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Modcasting is a battery.

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[ Music ]

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it works for you but give me
that first day of summer feelin'
it's lack strit, Wednesday
morning, played several times
beforeabouts of the Daily Source
code, usually on a Wednesday,
yeah, I wonder why.

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Hey Kicks off, your Wednesday
here, on the Charlie good
morning everybody from Northern
California another beautiful
day, it is the first day of
summer summer's solstice, of
course celebrations took place,
hours ago,

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hours ago. That's all due to
time difference in the United
Kingdom where 25,000 people

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were expected to show up at
Stonehenge, including our very
own pod chick. I think she had

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or wasn't her wedding ceremony
plan today, probably multiple
wedding ceremonies, all kinds

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of druids and believers and
witches and goblins, all kinds
of stuff shown up at Stonehenge.

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Hopefully we'll get an update
from the pod chick. She seemed
pretty happy to be there.

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And we're happy to be here San
Francisco winding down my trip.
It looks like I'm going to go
back

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on Saturday for a Sunday morning
arrival and I'm ready for it. My
goodness. Last night,

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Miami Heat Champions. That was
pretty incredible. Now you know,
I've been following

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what is happening to me? I used
to be such a metro-sexual guy
and now I'm following sports

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like soccer and I'm even a
little bit interested in hockey,
even though it's over. I think

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it was the only person in
America interested in hockey.
What went wrong there? How can
we

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don't care about hockey anymore
in the US? But what a great
game. Fantastic game last night
to see the

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heat versus the Mavericks and it
was, you know, we watched it at
21st Amendment that's a bar

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which is right next to the
office conveniently located.
Interestingly enough, I think we
were the

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Miami Heat fans in the place.
The rest seemed to be for
Dallas. But congratulations to
the

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Miami Heat. It was a great game
and well-deserved win. Lots of
stuff happening at the office.
Of

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course, that's why I'm here in
San Francisco at Pod Show HQ. As
we get ready for the full
unleash

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of Pod Show Plus. More about
that in just a little bit.
Actually, we'll do a
metro-sexual moment

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which has something to do with
the release of Pod Show Plus.
But we've got 50 people in the
office now.

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And you know what? We've crossed
that point where I think I know
everyone's name. It's

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incredible. It's incredible to
see how quickly this has grown
and this is all based upon

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business, upon revenue, upon
being able to hire more people
to do more things, which is

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the way Ron and I have always
operated companies. We've never
had dot-com investments. And the

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investment we have now was
really most important part is
getting all these incredibly

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smart people on our board of
directors and being able to
utilize their experience.

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The end of the roadodex is when
appropriate. But we have
contractors in as well working
on some

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specific projects. And as a tall
person or as we say, as someone
who was vertically challenged,

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and that can go both ways
obviously. Patricia is also
vertically challenged, but in a
different

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direction. There's one thing,
actually I should say, not just
being a tall person, I'm six

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four. If I stand up really
straight, I probably just can
scratch six five, but you get
used to kind

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of stooping down a little bit,
particularly when you have a
life partner who is five, three.

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I think she says five four, but
I think she's lying about that.
We'll ask her a Monday when we
do a

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show together. The one thing you
miss, particularly in a position
I've been together for 20 years,

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it's the hugging. You know, I
like to hug. And it's
complicated when you're of such
a vast

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different height. You can come
up with all kinds of solutions.
And we always find ourselves

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me walking on the street
Patricia walking on the sidewalk
to get that little extra lift or
you know,

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we use stairs or we use anything
we can. We have some tall people
showing up at the office now

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who we're working with as a pod
show here in San Francisco. Lisa
is a contractor and Lisa's
great,

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because Lisa is, she's got to be
six feet tall. She may even be
taller. I'm not sure.

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And we were talking about this
the other day and her fiance is
a little bit, not much,

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which is a little bit shorter
than she is. And I say, you
know, Lisa, there's just one
thing.

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Um, could I hug you? And there's
something about a hug hugging
someone who was of equal height

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of you that it just cannot be
compared. And the reason I say
this is because watching the
heat

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last night, I remember, oh man,
this must have been 11 years
ago, maybe, interestingly
enough,

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with many of the same people
that I'm with now, Ron and
actually this was with the KJ
Chris Jacob.

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We, uh, we built planet
rebox.com, which was rebox, um,
website. It was one of very
early in the

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game. There was 94, 94, 95. And
we do all kinds of events and we
go to the Super Bowl and we do

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cybercast and we do interviews.
And at the time, Shack had just
signed up with rebox for his,
uh,

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his humongous literally,
humongous shoe, uh, shoe deal.
And, uh, so we, I think we went
to a

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camera if it wasn't land. It
feels like it wasn't at land,
but I'm not sure we went to
interview

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and, and I said to Shack that
Shack, excuse me, uh, could I
just hug you for a moment? And
that was

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probably the best hug I've ever
had to hug this huge thing that
was bigger than me. It was just

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the, and you know, I could kind
of just kind of melt away in his
arms. Man, that guy is huge,

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diesel, brought it home. I, uh,
made a call to Uncle Don
yesterday. Now, for those of you
who haven't

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heard the episode where I talked
about Uncle Don when I was in
New York, Uncle Don, who is my

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uncle? Um, I see, uh, he's
married to my dad's sister. Uh,
he has a long standing, uh,
relationship

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with the US government. He was,
uh, uh, I'm, I'm not sure, you
know, I have to ask him because
I keep

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forgetting I probably muck it
up, but, uh, I think he ran
either the NSA or portions of
the CIA

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many years ago. He was, uh,
security advisor to, uh, Bush
senior when he was VP. He was,
uh,

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and this is probably the most,
uh, interesting thing. He was
ambassador to South Korea for a
number of

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years. And, uh, for the past, I
think, five or six, maybe, maybe
even longer than that, maybe
eight

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years. He's been the chairman
CEO of the Korea Society. And
that's, headquartered in New
York City.

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So with, uh, with, uh, you know,
all this talk of missiles being
fueled up and things heating

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up in North Korea, I figured
time to call Uncle Don because
we got to get him on the show.

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And, uh, and, and I, you know, I
really wanted to do an, uh, uh,
in person to interview with him

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because I felt that that would
just, it would be much better,
but you know, shoot. I'm ready
for, uh,

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for a Skype call. So I called,
uh, spoke to Aunt Meg and, uh,
guess what, Uncle Don is in

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Seoul, Korea right now. Gee,
it's not a coincidence. And this
guy is, uh, he's, uh, he's, uh,
he, he's

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important. I, I know that, uh,
some, uh, maybe he won't ever be
able to tell me or us about what

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he's doing, but I know that
he's, he's, uh, heavily, he
knows the Koreans so incredibly
well,

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South and North, if, as if
there's a real difference in the
people. Um, and I know that he's
over

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there doing good stuff. And I
know that he's extremely
concerned about North Korea. So,

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uh, obviously not able to get
through to him in Seoul and
there's all kinds of time, time
zones,

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issues, etc. Uh, but, um, I did
get an email back from him after
talking on Meg and, uh, anywhere

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before July 12th, he'll be more,
uh, after he gets back. So he
gets back this Sunday, I guess.
So

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sometime next week, I'm going to
give him a call and we'll just
do a Charlie talking Uncle Don.

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And you're going to love this
guy. You are going to love him.
Well, uh, when you hear his
stories

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and when you hear his insights
and, and he's, he really knows
what's going on. So I'm excited
about

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that. It's going to be very cool
to have Uncle Don on the show.
It's a family affair once again.

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Hey, what's up, Adam, this
Jersey Todd. And I just want to
play you something from
yesterday's

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chat chat. It's from my personal
Charlie music colleges. Jersey
Todd from the Jersey Todd show.

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Jersey Todd show.com. Dude,
thank you so much for turning me
on to this.

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Daisy Cutter featuring Uncle
Keith. Cool Keith. That is a big
deal as, uh, Jersey Todd said

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in his email to me. So listen,
the official musicologist of the
Charlie, I don't know. I

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thought last month, I was the
official solicitor, a lawyer of
the daily source code. I don't
know.

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I've got more titles than the
New York Public Library. But
listen, that's not the reason
I'm

13:42.380 --> 13:46.620
checking in. The song you played
yesterday. Daisy Cutter. That's
actually recorded by seven

13:46.620 --> 13:51.980
Ellen Esoteric Adam
Massachusetts. Cool Keith, or as
I like to call him Dr. Octagon
himself,

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apparently helped out with the
track. And if you're not
familiar with cool Keith, his
sound and his

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wordplay is all over that song.
Seven Ellen Esoteric's new album
is being released on June 27th
on

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Baby Grand Records. And you can
check out some other tracks from
them on the PMN. Now listen,

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I'm not going to cheap in this
audio comment with a cheap plug
for my show, the Jersey Todd
show.

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In fact, I think that daily
source code listeners are
computer savvy and enough to
find

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it themselves. And I think it
would cheapen the office of the
official musicologist of the
Charlie

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for me to say my website
addressed. All I'm going to say
is that it's exactly the same as
www.google.com,

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except instead of Google, you
should put something else in
there. Hey, it's Jersey Todd and
the Jersey

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Todd Show, and I'll catch you on
the flip side. Oh, man. A lawyer
with a sense of humor. I love
it.

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Dude, we got to work on on your
presentation skills there, okay?

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Because if you're if you're an
attorney and you're the your the
official musicologist and you

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got to be like a denny crane
thing, man. Jersey Todd, that's
what we need from you.

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Jersey Todd, here for you
protecting the interests of the
Charlie listeners.

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Hi, and welcome to the Macaew
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Yeah, it's just I think you had
an audio comment that went along
with this where he said

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uh maybe it was an email I can't
remember. A little fuzzy this
morning. It's Wednesday morning.

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I always said, oh, you may not
be in the mood for playing this
promo. It's about the Mac. I
know

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you hate the Mac. It's like
whoa, step back for a second. I
don't hate anything. You know,

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I still love Macs. I've got my
eye Mac right here. I've got
Patricia's got an eye Mac at
home.

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It's just the power books or the
ones that are freaking me out.
That's all, you know, and

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power books I need to portable.
I need a portable. That's going
to be reliable and and yeah,

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reliable. That's about it. And I
just really frustrated with with
the quality. I think of the
hardware

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more than anything with the with
Macs right now, you know. And
everyone said, oh, you should
buy

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a Macbook Pro or buy a Macbook.
You know, this is what you need.
You can even run Windows on it.

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Yeah, I understand. I totally
understand. But I'm glad I
didn't because I've been reading
up a

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little bit on what's going on
with the with the Macbooks and
the MacBook Pros and we have,
you know,

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all kinds of things like
overheating because of a plastic
strip that was left in in the in
the

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casing. I've heard that Wi-Fi.
In fact, I read Jason Kelcanus
was having problems with his
MacBook Pro.

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And he and he's getting a little
bit protrude, if you will.
Because though the apparently
there

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was a series of MacBook Pros
with a Wi-Fi is flaky and and
then there's a a wine. Oh, man,

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the screen wine. I've had that
on an old laptops and all kinds
of computers, essentially. But

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then it's basically the screen.
When you turn it up to a certain
brightness, then it starts to
wine.

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It's like, no, this, you know,
that's like buying a Bentley and
hearing, you know, something

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knocking is that's horrible.
It's that does not make you feel
good. So if that stuff gets
fixed,

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you know, it's again, it's it
doesn't really matter to me. I
just want something that's
actually

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it does matter to me because I
when I took the the power book
into the shop yesterday to have

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David at the HQ take care of it.
I was like, man, this thing is
heavy. I mean, I mean, kind of

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tooling around with the portage,
which is like two pounds or
something. It's it's a very,

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very nice light machine to
really use on your lap. You
know, no fried nuts or anything
like that.

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It's good. Something amazing
happened to me yesterday, my
friends. Something completely
amazing.

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As you know, England played
Sweden. Now, in the world cup
finals, football or soccer, as
you will.

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And the history of this is very
much like the like the Miami
Heat actually, Miami Heat had
never

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beat the Mavericks on Mavericks
home turf. England has never
been able to beat Sweden for 47

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years. They've not been able to
beat Sweden. And gosh, I wish I
was there because England really

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got into it this time. Everyone
was having Swedish meatballs for
dinner and we were going to go

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kicked their ass. We were going
to win. And it was a fantastic
game. Of course, I didn't see
the game

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because I was at the office. It
started. I think it noon. Some
people at the office showed up
much

18:49.900 --> 18:56.540
later in the day. I wonder if
they were watching the match
Richard Brewer. But that's okay.
I completely

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understand. What was
interesting, though, is I was in
meetings. And I kept getting
text messages

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from Patricia. She was actually
sitting home watching the game
and she was totally into it and

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she was giving me the score. And
she was telling me, oh, now
Rune's playing and Beckham looks
cute.

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Oh, and there's another goal.
And this is not my wife. I'm
like, what is going on? She does
not

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watch these things. So I don't
know if it's the England spirit
that's kicked in. I mean,

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my mother-in-law. Yeah, I mean,
she watches football religiously
and to have her text me with the

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score, I would completely
expect. But have Patricia do it.
I was blown away. She was really

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really into it. I can't wait to
get home to see this new woman
of mine. I really can't.

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Hello, Adam. This is Brad Gunter
from Berlin. Come back a whole
new source of the

19:51.580 --> 19:57.100
good soccer football team. Dude,
you sound like you're in a
freaking dungeon. You'll see if
I can

19:57.100 --> 20:01.340
filter you to make your sound
better as is really horrible.
Problems in having it trying to
get out

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the right way to say it. Um,
they're not producing it from a
German magazine that was about

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since it will come here all the,
there's magnets in there. Rep
dude, would you send that to me
again

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because you had a really good
piece there and it sounded much
better when I was previewing it

20:16.700 --> 20:20.700
before the show, but now I can't
hear a single word you're
saying. It was about the
difference between

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soccer and football and that
actually he says soccer is the
appropriate term for the game

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because well he has some kind of
explanation for it. But it stems
back to the 19th century when we
had

20:36.460 --> 20:45.580
basically rugby and soccer. But
I disagree. I think I think
football is football. In fact in
Europe,

20:45.580 --> 20:50.220
we say American football when
we're talking about football in
the States, which is fine. I
think

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so I don't like soccer. I don't
like the name at all. Football
is really what it is. You play
the

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ball with your feet. In fact,
you get penalized if you play it
with your hand. It's too bad
about that.

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Sorry. Hey, we haven't done this
in a real long time.

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Yeah. So I guess the only thing
really to talk about well
there's two things for the

21:27.580 --> 21:34.700
Metro sexual moment. On today's
episode, it's this beard thing.
Now I made a very bold statement
yesterday

21:34.700 --> 21:40.700
saying that I would grow my
beard until we released or
unleashed Potso Plus in public
data.

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Whoa. I've never really really
let my my my facial hair grow to
any extent. I mean it may be

21:48.940 --> 21:55.660
over the weekend or something or
maybe three days at most, but it
really itches when it gets

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much longer. And and I think
it's starting to look kind of
scraggly. So I need some advice

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instead of me giving you advice.
I definitely need some advice on
how do I maintain this?

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You know, how do I make it not
look? Well, I guess part of the
point is for me to look like a
total

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to weave by growing this beard
until until we unleash. But does
anyone have any recommendations
for

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tools to use? I mean, all I keep
thinking of is that they used to
have that Don Johnson like

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shaver so you could still keep
your stubble going. Should I be
clipping it over the sink?

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Which is to scum a dad used to
do that. And I hate it. So
discussing, but it itches and
how long

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will it take before the itching
stops? Now you probably see in
the album art for today,

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for this podcast, and this was a
great, I hope you had me who
suggested this to me the other
day.

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Someone said, hmm, I try to
think who it was. Well, anyway,
someone suggested that with each
podcast,

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as the beard grows, instead of
the the normal pod father
picture that shows up in your

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player or in your iTunes or your
iPod or wherever you happen to
be listening to this show,

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we'll stick in a picture of the
growth of the beard. Which of
course means we can

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dedicate an entire show to
shaving it off once we're out
and we're unleashed. One other
thing,

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this is from Ole Christian,
Christian Valle. I think that's
how you pronounce it. This was a

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comment. It wasn't email. I
think it was an email.
Apparently in the catfish show,

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which you can find at
catfishshow.com, there's a
conversation ongoing about women
using men's

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deodorant and why they do. Is
this true ladies? And I know
you're listening to the metro
sexual

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moment. Do you use male
deodorant and why? Isn't that
stuff supposed to be pH balance
for us

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and not for you? Inquiring
minds, need to know. Yesterday,
Roger Smalls had some questions
about

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sleep. And let me see, can I
still make this? Oh crap, yeah,
I'll play it now. Because he
asked Uncle

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Jesse our satellite repairman,
you know, P-Dub to come up with
some answers as to how we can
stop

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falling asleep. Hello, Roger.
Uncle Jesse here. I understand
you're having some trouble with

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elective energy and falling
asleep on the couch at night.
Two things that I have a great
deal of

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experience with worry no more.
The solution is awfully simple,
Roger. Here is the easiest
solution

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to sleeping too much. Simply,
schedule an important meeting.
I'm sorry, let me start that
over.

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Simply, schedule an important
meeting. Something that will
affect your entire existence for

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800 the next day. Hopefully, at
some location there will be a
lengthy commute. Then,

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every time you even think about
sleeping, recall that you have
this important appointment in

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the morning. I guarantee you
won't sleep even a minute during
the night. However, be really
careful

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in the shower that morning. It's
going to be really interesting
to see if P-Dub puts that

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entire comment on the on the
serious show. I kind of slide it
right over the over the window
there.

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Sorry about that P-Dub. Timing
is everything I guess. If you
have a question,

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if you need something answered,
if you need advice, there's only
one man you need to go to.

25:32.220 --> 25:35.180
The satellite repairman. He
takes care of it all.

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The satellite repairman. Thank
you so much. Everyone who's
helping us change advertising by

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submitting your own version of a
commercial for Earthlink, who
are of course sponsors of the

26:10.140 --> 26:15.740
P-Dub podcast networks,
fantastic the way this is going.
Essentially, we're putting our
money

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and Earthlink's money. Happy to
do that. We're putting that
where your mouth is,

26:19.580 --> 26:26.060
which means you get to create
the messaging. What's the best
way to tell listeners of this

26:26.060 --> 26:31.820
program? I'm not even talking
about all podcasts. Maybe this
podcast, which is why I'm
playing

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submissions here, want people
who are listening to this show.
How do we communicate the
message?

26:38.940 --> 26:45.180
What is the best way to do it?
Are there more creative ways
than the traditional commercial?

26:46.140 --> 26:51.980
Well, it turns out there are. If
you go to
adchalance.podshow.com, you can
submit your

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commercial, your endorsement,
any type of audio you want
really, as long as it's
conveying the message

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of Earthlink, and I would have
to say, as long as it's truthful
in conveying the message of
Earthlink,

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which is what really seems to
work best. You can win $2,000.

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Yes, great cash prizes. It's all
part of our quit your day job
program. It's not all that much
for

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a quit your day job, but damn,
it's a start. Let's see how
clear I can make this.

27:27.340 --> 27:32.860
And this is what my voice sounds
like. With Earthlink's true
voice, the internet phone
service

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from the internet experts. Let
your voice speak for itself. Go
to earthlink.net today to hear
your

27:41.340 --> 27:42.140
true voice.

27:46.460 --> 27:51.340
Yeah, I love it. If only all
phone calls sounded like that.
Could you also make it Earthlink
so that

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when people call me, they
actually just chirp like birds?
Oh, be so beautiful.

27:55.500 --> 27:59.260
Brandon, some problems yesterday
with cash blast, I told you
about having the, hey, I'm still

27:59.260 --> 28:05.580
learning all this PC stuff. Had,
had, had used cash blasts,
they're on an extended desktop.

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So a secondary screen at the
office and when I got home and I
fired a cash blaster, a cash

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blaster was still on the
secondary screen. Only the
screen was turned off. And the
desktop,

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extended desktop was turned off.
So it was somewhere on the edges
of my screen in cyberspace.

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And I was, you know, I had to
wheel the mouse over and try and
figure out how to, you know,

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where I was on cash blaster was
I able to click on the, on the
title bar and drag it over. And
thank

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you so much, everyone who sent
in comments, a lot of email
about how to actually move
windows

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when this happens. So first of
all, it is an application error.
Because I think it's something

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the program itself can check
when it starts up and cash
blaster mic emailed me
immediately,

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laughing out loud, of course,
and said, hey, man, I fixed it.
So that will never happen again.

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So we'll see that in the future
release. Apparently, see who
sent me this one. This was Shawn

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Nichols. Right click on the
button in the task bar for the
application, select move. Now
here,

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this is the part that I didn't
get. Then you can move the
window with the, with the arrow
keys.

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duh. If only I'd known that one.
So you could, of course, can
also do it with the mouse, which
is

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what I had done. But if you
select move, oh, you can also
select move and then the mouse
gets like

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crosshairs. But it's a lot
easier to use the arrow keys.
Yeah, a lot of these shortcuts

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I haven't quite figured out yet.
And you know what I still
really, really miss. I really
missed

29:33.020 --> 29:38.540
the Apple key H command. Wow, I
noticed how much I used to use
that just to hide an application

29:38.540 --> 29:44.460
real quick to get back to the
desktop. And I do use the, what
is it window start key and D,

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which will take you to the
desktop and move all the other
windows out of the way. But a
hide

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command would be highly
appreciated. Hi Adam. This is
Jim Farley. And today, while
listening

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to the Charlie, you gave me a
great idea. It was during the
Earthling Prima that you played.

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You see the guy mentioned that
Earthling was donating band with
to hurricane survivors.

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Well, I started thinking about
that. You see, I wrote a song
after Katrina because my

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daughter and her husband lost
their home and slide Eloiseana
to the hurricane and they had
come

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to live with us here in Ohio.
That's when it hit me. If you
can arrange it somehow that my
song

30:22.060 --> 30:28.300
Katrina is set up to be
purchased on the pod safe music
network, I would donate my
entire portion

30:28.300 --> 30:34.540
to hurricane relief. My daughter
and her husband are doing fine,
but there are so many others

30:34.540 --> 30:39.260
that still need our help. And
I'd like to do more than what
I've been doing for them by
trying

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to generate some real money for
the cause. And the pod show
listeners have proven that they
can

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get behind something like this
with cancer and other worthwhile
causes. So what say you Adam,

30:50.700 --> 30:57.020
is this something that's even
plausible? I'd like to think so.
And any dollars that we can put
into

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the hands of the people who need
it in that area, not the
government's slippery little
fingers,

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is immensely helpful. I know
this firsthand. You can find
Katrina along with my other
songs on the

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pod safe music network. Can we
do this? Well, what say you was
the question? I say, yeah, of
course

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we can. In fact, every single
pod safe song that we play on
the Charlie, as a part of our
rolling

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unleash is made available for
purchase. That is if the artist
wants it to be made available
for

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purchase. So in this case, it's
clear you do. Let me just get
the song cranking while we're
talking

31:38.060 --> 31:43.020
here. So great news. It's
Christmas years in the office
all this week. So we're on the
same

31:43.020 --> 31:50.700
time zone and he'll be certain
to contact you to make that
available for purchase. And I
have to say,

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it's instrumental piece, but
it's beautiful. And I can just
see the images that you go along
with this.

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So I would suggest video artists
out there want you to give a
stab at really making this play
into

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something multimedia. Listen to
the song. It's beautiful. You
can just see the images

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flashing before you.

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[ Music ]

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Now, I'm not much of a
videographer, but hearing that,
I immediately want to run over
to

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well, used to be Final Cut Pro.
Now, of course, it's Adobe
Premiere. Now, I'm on Windows.

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I want to go edit some video to
that beautiful man. So,
Christmas years will get in
touch with you.

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And we'll set that up. And ping
me from time to time. Let me
know how it's going and remind
me.

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And I'll play it again. And the
best reminder, of course, is if
we get some cool videos
associated

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with that, that'd be great. And
you know what? We'll definitely
raise some money. It happened,

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you know, look at what we did
with the MS Walk for the
Bitties. I mean, it was like
over $20,000.

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It was unreal. Yeah, we got a
lot of power here. Speaking of
power, I promise to once and a
while

35:33.980 --> 35:39.340
explain what this whole sense of
thing burp is about. Because
there are lots of new listeners
who

35:39.340 --> 35:45.740
come in and they hear me burp.
And then they hear me say sense
to him. And they're wondering
what

35:45.740 --> 35:52.940
that's all about. This is
something that we started, oh
man, must be a year ago by now.
And it was

35:52.940 --> 35:57.820
really just a simple test and
advertising test. I think with
the conversation at the time on
daily

35:57.820 --> 36:04.300
source code was about
advertising. And, you know, I
truly believe that the way
mainstream

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advertising works is through
repetition. It's how we elect
our presidents. You know, if you

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you have $200 million worth of
advertising dollars to spend,
you can, you have a pretty good

36:14.780 --> 36:19.420
shot at becoming president of
the United States. I hate to say
it, but that's just the way it
is.

36:19.500 --> 36:25.260
You know, people buy different
soap powder based upon
commercials, stuff they can see
over and

36:25.260 --> 36:30.380
over and they can sing the
jingle and they can, you know,
they know the joke of the spot
on TV.

36:30.380 --> 36:35.500
And it's repetition. It really
does work. But it's also a part
of anchoring or neurolinguistic

36:35.500 --> 36:40.140
programming, or perhaps somewhat
called the Vulcan mind trick.
And it started, it didn't even

36:40.140 --> 36:44.060
start off with a burp. It
started off where I asked you
listeners to pick a point. I'm
not going to

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do it now. I'm not going to, I'm
not going to program your mind
right now. But, you know, there
was a

36:48.460 --> 36:52.700
situation. I said, pick a point,
look at it, and then if then I
would say Sanseo, and then

36:52.700 --> 36:56.940
whenever you went past that
point, you wouldn't be able to
help think, but think of Sanseo,

36:56.940 --> 37:02.140
kind of like a virtual
billboard. And I was getting
people saying that every single
time they

37:02.140 --> 37:08.220
moved the lawn and went past a
particular bush, they would
think of Sanseo. And then I
can't

37:08.220 --> 37:13.500
remember how we morphed over to
the burp, but it just happened.
And by the way, Sanseo pays me

37:13.500 --> 37:19.820
nothing for this. I'm just a
lover of the product. They
should, though, man. Damn, they
should.

37:20.700 --> 37:27.980
Anyway, so it's just kind of an
out of hand advertising
experiment. But this stuff is
working

37:27.980 --> 37:34.620
in very, very strange ways. In
fact, the lighter clicks at the
end of the show, people now tell

37:34.620 --> 37:39.020
me that whenever they see or
whenever they hear a lighter
click, they think of the daily
source code.

37:39.900 --> 37:44.860
And you may think they're
strange, but when you really
think through it, it makes a lot
of sense.

37:44.860 --> 37:49.420
And I got to come up with more
of these things because, well,
I'm actually influencing

37:49.420 --> 37:56.940
people's bodies now. Hi, Adam.
It's Adros from Potsworth here.
A little story of what happened
to

37:56.940 --> 38:04.140
me when I was in Asda, the
supermarket shopping today. I
got to the coffee bowl and saw
the Sanseo

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and said Sanseo and burps. Just
like that. I didn't need to burp
before. It just said the words

38:09.980 --> 38:18.140
and about came out. Something
very, very powerful in what
you're doing, isn't it? But that
is

38:18.140 --> 38:24.140
its powerful asmojo, man. I'm
telling you. So, okay, everyone
pay attention. Sanseo,

38:25.980 --> 38:31.900
how many of you burped? Hey,
Adam. This is Travis Goss. The
host and executive producer of

38:31.900 --> 38:39.340
the Ungradio show. And, well, I
need me a little bit of help
here. No, I've asked for help a
lot

38:39.340 --> 38:45.900
times for me and really didn't
get much of anything. So,
whenever you have a sense say a
moment,

38:45.900 --> 38:50.220
can you plug the Ungradio show?
You've done it for Don Drew and
everybody else. When you have

38:50.220 --> 38:56.460
a sense say a moment. So, what
about me? You know, I've been a
listener to yours since episode

38:56.460 --> 39:02.540
3-4-2. I know I'm a late bloomer
right here. Better late than
never. But, you know, hey,

39:02.540 --> 39:08.220
this whenever you have a sense
say a moment, take of me
because, walk quite frankly, the
numbers

39:08.220 --> 39:16.620
haven't low this month. You
know, these were a listening
feeling a little bit insecure of
myself

39:16.620 --> 39:23.660
and, you know, I need to know
that I matter. I mean, it's no
that the show or that I have

39:23.740 --> 39:30.860
is going to be doing just well.
So, I said say a moment,
probably be very uplifting and
make

39:30.860 --> 39:37.660
going people want to listen
because whenever you have a
sense say a moment, it's like a
golden hand

39:38.780 --> 39:45.980
touches something that was once
dead and brings it back to life.
Oh yes. Okay, that was where you

39:46.060 --> 39:50.860
were done. Yeah, that made it
very frightening. But anyways,
hey, make me help me out since

39:50.860 --> 39:55.420
day and moment. You know, in a
radio show, we're on iTunes,
podcast alley. We even have an
online

39:55.420 --> 40:02.700
shop now, which can be found at
cafepress.com slash on radio
shop. We got t-shirts, I had,

40:02.700 --> 40:13.820
button, even got a teddy bear.
So, how about it? Yeah, how
about it? Well, you got your
plug there,

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my friend. I don't have to burp.
I'm sorry. I don't know what it
is. There's no burp

40:17.020 --> 40:22.940
just today. I'll just go back to
the video again for Katrina. We
met some guys, actually a

40:22.940 --> 40:29.180
methamenpebble beach when we
were at the Clienter Perkins
conference from this company
called

40:29.180 --> 40:36.460
onetruemedia.com and I had heard
of them before and hadn't really
paid attention to what they

40:36.460 --> 40:43.660
were doing. And actually I
played golf. I remember I had
the horrendous 14 holes

40:43.980 --> 40:49.100
of golf. Where everyone hid
behind the cart when I was
teeing off. So, Mark from
onetruemedia

40:49.100 --> 40:55.500
came to the office yesterday
with John CEO of the company.
Wow, man, where are we a match

40:55.500 --> 41:01.020
mate in heaven? This is
beautiful stuff. You should
check it out because they have
an online

41:01.020 --> 41:07.900
video editing tool. Now, they
say they have at least another
year, maybe two years of
development,

41:07.900 --> 41:12.940
you know, to really get all
kinds of great effects and
stuff. But, um, and I was a
little bit

41:12.940 --> 41:17.420
skeptical about it until I tried
it out. In fact, I will try to
do something with the Katrina

41:17.420 --> 41:25.020
video myself today. Basically,
you just upload video and then
you can edit the video, the
sequence,

41:25.020 --> 41:29.980
you can put pictures in, you can
add different sound. A very,
very simple and effective way to

41:30.700 --> 41:36.460
yeah, to basically mix and mash
and create a video. And, of
course, what we talked about is

41:36.460 --> 41:42.700
hooking it up to the podcast
delivery network. Very similar,
in fact, to what a cast blast

41:42.700 --> 41:48.300
does for audio. So, um, you
should check that out and go
take a look at it and, uh, let
me know what

41:48.300 --> 41:52.540
you think. And, well, you'll let
me know what you think by
sending something in or not or
creating

41:52.540 --> 41:57.180
something for the Katrina,
Katrina video. Not just another
piece of the stuff. We'll have
every

41:57.180 --> 42:01.820
single day, there's a new piece
of opportunity. And, for the
first time in quite a while,

42:02.540 --> 42:09.500
it seems like the comments on
curry.com are synchronizing with
the audio on the daily source
code.

42:09.580 --> 42:16.860
Yeah, everything's kind of going
in parallel now. And the whole
impetus for this is that I was
talking

42:16.860 --> 42:22.940
about getting a Sony Vio laptop.
Now, there are many different
models and versions,

42:22.940 --> 42:29.660
all very complicated letters and
number combinations. But
essentially, Ron and I decided
it was best

42:29.660 --> 42:34.700
if, uh, if I got the same one he
has, which is a high-end one. It
doesn't really matter to me.

42:34.700 --> 42:40.140
I just want a faster processor.
Um, but the reason, of course,
is so that I can be his help
desk,

42:40.140 --> 42:43.980
which I've been for 12 years
now. So, I'm used to it. I don't
mind. Because if I say, hey, you
know,

42:43.980 --> 42:50.700
that thing that's not working on
our computers, how do I fix
that? Um, but apparently, the
fact

42:50.700 --> 43:00.300
that it's made in Japan has
rubbed someone the wrong way.
Comic strip. Comic strip. Comic
strip.

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Comic strip. Comic strip. Comic
strip.

43:06.940 --> 43:14.860
Check it out what he has to say.
All hail. So, I don't carry. Do
you care about Wales? No,

43:14.860 --> 43:22.300
I don't mean those ship
shaggers, who is the only ethnic
group in UK, preserved the
original

43:22.300 --> 43:27.660
Celtic language. Do you got to
be so careful when you say comic
strip blogger? I mean Wales.

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Those big fees that are mamas.
Since you and your boyfriend,
your own bloom,

43:34.380 --> 43:39.900
use now Japanese notebooks. And
you want to buy new Japanese
notebook. Maybe you and

43:39.900 --> 43:47.100
whole where it should know that
Japanese won't kill Wales by
forcing small nations, even
those

43:47.100 --> 43:54.300
without access to flipping sea
to vote for a resuming of where
hunting. Japanese are succilling

43:55.180 --> 44:04.220
if you care about Wales, you
shouldn't buy Japanese products.
So, do you really care about
Wales?

44:05.180 --> 44:13.660
Or about other issues that
bother all those three hugging
hippies from Greenpeace? I don't
think so.

44:14.380 --> 44:21.500
Proof me wrong. By playing this
audio comment. Anyway, here you
like the podcast creator.

44:22.140 --> 44:27.100
It was all over the news last
night. I have to admit, right on
topic there.

44:28.860 --> 44:33.500
Even the Daily Show had a whole
bit on what Japan is. I haven't
read into the material and I've

44:33.500 --> 44:40.380
learned long ago not to form an
opinion based upon what you see
on television, essentially.

44:41.660 --> 44:46.700
I think that that may be going a
little bit too far to boycott
the Sony.

44:47.180 --> 44:52.780
Sony owns most of America, dude,
in case you didn't know. Now,
I'm not to share about the

44:52.780 --> 44:59.100
whale issue, but I will
certainly look into it. Hello,
I'm calling from Wales. I
figured that

44:59.100 --> 45:04.860
since as a recent convert to
your show, I give it a shot and
see what you thought of a real

45:04.860 --> 45:10.220
Welsh accent. So, from South
Wales can be packed in my cafe
again and present, waiting to go
and see

45:10.220 --> 45:15.820
a film. Can't you say go to
watch it? And I'm absolutely
bursting for a pee. Anyway,
there has

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a said in a recent convert and I
kind of like the show, I think.
It's the only reason why I

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stayed behind to save a clock
and work so they can download
the show until I knock you and
then

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have a listen while I'm going
down the M4. So, you look after
yourself, hello to everyone and
bye-bye.

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Happy pudding, see you all.
Happy pudding back at you.
That's the real whales. It's
pretty interesting

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how they, I believe that the use
of the Welsh is it a language or
is it dialect? I'm not quite
sure.

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It's, you know, the more and
more people are starting to
speak it. I wouldn't mind
learning a

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little bit. There's a couple of
Welsh podcasts and believe me,
we'll be featuring those when we

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unleashed in the UK as well.
I've learned one thing about the
UK. People do not want the
impression

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that, you know, all the good
stuff comes from London and
there's a lot of good stuff that
does

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not come from London in the UK.
A lot of great football does not
come from London in the UK.

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So, we're definitely learning a
lot about, I'm learning a lot
about the diversity of the

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country. I got to make a few
trips, man. I got to fly around
in the UK. Let that be high on
the

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agenda for the next couple of
weeks when I'm back at the
cottage. I'll drum up Jason
who'll be

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my safety pilot for who is my
safety pilot for inland flights
and we'll fly to some other
places.

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Maybe we'll meet some people. I
got to learn more about this
country. Seeing as I live there
and

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have the time. Two things that
have been raging in the debate
in the blogosphere.

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Let's see, I don't know if you
read about this story, the world
intellectual property
organization

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is trying to pass some
legislation. Now, here's the
story as it's kind of being
paraphrased

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in reporting on the internet. I
did take the time to go to the
world into the weepo. Weepo,

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the world intellectual property
organization, and read the
actual proposal, which was man,

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Jersey Todd helped me out. This
thing was so full of legalese.
It wasn't funny.

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So, the way it's been and I
think I understand it now. What
is being reported on now and
there's a petition?

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There's a podcast of petition,
in fact. You can find that, I'll
put a link in the show notes.

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There's a petition that was a
couple of podcast guilds and I
didn't know that there was,

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I knew there was the UK podcast
association or guild or
something, but there's one in
Germany

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and there's a couple other from
around the world. They've come
together and they said,

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we have to stop this
legislation. Now, basically, the
reason why people are crying,

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follow over this is because
there is a secondary effect that
this legislation could have and

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then I want to talk about what I
think the legislation is really
for. In effect, this legislation

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says is that if a television,
I'll just take the simplest
example. If a television
network,

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broadcasts anything, regardless,
even if they use the snippet in
fair use as a news item,

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a snippet of the daily source
code, they would, in effect, own
that. So, the transmission of
that,

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they will own anywhere on
broadcast television, on radio,
but also on the internet for 50
years.

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So, you know, it's clear that,
well, it's clear that that is a
huge issue when it comes to

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pod save music, you know,
creative commons, my personal
copyright over anything that I
produce.

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I think the intent of the law is
what we really should be looking
at because this is going to

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change number of businesses that
are quite popular right now. If
I understand correctly and I
could

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be wrong, but I really, I did
put some time into it to read
this stuff. This is about
something

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called signal theft. And when
you think about it, it takes a
lot of infrastructure to, and of

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course, this is why
protectionist laws are put in
place. It takes a lot of
infrastructure to get

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a television signal to you. And
you may not even be seeing that
television signal necessarily

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on a television. It may come
through the internet. It could
be a digital version of this
signal

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that is streamed or a snippet
that ABC or NBC or CNN or some
other three letter acronym

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puts up on the internet. And I
believe that this legislation is
a shot across the bow of sites
like

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YouTube and Revere and other
viral video websites. Because,
you know, if you, if I had a

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dime for every person that says,
I don't watch television
anymore. I just go to YouTube
and

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type in a search term and it
brings up that news report or
that skit or that particular
thing I

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wanted to see. Now, that is
where the signal theft is taking
place. And I do understand the
television

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networks and where they're
coming from because it costs a
lot of money to, to get this
signal out.

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Even if they're using other
people's copyrighted works with
their permission, of course,

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to create their signal. See it
almost as a mashup. You know,
I'm using all kinds of,

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all kinds of elements. In fact,
maybe 70% of my show is created
by other people. It's pot-sake

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music or it's comments or
whatever. And everyone retains
their own copyright. Now, in
this case,

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I want distribution. I want
people to listen to this show. I
want them to copy it. It has
tremendous

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benefit to me. It has benefit to
the people who contribute to the
program, which includes
advertisers.

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But if I were old school and
mainstream, then I would
probably say, hey, I don't want
anyone touching

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this. I don't want it. It's
almost the same as the record
companies. We can't put a free
and clear

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MP3 out there. So this is about
theft of signal. Because you're
basically, and this is coming

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from the television networks
perspective, you're riding on
the back of their investment to
utilize

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this content. Even if, excuse
me, senseo on radio show. There
you go. I did it.

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And I believe that it is a piece
of legislation that essentially
will be used to try and shut
down

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sites like YouTube. If I'm
wrong, let me know. But I don't
think that this is necessarily
meant as a

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malicious attack against
copyright in general. Although
it can be misconstrued that way.
So I think

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let them have it. Let them have
their signal protection. Because
we all agree, it's fun to watch
it on

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YouTube. But if the network
doesn't put the video up
themselves of the Saturday Night
Live

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skit, it's in violation. We all
understand that. It may not be
fun, but it's in violation. So
that's

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their right to put that up. And
of course, they would also have
to clear that with the
individual

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copyright holders, if they have
the right to even put that
online at all. Because often
those

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rights are not associated with
broadcast rights. So maybe, and
maybe I do have to call on our

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musicologist and our Jersey Todd
official attorney of the show to
give me a little more insight

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and perspective on this. Just it
seems like we're all yelling and
shouting about the wrong thing
here.

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And then one other topic, and
then I will shut down actually
this will end with the song.

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I just messed up my outline
here. I do that. Okay, here we
go. It's crap.

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Here it is. The whole net
neutrality debate. Now, I think
we were talking about this about
this

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on a daily source code way
before Boeing Boeing started
talking about it. And this is,
and actually

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it hit when the chairman of SBC
said, hey, you know, we feel
that we're putting all in all
this

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infrastructure and all these
pipes and we're basically
building a huge network for
other people

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to make money with and with
other people, I believe, is
referring to Google and Yahoo.
And in a way,

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it could also be Pod Show. And
that those providers of content
would have to pay an additional

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fee for the high speed delivery
to the home, which commercially,
I guess, if you think about it,

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it's their right. Now, the
overall conversation, of course,
is about something called net
neutrality,

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meaning that anyone should be
able to access anything on the
internet, if it's made of freely

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available, there should no be
certain, there shouldn't be any
surcharges on either the
consumer side

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or on the provider side, because
essentially they're already
paying for the bandwidth. Again,

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I think we may not have all the
information. I think that there
are some rights, if SBC is
putting

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in huge infrastructure for
better, faster network, they can
certainly try in charge,
whatever they

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want for, they're not a
monopoly, they're big, I'll give
you that, but they're not a
monopoly,

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there are other networks. So, I
think competition is, and I
don't see anything
anti-competitive

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about this, I think that's the
way to solve these issues. If
AT&T is charging too much,

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like if Comcast charge it too
much for my internet access, I
get another provider,

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I would actually consider
Earthling. If I don't know if I
can get that here, probably
can't,

54:47.500 --> 54:50.540
I should actually, I should
actually, I should get
Earthling, I should be smoking
our own dope,

54:50.540 --> 54:58.540
shouldn't I? So, there's a lot
of pile jumping going on, and
again, I'm not totally convinced

54:58.540 --> 55:02.540
that this is going to be
horrible and bad for the
internet. I don't jump all over
my shit,

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because again, I think that
competition plays a huge role
here, and we're not necessarily

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abided by whatever SBC says. We
just aren't. There are other
networks that the traffic can

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travel over. If those networks
aren't fast enough or good
enough, you have two choices.

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You know, get more people to
work with the alternative
networks and build them up and
help

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them get the billions they need
to fill out the infrastructure
or someone has to pay,

55:27.900 --> 55:35.100
look, someone has to pay
somewhere sometime. Ben with is
just not for free. Ask any
podcaster

55:35.100 --> 55:39.660
who's, you know, who all of a
sudden gets a hate of success,
and they're on their, you know,

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web hosting account, and all of
a sudden, if a couple thousand
people show up, you run out of

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bandwidth, and you know, it's
not free. The stuff is just not
free. We want to think it's
free,

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because blogging is so virtually
free, but that uses up so little
bandwidth. In fact, we already

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have this whole net neutrality
situation with the cell phone
carriers. I mean, we can do
incredibly

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cool stuff with networks. We can
send all kinds of great things
down the pipeline, but you have

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no access. You have no direct
access to the cell phone
networks, because you got to go
through

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the cell phone operators, and
they will charge your nuts off
to get anything onto their
network.

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This is why, yeah, sure. We can
do some things, and, you know,
if, if you want, you can
certainly

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download a podcast through your
3G mobile, but then look at your
bandwidth bill at the end of the
day,

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or at the end of the month. It's
going to be humongous because,
yeah, you really only get a gig
in

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and they have all these
fit-quote fair use policies of
how much you can down. There is
no free

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lunch in this world. So, you
know, something immediate, yeah,
maybe SBC will do this in the
future,

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but something really immediate
when it comes to net neutrality
is the darn cell phone
operators.

56:55.900 --> 57:01.340
The network operators are,
they're, I'm not going to say
they're evil, but they are
definitely

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not playing a fair game for
anyone to just do something,
because they're protecting their
network,

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because they'd like to charge
for, well, look, here, here's a
perfect example. What do you pay
for

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a text message? How much do you
pay? 5 cents, 10 cents? 1 cents?
I don't care. You can't, you
can't,

57:18.780 --> 57:27.500
almost can't measure what that
costs. It's so low. It's
0.0000001 dollar to actually
send that

57:27.500 --> 57:33.580
text message over the network.
But what's happening? Net
neutrality kicks in, which there
isn't any,

57:34.540 --> 57:41.020
and you pay 10 cents to send a
text message. So, this is not
something new. You know, this
is,

57:41.020 --> 57:47.340
and by the way, the cell phone
company spent billions, billions
on their networks. They have to

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make it back somehow. So, if I
have to pay a little bit extra,
I'm used to it. Do I want to
know?

57:57.260 --> 58:01.900
Do I like the fact that someone
has actually made a song about
this whole thing? Well, yeah,

58:02.540 --> 58:12.300
course I do. Hey, Mr. Telecom,
man. God say the internet. Don't
change my reality.

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[ Music ]

01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:40.960
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah

01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:42.160
I'm gonna go out there

01:01:42.160 --> 01:01:42.800
Okay

01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:44.000
I'll say it, yeah

01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:45.200
I'll say it, yeah

01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:47.440
I love it when people are
creative

01:01:48.800 --> 01:01:51.920
But this is, it's a bit over the
top Britney Spears

01:01:51.920 --> 01:01:52.880
What does he have to do with it?

01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:56.640
It's almost like an American
folk song

01:01:56.640 --> 01:01:59.920
The good old US god save the
internet

01:01:59.920 --> 01:02:02.240
Internet ain't going anywhere,
come on

01:02:03.040 --> 01:02:05.520
I'm gonna also alarmist if
you're against this stuff

01:02:05.520 --> 01:02:08.160
Find a representative you can
vote for

01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:11.520
And call the other guy and tell
him why you're gonna vote for
some other person

01:02:11.520 --> 01:02:15.040
That's what works you, we all
have voter fatigue in this
country

01:02:15.040 --> 01:02:19.360
I like the fact that you're
making songs and we have all
kinds of groovy protests

01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:21.680
But, you know, get into the
political system

01:02:21.680 --> 01:02:23.680
That's how you want to do it

01:02:28.720 --> 01:02:30.640
Ten cents per text message,
okay?

01:02:30.640 --> 01:02:32.160
That's a bigger problem right
now

01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:35.920
You know, we're being, look at
your cell phone bill at the end
of the month

01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:39.120
It's ten times your internet
bill, ten times

01:02:40.080 --> 01:02:41.680
And, you know, why?

01:02:41.680 --> 01:02:44.000
Well, because these guys got to
recoup their investment

01:02:44.640 --> 01:02:47.280
And if you feel that they've
recoup their investment far
enough

01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:53.840
You know, and that they're just
ripping you off go to another
provider vote with your wallet
vote with your vote

01:02:54.640 --> 01:02:58.000
Oh, hey, that's it for today.
I'm off to the office

01:02:58.240 --> 01:03:00.640
I think we got another game
starting in just minutes

01:03:00.640 --> 01:03:05.120
So I'll continue to watch the
football and I appreciate all of
you for tuning in

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