WEBVTT 00:01.000 --> 00:03.000 Think Advertising sucks. 00:03.000 --> 00:05.000 Think you can do better? 00:05.000 --> 00:09.000 Pod Show and EarthLink are willing to put our money where your mouth is. 00:09.000 --> 00:15.000 Listen to this podcast or go to adchelens.podshow.com to see how you can win big 00:15.000 --> 00:19.000 in the EarthLink make advertising better challenge. 00:21.000 --> 00:25.000 Delta Sierra Charlie 412 00:26.000 --> 00:28.000 I know for our job but listeners. 00:28.000 --> 00:29.000 Back in the dust. 00:29.000 --> 00:30.000 I'm calling to the show. 00:30.000 --> 00:31.000 I need you for show. 00:31.000 --> 00:33.000 I've got a mental picture. 00:33.000 --> 00:34.000 We're on the show. 00:34.000 --> 00:38.000 I'm on the show. 00:38.000 --> 00:39.000 I'm on the show. 00:39.000 --> 00:40.000 I'm on the show. 00:40.000 --> 00:41.000 We need you for show. 00:41.000 --> 00:43.000 We're gonna be with the police. 00:43.000 --> 00:44.000 If we all work together. 00:44.000 --> 00:45.000 I'm on the show. 00:45.000 --> 00:46.000 We're on a small minority. 00:46.000 --> 00:48.000 We're gonna make like misery for their neighbours. 00:48.000 --> 00:49.000 And communities. 00:49.000 --> 00:50.000 I'm on the show. 00:50.000 --> 00:52.000 These types of learning that the rules are changing. 00:52.000 --> 00:53.000 We're on the show. 00:54.000 --> 00:56.000 I kid, I only do autograph after the show. 00:56.000 --> 00:57.000 Welcome to the show. 00:57.000 --> 01:01.000 It was $16 million worth of airplane strapped to my ass. 01:01.000 --> 01:04.000 I'm in the next generation radio content in my ears. 01:04.000 --> 01:07.000 We don't need non-sticky in prison. 01:07.000 --> 01:10.000 I like to think I'm flying into the future. 01:10.000 --> 01:13.000 I'm guessing it's a fellow curry. 01:16.250 --> 04:33.750 [ Music ] 04:42.000 --> 04:47.000 I was a cousin through PMN this morning, I just could not resist 04:47.000 --> 04:50.000 Y'all's up 04:50.000 --> 04:53.000 From New Jersey, of course, we're out 04:53.000 --> 04:55.000 Love it, love it, love it 04:55.000 --> 05:03.000 Although I must say, you know, I don't think there's one single woman in the world that I can't find some fantastic beauty in 05:03.000 --> 05:08.000 There's no such thing as nine kinds of ugly, but that's song did crack me up, no doubt about it 05:08.000 --> 05:09.000 Everybody, how are you doing? 05:09.000 --> 05:14.000 Coming to you from the curry cottage in the affluent suburb of Surrey known as Gilford the United Kingdom 05:14.000 --> 05:21.000 It's the Daily Source Code, I'm out of curry and here for the next foreseeable two weeks at least 05:21.000 --> 05:24.000 Before stuff starts to happen again, but good to be home 05:24.000 --> 05:29.000 Of course, got Christina with her with her knee 05:29.000 --> 05:32.000 Yeah, they're hissing, I want to try something for a second, hold on 05:32.000 --> 05:33.000 How's that? 05:33.000 --> 05:36.000 You know, I think I'm gonna leave it like that, I think that sounds better 05:36.000 --> 05:40.000 Yeah, so we have Christina with a knee she did go to school this morning, man 05:40.000 --> 05:46.000 It's like she has a little mini knee growing out of her, out of her leg there, it's quite amazing 05:46.000 --> 05:53.000 I'll tell you right up front, I'm a little bit, I'll just say, this combobulated today 05:53.000 --> 05:55.000 I had a long chat with my mom last night 05:55.000 --> 05:59.000 And those of you who have not been listening to the source code for a long time 05:59.000 --> 06:03.000 My mom is suffering from lung cancer 06:03.000 --> 06:10.000 This has been ongoing for two years and it's quite an outrageous unfair disadvantage 06:10.000 --> 06:16.000 Fight that she's taken on here, or has been thrust upon her 06:16.000 --> 06:22.000 And yeah, it's the conversation I had with her yesterday 06:22.000 --> 06:27.000 It's just so hard to hear someone, you know, she's going through an anger phase right now 06:27.000 --> 06:29.000 Which is totally understandable 06:30.000 --> 06:34.000 But it just it really throws you out of sorts, you know, because you're not quite sure how to respond 06:34.000 --> 06:39.000 And so anyway, so I just want you know that has influenced me a little bit today 06:39.000 --> 06:43.000 I woke up this morning still thinking about it, of course, as I do probably every morning 06:43.000 --> 06:47.000 But it's good to know not we're not alone in this and thank all of you for 06:47.000 --> 06:53.000 For sending in your own personal stories and your thoughts and prayers, et cetera 06:53.000 --> 06:55.000 Now let's get back to porn and stuff like that 06:56.000 --> 07:02.000 Actually, today I believe is the vote in the house on the net neutrality bill 07:02.000 --> 07:05.000 And I've talked about this 07:05.000 --> 07:09.000 It's really it's one of these very interesting phenomenon 07:09.000 --> 07:14.000 That is just coursing through the veins of the internet as it so happens 07:14.000 --> 07:17.000 And the memes are fantastic, you know, save the internet 07:17.000 --> 07:20.000 Which I think is probably the one you hear the most 07:21.000 --> 07:26.000 That big companies are going to take away the power from the little man 07:26.000 --> 07:30.000 That it's no longer will you be able to reach spots 07:30.000 --> 07:34.000 There'll be, you know, it will only be mainstream media all of these things 07:34.000 --> 07:40.000 And I've really done a lot of investigation, a lot of reading, a lot of understanding 07:40.000 --> 07:43.000 Man, if you look at the actual telecom's bill 07:43.000 --> 07:48.000 And the main thing in the telecom's bill is I understand it is that it now allows 07:49.000 --> 07:55.000 Telephones companies to compete with the cable companies in the television access 07:55.000 --> 07:59.000 Which of course is all kind of subjective, what is television, you know 07:59.000 --> 08:03.000 Let's just they're calling a television which means something else I believe 08:03.000 --> 08:07.000 And we just call it video or programed or serialized video 08:07.000 --> 08:10.000 But that's the main part, the main crux of the of the bill 08:10.000 --> 08:15.000 And so this is a amendment that is that several groups are trying to get onto 08:16.000 --> 08:18.000 It's interesting one of the groups is 08:18.000 --> 08:20.000 Oh, what is it? 08:20.000 --> 08:22.000 So it's saved the internet.org 08:22.000 --> 08:27.000 Yeah, you see a whole bunch of companies that have signed up 08:27.000 --> 08:30.000 And that are for the petition over I think a million signatures 08:30.000 --> 08:34.000 Actually, which is quite well signature signups, which is very good 08:34.000 --> 08:37.000 That's actually valuable by Silicon Valley terms 08:37.000 --> 08:41.000 To have a community of a million people as worth some real money 08:42.000 --> 08:46.000 What's funny though is I maybe I misread it or didn't see it 08:46.000 --> 08:50.000 But I don't see Google or Yahoo or any of those companies signing up for this 08:50.000 --> 08:56.000 Nor do I see any of their own initiatives other than what they're doing at a high level political and high level political venues 08:57.000 --> 08:59.000 So anyway 08:59.000 --> 09:02.000 I disagree that 09:02.000 --> 09:07.000 That we need net neutrality or some kind of legislation for something that actually has not happened yet 09:07.000 --> 09:10.000 That to me is almost un-American in a way 09:10.000 --> 09:16.000 To start putting laws into place on some positions of something that may happen in the future 09:16.000 --> 09:21.000 That we're not really completely sure of no one can say it with any certainty or accuracy 09:21.000 --> 09:24.000 So I have a fundamental issue with that 09:24.000 --> 09:25.000 But also I just don't believe it 09:25.000 --> 09:31.000 I think that the people who are most people don't understand how the internet works 09:31.000 --> 09:34.000 And it's not I'm not saying that I understand it 09:34.000 --> 09:39.000 I have been in the business of data centers and peering and internet exchanges and BGP 09:39.000 --> 09:45.000 Boardergate we protocol and peering and how all these things fit together 09:45.000 --> 09:49.000 And it's a very very complex matter 09:49.000 --> 09:55.000 And the internet is always kind of hung together and grown by commercial parties connecting 09:55.000 --> 09:58.000 And I've been around long enough to remember 09:58.000 --> 10:04.000 When you can actually tell the difference when you had you know bad peerage or you were going through a horrible route 10:04.000 --> 10:10.000 To your ISP wasn't connected to enough other or to sufficient backbone, etc 10:10.000 --> 10:16.000 And I don't even think that experts can clearly explain it 10:16.000 --> 10:18.000 It's such incredibly geeky stuff 10:18.000 --> 10:23.000 But I truly believe that in open free markets and I think that it will 10:24.000 --> 10:28.000 That we will not have any issues and actually I want to talk a little bit more about it 10:28.000 --> 10:31.000 But I got some feedback. I got a ton of feedback actually 10:31.000 --> 10:35.000 This one really hit the nail on the head on what I believe is happening with this 10:35.000 --> 10:38.000 That is zero for the area 51 group one more call 10:38.000 --> 10:40.000 The neutrality thing 10:40.000 --> 10:43.000 I just got that listening to your full explanation of it 10:43.000 --> 10:45.000 And you make it really hard to argue with you 10:45.000 --> 10:47.000 I don't want to argue with you 10:47.000 --> 10:49.000 We're not arguing about the same thing 10:49.000 --> 10:50.000 Don't argue 10:51.000 --> 10:54.000 The high speed bandwidth is going to pay for it if you really want to 10:54.000 --> 10:56.000 This is not what the argument is about 10:56.000 --> 10:58.000 That's all fine and good 10:58.000 --> 11:02.000 And anybody who is running fiber and boosting your network etc 11:02.000 --> 11:06.000 I'm talking about executives from major telecom companies saying 11:06.000 --> 11:09.000 Google is making a mint 11:09.000 --> 11:13.000 Because they are using our pipes and we want a piece of it 11:13.000 --> 11:16.000 That's what everybody is talking about 11:16.000 --> 11:18.000 Fantastic 11:18.000 --> 11:21.000 You've nailed this piece of it right on the head 11:23.000 --> 11:26.000 Without trying to get into that whole cloud thing again 11:26.000 --> 11:28.000 Whenever you see a presentation about the internet 11:28.000 --> 11:30.000 And how wonderful things will work 11:30.000 --> 11:32.000 There's always this cloud drawing in the middle 11:32.000 --> 11:34.000 Is the internet stupid 11:34.000 --> 11:36.000 And it just kind of works 11:36.000 --> 11:38.000 But there is a lot that happens there 11:38.000 --> 11:43.000 And you have to understand that if Google all of a sudden 11:44.000 --> 11:46.000 Let's take a pod show as an example 11:46.000 --> 11:47.000 That'll be much easier 11:47.000 --> 11:50.000 So maybe now we have in a month 11:50.000 --> 11:54.000 I don't know anywhere between eight and nine million downloads 11:57.000 --> 11:59.000 That will grow 11:59.000 --> 12:00.000 And as that number grows 12:00.000 --> 12:04.000 That traffic is being put on to different networks 12:04.000 --> 12:06.000 And big networks like AT&T 12:06.000 --> 12:11.000 Or SBC or whatever it is or Verizon or you name it 12:11.000 --> 12:14.000 Actually have to start upgrading their gear 12:14.000 --> 12:18.000 In order to handle the traffic that we're sending through 12:18.000 --> 12:21.000 And which is kind of normal 12:21.000 --> 12:23.000 We have to upgrade our gear because we've got a lot 12:23.000 --> 12:26.000 And we're connecting directly to their networks 12:26.000 --> 12:28.000 Remember that at a higher level 12:28.000 --> 12:31.000 In fact we're seeing more and more of this 12:31.000 --> 12:35.000 That's how the podcast delivery network differs from many other systems 12:35.000 --> 12:38.000 Is we actually connect to directly to one of their machines 12:38.000 --> 12:41.000 Don't traverse over any other parts of the internet 12:41.000 --> 12:42.000 Of course that connection by itself 12:42.000 --> 12:45.000 Is an interconnection and therefore a part of the internet 12:45.000 --> 12:47.000 So we have to buy upgrade stuff 12:47.000 --> 12:50.000 Or our partner does in this case line-light networks 12:50.000 --> 12:53.000 And AT&T has to do the same thing 12:53.000 --> 12:55.000 Now what I believe AT&T is saying is 12:55.000 --> 12:56.000 Hey, you know what? 12:56.000 --> 12:58.000 We're going to leapfrog here 12:58.000 --> 13:00.000 We're going to try and get up to par with Europe and with Asia 13:00.000 --> 13:01.000 Which is a very good idea 13:01.000 --> 13:04.000 Excuse me, since sail this sense sail moment 13:04.000 --> 13:06.000 Brought to you by the jersey touch show 13:06.000 --> 13:09.000 So you know it's critical because we want to you know 13:09.000 --> 13:11.000 We're all used to these small little video clips 13:11.000 --> 13:13.000 Which is nice but you know is that the end of the road 13:13.000 --> 13:16.000 Or do we want to have better quality more capability 13:16.000 --> 13:18.000 Faster reaction times? 13:18.000 --> 13:19.000 Of course we do 13:19.000 --> 13:21.000 So I believe what SBC is saying 13:21.000 --> 13:23.000 Or the chairman said quite clearly 13:23.000 --> 13:26.000 Hey, if you're going to shove all this traffic on to us 13:26.000 --> 13:28.000 You know, there's going to be a charge 13:28.000 --> 13:31.000 And at no point that I hear him say if you don't pay 13:31.000 --> 13:33.000 We're not going to pass anything through 13:33.000 --> 13:35.000 But yeah, there will be priority 13:36.000 --> 13:38.000 But you know there's priority in this priority 13:38.000 --> 13:40.000 When you think priority you immediately think 13:40.000 --> 13:42.000 A home man it's like waiting in the doctor's office 13:42.000 --> 13:43.000 I could be shoved to the back of the line 13:43.000 --> 13:44.000 Waiting for 45 minutes 13:44.000 --> 13:47.000 You know this is very this is milliseconds stuff 13:47.000 --> 13:49.000 Micro second stuff 13:49.000 --> 13:51.000 So don't get too freaked out about it 13:51.000 --> 13:53.000 But I think that's a good point 13:53.000 --> 13:56.000 That you know we just got more traffic 13:56.000 --> 13:58.000 There are several main sources that are indeed 13:58.000 --> 14:00.000 Making money off of it 14:00.000 --> 14:03.000 And if there's you know 14:04.000 --> 14:06.000 SBC rating doesn't want to pass all of their 14:06.000 --> 14:08.000 Costs onto their customers 14:08.000 --> 14:11.000 We'll say indirectly we'll do over time 14:11.000 --> 14:14.000 So they're looking at the other side of the equation 14:14.000 --> 14:16.000 I really don't see anything wrong with that 14:16.000 --> 14:19.000 If if you're Google size 14:19.000 --> 14:21.000 Then you will probably have to deal with that 14:21.000 --> 14:24.000 If you're not then I don't think you're going to have any problem 14:24.000 --> 14:27.000 This is not about shutting everything else off 14:27.000 --> 14:29.000 This is about huge volumes of traffic 14:29.000 --> 14:32.000 Coming from single sources that have to be dealt with 14:32.000 --> 14:35.000 The technical manner and that dealing with it takes money 14:35.000 --> 14:37.000 They're going to double charge Google 14:37.000 --> 14:38.000 They're going to find other ways 14:38.000 --> 14:40.000 So it's not double charging 14:40.000 --> 14:42.000 They're not charging Google 14:42.000 --> 14:45.000 They're going to offer an extended service 14:45.000 --> 14:46.000 I'm quite sure of this 14:46.000 --> 14:49.000 I'm really not freaked out about the internet dying overnight 14:49.000 --> 14:52.000 Do this and they're going to hurt the internet in the process 14:52.000 --> 14:54.000 That's what this whole thing is about 14:54.000 --> 14:58.000 I think it's gotten confused with this whole new plan to tear 14:58.000 --> 15:01.000 And people hear the two things they're talking about the same thing 15:01.000 --> 15:03.000 It's not that you're at all 15:03.000 --> 15:06.000 They don't come guys or look at a drive Google out of business 15:06.000 --> 15:09.000 No, they're not trying to drive them out of business 15:09.000 --> 15:11.000 That would be ludicrous 15:11.000 --> 15:13.000 That would be stupid 15:13.000 --> 15:15.000 It's like you know we're the drug dealer 15:15.000 --> 15:17.000 And we're going to remove the drug supply 15:17.000 --> 15:20.000 No, no, no, no, that's not what they're trying to do 15:20.000 --> 15:22.000 They're trying to recoup on their investment 15:22.000 --> 15:23.000 For passing it through 15:23.000 --> 15:26.000 And Google you're wondering why they're building up dark fiber 15:26.000 --> 15:29.000 Well, that's because they're going to go directly to the consumer 15:29.000 --> 15:32.000 The competition is right there in front of your noses 15:32.000 --> 15:34.000 All right, it's looking to hurt the customer 15:34.000 --> 15:36.000 They don't like the internet at all 15:36.000 --> 15:38.000 I think that's what this whole thing is about 15:38.000 --> 15:40.000 If there's nothing there, much to do about nothing 15:40.000 --> 15:43.000 Great, great, we can go on as we were 15:43.000 --> 15:47.000 But those of us who are kind of paranoid conspiracy theories 15:47.000 --> 15:52.000 Think the companies don't like little guys standing at hands 15:52.000 --> 15:55.000 And they'll hurt us when they can 15:55.000 --> 15:57.000 I think that's what this whole thing's about 15:57.000 --> 15:58.000 Thanks a lot 15:58.000 --> 15:59.000 See you 15:59.000 --> 16:02.000 Okay, so what you said there is really what it's about 16:02.000 --> 16:04.000 But it's not really about big companies 16:04.000 --> 16:06.000 Not caring about little guys 16:06.000 --> 16:08.000 That's bullshit, that's a customers 16:08.000 --> 16:12.000 If anything, the big guys would like to convert their customers 16:12.000 --> 16:14.000 into audience, they'd love to be television networks 16:14.000 --> 16:16.000 And I've dealt with the cable guys 16:16.000 --> 16:18.000 They all think that their HBO 16:18.000 --> 16:20.000 They're just trench diggers 16:20.000 --> 16:23.000 That's what we call them in the broadcast industry 16:23.000 --> 16:26.000 Sorry, if you're offended, but you know we say it 16:26.000 --> 16:29.000 No, this is about something inherent in the end 16:29.000 --> 16:31.000 By the way, this is only United States 16:31.000 --> 16:35.000 The internet, when people say the internet is going to die 16:35.000 --> 16:37.000 It could live without the United States 16:37.000 --> 16:39.000 Okay, there would still be a thriving internet 16:39.000 --> 16:41.000 And lots of people would be very happy 16:41.000 --> 16:43.000 Yeah, we'd miss a lot 16:43.000 --> 16:47.000 But it's not the internet by itself 16:47.000 --> 16:51.000 Nor is SBC the only backbone provider, et cetera 16:51.000 --> 16:53.000 There isn't inherent fear in the United States 16:53.000 --> 16:56.000 Of big companies screwing the little guy and not caring 16:56.000 --> 16:59.000 That's the fear, and I think that's crazy 16:59.000 --> 17:01.000 Since one of we've been afraid of big companies 17:01.000 --> 17:06.000 Shoot, American citizens have brought down big corporations 17:06.000 --> 17:10.000 Many times, for many reasons 17:10.000 --> 17:13.000 We haven't quite had a revolution in government yet 17:13.000 --> 17:17.000 We've brought down a government, but I think we would be quite capable of that 17:17.000 --> 17:20.000 And she guess what? We're also armed if we need to do it 17:20.000 --> 17:24.000 So this is, it's much more an issue of 17:24.000 --> 17:26.000 Ooh, it's the evil big company 17:26.000 --> 17:30.000 You know, and look at Google, Google was great until they became big 17:30.000 --> 17:31.000 And now they're evil 17:31.000 --> 17:35.000 You know, even when they said they don't want to do evil 17:35.000 --> 17:38.000 Or be evil, I can't remember exactly what the quote was 17:38.000 --> 17:41.000 So it's something else that's going on 17:41.000 --> 17:45.000 And we're really afraid of the big guy trying to kill us 17:45.000 --> 17:49.000 It does not be who of anyone to look 17:49.000 --> 17:51.000 We're all hooked on this stuff 17:51.000 --> 17:55.000 YouTube, Pod Show, Google, Yahoo 17:55.000 --> 17:59.000 You name it, we're hooked on this stuff 17:59.000 --> 18:01.000 And the telecom providers know it 18:01.000 --> 18:04.000 And what they're doing is they're saying we want to open up 18:04.000 --> 18:06.000 A much bigger access pipe 18:06.000 --> 18:09.000 And yeah, we're going to talk to the dealers about it 18:09.000 --> 18:12.000 Because we're going to be able to add new capability 18:12.000 --> 18:15.000 It doesn't mean that you on the other side of the cloud 18:15.000 --> 18:18.000 Won't be able to be accessed 18:18.000 --> 18:21.000 Unless you become a really big drug dealer 18:21.000 --> 18:24.000 And then they're going to want to talk to you about new capabilities 18:24.000 --> 18:26.000 I just don't see this hole 18:26.000 --> 18:28.000 We're not going to be able to connect to each other 18:28.000 --> 18:30.000 I just don't see it, I'm sorry 18:30.000 --> 18:36.000 Now when we're really in trouble here on issues of this magnitude 18:36.000 --> 18:41.000 Of course, as always, one person we can always 18:41.000 --> 18:43.000 Always look forward to hearing from 18:43.000 --> 18:45.000 It's time for your tin foil hat 18:45.000 --> 18:47.000 And now it's time for another tin foil hat moment 18:47.000 --> 18:49.000 From the financial aid podcast 18:49.000 --> 18:52.000 Hey Adam, it's Christian the financial aid podcast here 18:52.000 --> 18:55.000 For everyone trying for legislation for network neutrality 18:55.000 --> 18:57.000 Stop it, stop it now 18:57.000 --> 19:02.000 Listen up, the last thing in the world you ever want to do in order to get something done 19:02.000 --> 19:05.000 In a fair and equitable way is get the government involved 19:05.000 --> 19:08.000 Their ability to screw things up are legendary 19:08.000 --> 19:10.000 Let's take the most recent and net neutrality bill 19:10.000 --> 19:13.000 Which internet companies and private individuals have been pushing for 19:13.000 --> 19:17.000 For starters, this turns over the regulatory power of internet service and content providers 19:17.000 --> 19:20.000 To the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission 19:20.000 --> 19:24.000 This is the same FCC that screamed bloody murder when Janet Jackson's breast 19:24.000 --> 19:26.000 Was unveiled on national TV and furthermore 19:26.000 --> 19:31.000 It's the same FCC that is easily readily and routinely hijacked by a political conservative moment 19:31.000 --> 19:33.000 The parents television counsel 19:33.000 --> 19:37.000 Do you really want these right wing jobs in charge of your internet access 19:37.000 --> 19:43.000 On top of that you can bet this so-called freedom legislation will introduce lots of new domestic spying capabilities 19:43.000 --> 19:49.000 After all, a government will need to have unrestricted access to major data centers to ensure fairness 19:49.000 --> 19:52.000 Right, they wouldn't abuse that power for other means right 19:52.000 --> 19:56.000 The free market is and always has been the best mechanism for getting things done 19:56.000 --> 20:01.000 The real solution to net neutrality is to vote with your two feet in your dollars as much as possible 20:01.000 --> 20:04.000 Do business with companies that follow your values as often as you can 20:04.000 --> 20:07.000 But for God's sake, don't get the government involved 20:07.000 --> 20:10.000 This is Chris from the Financial Aid Podcast 20:10.000 --> 20:11.000 Financial Aid Podcast.com 20:11.000 --> 20:13.000 Signing off another tinfoil hat moment 20:13.000 --> 20:15.000 Exactly, Chris 20:15.000 --> 20:17.000 I'm starting to feel like a republic 20:17.000 --> 20:22.000 No, no, no, I totally believe in the free market in this case 20:22.000 --> 20:25.000 There was something else I was going to say about that 20:25.000 --> 20:30.000 Yeah, you know, so the arguments that I'm hearing are well, you know 20:30.000 --> 20:36.000 I just lost my train of thought again 20:36.000 --> 20:41.000 Oh, well, I was going to give you an analogy actually 20:41.000 --> 20:47.000 And then I'll just get off the top because I was going to give you an analogy as to a parallel 20:47.000 --> 20:49.000 There we go 20:49.000 --> 20:55.000 We have the US Postal Service and a delivers and it delivers pretty good 20:55.000 --> 20:59.000 Then we're all pretty happy with it. It's been that way for several hundred years 20:59.000 --> 21:07.000 But if we had put in postal neutrality, you know, would FedEx exist 21:07.000 --> 21:13.000 You know, are you allowed to have a service next to the postal service that delivers faster 21:13.000 --> 21:15.000 And has online tracking? 21:15.000 --> 21:16.000 Yeah, of course 21:16.000 --> 21:19.000 Does it mean you can't send something the same size? Well, of course not 21:19.000 --> 21:22.000 Does it mean that there's a difference when you receive it? 21:22.000 --> 21:24.000 Yeah, there is a difference 21:24.000 --> 21:27.000 But this is what it's about, it's about advancement of the network 21:27.000 --> 21:32.000 People who want to utilize that and in true business models 21:32.000 --> 21:36.000 I think it will all shake itself out. Let's just not get all crazy 21:36.000 --> 21:38.000 That the internet is dying 21:38.000 --> 21:42.000 A lot of people pointed me at the Rocket Boom, Rocket Boom did it episode 21:42.000 --> 21:47.000 Trying to give an analogy of roads and Amanda driving in a car 21:47.000 --> 21:50.000 Very cute, but you know, Amanda's an actress 21:50.000 --> 21:54.000 She doesn't really, I don't believe she understands what is happening 21:54.000 --> 21:56.000 In the underpinnings of the internet 21:56.000 --> 21:59.000 And it's a very populist piece that I saw 21:59.000 --> 22:03.000 Interesting, though, that she was using a via notebook 22:03.000 --> 22:06.000 I wonder if that was, I never see commercials 22:06.000 --> 22:09.000 Or advertisements on Rocket Boom 22:09.000 --> 22:12.000 And I'm thinking that maybe that was an advertisement 22:12.000 --> 22:15.000 I really don't know, I thought that I really believe she was a Mac person 22:15.000 --> 22:18.000 But then I saw it with a Sony via 22:18.000 --> 22:21.000 One just like mine, which I can't wait to talk about in a bit 22:21.000 --> 22:23.000 I don't know, it's David Cohen, I'm a UK listener 22:23.000 --> 22:26.000 I'm just picking up on the last week's source coast 22:26.000 --> 22:29.000 Catching up on them, all the one going to the car 22:29.000 --> 22:33.000 I just want to leave you some feedback about the net you chose you debate 22:33.000 --> 22:35.000 I'm all confused by your start 22:35.000 --> 22:38.000 You know, you've been complaining about things like the 22:38.000 --> 22:41.000 Thanks for most credit card being denied 22:41.000 --> 22:43.000 And you say all the American credit cards 22:43.000 --> 22:45.000 I'm going to get out 22:45.000 --> 22:48.000 The IAA and Ask Cat BMI 22:49.000 --> 22:52.000 Not one thing card cards, let's see, promote their needs 22:52.000 --> 22:55.000 It's free, but once it's a charge of extortion at fees 22:55.000 --> 22:57.000 I remember a couple of months about you complaining about 22:57.000 --> 23:00.000 And touch on, not be enough to send emails to people 23:00.000 --> 23:02.000 And you have to pay what you call the email tax 23:02.000 --> 23:04.000 To get the email through 23:04.000 --> 23:07.000 Because that's what I've been paid for 23:07.000 --> 23:10.000 Isn't the net you chose to think exactly the same 23:10.000 --> 23:13.000 Isn't that just a price gouging by a comm to companies 23:13.000 --> 23:16.000 They just want to take an extra price of the sharing 23:16.000 --> 23:18.000 And they've got to return their investment 23:18.000 --> 23:21.000 With their investment and models can't return their investments 23:21.000 --> 23:23.000 On what they're currently charging 23:23.000 --> 23:26.000 And then, you know, they shouldn't be in business 23:26.000 --> 23:29.000 And, you know, one day these guys are going to come to Port Show 23:29.000 --> 23:32.000 And they're going to say, hey, you're making extra money 23:32.000 --> 23:34.000 Or for a band or a band with vision 23:34.000 --> 23:37.000 We want our extra money to show from you as well 23:37.000 --> 23:41.000 And asking the sector classes generally in Port Show particular 23:41.000 --> 23:44.000 So I'm just interested to know what your thoughts are 23:44.000 --> 23:47.000 And that would you think maybe you should take their site 23:47.000 --> 23:48.000 This is something 23:48.000 --> 23:50.000 Anyway, I love the show 23:50.000 --> 23:52.000 I love the debate, I love the feedback lines 23:52.000 --> 23:54.000 And the photography 23:54.000 --> 23:56.000 Right on, yeah, right on dude 23:56.000 --> 23:58.000 Glad to hear you in the UK are interested as well 23:58.000 --> 24:00.000 Let them come 24:00.000 --> 24:02.000 You know, they can't extort us 24:02.000 --> 24:05.000 You know, that's the time to go to the government 24:05.000 --> 24:07.000 If the telco start extorting us 24:07.000 --> 24:09.000 And now I remembered what I was going to say 24:09.000 --> 24:10.000 Early when I lost my train of thought 24:10.000 --> 24:12.000 You know, the true thing that has to happen here 24:12.000 --> 24:15.000 And maybe this is something that has to be a part of legislation 24:15.000 --> 24:19.000 It's clearly when you need more choice of providers 24:19.000 --> 24:21.000 If it's really going to be an issue 24:21.000 --> 24:24.000 So in that case we should 24:24.000 --> 24:26.000 Wow, it's my time already up for the satellite 24:26.000 --> 24:27.000 Window, correct? 24:27.000 --> 24:29.000 Yeah, I can't believe I've been yapping way too long 24:29.000 --> 24:31.000 Those of you checking us out on serious stars 102 24:31.000 --> 24:33.000 This is the daily source code 24:33.000 --> 24:34.000 It's part of the pod show lineup 24:34.000 --> 24:36.000 Which you can hear every single week 24:36.000 --> 24:40.000 Day after noon from six to nine, six to ten 24:40.000 --> 24:42.000 Eastern time 24:42.000 --> 24:44.000 Calculate your own darn Pacific times 24:44.000 --> 24:46.000 Speaking of Pacific Pacific Coast, Hellway is next 24:46.000 --> 24:49.000 With Mark Hirsch Motor Nemcoff and I'll see you later 24:49.000 --> 24:51.000 Tomorrow here on stars 102 24:51.000 --> 24:53.000 Okay 24:53.000 --> 24:55.000 Done with net neutrality 24:55.000 --> 24:57.000 I don't think it'll pass anyway 24:57.000 --> 24:59.000 I would be highly surprised 24:59.000 --> 25:01.000 Quick bit about football 25:01.000 --> 25:03.000 I spoke to you a taxi Eric yesterday 25:03.000 --> 25:05.000 He's the guy that does all ground coordination 25:05.000 --> 25:07.000 And transportation for us 25:07.000 --> 25:09.000 And he's a cab driver 25:09.000 --> 25:10.000 But he does a lot 25:10.000 --> 25:12.000 Whenever we're in Holland 25:12.000 --> 25:15.000 Tomorrow I think we'll give him a call 25:15.000 --> 25:16.000 And ask him for an update 25:16.000 --> 25:19.000 He's way into football as you can imagine 25:19.000 --> 25:21.000 I mean like way into it 25:21.000 --> 25:24.000 And he's a funny guy 25:24.000 --> 25:26.000 So he'll give us his predictions 25:26.000 --> 25:27.000 Et cetera on all the games 25:27.000 --> 25:29.000 Maybe we'll make it a regular feature 25:29.000 --> 25:32.000 And call him every day as long as there's an interesting game going on 25:33.000 --> 25:36.000 Hey Adam, this is Casey from Irving Texas 25:36.000 --> 25:40.000 And I call him one time listener 25:40.000 --> 25:43.000 Early just a podcast show 25:43.000 --> 25:45.000 That I was able to find on my machine 25:45.000 --> 25:48.000 Was a 321 and a 2005 25:48.000 --> 25:51.000 We're the way in on the C4 World Cup 25:51.000 --> 25:55.000 And I just express my opinion on why 25:55.000 --> 25:59.000 There may be more than usual 26:00.000 --> 26:02.000 Viewership in the US 26:02.000 --> 26:06.000 I don't think it has to do really necessarily with 26:06.000 --> 26:08.000 Interest in soccer 26:08.000 --> 26:10.000 I think it's a lack of sports 26:10.000 --> 26:12.000 We had at this time of year 26:12.000 --> 26:14.000 He had two very small markets playing 26:14.000 --> 26:16.000 In the NBA final 26:16.000 --> 26:19.000 My hometown of Dallas and Miami 26:19.000 --> 26:22.000 He had even small markets playing 26:22.000 --> 26:24.000 In the NHL 26:24.000 --> 26:26.000 Stanley Cup 26:26.000 --> 26:29.000 Carolina, I'm not sure that's a city or a state 26:29.000 --> 26:33.000 But Carolina and it's even small and marketing 26:33.000 --> 26:36.000 So I think the ESPN is kind of 26:36.000 --> 26:40.000 You know push the soccer thing on us this year 26:40.000 --> 26:44.000 To preseason American football starts 26:44.000 --> 26:46.000 The real football right 26:46.000 --> 26:49.000 It's Lisa's King down here in Texas 26:49.000 --> 26:51.000 And pretty much in the US 26:52.000 --> 26:54.000 You mentioned that 26:54.000 --> 26:59.000 It's not a TV-friendly sport 26:59.000 --> 27:03.000 I feel like it's not much of a viewer-friendly sport 27:03.000 --> 27:05.000 Sometimes the camera angles are odd 27:05.000 --> 27:07.000 And I don't know 27:07.000 --> 27:09.000 At least my opinion is 27:09.000 --> 27:11.000 A little bit I've watched this year 27:11.000 --> 27:16.000 It appears to be 20 guys running around in circles 27:16.000 --> 27:19.000 Two guys kicking the ball back and forth each other 27:20.000 --> 27:22.000 It's actually a nice set of days 27:22.000 --> 27:25.000 If you're trying to get the sleep 27:25.000 --> 27:28.000 All right well thanks and I love the show 27:28.000 --> 27:31.000 You know there's something much bigger going on with football 27:31.000 --> 27:32.000 And look at all these 27:32.000 --> 27:35.000 Look at the countries that are kicking ass 27:35.000 --> 27:36.000 Look at Ghana 27:36.000 --> 27:38.000 Look at the Ukraine 27:38.000 --> 27:40.000 We saw a play yesterday 27:40.000 --> 27:43.000 You know what's great about football 27:43.000 --> 27:46.000 And in this case I'm talking about association football 27:46.000 --> 27:47.000 Soccer 27:47.000 --> 27:49.000 Is that anyone can do it? 27:49.000 --> 27:50.000 You don't need any equipment 27:50.000 --> 27:53.000 You can do it with anything that kind of resembles a ball 27:53.000 --> 27:55.000 And anything that kind of resembles some goal posts 27:55.000 --> 27:58.000 And you can do it with eleven guys 27:58.000 --> 27:59.000 You can do it with three guys 27:59.000 --> 28:00.000 With two guys 28:00.000 --> 28:02.000 You know it's you don't need much 28:02.000 --> 28:05.000 I guess the closest thing next 28:05.000 --> 28:06.000 It would be basketball 28:06.000 --> 28:08.000 But you still need some special equipment for that 28:08.000 --> 28:11.000 And the countries where 28:11.000 --> 28:12.000 It's a way out 28:12.000 --> 28:14.000 You know you can beat you 28:14.000 --> 28:15.000 This is what 28:15.000 --> 28:18.000 Maradona and Paylay were all about 28:18.000 --> 28:21.000 Is you know local boy makes it huge on the world stage 28:21.000 --> 28:23.000 And the world stage of course 28:23.000 --> 28:26.000 Includes a lot of other countries besides the United States 28:26.000 --> 28:28.000 And this has been going on for a while 28:28.000 --> 28:31.000 In the US you kind of you play high school ball 28:31.000 --> 28:33.000 Then you go to the right college 28:33.000 --> 28:36.000 There's a whole system that will bring you right through 28:36.000 --> 28:39.000 Into into the major leagues of whatever sport it is 28:39.000 --> 28:41.000 And with soccer you know 28:41.000 --> 28:43.000 You just play your ass off 28:43.000 --> 28:45.000 And anyone can really do it 28:45.000 --> 28:48.000 And that's you see the street fighter mentality of a lot of these countries 28:48.000 --> 28:50.000 And I think that is beautiful to see 28:50.000 --> 28:53.000 About the television direction 28:53.000 --> 28:54.000 Yeah 28:54.000 --> 28:56.000 I'm not quite sure I should look into that 28:56.000 --> 28:59.000 Who's responsible for all the for the telecast 28:59.000 --> 29:02.000 If it's all being done by German crews 29:02.000 --> 29:04.000 You know I think there could be a lot more 29:04.000 --> 29:07.000 When I look at it on ABC is an example 29:07.000 --> 29:09.000 Man they're really adding a lot of graphics 29:09.000 --> 29:11.000 And they have the commentary 29:11.000 --> 29:14.000 And it's also an important part is who's calling the game 29:14.000 --> 29:18.000 But it is much more than just about the ball 29:18.000 --> 29:20.000 You know it really is about you know 29:20.000 --> 29:22.000 Hey look at look at this kid he came from nothing 29:22.000 --> 29:24.000 He's kicking ass he's representing our country 29:24.000 --> 29:26.000 It's a whole pride thing 29:26.000 --> 29:27.000 Um 29:27.000 --> 29:30.000 Not unlike the European the Eurovision is so fast of all 29:30.000 --> 29:33.000 Yo Adam it's Martin from 29:33.000 --> 29:36.000 Wevel squash center and there's been a strier actually 29:36.000 --> 29:38.000 He'd love to listen to you so dude 29:38.000 --> 29:40.000 It's a little bit bummed up to watching the strier 29:40.000 --> 29:42.000 Go to Italy last night after a referee 29:42.000 --> 29:44.000 The lambda should have gone extra tall 29:44.000 --> 29:46.000 And then we would have won the penalty suit 29:46.000 --> 29:48.000 Anyway, I might love your show to keep it up 29:48.000 --> 29:50.000 And yeah 29:50.000 --> 29:51.000 Yeah 29:51.000 --> 29:52.000 What a night 29:52.000 --> 29:54.000 See you later 29:54.000 --> 29:56.000 Just messing around with my outline here 29:56.000 --> 29:57.000 Hold on a second 29:57.000 --> 29:59.000 Let me just get on this right 29:59.000 --> 30:00.000 Yeah 30:00.000 --> 30:02.000 Just messing around 30:02.000 --> 30:03.000 If you got anything to say 30:03.000 --> 30:05.000 Give me a call on the voicemail numbers 30:05.000 --> 30:07.000 Number in New Jersey which is probably the best for your Skype out 30:07.000 --> 30:10.000 Two zero one six two five six three five seven 30:10.000 --> 30:15.000 In London zero two zero seven six eight one three seven five three 30:15.000 --> 30:17.000 The Earthlink ad challenge still rages on 30:17.000 --> 30:20.000 Um these things are not going through the judging process 30:20.000 --> 30:24.000 I got to get an update and I want to play a couple more new pieces for you 30:24.000 --> 30:26.000 Um 30:26.000 --> 30:30.000 Actually since I moved to the new laptop I had a lot you know a lot of my passwords 30:30.000 --> 30:32.000 I just in Firefox I just say remember 30:32.000 --> 30:35.000 And then of course I forget about them 30:35.000 --> 30:37.000 Well when that in the transition 30:37.000 --> 30:40.000 I was definitely afraid of using any migration tool 30:40.000 --> 30:43.000 So I figured I just start all a fresh all you know all new 30:43.000 --> 30:44.000 And it's really not that much 30:44.000 --> 30:46.000 But it is some stuff like your password file 30:46.000 --> 30:48.000 And yeah, I'm sure I could move it over and whatever 30:48.000 --> 30:51.000 But I'm just kind of going through the motions again 30:51.000 --> 30:52.000 Um 30:52.000 --> 30:54.000 So I can't actually get into the database 30:54.000 --> 30:57.000 And listen to any of the submissions as they come in 30:57.000 --> 30:59.000 But podcasts are now getting into it 30:59.000 --> 31:01.000 Listen to Angie Beast chill cast 31:01.000 --> 31:03.000 She did something with the Roger Smalls 31:03.000 --> 31:06.000 You definitely have to check it at the end of her most recent episode 31:06.000 --> 31:09.000 And even our friends and it'll you're getting into it 31:09.000 --> 31:12.000 Think advertising sucks 31:12.000 --> 31:15.000 Think it gives always the same message again and again 31:15.000 --> 31:19.000 Listen to our revolutionary advertising for Earthlink 31:34.000 --> 31:36.000 Earthlink 31:36.000 --> 31:38.000 You will get late 31:40.000 --> 31:42.000 Frank, remember 31:42.000 --> 31:47.000 With our clink they're going to put their mouth where your money is 31:48.000 --> 31:51.000 Let's Franco from Rockhouse, Detalia 31:51.000 --> 31:53.000 Dude you're outrageous 31:53.000 --> 31:56.000 This of course goes right along with what I said 31:56.000 --> 31:57.000 This is about advertising works 31:57.000 --> 32:01.000 Tell someone that they won't get laid or anything similar to that 32:01.000 --> 32:03.000 And they'll buy your product 32:03.000 --> 32:05.000 It's the way it works 32:05.000 --> 32:07.000 We should try that for the next presidential elections 32:07.000 --> 32:08.000 I'm telling you 32:08.000 --> 32:10.000 Vote for this guy 32:10.000 --> 32:12.000 Or you won't get laid 32:12.000 --> 32:16.000 Go to adchallens.podshow.com 32:16.000 --> 32:18.000 To register your entry 32:18.000 --> 32:20.000 You can win pretty big prizes 32:20.000 --> 32:22.000 And actually we'll use your commercial 32:22.000 --> 32:24.000 Or your endorsement or your jingle 32:24.000 --> 32:25.000 Or your song or whatever 32:25.000 --> 32:26.000 People are getting really creative 32:26.000 --> 32:28.000 So don't think it just has to be something you produce 32:28.000 --> 32:30.000 It can be just you know you talking about it 32:31.000 --> 32:34.000 How should I? 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34:03.000 Learning a tremendous amount about people 34:03.000 --> 34:05.000 While doing this 34:05.000 --> 34:07.000 Learning about you know 34:07.000 --> 34:10.000 And once again, it's so interesting to see what happens 34:10.000 --> 34:12.000 Podcasters grouped together 34:12.000 --> 34:15.000 They live together, they talk together, they promote their own shows 34:15.000 --> 34:19.000 They totally, I'm really working on audience 34:19.000 --> 34:21.000 Please 34:21.000 --> 34:23.000 You know this whole whole notion 34:23.000 --> 34:24.000 It's like 34:24.000 --> 34:25.000 It's just 34:25.000 --> 34:28.000 I'm learning a lot about communities 34:28.000 --> 34:30.000 And 34:30.000 --> 34:32.000 Wow you know 34:32.000 --> 34:35.000 I'm so forgetting listeners involved in this 34:35.000 --> 34:36.000 And audience members 34:36.000 --> 34:38.000 And that's what I love about the voicemail feedback 34:38.000 --> 34:41.000 And a lot of the knowledge that I'm garnering 34:41.000 --> 34:44.000 Through just observing how people are in 34:44.000 --> 34:47.000 Oh, let's use the pod us here 34:47.000 --> 34:50.000 And actually how little we project outwards towards 34:50.000 --> 34:52.000 Just people who are listening 34:52.000 --> 34:54.000 It's quite amazing 34:54.000 --> 34:55.000 It really is 34:55.000 --> 34:58.000 And so a lot of that knowledge is being poured straight into pod show 34:58.000 --> 34:59.000 Plus 34:59.000 --> 35:01.000 Hey, we're getting really close 35:01.000 --> 35:03.000 I can say I can safely say 35:03.000 --> 35:06.000 What are we today the 27th 35:06.000 --> 35:08.000 Oh, did you hear that? 35:08.000 --> 35:09.000 Shoot 35:09.000 --> 35:11.000 It's my, oh this is interesting 35:11.000 --> 35:13.000 My mic cable, some 35:13.000 --> 35:15.000 Okay, I had a buzz there and now it's gone 35:15.000 --> 35:16.000 Good 35:17.000 --> 35:18.000 I think within a week 35:18.000 --> 35:20.000 I think I think we're that close 35:20.000 --> 35:21.000 Oh, man 35:21.000 --> 35:23.000 It's going to be so incredibly cool 35:24.000 --> 35:26.000 So on the pod show island 35:26.000 --> 35:28.000 It's a great place to just hang out 35:28.000 --> 35:30.000 Here's something I'm going to try 35:30.000 --> 35:32.000 I'm going to try a live daily source code 35:32.000 --> 35:33.000 Now it'll go out 35:33.000 --> 35:35.000 It'll be recorded as a pod cast 35:35.000 --> 35:37.000 So it will be 35:37.000 --> 35:38.000 You know 35:38.000 --> 35:39.000 Available in the traditional manner 35:39.000 --> 35:41.000 But I'm going to do it live for people who are 35:41.000 --> 35:43.000 At the palace 35:43.000 --> 35:46.000 So it'll be probably fairly music intensive 35:46.000 --> 35:47.000 But I was thinking 35:47.000 --> 35:49.000 You know, we can also hook up 35:49.000 --> 35:51.000 People through Skype 35:51.000 --> 35:53.000 I don't know, I just got this whole mind mel 35:53.000 --> 35:54.000 That I'm working on 35:54.000 --> 35:57.000 I think it could really be a fun experiment for the show 35:57.000 --> 35:58.000 Which of course this is the show 35:58.000 --> 36:00.000 To experiment with all kinds of shit 36:00.000 --> 36:02.000 Whether it's programming in the 36:02.000 --> 36:04.000 In the programming of entertainment 36:04.000 --> 36:06.000 Sense or programming in the code sense 36:06.000 --> 36:09.000 Plenty of spots left over for vendors to come in 36:09.000 --> 36:12.000 Sell some crap on the on 36:12.000 --> 36:14.000 So some podcast and crap if you want 36:14.000 --> 36:16.000 Or advertise your podcast 36:16.000 --> 36:18.000 I saw CC Chapman in there yesterday 36:18.000 --> 36:20.000 He's rented a spot 36:20.000 --> 36:24.000 And we also have 36:24.000 --> 36:26.000 Oh man, learning so much 36:26.000 --> 36:27.000 This is game called 36:27.000 --> 36:28.000 Slingo 36:28.000 --> 36:30.000 Which I guess is a form of 36:30.000 --> 36:32.000 Second life bingo 36:32.000 --> 36:34.000 Man, that's popular 36:34.000 --> 36:36.000 It's really how 36:36.000 --> 36:38.000 Rageously popular 36:38.000 --> 36:40.000 You've got to check it out 36:40.000 --> 36:42.000 Yeah, I'm just 36:42.000 --> 36:44.000 I'm thinking of the way we can do that as well 36:44.000 --> 36:46.000 Outside of second life 36:46.000 --> 36:47.000 This is just 36:47.000 --> 36:48.000 It's really interesting 36:48.000 --> 36:49.000 At the end of the day 36:49.000 --> 36:51.000 All the human elements come out 36:51.000 --> 36:53.000 You know, all we really want to do is 36:53.000 --> 36:54.000 Just hang out 36:54.000 --> 36:55.000 Play games 36:55.000 --> 36:57.000 Watch people play games 36:57.000 --> 36:58.000 And good light 37:04.000 --> 37:06.000 Do you know what you want? 37:06.000 --> 37:08.000 Do you know why you want? 37:08.000 --> 37:12.000 Do you know who made you want it? 37:12.000 --> 37:14.000 Do you know what to do about it? 37:14.000 --> 37:16.000 I do 37:16.000 --> 37:18.000 Listen to partini 37:18.000 --> 37:20.000 Partini is a show about the people who make you want 37:20.000 --> 37:22.000 The stuff you want 37:22.000 --> 37:24.000 And how they do it 37:24.000 --> 37:26.000 Go to partini.com 37:26.000 --> 37:28.000 Now go ahead 37:28.000 --> 37:30.000 Do you know you want to that 37:30.000 --> 37:32.000 Partini.com 37:32.000 --> 37:40.000 You can check out my podcast at the serieshow.com 37:40.000 --> 37:42.000 That's HWBY 37:42.000 --> 37:44.000 Anyways, so 37:44.000 --> 37:46.000 I was sentenced here about 37:46.000 --> 37:48.000 Christina's 37:48.000 --> 37:50.000 Little miss hat that 37:50.000 --> 37:51.000 Steel day 37:51.000 --> 37:53.000 I'm going to call a field day 37:53.000 --> 37:54.000 That's cool 37:54.000 --> 37:55.000 So 37:55.000 --> 37:57.000 I just want to give her my best wishes 37:57.000 --> 37:58.000 And give her a little story 37:58.000 --> 37:59.000 That should 37:59.000 --> 38:00.000 Share her up 38:01.000 --> 38:03.000 I was running track 38:03.000 --> 38:05.000 I'm 15 38:05.000 --> 38:06.000 To 38:06.000 --> 38:07.000 So 38:07.000 --> 38:09.000 I was running track at school 38:09.000 --> 38:10.000 And 38:10.000 --> 38:12.000 It was basically running the mile 38:12.000 --> 38:13.000 For PE 38:13.000 --> 38:15.000 And it's 4th lap of 38:15.000 --> 38:16.000 Drinking around 38:16.000 --> 38:17.000 And 38:17.000 --> 38:19.000 Basically what happened is 38:19.000 --> 38:21.000 My femur broke 38:21.000 --> 38:22.000 My 38:22.000 --> 38:23.000 A little bit of the bone 38:23.000 --> 38:24.000 The thigh bone 38:24.000 --> 38:25.000 The entire thigh bone 38:25.000 --> 38:26.000 Clean cut 38:26.000 --> 38:27.000 It was in the hospital 38:27.000 --> 38:28.000 It felt stone 38:28.000 --> 38:29.000 But I was on morphing 38:29.000 --> 38:31.000 Yes, not 38:31.000 --> 38:32.000 Not nitrous or accept 38:32.000 --> 38:33.000 Morphing 38:33.000 --> 38:34.000 And then 38:34.000 --> 38:35.000 What the surgery and everything 38:35.000 --> 38:36.000 And I'm still going 38:36.000 --> 38:37.000 This is it all 38:37.000 --> 38:38.000 We had so 38:38.000 --> 38:40.000 I hope that Christina 38:40.000 --> 38:41.000 Feels better 38:41.000 --> 38:43.000 And I trust me 38:43.000 --> 38:44.000 I know we're slowing the slowing 38:44.000 --> 38:45.000 Sock 38:45.000 --> 38:46.000 Thanks 38:46.000 --> 38:47.000 Yeah 38:47.000 --> 38:48.000 No kidding 38:48.000 --> 38:49.000 Thanks, dude 38:49.000 --> 38:50.000 Thanks for calling 38:50.000 --> 38:51.000 I'm sure she'll appreciate it 38:51.000 --> 38:54.000 She wasn't quite up to doing a show last night 38:54.000 --> 38:55.000 And of course 38:55.000 --> 38:57.000 We're getting so close to the 38:57.000 --> 38:58.000 Unleash of pod show 38:58.000 --> 39:00.000 Plus the podcast delivery network 39:00.000 --> 39:02.000 The upgraded pod safe music network 39:02.000 --> 39:04.000 It's been really busy 39:04.000 --> 39:05.000 So my my 39:05.000 --> 39:06.000 My actual second life 39:06.000 --> 39:08.000 Which starts around 4 p.m. 39:08.000 --> 39:10.000 Which is 80m San Francisco time 39:10.000 --> 39:11.000 I was pretty busy 39:11.000 --> 39:12.000 It's going to be busy again tonight 39:12.000 --> 39:13.000 All the way up until midnight 39:13.000 --> 39:15.000 Just doing all the meetings 39:15.000 --> 39:16.000 Trying to fit in with the schedule 39:16.000 --> 39:17.000 San Francisco 39:17.000 --> 39:18.000 Sometimes a little tough 39:18.000 --> 39:19.000 On the 39:19.000 --> 39:20.000 On the 39:20.000 --> 39:21.000 The home life here 39:21.000 --> 39:22.000 But 39:22.000 --> 39:23.000 Ah, these girls are so flexible 39:23.000 --> 39:24.000 So anyway 39:24.000 --> 39:26.000 So we'll do a pod save the queen tonight 39:26.000 --> 39:27.000 That'll go up and 39:27.000 --> 39:28.000 So you can be able to listen to that 39:28.000 --> 39:29.000 By tomorrow 39:29.000 --> 39:30.000 So an update on 39:30.000 --> 39:32.000 Am I via 39:32.000 --> 39:33.000 On 39:33.000 --> 39:34.000 Imagine that 39:34.000 --> 39:35.000 Adam Curry 39:35.000 --> 39:37.000 Using windows 39:37.000 --> 39:39.000 Using a non apple product 39:39.000 --> 39:43.000 It was this a comment that I got 39:43.000 --> 39:45.000 That maybe want to talk about this with you 39:45.000 --> 39:46.000 Hey Adam this is David 39:46.000 --> 39:47.000 I'm son in California 39:47.000 --> 39:49.000 That's tunes entertainment.com 39:49.000 --> 39:52.000 My show is behind the wedding bay 39:53.000 --> 39:54.000 The wedding mic 39:54.000 --> 39:56.000 And we talk about weddings and things going on 39:56.000 --> 39:57.000 In the wedding industry 39:57.000 --> 39:58.000 And about this track 39:58.000 --> 39:59.000 These are music 39:59.000 --> 40:00.000 And I love your show today 40:00.000 --> 40:01.000 I'm referencing the show 40:01.000 --> 40:02.000 4-0-9 40:02.000 --> 40:04.000 The copyright issue 40:04.000 --> 40:06.000 It's really cool 40:06.000 --> 40:07.000 I really like that 40:07.000 --> 40:09.000 You talked about things going on 40:09.000 --> 40:10.000 A little technical 40:10.000 --> 40:11.000 I'm a little bit of a technique 40:11.000 --> 40:13.000 But I really like when you lean into it 40:13.000 --> 40:14.000 Not so much 40:14.000 --> 40:15.000 Well you take away all your other funds 40:15.000 --> 40:17.000 That's like talking about the games 40:17.000 --> 40:18.000 And the soccer 40:18.000 --> 40:19.000 Where it came from 40:19.000 --> 40:20.000 And the porn stuff 40:20.000 --> 40:23.000 Now you could go with that 40:23.000 --> 40:25.000 The text type 40:25.000 --> 40:26.000 This time I pour a lip 40:26.000 --> 40:27.000 Of these things 40:28.000 --> 40:30.000 Did you imagine that you would bring chocolate 40:30.000 --> 40:32.000 An apple again 40:32.000 --> 40:34.000 Fly high 40:34.000 --> 40:36.080 F Billy 40:36.080 --> 40:39.000 Bribe 40:39.000 --> 40:40.000 Your best friend 40:40.000 --> 40:43.000 But one thing that I think is 40:43.000 --> 40:44.000 Boy 40:44.000 --> 40:46.000 Dr Kaitlin 40:46.000 --> 40:47.000 Clark 40:47.000 --> 40:48.000 I liked the 40:48.000 --> 40:49.000 gypt 40:49.000 --> 40:53.640 You know, but they haven't done anything about it, so I don't know what the future holds, 40:53.640 --> 40:58.880 but I know Canada does have a license to where they can copy and use different formats 40:58.880 --> 41:01.120 for their music and they pay one fee. 41:01.120 --> 41:03.280 The U.S.A. has nothing like that. 41:03.280 --> 41:07.280 That's not entirely true. 41:07.280 --> 41:12.520 The establishment has to pay ASCAP BMI rights for a disjockey performing, but I appreciate 41:12.520 --> 41:14.960 the fact that you like the geeky stuff, because I'm going to get just a little geeky 41:14.960 --> 41:15.960 on your ass. 41:15.960 --> 41:21.680 I can hear people around the net going, oh no, he's going geeky. 41:21.680 --> 41:22.680 I'd love this via. 41:22.680 --> 41:25.560 I got to tell you, you know what happens? 41:25.560 --> 41:30.960 You use a piece of software or a gadget or something, maybe early on, and I guess what 41:30.960 --> 41:33.320 you'd call an early adopter. 41:33.320 --> 41:37.960 And you use this very early on and you see all the shortcomings and usually it eventually 41:37.960 --> 41:44.040 winds up propping up a table somewhere or discarded or sent off or given away or whatever. 41:44.040 --> 41:47.320 That experience sticks with you for a long, long time. 41:47.320 --> 41:52.640 My whole experience with Windows, and particularly the hardware part, I know what Windows 41:52.640 --> 41:57.680 is the operating system does, but there's no tight integration between the Windows operating 41:57.680 --> 41:58.680 system. 41:58.680 --> 42:03.160 Microsoft doesn't make PCs, so they don't really have a lock on, okay, this is how we're 42:03.160 --> 42:04.160 going to do it. 42:04.160 --> 42:08.120 It makes it much tighter, much easier, which is exactly what Apple does. 42:08.120 --> 42:09.840 But they have fixed a lot of things. 42:09.920 --> 42:15.440 I have to say, you know, I plugged in on my wireless keyboard stuff, it worked immediately. 42:15.440 --> 42:24.920 I can plug in cards, SD memory cards, a lot of the drivers, this UNP and P, or universal 42:24.920 --> 42:28.840 plug and play, it does kind of work. 42:28.840 --> 42:34.800 This via laptop has a camera built in and guess what, it kind of works. 42:34.800 --> 42:39.280 Stuff that I never could get to work on the Mac or with a lot of issues, unless I'm 42:39.280 --> 42:45.640 using their dedicated software, and you know, I got to say, I'm just, it's not bothering 42:45.640 --> 42:46.640 me that much. 42:46.640 --> 42:51.640 At all, in fact, I'm really enjoying the speed of it, it is definitely the fastest computer 42:51.640 --> 42:52.640 I've ever had. 42:52.640 --> 43:00.280 Now, I think this has a dual core processor, so it's, it's hot shit that's going on inside. 43:00.280 --> 43:04.040 Yeah, there's, you know, you have to kind of figure it out, each manufacturer puts different 43:04.040 --> 43:08.680 things in, and it has different widgets and software, and you know, they're all pretty 43:08.680 --> 43:09.680 much related. 43:09.680 --> 43:13.160 It's the stuff that, you know, does not come in Windows that pertains particularly to the 43:13.160 --> 43:17.200 hardware, so you have to kind of figure it out, and I think Sony does a pretty good job. 43:17.200 --> 43:23.040 You know, I'm able to mix and match my monitors, a docking station, when I undock, you 43:23.040 --> 43:26.960 know, it used to be, you'd undock, and you'd basically have to reboot Windows, don't have 43:26.960 --> 43:27.960 to do that anymore. 43:27.960 --> 43:37.040 So it really has come into its own, I have to say, yeah, it's, it's not bad, I can't 43:37.040 --> 43:41.720 tell you any, any different, you know, and there's little applications for all the things 43:41.720 --> 43:45.680 that I was doing on the Mac, and yeah, you have to learn different key commands, and it's 43:45.680 --> 43:49.680 nice about it, you can customize it, you can do a lot of customization. 43:49.680 --> 43:54.960 My Sony Vio looks very much like a Mac, it's got the Mac background, the icons, I have 43:55.040 --> 44:02.880 a dock, I've got, I've got an Apple menu, which I never really use that much on the, on 44:02.880 --> 44:03.880 the Mac either. 44:03.880 --> 44:08.120 I have a control H command now for hide, and there's a few things that you have to kind 44:08.120 --> 44:13.120 of learn, but it's just, it's not that bad, I'm sorry, I just can't hate it. 44:13.120 --> 44:18.360 Hey Adam, it's Carl here, I swear tonight, if you, if you're considering actually 44:18.440 --> 44:24.640 going back to the Macs, when the new things just come out, or if you'll be thinking 44:24.640 --> 44:28.240 about going for Windowsista, thanks, bye. 44:28.240 --> 44:33.400 Well, so there's two things you asked there, one is about hardware, and the other is 44:33.400 --> 44:38.800 about new software, I don't really care about Windows Vista, I have no idea what it would 44:38.800 --> 44:43.000 do, you know, what, you know, I'm sure it has all kinds of technological things, oh, by 44:43.000 --> 44:49.040 the way, for those of you who were using something like QuickSilver or Spotlight, I installed 44:49.040 --> 44:53.560 Google Desktop, and I really like it, because you just hit the control key twice, and it pops 44:53.560 --> 44:58.360 up right in the middle of your screen, a little search bar, and you type in your search 44:58.360 --> 44:59.360 request. 44:59.360 --> 45:02.000 Now if you're looking for an application, you can set it so that it brings up the application 45:02.000 --> 45:06.440 and documents first that are on your, on your machine, so if I want to start cast blast, 45:06.440 --> 45:11.840 so I just hit the control key quite twice, and then CA, and it comes up cast blast, or 45:11.840 --> 45:16.040 when I hit go, and cast blast, or launches, you know, that's the type of speed stuff that 45:16.040 --> 45:21.760 I really had figured out on the Mac, and I'm figuring it out on Windows, and, and I know 45:21.760 --> 45:26.360 this hardware is going to hang together, you know, the Sony has a great QA process, and 45:26.360 --> 45:32.320 they do make great consumer products, they've been at a huge disadvantage, it's not 45:32.320 --> 45:37.680 pretty, it's nice, I like the keyboard, especially, really big keys, it feels very nice. 45:37.760 --> 45:43.920 I have to stretch a little bit more than I was used to on the Toshiba, but it's not 45:43.920 --> 45:50.160 as beautiful, I mean, they should hire a couple of real designers, and it would be even 45:50.160 --> 45:57.640 better, the screen is phenomenal on this thing, you know, it's got, it has a edge network, 45:57.640 --> 46:04.920 networking, if I want it, and it's got all the ports, it's got everything you need, and 46:05.000 --> 46:09.880 with the Mac, you know, I've been following along with the new MacBook Pros, and I'm 46:09.880 --> 46:14.440 now I'm seeing it from a little bit of a distance, and I'm seeing people going through 46:14.440 --> 46:26.120 the Wi-Fi not working, the overheating, Joey Eto has been writing on his web log about how 46:26.120 --> 46:30.840 we can't use it on an airplane, because it draws so much power, it keeps popping, fuse, 46:30.920 --> 46:37.080 breakers, circuit breakers in the plane, so you then have to turn it off, and then it has to 46:37.080 --> 46:40.760 charge, and then it's just, you know, all kinds of nightmares, I think they're on their fourth 46:40.760 --> 46:48.120 series of of power books by now, and I'm just seeing the people saying, oh, okay, you know, 46:48.120 --> 46:54.120 I'll go for the next one, or wait for the next one, or I'll get it upgraded, and, you know, 46:54.120 --> 46:59.960 it can't just be beautiful, and yeah, the operating system is I love Unix, I grew up on Unix, 47:01.160 --> 47:05.800 but I just don't use the command line that more anymore, you know, I just don't need to create 47:05.800 --> 47:12.200 little quick applications, and pipe stuff out from one process to another, and if I needed to, 47:12.200 --> 47:16.680 well, you know, I could probably find an application that does what I want to do, because 47:17.560 --> 47:23.800 you know, Windows does have a lot more people developing for it, so I don't know if I'll 47:23.800 --> 47:28.600 go back, I mean, I like the mix, you know, I still have a Mac here in the office, a Mac downstairs, 47:28.760 --> 47:33.000 but for my real productivity machine, the one that I live on, my window to the world, 47:34.120 --> 47:40.920 I got to tell you, so far, so good for the Sony Vio. Hey Charlie fans, Brian here from 47:40.920 --> 47:48.360 Procrasticast. I think I just found a great way to get high, turning on a musician to the 47:48.360 --> 47:54.840 pod safe music network. So the other day, Jeremy Row, a musician who lives way up here in Michigan's 47:54.920 --> 48:00.280 upper peninsula where I do, stops over at the house, well, the Procrasticast studios. 48:00.920 --> 48:06.280 And we did a show together, which you can find over at audioaditude.com if you're so inclined. 48:06.280 --> 48:10.680 Anyway, guess what? After that, he decided to upload one of his songs to the PMN. 48:11.400 --> 48:18.360 Is that cool or what? The song, in line to die, it's about a good friend of Jeremy's facing 48:18.360 --> 48:24.520 redeployment to a rack. Now on the pod safe music network, as if that's not cool enough, 48:25.000 --> 48:30.760 Hey Jeremy, put this in your bowl and enjoy the buzz. A debut on the daily source code. 48:34.120 --> 48:37.320 Kick an ass. Jeremy Row, within line to die. 48:38.750 --> 52:15.240 [ Music ] 52:15.240 --> 52:32.200 and we have a good friend of Jeremy Row, in line to die, the pot say from music network, 52:32.200 --> 52:38.240 I know that this show gets downloaded in portions of Iraq and Afghanistan by members of the coalition. 52:38.240 --> 52:41.480 We're thinking of you guys and gals as well. 52:41.480 --> 52:44.480 All right, that's it for the show for today. 52:44.480 --> 52:48.480 I'll be back tomorrow, same, I'm just gonna say, same time. 52:48.480 --> 52:50.480 That depends on you, doesn't it? 52:50.480 --> 52:52.480 So yeah, I guess it will be the same time. 52:52.480 --> 52:53.480 Same time. 52:53.480 --> 52:57.480 A daily source code.com is where you can find the podcast feed the latest episodes. 52:57.480 --> 52:59.480 curry.com for your general feedback. 52:59.480 --> 53:03.480 And of course, anything else is welcome through adamantcurried.com. 53:07.480 --> 53:09.480 Looking forward to hearing from you guys again tomorrow. 53:09.480 --> 53:12.480 If you're looking for a fantastic deal on a domain name, go daddy.com. 53:12.480 --> 53:15.480 Use the checkout code DSC3. 53:15.480 --> 53:17.480 And you'll get that for only $6.95. 53:17.480 --> 53:19.480 See you tomorrow, everybody. 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