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It's been one of those mornings, my friends. Six o'clock came too early today. 04:11.080 --> 04:15.640 Haven't really had this kind of an awakening since, uh, since I got here for this trip. 04:16.520 --> 04:24.280 Oh, man. So tired. Sometimes I feel like I'm in, uh, in my own little private big brother reality show. 04:25.240 --> 04:25.640 Yeah. 04:27.240 --> 04:29.000 Walked away from his family. 04:29.960 --> 04:37.640 You. Okay. I thought there was kind of a cool tune. I had that, uh, in my playlist on the podcast music network for, um, I don't know. 04:37.640 --> 04:42.440 Like a week now or something every single day. And I thought, oh, maybe we should play it today. Now, but today is the right day. 04:42.840 --> 04:45.080 We're up a kind of late last night, deep bugging. 04:46.040 --> 04:52.760 Uh, this is one of those things. Um, you when you get sporadic reports from around the world saying that a certain page, 04:53.720 --> 04:59.640 in this case, I'm podger plus the my page for some people was loading really, really slowly. And none of us could see it. 04:59.960 --> 05:04.360 Uh, I couldn't, I hadn't seen it in, uh, at the cottage. I hadn't seen it here at the condo. 05:04.920 --> 05:08.600 Obviously not at the office. And then last night, finally Andrew Grummit had it at home. 05:10.280 --> 05:17.160 So then we got in touch with Jersey Joe out on the east coast. And, uh, we basically were working with people around the globe. 05:17.160 --> 05:22.600 And, uh, I think we, we got to the bottom of the problem. I had to cut out at a certain point. I just couldn't stand in my feet. 05:23.560 --> 05:33.080 Um, and I don't think the, uh, the problem has been resolved as of this morning. We said in senior email saying as much, but, uh, this is, uh, that's one of these things. 05:33.080 --> 05:39.240 You know, it's, uh, servers are, uh, interesting animals. As are the people who maintain them, by the way. 05:40.280 --> 05:49.800 Jersey Joe, how you doing? Yeah. So a little bit tired. Yes, they were at a great day at Pod Show HQ, uh, took, uh, the, uh, engineering staff out to lunch. 05:50.280 --> 05:54.840 Got to know each other a little bit better. So many people have come in so quickly. And we, you know, eventually, 05:54.840 --> 06:00.760 we're sitting at the table like 15 people, um, and all very diverse backgrounds. Some of them have 06:00.760 --> 06:05.960 known each other from previous, uh, work experience, uh, but it was just really good to get inside everybody's head. 06:06.840 --> 06:12.040 And, uh, really, it was an opportunity to lay it all out on the table and just say, okay, how do you think we're doing? 06:13.080 --> 06:19.320 Um, and it was a cleansing man. It felt good. Really did learn to shit load yesterday. Really did. 06:20.760 --> 06:27.960 Here's an example. I was talking to sod, uh, who, uh, to something. I don't know if, I don't know if 06:27.960 --> 06:34.440 you'd listen to the daily source code. Um, he's our search specialist. And, uh, who also has a very 06:34.440 --> 06:39.000 interesting background, which, of course, is not searched. But it's what really interesting is what 06:39.000 --> 06:44.840 it's been doing for the, I guess the past two, two or three years. And so we're talking about, 06:44.840 --> 06:48.600 uh, the show, and he said, you know, you know how I know when to, oh, it's actually does listen. He says, 06:48.680 --> 06:52.920 you know how I know when to go and listen to a show. Um, because this, this is what it was about. 06:52.920 --> 06:58.200 It was about the show notes. And you noticed yesterday, as I said, I changed, uh, the way I'm doing 06:58.200 --> 07:03.880 show notes. So I'm not giving you a complete rundown with time codes. And my personal feeling is if you 07:03.880 --> 07:08.040 want to listen to this show, you listen to the show. You know, if you just want to listen to the 07:08.040 --> 07:12.280 little bits, then someone else is going to have to extract that and pass it along to you. That's fine. 07:12.360 --> 07:17.880 That, to me, that's, uh, that's perfectly. In fact, it's fantastic. But I don't want to, 07:17.880 --> 07:21.880 you know, this isn't, this is my painting. This is my part. You know, if you don't like it, 07:21.880 --> 07:25.800 don't listen to it. Uh, if you don't like what you're hearing fast forward, but I just don't feel 07:25.800 --> 07:31.800 right about giving you, uh, hooks deep into the program. I just, my personal feeling, you know, 07:31.800 --> 07:36.120 anyone can do whatever they want. And so I'm, I'm rethinking what show notes should be. And, 07:36.120 --> 07:40.920 and quite honestly, after I talked to Sada, then he said, you know, um, what I'll do is, uh, 07:41.000 --> 07:44.840 I'll read through the comments. I thought that was interesting. He says if there's a lot of 07:44.840 --> 07:49.480 comments and, um, and if people are talking about an interesting topic that was discussed in the show, 07:49.480 --> 07:55.000 then I'll listen to the show, um, and I was like, wow, what a one-of-mind blower that is. Of course, 07:55.000 --> 08:01.240 that makes so much sense. So immediately we said about, um, discussing how to, how to weigh indexing 08:01.240 --> 08:06.200 of comments that are associated with the show, which, of course, in Podio plus is great because 08:06.200 --> 08:10.920 it actually is attached to the episode. Uh, so, so we can do that kind of stuff. And then, uh, 08:10.920 --> 08:14.840 and then, then my head just started spinning about all the different things we can do with the context 08:14.840 --> 08:21.640 of, uh, of comments. Um, so leave a comment to daily source code.com. You know what, and, and, 08:21.640 --> 08:26.360 in this, in almost three weeks now that I've been out here, I have not fulfilled on my, uh, 08:26.360 --> 08:32.920 upon my obligation. I feel so shitty. I have not gone to see little man, the movie. And I was talking 08:32.920 --> 08:40.520 to Ron's son, um, two days ago. Was it Sunday? And we had brunch, Augie. And he, he was telling me, 08:40.520 --> 08:44.760 he would, he wanted to go again. He wanted to go with me to see the movie and can. That's how much 08:44.760 --> 08:50.120 he liked it. And the last thing that I would be perfect to get Augie on to do a review. But, uh, 08:50.120 --> 08:56.200 I don't think, uh, I know, I know he's not up this early. So maybe Friday show, when I'm back in the 08:56.200 --> 09:00.440 cottage, um, then we'll have a little better time to different, so I'll be able to give him a call. 09:00.600 --> 09:05.240 I shoot that may not work either. I don't know. He says it's really, really good. So I do 09:05.240 --> 09:10.600 intend on going. Um, and again, this is, uh, you know, the reason why I have to go to the movie 09:10.600 --> 09:16.280 theaters because, uh, they really want to advertise the movie on the daily source code. And I said, 09:16.280 --> 09:19.800 send me a DVD and they said, well, we can't do that because, you know, if piracy, as it 09:19.800 --> 09:26.440 thanks for the trust. But we predicted it, Patricia and I predicted it would be a summer blockbuster. 09:26.440 --> 09:32.120 So that definitely came true. It's a way in brothers. You know, you can almost expect a good 09:32.120 --> 09:37.400 silly laugh from them. And of course, I'd like to be properly medicated when I go. But I'm going 09:37.400 --> 09:44.040 to go see it. I think I'll take Christina for sure. Turning on the TV in the past two days, all I see 09:44.040 --> 09:49.320 on television. Of course, this is summer, right? And the summertime, um, it's all reruns and 09:49.400 --> 09:56.520 not all reruns with most of it is. And, um, it's all about Mel. That's right. Mel Gibson, 09:56.520 --> 10:03.560 his career is over. The superstar has fallen. It's like, geez, I can't believe the crap that 10:03.560 --> 10:08.680 they're talking. So, you know, look, first of all, of course, you shouldn't drive them to the influence 10:08.680 --> 10:12.680 of alcohol. And, you know, maybe he yelled at the officer and you know, maybe it was, 10:13.640 --> 10:19.480 maybe it was inappropriate what he said. But, you know, for to say, his career is, and this is 10:19.480 --> 10:25.080 very consistent. You know, his career is on the brain, gets teetering and maybe he does have a real 10:25.080 --> 10:31.640 problem with alcohol. You know, just, uh, it's just people are just jumping on this with joy almost. 10:33.640 --> 10:39.400 It reminds me a lot of the internet, by the way. If anyone fucks up for for any reason or even 10:39.400 --> 10:44.280 looks like they've fucked up, people jump on it. This has led me to the conclusion that whenever 10:44.280 --> 10:52.040 you have, how should I put it? Whenever there's no risk of the person you're talking about, 10:52.040 --> 10:57.640 punching you in the face, particularly when, um, you're separated by a series of tubes, 10:58.440 --> 11:03.880 known as the internet, and there's almost complete anonymity. And even if they know who you are, 11:03.880 --> 11:07.960 still, you know, you could be separated by thousands of miles of distance. People will say 11:08.040 --> 11:13.160 the darnedest things about you. They really will. And she don't have to be Mel Gibson who messes up 11:13.160 --> 11:17.800 and then all these jackasses on television are just taking the Mickey out of you all the time. It can be 11:17.800 --> 11:23.800 anybody. Uh, it'll be interesting to see as we move forward in the proverbial 15 minutes of fame 11:23.800 --> 11:29.400 for everybody. How many people really like being the center of attention anywhere? It's just, it's, 11:30.760 --> 11:35.560 it's so easy for people to take shots. This is what happens. You know, I see this, we were talking 11:35.640 --> 11:44.840 about this yesterday as well, that I've, I've yet to see a mailing list or, um, anywhere where people 11:44.840 --> 11:50.520 can be a forum, you know, anywhere where people can basically collaborate, ever end in anything good, 11:50.520 --> 11:57.400 or have an indefinite life cycle at the end of the day. People start disagreeing and, and then the 11:57.400 --> 12:03.000 flame war start and then the, the, the, the signal to noise ratio of that particular channel of 12:03.000 --> 12:09.560 information just becomes crap. You know, and it is. It's human nature. I think it's, it's, that's 12:09.560 --> 12:16.760 is why we're at war all over the fucking place. It's the same thing. I guess humans just don't have 12:16.760 --> 12:20.760 their shit together yet. And all these hundreds of millions of years and we still haven't really 12:20.760 --> 12:27.240 figured it out. In our Troy needs an iPod contest for those of you who have been participating, 12:27.240 --> 12:32.600 what I've been looking for is, um, an even better domain name telling me why you deserve an 12:32.600 --> 12:37.000 iPod. Troy, Rutter, of course, started this off with Troy needs an iPod.com. And he actually on 12:37.000 --> 12:42.440 that site, he had started collecting money for the iPod that he needs, um, and yesterday I said, 12:42.440 --> 12:47.320 because he kicked off the whole thing and I felt kind of bad. I said that would send him an iPod. 12:48.280 --> 12:53.480 And, uh, he sent back a note and said, for those wondering about the $57 I collected, uh, 12:53.480 --> 12:59.880 through Troy needs an iPod.com. I'm going to go ahead and donate it to the blank children's hospital 12:59.880 --> 13:05.160 in Des Moines, Iowa. I know, keep the donation page up until yesterday, of course. So now it's down. 13:05.160 --> 13:10.680 Good. Troy, that's very cool, dude. And by, I think Friday will choose the winner. Of course, 13:10.680 --> 13:15.640 part of the requirement is that the domain name. I don't care if you register it with GoDaddy. You're 13:15.640 --> 13:21.160 not using checkout code DSC3, which gives you the domain name for $6.95 for an entire year. 13:22.040 --> 13:24.120 Shoot. I should get myself a Boeing for that one. 13:24.520 --> 13:30.200 I don't care if you register with GoDaddy, but you do have to register it. I mean, 13:30.200 --> 13:34.280 come on. It's got to actually end part of the whole joke is if it resolves to something. 13:35.880 --> 13:41.640 So make sure you do if you want to be eligible, uh, for, uh, for the drawing, for the announcement 13:41.640 --> 13:47.160 of the winner on Friday. A couple of voicemails that came in that I should share with you. 13:47.880 --> 13:56.600 The number, of course, is a new jersey, which will work best for you Skypeers plus 201 6565657 13:56.600 --> 14:04.040 or in London, O2076813753. Um, it was a little party in, uh, second life the other day. I think 14:04.040 --> 14:10.680 got some calls regarding that. Let's see here. Now Adam and Britney, 14:11.320 --> 14:16.760 Mason, if you're listening, it's going then just so, so. Okay. So Britney, of course, 14:18.520 --> 14:23.960 kind of runs the pod show island in second life, but has, has built her own, uh, pod show plus page. 14:23.960 --> 14:27.080 It Britney Mason, our pod show dot com. This is what Go name is talking about. 14:27.080 --> 14:32.760 The second life again. It is Mike Turner, real life name. I've just checked out your page. Britney, 14:33.640 --> 14:39.960 looks all right to me. We have pod show page. Britney Mason dot pot show dot com. 14:39.960 --> 14:45.480 But I'm not so long to rise growing there. Um, so there's a, just looking to see the shows you 14:45.480 --> 14:52.280 big. And there's one who's been digging you for something like 40 shows, 75 digs, and quite a few 14:52.280 --> 14:58.120 in your, uh, underrised air. Um, so it's anyway, I'm off the bed now. I'll pick on second life 14:58.200 --> 15:05.080 all night. Yeah. Um, uh, just me. Oh, by the way, I forgot saying last week's comment. 15:05.080 --> 15:11.080 I'm a scruncher, not a soldier. Bye. All right. I'm sorry. If you're scruncher, you can't be on the show 15:11.080 --> 15:18.840 anymore. It's officially banned. Yeah. It's kind of what I like about, uh, about those personal pages 15:18.840 --> 15:23.240 is that you, you don't have to be a podcaster and you can still promote your favorite shows. And 15:23.240 --> 15:27.560 there's a lot of stuff in there that works. And the people like Britney definitely latch on to that. 15:28.360 --> 15:32.520 Hi, then it's mini Paul from the UK, uh, although I'm not calling for the UK. I'm currently on 15:32.520 --> 15:39.320 holiday in North America, driving around my little Honda, and uh, this is into DSC 427. And I was 15:39.320 --> 15:44.840 hearing your comments by getting all spam, uh, at your email, Adam at curry.com. I wanted, uh, 15:44.840 --> 15:50.040 when I first started mini Paul.co.uk, and I had a mail to link set up there, and I was getting a 15:50.040 --> 15:54.680 head of a lot of spam. And, uh, I read an article that we said that if you have a website, it's best 15:54.760 --> 15:59.800 to have your contact email address as a picture. So you just have a picture file on the home page, 15:59.800 --> 16:03.320 there, rather than a mail to link. And then the web pool is can't find your email address, because 16:03.320 --> 16:08.040 I'll see they can't read pictures. And it worked really well, and it reduced my spam by hell of a lot. 16:08.040 --> 16:12.680 And, uh, almost none now, actually. And so I hope that one helps you out, maybe you could try 16:12.680 --> 16:17.080 that out as a one suggestion and get you with a spam. And I can't have a good work with baby source code. 16:17.080 --> 16:21.000 And I'll talk to you again soon. Bye, bye. You know, actually, I think I discovered something 16:21.080 --> 16:25.720 really cool about, you know, I had all these problems. Thank you, by the way, for, I'm quite aware 16:25.720 --> 16:30.200 of you. The more your email addresses out there. And of course, mine is all over the place. And I've 16:30.200 --> 16:38.760 had curry dot com for, uh, krikey. How many years have I had curry dot com 15 years? No, that's too long. 16:38.760 --> 16:44.920 That's too long. Maybe 12 years, something like that. 93, 13 years. Yeah, probably, probably about 13 years. 16:45.800 --> 16:51.880 Um, your email addresses out there. Your domain name is out there. It gets on all the lists. 16:53.080 --> 16:57.720 Particularly if it's anywhere that a web crawler can get to, you're absolutely right. That's a great way. 16:57.720 --> 17:04.200 There are a lot of people who will say, you know, Adam at 80 curry dot com. That's what I put down 17:05.480 --> 17:12.920 because a lot of crawlers are looking for the, uh, the ad sign to use that. Ah, another email address. I can spam. 17:13.400 --> 17:21.160 Who knows, maybe his wife will want to buy pills from me. Um, oh, man. I'm so fried. 17:21.800 --> 17:26.680 I wasn't going to say. Oh, yeah. So I think I've actually discovered something cool. If, if you, 17:27.640 --> 17:34.440 actually shut off, you bounce email from the domain name long enough. I guess what, uh, even these 17:34.440 --> 17:39.640 spammers are are kind of sophisticated. Eventually, they just say, fuck it. This is no good. We're 17:39.640 --> 17:44.280 going to remove that one from the list because we're not getting any, uh, we're getting bounces from it. 17:44.280 --> 17:49.880 And yeah, so it screws up your email communications for a little while, but I don't know if I actually missed anything. 17:51.080 --> 17:57.640 What I, what I don't know, it doesn't hurt me. And the spam has reduced almost to zero. It really has. 17:57.640 --> 18:02.680 So I have to say, you know, a surefire way to absolutely get rid of the spammers is just a 18:02.680 --> 18:07.640 bounce message is back out. And for, well, you know, of course, everyone gets the bounces. But if you can do that 18:07.720 --> 18:12.680 for a week, if you can do it for two weeks, it's even better because man, it really does work. 18:12.680 --> 18:18.680 Hey, Adam, jump from the Netherlands calling this morning. I drove to the office, 18:18.680 --> 18:26.200 listening to the Charlie of Friday edition. And you mentioned the podcast of Mark Yosimoto, 18:26.200 --> 18:32.840 Nenkov called, where the hell is my fucking latte or where's my fucking latte? And been 18:33.080 --> 18:39.960 listening to the, say, the cause of hell way for two weeks now, and it awesome. So the first thing I did, 18:39.960 --> 18:47.960 what I got into the office, start up the pod show and looking for the new 18:49.960 --> 18:57.080 Mark Yosimoto podcast. And there was no link in your show notes. So 18:57.480 --> 19:05.720 try it again through the search module of pod show and there it was. So no problem at all. 19:05.720 --> 19:12.840 Got it and download it and go and listen to it and hope it's as good as the particular 19:12.840 --> 19:20.440 hotel way because that show rocks. Take care. I'm a folder. Yes, of course. Of course you are. 19:21.320 --> 19:27.000 Yeah, the search is working. That part works pretty well. I think you'll enjoy it. 19:27.000 --> 19:30.760 And I was amazed to find that there are already 10 episodes of that show out there. And yeah, 19:30.760 --> 19:34.680 I'll put a, I'll put a link in the show notes today. So you can find it easily. But yeah, 19:34.680 --> 19:40.200 this search does does work. I think actually we're going to start putting that show on on 19:40.200 --> 19:45.160 serious as well. In fact, it may even be today because as I'm looking at the lineup for those of 19:45.160 --> 19:51.160 you listening to to this podcast on this serious stars 102, of course I do recommend you go to 19:51.160 --> 19:56.120 daily source code.com so you can listen to the full shows because you only get about half an hour of 19:57.080 --> 20:01.720 me. Of course, that may be more than enough for you. We have a special 30 minute segment from 20:01.720 --> 20:06.680 Pod Show LA coming up right after the daily source code. And I believe today, where's my 20:06.680 --> 20:09.800 fucking latte? It might be one of the shows. After that dawn and Drew, then we're going to bring 20:09.800 --> 20:16.360 you the rumor girls. Very popular video podcast, which translates beautifully to audio. And then 20:16.360 --> 20:23.320 check this out, man. Peter, you've got to send me more information. So between eight and nine tonight, 20:23.400 --> 20:34.280 we have the fantastic podcast known as the rotating guest slot. After that, it's a use radio and 20:34.280 --> 20:40.360 Scott Siggler will wrap it up. He's on all this week between 930 and 10. If you've never heard 20:40.360 --> 20:45.720 Scott Siggler and his pateo books, you've got to listen tonight between 930 and 10. That's Eastern 20:45.720 --> 20:51.160 time right here on serious stars 102. You got about, was it a couple more minutes with you guys? 20:51.160 --> 20:53.160 Ah, you know what? Just time enough. 21:21.240 --> 21:28.120 Name in the band after he's cop. Nice to know. Roger. So good to hear from you. What are you 21:28.120 --> 21:36.440 doing, man? You don't call it off and enough. Yeah. Today is MTV's 25th birthday. And you've 21:36.440 --> 21:40.840 probably read more stories about the fact that MTV is not doing anything to celebrate it, 21:40.840 --> 21:46.040 then you've actually heard stories. So I figured that I could take 10 or 15 minutes and give you 21:46.120 --> 21:51.720 a couple of stories. White Snake is a good start, Roger. Actually, I did hang out a little bit 21:51.720 --> 21:57.080 with white snake. Less because of David Coverdale and more because of Tony Katana, 21:57.080 --> 22:03.480 I have to be honest. I'm also a Adrian Vanderberg, a friend of mine from Holland, who Patricia 22:03.480 --> 22:10.680 also had known for many, many years. When they were at the height of their heyday, he was in the band. 22:11.320 --> 22:17.320 And he's a fine, fine Dutch guitarist. He still does all kinds of music stuff. 22:17.320 --> 22:22.120 Well, I could share what kind of music stuff, but I'll find that out. And so whenever they went 22:22.120 --> 22:27.080 town, we'd hook up or Patricia now would go see the concert. And when he hooked up with Tony 22:27.080 --> 22:32.120 Katana, that was kind of cool, you know, because, you know, I could look at Tony Katana all night. 22:33.080 --> 22:37.080 And at one point, I don't know if this is a cool story, it's kind of sad. You know, they've been 22:37.160 --> 22:41.720 separated. I think they're married really only in the last couple of years. And then she went on 22:41.720 --> 22:48.440 to date apparently, O.J. Simpson. Now she's married to a baseball player. I think she also 22:49.000 --> 22:55.800 didn't she also go out with one of the guys and rat? So, you know, Tony's been around for sure. 22:55.800 --> 22:59.800 But at their wedding, which we were invited to, when we went to, it was at the four seasons in Los 22:59.800 --> 23:06.440 Angeles. It was very expensive, very, you know, just a perfect wedding. But after everything, the 23:06.520 --> 23:11.160 reception, at the ceremony, we just went to the reception, we didn't go to the actual ceremony. 23:12.200 --> 23:18.760 Tony got pretty hammered. And I really got to tell you, and Patricia will back me up on this. 23:18.760 --> 23:23.160 She was sending off all kinds of weird signals towards the two of us. I mean, you know, like in 23:23.160 --> 23:30.920 the sexual sense. And that was really weird. We attributed it to alcohol, of course, 23:31.160 --> 23:39.160 but it just felt very uncomfortable. It always felt she was a bit skanky, honestly. 23:41.000 --> 23:47.240 I don't know, have any other white snake stories? Actually, I don't have any other. If Patricia 23:47.240 --> 23:51.400 were here, we talked about the time that we went out with Rudy Sarzo and his wife, the drummer. 23:52.040 --> 23:57.080 And we went to a movie. This again was in Los Angeles. And it was just like a hang. He's like, 23:57.080 --> 24:00.840 hey, you want to go to the movie? Yeah, we'll go hang out in the movies. And Patricia, 24:00.840 --> 24:04.120 remembers going into the movie theater, doesn't remember anything because she fell asleep. 24:04.120 --> 24:10.840 It fell fast asleep. Ah, I've only she were here, then I could, uh, I could really hammer 24:10.840 --> 24:16.600 into her about how she falls asleep at all. The all movies we ever go to, at least all the 24:16.600 --> 24:22.600 ones that I like going to. I think it was probably total recall or something. Anyway, as I said, 24:22.600 --> 24:26.680 Pacific Coast Hellways up next for those of you checking us out on serious stars 102. 24:27.160 --> 24:31.640 And don't forget that rotating guest lot show. You, you do not want to miss that. It's coming 24:31.640 --> 24:37.160 up just a bit later. And we'll be on all this week, um, except actually I will be on every single 24:37.160 --> 24:44.120 day this week, um, bringing you the best of, uh, of the pod show on serious. Have a good one, everybody. 24:44.840 --> 24:50.520 Now for those of you still sticking around. Let me just look, I wrote down a couple, uh, a couple 24:50.520 --> 24:56.200 of different things I was going to talk about some MTV stories. Uh, what should we do? Uh, 24:56.200 --> 25:03.560 another, uh, another celebrity hitting on me this time. You like this? Uh, it was Marty Grah. 25:03.560 --> 25:11.320 In I think it was 90 or 91, uh, MTV used to do live at Marty Grah. I think this was the second year 25:11.320 --> 25:17.800 they'd done it. And I have to say that was a fantastic time to have basically a police escort 25:17.880 --> 25:21.320 24 hours a day because, you know, there was no other way you could get through the crowds if you 25:21.320 --> 25:25.880 needed to get to the, to the, to the French quarter to do, uh, do your segments back from the hotel. 25:25.880 --> 25:31.720 It's just no way. And, and New Orleans police really knew how to, how to take care of, uh, of logistics, 25:31.720 --> 25:36.280 particularly in big crowds, just amazing how much patience they have and, and, and how well it 25:36.280 --> 25:42.600 will always work. So we were doing, I think it was three days of Marty Grah. And you can imagine that 25:42.600 --> 25:47.400 basically everybody is partying. You're not just the people around us, but the artists who came 25:47.400 --> 25:53.080 down, uh, the other celebrities who were brought on to the show, uh, we were all partying the 25:53.080 --> 25:58.360 camera. People were partying. Everyone was partying. It was just one big party. And this is actually 25:58.360 --> 26:03.880 the predecessor to all those spring break shows. I think it, I think someone just caught on 26:03.880 --> 26:07.480 saying, you know what? Let's just figure out what we can go party and then we'll put a budget together. 26:07.480 --> 26:13.000 So we can, uh, party. Oh, yeah. And we'll also do some television. Um, but it was during that 26:13.080 --> 26:17.320 particular, on by the way, you know, Patricia was really into the whole show as your tits thing. 26:17.320 --> 26:22.680 And so she was doing that from the balcony and, uh, and quite honestly, there was this, uh, 26:22.680 --> 26:31.240 she has some nice ones to show, you know, the guys. Uh, but then, um, Matt Dylan started hating on me. 26:33.080 --> 26:37.960 And so Patricia had gone to bed back to the hotel when I had a couple more segments to do. And then 26:37.960 --> 26:42.200 Matt Dylan and, and I can't remember, there was some other, I don't know, I think she was an 26:42.200 --> 26:47.880 actress. She had, gosh, my brain is so fraught. I wish I could remember. He was like, yeah, you know, 26:47.880 --> 26:53.560 the three of us should hook up with this other actress. I'm like, dude, I don't think so. 26:55.560 --> 27:00.520 Want another one? How about the Michael Jackson weekend? I think I've told this story before. 27:02.600 --> 27:11.000 But, um, and by the way, I have no, uh, crazy, uh, stories about, uh, massive drinking and drug abuse. 27:11.080 --> 27:16.120 I've, I've never really seen that at MTV. Really, never in, in the almost eight years that I 27:16.120 --> 27:21.720 worked there, never really saw any massive party and going on at any of the offices or studios. 27:21.720 --> 27:26.680 Yes, some of the executives, but they weren't all different building. And they always did a kind of 27:26.680 --> 27:34.920 quietly. So Michael Jackson was, uh, slated to appear on the video music awards. And, you know, 27:34.920 --> 27:39.240 the music business, of course, the traditional mainstream music business. Everything's, uh, 27:39.320 --> 27:44.920 part of a deal or a setup. Nothing wrong with it, by the way. But when you get Michael Jackson on the 27:44.920 --> 27:49.400 video music awards, you know you're going to have to do something in return. And that's something, 27:49.400 --> 27:56.920 uh, consisted of two parts. One was the Michael Jackson weekend. And yeah, I can't remember which 27:56.920 --> 28:03.560 video was a world premiering or planetary premiering, remember those. But, you know, we, of course, 28:03.880 --> 28:09.720 MTV committed to doing a Michael Jackson weekend, which basically means four times an hour, 28:09.720 --> 28:14.040 maybe five times an hour you would see a Michael Jackson video. And this, of course, is in hours 28:14.040 --> 28:20.440 when every single, uh, when everything set the commercials was a music video. And he also wanted 28:20.440 --> 28:29.000 it his own award. And, uh, and it had to be given to him, uh, the first time round. And so what was 28:29.080 --> 28:35.800 concocted was the Michael Jackson video Vanguard of the Year award. And it's not just the 28:35.800 --> 28:40.280 video Vanguard award. It was, I don't know if they, uh, they probably don't say that anymore. They 28:40.280 --> 28:45.720 may not even give the award out anymore. But that was the point a new award category was to be created 28:45.720 --> 28:51.880 called the video Vanguard, the, sorry, the Michael Jackson video Vanguard award. Kind of like the, 28:51.880 --> 28:58.680 the Heisman trophy. Yeah. Um, and, and part of that, and that was interesting is that I had to 28:58.680 --> 29:08.120 give it to him. And this was, um, this was 1990 Patricia was very, very pregnant. And I mean, 29:08.120 --> 29:11.720 she was about ready to pop. And I'm like, dude, I'm not going to fly to Los Angeles. I don't give 29:11.720 --> 29:17.000 a fuck if it's Michael Jackson. I'm not going, you know, I can't leave my wife here alone. And even 29:17.000 --> 29:23.240 though we knew she had two weeks, you know, anything could happen. So, um, MTV just kept begging. 29:23.240 --> 29:27.320 This is when they'd still beg me to do shit before they started to just like me, 29:27.320 --> 29:32.280 because of my attitude. And finally, I said, look, you fly my mother-in-law over first class. 29:32.840 --> 29:37.000 I'll go to Los Angeles. I'll do one day. I'll come back on the red eye. I'd, you know, and they 29:37.000 --> 29:44.680 did understand in all honesty. Um, so they finally complied and, um, flew to LA with Tom 29:44.680 --> 29:51.240 Freston, uh, who now, of course, is, uh, head of Viacom. Yeah, he was head of MTV networks at the time. 29:51.480 --> 29:58.920 He's a partier, by the way. And, um, we show up at the MJJ Studios, uh, Michael Jackson's 29:58.920 --> 30:06.040 own studio. And it was a very, very weird vibe, you know, come in and I swear to God, there must have been 30:07.880 --> 30:13.320 there must have been eight or nine kids running around. And they had their pretty young, um, and it 30:13.320 --> 30:18.600 got even more interesting because, uh, how he Mandel was, was there kind of like in the lounge area. 30:18.680 --> 30:22.680 And he was just kind of like hanging out, you know, and he, and he was doing the Bobby, Bobby's 30:22.680 --> 30:27.400 world voices, and these kids were, it was, it was a very bizarre scene just in general. 30:28.200 --> 30:33.320 And so, uh, you know, all right, let's, uh, let's do the, uh, let's do the award and, uh, you know, 30:33.320 --> 30:37.560 my, I was all Michael kind of roaming around and it was very, very soft spoken and you said, 30:37.560 --> 30:42.040 hi, he's not a small guy, by the way. He's got to be about six feet tall, close to it. Maybe 30:42.040 --> 30:49.000 even a little over, it's quite tall, slender. Um, so I have the award and, you know, we get ready for the, 30:49.000 --> 30:52.440 for a little video segment that we're going to do. And of course, a photographer is there. 30:53.080 --> 30:57.320 And, uh, you know, so we're kind of lining up the three of us, Michael in the middle, 30:57.320 --> 31:02.600 meet the left, Tom Freston to the right. And this is one guy who's only job at was was to Windex, 31:02.600 --> 31:07.480 Michael's shiny pants. I think they were latex or they were obviously more leather, but some kind of 31:07.560 --> 31:15.160 synthetic material. And so it, every, every five minutes. Rubbing it down. Okay, we're ready, 31:15.160 --> 31:19.800 everything shiny, we're all good to go. And, uh, we're standing next to each other and I start and 31:19.800 --> 31:24.360 then all of a sudden, I can see Michael, like kind of motion over to his guy and his guy comes over and 31:24.360 --> 31:29.320 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Guy leaves, you know, and we're all waiting like what the 31:29.320 --> 31:34.840 fuck was what, what is this all about? Guy comes back with an apple crate and he puts it down 31:34.920 --> 31:41.160 to the Michael can stand on the apple crate. So he is literally seven feet tall. I have a picture 31:41.160 --> 31:44.760 somewhere. It's been on, it's, I've published it on the internet a couple of times. I'll see if, uh, 31:44.760 --> 31:49.800 actually it might even be on my flicker account. And you'll see Michael Jackson literally stands, 31:49.800 --> 31:55.400 you know, four, five inches taller than I am, because he existed on standing on the apple crate. 31:58.200 --> 32:03.480 All right, I have no more. Yeah, I do have more. Should I do the, um, you know what, I'll keep the, 32:04.440 --> 32:10.840 the Sebastian Bach from Skid Row, uh, Red Square, Moscow Music Peace Festival. I think I'll keep that 32:10.840 --> 32:17.240 one for, uh, for another day. What I will bestow upon you, however, is one of the finalists for 32:17.240 --> 32:23.720 our EarthLink, uh, ad challenge. This is where, uh, you get to win valuable cash prizes for coming up 32:23.720 --> 32:28.840 with the best advertising for EarthLink. Visit adchallenge.podshow.com to hear all of the entries. 32:28.840 --> 32:34.760 Here's one of the finalists. So I believe it's already one $250, but uh, or $200, but it's vying for 32:34.760 --> 32:44.760 the grand prize. 32:44.760 --> 32:59.640 [ Music ] 32:59.640 --> 33:09.720 You know what? If that were actually one of the finalists, I would be amazed. 33:10.520 --> 33:14.280 That's another song I wanted to play for. Hey, everyone. This is Eugene tomorrow. My question 33:14.280 --> 33:20.440 for you is this. How long have you been with your internet service provider? How many times have 33:20.440 --> 33:26.680 you switched? My internet service provider is EarthLink, and I have been with them as a subscriber 33:26.680 --> 33:33.800 since April 17, 1998. Now, that's a long time before anyone had ever heard of iPods or podcasting 33:33.800 --> 33:39.480 or even cable or DSL broadband. For over eight years now, I have relied on EarthLink for internet 33:39.480 --> 33:45.640 connectivity and spam for email, and they have never let me down. If you are tired of bad 33:45.640 --> 33:50.920 service, inconsistent connectivity, constantly rising prices and email accounts full of spam, 33:51.400 --> 33:59.000 come on over where I am, EarthLink.net. Go to www.EarthLink.net, and you can get a great deal on 33:59.000 --> 34:06.360 internet service. Yeah, you know, as songs kind of go, it was pilot error, and I do apologize, 34:06.360 --> 34:11.560 but this is a song that I found on the pod save music now, where I can shoot since you've already 34:11.560 --> 34:14.840 heard it. Why don't we just play it? It's an instrumental at something different for the Charlie. 34:14.920 --> 34:20.600 It's a jazz track on the Charlie. Monica Herbsick. Just something fun. 34:22.440 --> 34:24.840 Enjoy. 34:26.250 --> 38:14.840 [ Music ] 38:14.840 --> 38:25.800 So, jazz on the Charlie. True American art form. And let me make a prediction. 38:25.800 --> 38:30.440 Jazz Swing. It's coming back. I guarantee you. You know how I know it's coming back, 38:30.440 --> 38:34.760 because you can feel it. You can feel it all over the pod save music.network at music.podshow.com. 38:34.760 --> 38:37.880 I kind of feel like I've done it. You guys have a disservice. I've been so 38:37.880 --> 38:42.520 mellow and tired this morning. I hope you don't mind. I hope you're able to sit through this, 38:43.400 --> 38:47.320 particularly because the show notes didn't tell you about that. I'll think up some other 38:47.320 --> 38:51.240 headline. I'll be back tomorrow. I promise I guess some sleeping will make my page work. Take 38:51.240 --> 38:58.440 everybody. Oh, sometimes I forget that. Another podshow podcast. 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