone company he was
CEO of loosen technologies he
also worked at I believe
endimole

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Holland media group he's one of
these guys who's definitely been
around and has been there

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there's someone calling me
what's that no sorry that's KJ
he wants to talk about the
meeting

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we'll have to call him right
back so when I came in you know
and I was kind of prepared to

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you know how to you only have 20
minutes I just want to make a
really good impression that's
why

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I was all gossiping up and
Patricia helped me of course
maybe look pretty and makes me
also confident

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and I know that he had just
received a the equivalent of a
night hood from from the Dutch
queen

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so I'm already to congratulate
him on on this prestigious award
and I figured I'm not going

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to speak Dutch right off the
battle at him choose the
language so yeah nice to meet
you Adam Croix

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oh nice to meet you we've
actually met before well I guess
I'd make a big impression on you
then

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huh like oh shit this is not
good but he's a really very
awake

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aware kind of guy you know and
so he immediately is pushing on
you know so I got the cue

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I'm into my rap about what pod
show is what we've been talking
with his team about and all the

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guys were there you know we
worked a lot with Steven and
Gavin and so you know they were
in the room

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I couldn't just tell they're
like oh man this is it's got to
go right and I and what was

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fascinating is so I took him
through pod show plus and he's
like oh yeah I really like this
yeah

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this is good so I'm still in
couch potato mode kind of said
well you know you couldn't
configure this

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so you can listen or watch
things at your office or say
well so I can have this set up
so that I

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can get stuff at home when I
come home from a busy day at
work and it'll say here's what
I've

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collected for you after a busy
day of work I said well we'll
have to put the words in the
busy day

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at work part but yes exactly
what it does and we you know
went ahead and create he said oh
I'm

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interested in cooking so I love
it when when people try and
break a demo like that so I you
know

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once straight to the director he
pulled out a vegan the vegan
cooking podcast actually

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put that in build Ben's test
channel and he's like okay so
but what if I want to make
something I

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say well I'm glad you asked so I
whip up class blaster he's like
hmm hmm so I give a quick run

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through when I say but you know
instead of explaining all this
let's just record a podcast

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so I hit record and actually I
think and this was just through
the microphone on the

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Chiba so it sounded like shit
but I had to overmodulate
because you think the
microphone's bad

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on the Chiba the speaker is even
worse it's like it's almost like
an iPod speaker only that
someone

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someone you when you don't jam
into your ear he let's listen to
I think we have that test
podcast we

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created on poppin it up now it's
actually on the podcast delivery
network so here we go

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is it playing a crap shoot I
have to I'm sorry all right I'll
continue to talk well my

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engineer actually does some
reconfiguration here so and you
know and he and so I show this

20:25.400 --> 20:29.960
cast blaster piece and we record
it and I show him how easily
gets shot right up to the

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right up to the to the pdn and
he's like okay I like this this
is really good so I can do

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this how about video I say well
you know obviously you know we
add the video component to cast
blaster

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and you do the same thing and
you still have to provide your
cameras like no no this is great

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he said this is one of the
biggest things we learned at
end-a-mole and end-a-mole of
course

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is famous for the big brother
program he said is the results
that we achieved by hiring
regular

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people and not actors to be in
the television shows that that
was brilliance and I'm like dude
you

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are a visionary that's for sure
he'll I think I've got it wired
up so okay so whatever we say
now is

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okay yep and then we can have we
can add uh so we can add a drum
to that if you want yeah okay

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but that's the voice and now how
do I do a video see there he
goes yeah the video is guys
we're so

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smart he's straight straight to
the video amazing okay so that's
all we did basically you can

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hear him jabbering away and he
was like boom boom boom question
after question and then he says

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I like it this is great what
what what what what what's the
deal what are we doing and then
the guy

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said well basically you know we
we have the deal we just you
know without saying and it's
like okay

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we just want your blessing and
he's like and and I immediately
jumped in and said yeah this is

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actually just the courtesy call
you know just say hi and uh and
he said this is fantastic this
can

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be bigger than dream works I
want to talk about it tomorrow
to the shareholders and I was
like oh

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anyway I think we're in business
and of course until it's signed
in blood

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which means we have a partner
and I think it's a damn good one
they are really they've you know

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without going into all the
details of our agreement of
course hope you don't mind

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there's going to be a lot of
push for marketing for
podcasting it will not be
exclusive to BT

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customers only it'll be for
everybody of course there'll be
tons of BT branding

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which is obvious for obvious
reasons and and we're really
going to push this to the
forefront

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and I think in in combination
with the BBC who are educating
people almost daily now on on
what

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podcasting is I think we will
really kick some ass now will
also be creating show
specifically

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for the for the UK market you
know so what we have budgets and
you know please don't go

22:49.320 --> 22:55.240
filling up the Gmail because I
know everyone is excited and I
know that there's lots of stuff

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that we all want to do just let
me you know give us a few weeks
to get everything squared away

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but I'm so happy I'm even more
happy now that we had a chance
to meet so many cool people at
the

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draft and darts meet up at the
bricklayers arms because well we
said we would do our best and I

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think we're there so extremely
excited about it let me see I
was going to you know what I was
going

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to try and hit the exact
satellite window for this show
let's screw it let's just play
another song

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some I played before but it just
felt right for the mood it's a
bit of a style council

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lanky fallen hard for the girl

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you're my friend when you fall
in your heart when you fall in
your heart when you fall in your
heart

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lanky fallen hard for the girl
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about British telecom I love
their assistance and secretaries
there so fun to flirt with them
so

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easy telling us that whole
american vibe and if Patricia
were here she'd say I'm full of
shit

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and definitely full of myself
and I'm telling you it's fun and
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