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This is Soccer Girl. I just
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Shadow Falls and it's scared me

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crapless.

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Meet all demands. You have been
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With sixty million dollars worth
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Then the next generation radio
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I like to think I'm flying into
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Coming to you from the affluent
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this is the daily source code

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Couple hot topics today

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First of all plenty of feedback
on Liam the 20 year old 21 year
old scumbag who's going out with
my daughter

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Ha ha ha ha a lot of you
responded to that also some pod
save music talk will get too
later on and

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You know the typical stuff
coming in on the voice

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I

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Yeah, why do you put a plus in
front of that well that only
works in your mobile phone if
you're using your mobile phone

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Then if you're another country
and you feel the urge to call
the Charlie you won't have to
dial any country access codes

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plus one two zero one six two
five six three five seven

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Hey Adam this is Corey you may
remember me from my last year I
had last year

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A PSA that you played on this
phone right after hurricane
Katrina to encourage people was
they could do for the

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To relieve with the hurricane
effort. I got a podcast the 501
key three cast

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You're not calling about that
though. I'm calling because
right now

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I'm a bundle of emotions this
weekend

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I'm getting married to the girl
that I love Katie Roach and

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Since I don't have a mountain
top to yell from I thought that
the early source code would
probably be the best thing that
I could get

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I'm so in love with this girl
and I if you could just play
this out to the world

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I'm so looking forward to this
weekend and

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Being together with friends and
family and I just want as many
people to hear it as possible

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I love the show man

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I was just listening and it's
kind of a calming voice to hear
you talk and while I'm getting
ready for everything driving
around doing all the last minute

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And so take care and thanks. Oh,
hey, by the way. I used to be a
scruncher

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Macomba now you can make me into
a folder

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Does your future wife know about
it? What is she that's the
important information when you
need to know can scrunchers and
folders live in perfect harmony
together

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That of course is the real
question

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Congratulations on the nocturals
check in from time to time. Let
us know how it's going and

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Shoot since I'm naked pictures

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It's a target cast so

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It's basically a podcast about
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You might find it interesting if
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some feedback on that as well

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Just call in or send an MP3 file
if you wish. Hey, I found out
about the riddles

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I

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Got pretty bored after after
three riddles and I think it was
going to be nine of them

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And I was really trying to
figure out who this was, but you
know it was a combination

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If you've listened to the past
couple of episodes of the daily
source code, you then you know
what I'm talking about

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Really a combination of really
crappy sound quality of these
riddles that were there were
being called in and it was
supposed to be a promo for a new
show and

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Turns out

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It was all Susanne's doing at
the diva cast and

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It's funny because I'm actually
already subscribed to the diva
cast

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I I know

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Susanne and Robin of course from
inside works and

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It popped up on my radar a
couple weeks ago and I started
listening to it and you know
what you don't need to come up
with any complicated riddles

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It's a good show. I'll happily
promote it for you. I do have
some suggestions though

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The last episode it really got
good and interesting because

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Even though yeah basically you
you you put

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You put to four divas in a room
and you get a lot of diva
clutch, you know and so that's

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That's not it is less annoying
than I thought it would be
because in interwoven amongst
all of that

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We're some really honest things
you guys were talking about

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lesbian feelings

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masturbation

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power

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Was it

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Pressure power pressure hoses

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You know if you can if you can
just keep the honesty coming
through from time the time real
honesty how women really feel

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As a guy. I'm very interested in
listening to that

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And I just bet I just bet there
some women out there who would
really enjoy listening to it as
well

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diva cast dot pot show dot com
and thanks very much guys for
the riddles

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Next time just you know send me
a promo

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and

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It's good for the voice now
because the first thing you were
talking about the

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Charist and

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The first thing that popped in
my head was when you were
talking about that was you know
I grew up and watching

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All kinds of air air more movie
airplane movies were

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You know either there's a high
jacker or there's a something
wrong with the plane

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And the first thing that the air
sewerist says to the pilot or
something

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You know don't tell the
passengers

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We don't want to fight in them
or whatever and I think that's

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That's it totally the opposite
of what's going on here. I mean,
they're just like you said
they're just scaring people and
all that

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I just if I took the same
approach as the

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As I do in these movies and like
I'm sure they do in real life
because they don't want to scare
people

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Is you know, I think we all be
better if they didn't

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That they're I totally agree
with you when you say

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You know don't tell anybody

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You know just quietly get these
guys and then put them away

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So I just thought I'd leave that
note

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I'm currently driving around
here and

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I wanted to call so that I don't
forget about it so

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All right, popular and that's
why you put a plus in plan of in
front of the one right

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So you could call immediately
from your cell phone before you
forgot, you know

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That is kind of interesting and
that's the reason I played this
this piece of feedback is
because

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It does seem like you know all
the old movies and I'm talking
movies from

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Before the 80s probably it was
always about you know we don't
want to alarm the population we
want to keep

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Everyone everyone's feeling
secure

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And there's a lot to be said for
that and it seems like we're
doing exactly the opposite

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really does

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from

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From the president through the
media all the way through all
the way down because it it just
results in in so much

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Action, you know, it's a action
immediate reaction

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It keeps people scared keeps
people watching television and
keeps people

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scared and and

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keeps people scared and that's
what it does

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You know, I'm I'm a bit
disappointed with all the
aviation podcast that are out
there

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I have a whole channel on my
podshow plus account you can
find it at atom.podshow.com

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It's a whole channel with
nothing but aviation podcasts

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And I love it because I I'm
subscribed to the channel and
once I'm new pops up it's it's
right there no matter which show
it's from it's an aviation show

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I know that and so I listen to
it

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I'm you know, I'm hearing
references to the security
measures and the terror threats
and the

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fear that's being spread but I
don't really hear our aviation

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Producers of independent content
coming up with anything
earthshattering and I thought
we'd get more insights into
everything

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Maybe they just don't know or
maybe they're afraid to talk
about it

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You know looking for looking for
some action there

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This is what this is supposed to
be about you know we can get
some different noise from people
who are in the front lines

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Just a subtle hint

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Was a USA today article that
came out that who sent this to
me Mark Lawrence

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Elite security lines bug some
but not others

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I don't want to get into the
whole conversation again, but
there is some real good
information there about who
actually owns the line

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The property the lines are on
what the job of the TSA is and
why there can be different types
of lines

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and why it's not a an equal
basis that all are

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All are made forced to wait

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And some different opinions
interesting to read up a little
link to to that story in the
show notes

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So yesterday Patricia and I were
talking about Liam this is a
21-year-old kid who was

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Almost Christina's boyfriend my
16 my just 16-year-old daughter

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I express express my my feelings
and of course Christina walked
in and

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And she'd heard most of it, but
she's a you know

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She's a real trooper

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She has her opinion she she lets
it know be known what she feels
and what she thinks but you guys
man you don't you don't
sugarcoat anything

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Is the first response to Liam

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I had to look that up Eddie
Haskell fictional character on
leave it to beaver the kind of
kid your parents

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Don't want you hanging around
with and

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Notorious brown nose or towards
elder

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Fantastic I got to get a clip of
Eddie Haskell and show it to
Patricia because she wasn't in
America when that was on and it
never really

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Indicated that well outside of
the US but

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Excellent excellent excellent
example of the kind of guy I
think he is

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I had him this is Stephen
Damning South Florida. I was
just

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Listening to your latest daily
source coat and about your your
daughter and being 16 and dating
a 21-year-old swine ball

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Very interesting to hear what
other people go through because
it's coming for me too

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I've got two daughters five and

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Ferry and I'm waiting for the
day just and here's what I was
told by a good friend

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I think you need to take some of
those goals records and and
various other

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Things from your career down off
the wall and put a few nice
glass cases up with guns and

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Don't have to load them you
don't have to use when you don't
have to

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Hey Liam come on in man. I want
to introduce you to my friends.
Yeah, they're over here my
friends Smith and Wesson

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Shoot anybody but when somebody
walks in to date your daughter.
They should know that you like
guns and

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That just might help a little
bit. Yeah, hey, dude

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I've been known to smoke gunja
and I like guns. You really
don't want to piss me off. I
don't already guns myself

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But as my daughter's approached
the age of 16. I may be

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tempted to make that purchase
and put those glass cases on my
wall as well

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I am 43 years old by the way. I
got a very late start having
kids. I got two little twins in
the five-year-old daughter as
well

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so

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I feel your pain and I know it's
coming for me too. So I am a
folder my kids are folders

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And I come from a long line of
folders have a wonderful day

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We'll talk to you soon. All
right. Thank you. I do have a
couple of firearms

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Some menacing looking ones. I've
got a Japanese sub-machine gun
that my grandfather brought back
from the south Pacific

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I have no ammo for it, but I
could definitely flaunt that one
around

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The interesting idea. I don't
know how effective it will be,
but I do understand where you're
coming from and

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You just wait my friend. Call
back in and what about 11 years
when your first kid hit 16?
We'll talk again then, okay?

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And whenever there's something
that is troubling me whenever
there's something that that I
need to learn whenever

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I need to just like in shadow
falls. I need to turn to my
elders for answers. There he is!

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Oh

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You've got questions. He's got a
sad life repair man coming after
you sad life repair man

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[ Music ]

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Sad life repair man

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Yeah

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My body. Uncle Jesse

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Peter give me some advice on
Liam first. I got to say I
always love it when Patricia's
on

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But having raised two girls I
was screaming during yesterday's
show in fact when Christina
showed up

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I had to play that section three
times because I was laughing so
hard. I was missing stuff

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That girl has a sharp wit

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But that's not why I'm here

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Because of your description of
uneasiness looking at all of
those

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Hot young babes the same age as
your daughter. I had a similar
experience once

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One of my daughters brought a
girlfriend home one

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Summer after noon and they asked
if they could change the channel
on the TV to see something on
MTV

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Shoot it might even have been
you. I don't remember and here's
why I don't remember

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My daughter's guest

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late on the floor on her stomach
in front of the TV

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Prophing up her head with her
hands elbows on the floor. I

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Was seated on a sofa behind her.
I

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Happened to look down at her

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She took my breath away

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She was wearing

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tiny little

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Terry cloth shorts

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Her beautifully smooth tan legs
revealed the faintest whispers
of tiny

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Laund hares listening in the
sunlight streaming from the
window

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I followed her legs with my eyes

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First those perfectly curved
calves

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Then to her firm young thighs
and then to the curve of her
ample but a

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Extending out of those tiny
little shorts

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Immediately I could feel myself
responding physically to this
incredibly

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Lushes sight

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Almost as quickly my mind
started trying to construct some
fantasy some scenario and then
she turned and spoke

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Thanks for letting us watch that
Mr. Fenton

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What channel were you watching?
I'll switch it back for you

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Never had the words

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Mr. Fenton ever cut so deeply

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Clearly I was a ledgerous old
man who should be ashamed of
himself

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Please this is between you and I

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Don't ever speak of this

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That was just about the most
disturbing thing you've ever
sent to me, Peter

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What the hell is wrong with you,
man

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All right, thanks for the advice
I guess

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Yeah, it got worse and really
got worse yesterday. I didn't
even realize how much worse it
got

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I'm total doofus showing my age

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AC

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Prof Ross here

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It was named to

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Do see four five one. I just get
this out feeling that Christina
and Liam are just cringing when
you originally called it panic
on the disco

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Thank God at the end of it. You
changed it to panic at the disco

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Being a father. I'm just afraid
my daughter's gonna laugh at me
one day and I don't know if we
want Liam out of the picture

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We got to get the names of her
bands right

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That's it, man

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Scrunch her then fold there. I

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Can't believe I did though. I
didn't go back and listen so I
take your word for it

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Probably my brain was going a
little bit too fast for my mouth
and I wanted to say panic

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I could have said panic on the
disco panic at the disco on the
podcast music network

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That's probably where I got
messed up. Yeah, yeah, that
would be like really really
stupid

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She didn't correct me so she may
not have caught onto it
immediately because

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Usually she does correct me

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Quickly when I say something
stupid. Oh, but it got much
worse

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Hey Adam was there from the
doctor's your podcast right here

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Wait wait some listen the new
Charlie

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What is it that's so 451

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panic at the disco

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But the sins and not the
tragedies

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This song is following me
following me every bar. I have a
club every radio station

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I listen to every store the
freaking wall everywhere for
Christ's I was

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I

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Skate this song. I was a
freaking wall man

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It's by the order and I have the
goddamn song now. It's on my
morning Charlie. I'm trying to
have a cup of coffee

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Well, he late afternoon when I
call out of my heart at whole
bed

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Had my cup of coffee, you know
listen to Charlie

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That is that song again. Oh my
god. I had her to song to follow
me this way

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Says mercy plague and their
dance sexy Danny. I'm quite out
with a heavy people ever heard
of changing the goddamn song

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To grab an all forgetting
another band. It's on the right
traditional radio

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Yeah, coming like I'm modified
folder

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I took all of it around the hand
move it from the head and set a
hand and then I use it

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Great, find us at Dorcissure dot
blog spot dot com door to be

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Yeah nice phone connection

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Yeah, try some decuffs and say
on next time, maybe you know

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That's interesting point you
make there

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I have not heard that song
before the first time I heard it
is when it showed up in a top 10
list in the pod tip music
network

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I saw that it had just been
added to the PMN

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I know panic at the disco are of
course

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I'm not familiar with what their
current singles are. I just
don't listen to the radio in the
car

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Sometimes I'll turn on BBC, but
it's usually more talk than then
music sometimes virgin radio

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But then it's more because of my
sentiment to my age

23:33.140 --> 23:35.140
Um

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Who is that interesting

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That it's kind of a reverse role
play here instead of the you
know the the young up and coming
hip stuff

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That is independent coming
through what we used to call
college radio making it into
mainstream now

23:48.900 --> 23:54.820
It's these mainstream players
who are trying to make it into
my world from the reverse
direction

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Now I may not be the norm

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But I think it's pretty
interesting to see this happen

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There's also some some big
issues with

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Established artists putting
their music on the ponts hit
music network

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Which are going to discuss in
the continuing podcast of the
daily source code those of you
checking out serious stars one

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Oh two if you want to hear that
part of the conversation

24:15.860 --> 24:20.420
Go to daily source code calm
listen to the show. It's episode
dsc four five two

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We got more cool stuff for you
guys and

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Here on the podcast let me get
it started because there's some
issues outside the United States
that

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I haven't really been ignoring
them. I've heard about them, but
finally someone put it into a
concise

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audio feedback and

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Was talk about it. Hi Adam. This
is Norman from the German
noncast podcast together with
two other people

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I'm also doing the pot parade
the so-called potsafe music
charts

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Which is very popular year in
Germany

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Every fortnight we present
potsafe music in a way that can
be compared to traditional radio
charge shows for example from
the eighties

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But of course, it's free and
available as a podcast

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Love the German accents. Yeah,
and your English is impeccable
dude. It's so incredibly good.
You're it's nice

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It's very nice to listen to but
it's it's kind of funny the same
time. It's like Colonel Klink
sending me audio feedback

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Many tracks are taken from the
potsafe music network as well
and until now it was very
pleasing

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Because these bands and artists
listed there often is
established nice and productive
email contacts with us

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Right on okay

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I'm with you so far at the
moment. We are experiencing some
new and unforeseeable
difficulties because of the fact

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That several well-known bands
are now listed in the potsafe
music network

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He is Jürgen another well-known
potcaster from Germany who is
also playing potsafe music in a
popular weekly podcast show dude

25:42.100 --> 25:47.700
It's just like a multi report
from Germany. Hi Adam. This is
Jürgen from the German podcast
cafe

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There are some serious issues
and a lot of emotional
discussions in German podcast
forums

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Concerning the PMN and music
from well-known artists in the
PMN as depurble or toothpick or
panic at the disco or Alice
Cooper or James Brown

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Could you please send me a link
to where these forums are I
mean?

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I'm subscribed to a couple
different

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RSS feeds German podcast RSS
feeds, but if you could really
show me where the conversation
is going because it's

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When I just parse my news
reader, you know, it's it
doesn't always pop out and I
can't always get

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Context without seeing you know
the full story

26:26.820 --> 26:30.260
Just the the synopsis isn't
enough for me. I can read the
German

26:30.260 --> 26:34.580
I just need to really focus on
it. Please send me some URLs
where I can follow along with
this conversation

26:34.580 --> 26:37.620
But I know where you're going
because this is a big one. Lee
to mention two of them

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We cannot believe and by the way
German lawyers confirmed to that
not officially but in private
discussions

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That these songs are really
potsafe because they are listed
in the German Gema or American
ASCAP

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Database by the majority

26:53.460 --> 27:01.940
Playing these songs in a podcast
would violate German copyright
law and I predict the German
Gema would sue every podcast
that was playing these songs

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Without a so called newly
created podcast license from
Gema. Okay, let me just hop into
this for a second

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There is a difference in
jurisdiction between ASCAP BMI

27:15.060 --> 27:17.700
Who handle the United States
territory and

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All the other

27:20.260 --> 27:25.140
Versions of ASCAP BMI they're
not affiliated in the
Netherlands. It's Buma Stemera

27:26.820 --> 27:31.140
As I said into Germany it's Gema
every country has their own
version of this and

27:31.940 --> 27:36.580
The way the potsafe music
network operates of course was
predominantly built with

27:37.380 --> 27:41.460
With the United States market in
mind and now we're seeing you
know that there are some other
issues

27:42.980 --> 27:44.980
Is that any owner of

27:45.220 --> 27:49.540
Copyrighted music of the words
in the lyrics in the United
States

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Can offer any type of license
here she wants to anyone

27:55.060 --> 27:58.340
Within the United States
jurisdiction that that much I
know for sure

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So part of the deal with radio
stations is

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And television stations and any
other broadcast medium is hey if
you play this song

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You have to pay a royalty and
here's your rate card the
potsafe music network

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It says hey

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You can play any song that I as
the owner of the words in the
music put up on the potsafe
music network

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And you have to pay me nothing
as long as it's a podcast if
it's broadcast then it's a
different story

28:30.740 --> 28:35.380
But every radio station pays a
set fee for their ASCAP BMI
license

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So that will be if if a podcast
aired for instance podcast on
serious as a perfect example
serious pays hundreds of
millions of dollars

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No, I'm sorry, maybe less it's
probably like 70 million dollars
a year to ask at BMI and and all
of the songs that are played are
recorded reported

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And and some they go into the
magic cloud over to ask at BMI
and then they figure out who
gets what

28:57.620 --> 29:02.740
But for the podcast anything
that's listed on the PMN can be
used however you want now
there's another part to that

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Which is the record companies
who own the master the physical
record itself

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The

29:11.700 --> 29:18.980
If you want to create a and this
is the unclear part in all
legislation right now is okay if
it's on a podcast is it actually

29:19.620 --> 29:22.660
Similar to a broadcast so you
can give away that performance
right

29:23.780 --> 29:28.420
Yes, everyone agrees, but the
record companies who own all of
the masters

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So the actual physical product
that is then being copied from

29:33.140 --> 29:36.100
A file into your file onto
someone's player

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That's a a real distribution
right and

29:41.300 --> 29:45.620
You can only hand that over if
you own it so most artists

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Establish artists don't own
those masters as an example

29:51.060 --> 29:53.700
Alice Cooper probably does not
own the rights to

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What does he have up there? I'm
18 so he probably doesn't have
the rights to that he doesn't
own the actual master, but

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He does own the words and the
music so he put a

30:07.140 --> 30:13.860
Live recording so he owned a
apparently he or who or some
record label that he's involved
with owns that master

30:14.420 --> 30:21.140
So there we have it. It's okay
because the owners of the master
said go ahead and put it up on
the podcast music network and
then the owners of

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The copyright the the
performance right the words in
the music also said it's okay go
ahead and put it up

30:27.700 --> 30:29.700
Asked BMI

30:30.260 --> 30:32.980
Although they do have an
exclusive license for broadcast

30:34.500 --> 30:40.820
Even then it would be possible
in theory in theory. I'm saying
for an owner of

30:40.980 --> 30:44.420
Music and words to tell a radio
or television station

30:44.420 --> 30:49.220
You know what you can play this
and you don't have to pay any
Askcott royalties over it that
would be possible

30:49.700 --> 30:54.180
It would be complicated because
of how the whole system works
and how it's tracked

30:54.180 --> 30:58.340
But that would be in theory
possible this is where the
subtle difference lies

30:58.980 --> 31:04.260
And as we listen to the rest of
this audio comment which I do
want to go through because I I
really appreciate the
conversation

31:04.260 --> 31:06.260
It's going on in Germany right
now

31:07.300 --> 31:10.820
The the gamma as with the Buma
in the Netherlands

31:11.620 --> 31:17.300
Have a almost God-given legal
right to be the sole
representative of

31:18.020 --> 31:23.620
The performance rights for for
the music that is signed up and
is represented by them

31:24.500 --> 31:28.260
And when the artist actually
signs up with those
organizations

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They literally sign over any
other right to that organization
so they do not have the right as
they do in the U.S

31:35.540 --> 31:37.540
With Askcott BMI

31:37.540 --> 31:41.700
To hand out a different license
to a different group of users of
their music

31:42.420 --> 31:48.100
They have essentially said okay
Gemma you represent my music for
all types of broadcast

31:48.740 --> 31:53.140
Whether that be podcast or radio
or television or any any other
type of performance

31:54.020 --> 31:56.180
You own and represent those
rights

31:56.180 --> 31:59.460
They don't really own it, but
they represent those rights
exclusively

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And that is the main difference

32:02.660 --> 32:04.660
So I think

32:04.660 --> 32:07.300
You're right what's continuing
with the comments he where it
takes us

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So German podcast us would
highly appreciate your help in
terms of legal security

32:13.620 --> 32:16.500
Playing PMTunes from let's say
depurple

32:17.220 --> 32:23.540
Why is it allowed to play for
example woman from Tokyo even
though they are listed and
licensed to all

32:23.700 --> 32:25.700
major copyright authorities

32:25.700 --> 32:32.260
A DSE for for one and for for
two you mentioned that when an
artist plays these songs live
here or the label

32:32.820 --> 32:37.300
Owns all the rights and can do
what he wants even putting them
on the PMN

32:38.260 --> 32:40.980
might that be the glue to serve
our uncertainty

32:41.780 --> 32:45.300
As I mentioned before help is
highly appreciated here in
Germany

32:45.780 --> 32:46.740
Thanks

32:46.740 --> 32:48.740
Just servers and bye bye

32:48.740 --> 32:52.260
I hope you don't mind our
terrific German accent at him

32:52.420 --> 32:57.540
Gugain is living in the south of
a very in part of Germany about
500 miles south of my place

32:57.940 --> 33:05.380
We both are and have been very
interested in music and we are
both record collectors who even
know you from your former times
at MTV

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So we have got a main advantage
compared to let's say

33:09.540 --> 33:13.460
younger podcasts as who might
not know rainbow depurple or
Gary Moore

33:13.860 --> 33:19.300
But these podcasts who don't
know any of these artists and
who are playing one of their
songs in their podcasts

33:19.620 --> 33:26.500
Might get into serious trouble
for doing so without having had
the intention to violate some
maybe existing local laws

33:27.300 --> 33:30.500
Like you can said there are
several discussions going on at
the moment

33:30.580 --> 33:35.140
But especially German right
authorities are sometimes very
slowly and unflexible

33:35.620 --> 33:39.460
So it might take some time until
things might become clearer in
the meantime

33:39.460 --> 33:45.380
I might suggest the following is
it possible to mark these bands
an artist for example with a
short note

33:45.700 --> 33:48.740
That their tracks might not be
pot safe in some other countries

33:49.300 --> 33:54.340
Another possibility would be to
list them in a separate
additional directory not to
exclude them

33:54.340 --> 34:01.540
But to give the people the
chance to distinguish between
traditional pot safe artists and
those who might not be pot safe
in the traditional meaning

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Don't get as wrong. We really
like the fact that bands like
depurple or rainbow or people
like Gary Moore James Brown or
Joshua Kadesen

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Published some of their songs
within the pot safe music
network as well and we hope that
there'll be others to come

34:15.460 --> 34:23.860
But for now, it's sometimes very
difficult for people and
especially podcasts from outside
the USA to figure out what can
be played and what not

34:24.260 --> 34:28.900
Maybe you can help us and feel
free to play this MP3 file in
your show if you want to

34:29.700 --> 34:32.900
Thanks very much and greetings
to you and all your listeners

34:32.900 --> 34:37.700
This was Norman Austos from
Gootus low in Germany. Goodbye.
All right. Thank you

34:38.820 --> 34:44.580
Whoa sounds like a big
undertaking. I think first we
got to find out if this is
really true that it's all other
countries accept the

34:44.660 --> 34:46.660
US that would make it very easy

34:47.060 --> 34:54.420
So everyone in every individual
country would have to see if
indeed the performing arts
performing

34:54.980 --> 34:57.380
Rights organization that
represents

34:58.660 --> 35:03.860
These artists that they do
indeed have the exclusive rights
and that no other rights can be
granted

35:06.020 --> 35:07.780
In Europe it might actually be
pretty simple

35:08.340 --> 35:13.300
It's something that could be
changed at the European Union
level although that could take a
long long time

35:13.860 --> 35:20.180
Really, it's the artists. I
would have to say. I mean, it
sucks for for podcasts or some
other countries

35:20.180 --> 35:22.180
So I think we definitely need to
put some kind of

35:23.540 --> 35:26.260
Some kind of message up there so
that they understand

35:27.460 --> 35:32.900
What the risks are but flagging
everything. I mean, there's no
way. I mean, we'd have to put

35:33.700 --> 35:36.100
a dedicated person on that 24
hours a day

35:37.220 --> 35:42.420
I just don't see how how we
could actually make that work
how make that a viable situation

35:42.580 --> 35:47.380
There's too much research and so
it would have to be done when
artists are submitting anyway

35:47.380 --> 35:53.460
So it's a really valid topic of
conversation. I want to open
this up and let's see if we can
come up with some solutions

35:54.740 --> 35:58.020
But I do think you're right and
I do think it is because of an
antiquated

35:58.420 --> 35:59.700
Performing rights

35:59.700 --> 36:01.700
System outside of the United
States

36:02.260 --> 36:04.260
I'll let's stay in Germany for a
second

36:06.660 --> 36:08.660
Hello, Deutschland

36:08.660 --> 36:11.380
Hi, Adam this is Thomas long
time listener from Germany

36:12.100 --> 36:16.420
I'm 41 years old and I work as
an anesthesiologist in a common
hospital

36:17.060 --> 36:24.020
I'm also a mech user and I
wanted if you know having
switched to windows know that if
you ever use your

36:24.020 --> 36:29.700
I'm making a home for the
production of Charlie and if so
for which step in production
process

36:30.500 --> 36:35.620
Come on give us a little geek
talk every now and then okay bye
home and folder

36:36.580 --> 36:39.220
You want some geek talk man. You
want more geek talk

36:42.100 --> 36:44.420
All right, let me play this
first. Don't give you some geek
talk

36:44.820 --> 36:49.300
Hey Adam it's ID which are
initials, but only a few people
know what this can't for

36:49.620 --> 36:51.620
But feel free to guess and I'll
tell you if you're right

36:52.340 --> 36:57.700
I've been listening to the
Charlie since you started way
away back when and I just wanted
to tell you that I adore you

36:57.700 --> 36:59.700
Patration of course your
gorgeous kid

36:59.700 --> 37:04.180
I love the family dynamic.
Thanks for inviting all of this
podcast or specialist guys into
your world

37:04.740 --> 37:09.380
Um, recently I've been listening
to two weeks with the Charlie
that a time meaning I'm sitting
at work

37:09.380 --> 37:11.380
Catching up and generally

37:11.380 --> 37:13.780
I'll have a comment. I want to
add but

37:14.340 --> 37:19.460
The relevance you've got you
passed. It seems that topics to
ground longer on podcasts and
they do another media

37:20.580 --> 37:24.100
However for me to come and I'm
something that happens in weeks
to go seems a little silly

37:24.100 --> 37:26.500
So generally I don't call or
send something to you

37:27.380 --> 37:30.980
However, I could want to ask you
how you're mad. Hold on before
you ask me that

37:31.620 --> 37:35.060
Yeah, that's a really valid
point sometimes it gets kind of
complicated

37:37.140 --> 37:43.780
Where I'll get comments really
good comments on a topic that
that you know occurred maybe
weeks ago

37:44.660 --> 37:47.940
And that you're right. That's
why sometimes this stuff does
get drawn out a little bit
longer

37:47.940 --> 37:51.140
I haven't quite found a solution
for yet, but you know that is
kind of the whole

37:52.020 --> 37:54.020
You know the there's beauty to
the

37:54.820 --> 37:58.260
Time shifting and there's some
downside from the production and
to the things

37:58.660 --> 38:03.700
However, and good want to ask
you how your math was and if you
were back on your math, they're
still working on your PC

38:03.700 --> 38:07.860
I either missed that update so
very very long ago or you didn't
tell us

38:08.180 --> 38:10.900
I'm really happy to hear the
object that worked well for you

38:11.620 --> 38:14.740
We can both think my red stick
computer geek flashboy friend
Wayne

38:15.220 --> 38:18.180
So the amazing ability and
finding that particular piece of
software

38:18.660 --> 38:22.740
I also wanted to tell you how
amazingly impressive your
ability to go on with such a
busy schedule

38:23.300 --> 38:25.300
after your mother's passing

38:26.260 --> 38:32.020
She seems like such an amazing
woman and I just get the
positive feeling that she's
proud of you wherever her energy
resides

38:32.740 --> 38:36.740
Thank you so much for all of
your efforts and thanks so very
much for the hours of
entertainment

38:36.740 --> 38:42.180
Information and content that
make my work day bearable and so
very much less dramatic than it
normally would be

38:42.180 --> 38:44.820
I adore you so I'm a further by

38:45.700 --> 38:47.700
That's very cute. Thank you very
flattering

38:48.980 --> 38:50.980
Okay, so for our German friend
and

38:51.540 --> 38:54.580
This young lady, you know what
it's it's funny

38:55.540 --> 39:03.700
I don't use a Mac at all. I have
not used a Mac in weeks. It's
maybe even months ever since I
got the Sony Vio

39:04.820 --> 39:08.820
And I haven't given you an
update now of course. Yes
Patricia has an eye Mac
downstairs

39:08.820 --> 39:13.540
I've got an eye Mac in the curry
condo. We use that pretty much
exclusively for video
conferencing

39:14.020 --> 39:16.020
Patricia uses the eye Mac

39:16.020 --> 39:23.220
for looking at real estate
websites predominantly and she
loves it so and and I do enjoy
you know

39:23.220 --> 39:30.340
Just grab in the Mac and and
getting something done
sometimes. However, I do
immediately notice that the
whole user interface

39:30.340 --> 39:36.340
Everything's a little less
snappy than on windows. It does
have that nice kind of rounded
edge polished feel to it

39:37.220 --> 39:44.980
But I have not missed my Mac at
all. I've thoroughly enjoyed the
amount of applications that are
available for the windows
platform

39:46.340 --> 39:48.340
As an example

39:48.340 --> 39:50.340
I do my video

39:50.340 --> 39:51.140
show

39:51.140 --> 39:52.900
per version for profit. I do
that on

39:54.260 --> 40:00.340
A PC program called visual
communicator. I've not found
anything well there are
programs. Please don't send me a
million links

40:00.900 --> 40:07.140
Yes, there of course there are
programs for this on the Mac as
well, but this one really
floated my boat and the
performance is great

40:07.460 --> 40:10.100
The speed of this machine. It's
a dual dual core

40:10.660 --> 40:12.660
Intel processor is

40:12.740 --> 40:19.140
Very fast and coding goes very
fast. I'm just generally
extremely pleased battery life
fantastic

40:19.140 --> 40:21.140
It's not exploding which is nice

40:22.100 --> 40:24.980
Even though it's a Sony and a
Sony battery is not overheating

40:26.020 --> 40:30.580
But I can literally you know
undock and and use my my via for
hours

40:31.460 --> 40:37.460
Doing anything not having to
take any kind of you know, I
just select the via optimize
power setting whatever the hell
it is

40:37.460 --> 40:38.980
You know once you get used to
the machine

40:39.620 --> 40:45.060
Then then you kind of know you
know what works best and it's
it's fantastic

40:46.020 --> 40:50.340
And it's light too. It's very
very light. It's lighter than
any than any Mac book

40:51.460 --> 40:55.140
It feels a little less durable
of course. It's more plastic

40:56.180 --> 41:00.900
I love the built-in webcam. I
know you can get that on a Mac
too, but I'm just giving you all
the

41:01.540 --> 41:07.300
I'm giving you everything. It
just feels good. I'm loving it.
I am I'm not missing the Mac at
all. Do I like Mac?

41:07.380 --> 41:09.380
Absolutely

41:09.380 --> 41:16.900
Although I must say in all the
audio production I've done on
Macs. I think that I've had a
more enjoyable experience using

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Adobe audition on the PC for a
number of reasons

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Not the least of which is the
speed and the stability of the
programs and

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Just seems to be less hassle
once you've figured out how the
audio works

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You know on the Mac you have to
figure out how audio is routed
and works and what control
panels you need

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to find that on the PC. It is a
little bit different

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But once you're in it, I don't
know. I'm sorry to say I just
really don't see a difference in
productivity

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I've been able to get all the
keystrokes down to what I want
to get it to. I'm feeling very
good about the PC

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No real issues now

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I have done some aesthetics that
make me feel better. I'm not
using I'm using the actual Mac
background

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that you would find by default
installed on any Mac computer
product

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I have a dock down at the bottom
so it kind of emulates

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It emulates a Mac. I have Mac
icons

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That's another thing. I just I
didn't want to have to get used
to windows icon. So I use Mac
icons. No problem. It's just a

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aesthetics, right? And I kind of
enjoy the task bar. That is kind
of fun to have stuff sitting
there and all kinds of

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programs out of the way that
only pop up when you need them.
So in general, very very happy
with the experience

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All right. It's gonna be a
little bit long today's show,
but I did just want to play a
couple more things for you.

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Hello Adam. This is Karen from
Virginia. I'm responding to your
request for listener profiles

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My day job is as a social worker
and part-time tour guide on the
weekends at a local history site

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I've been listening to the
Charlie since about October

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The podcast I'm going to hawk
shamelessly is music Virginia
dot potio dot com focusing on

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Artists from Virginia and I just
turned 48. I'm divorced and
proud of it. He doesn't even
know what he missed and

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Let's see right now. Those kind
of relationships just are not

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For me so and believe me you
would not want to see a naked
picture of me and about the big
debate

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Suscending from the from the
bottom or over the top doesn't
matter as long as it's there
when you need it and I'm a
folder

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And can I say tailwinds even if
I'm not a pilot? Bye. No, not
really

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But you made me so happy with
all the other stuff you said.
It's okay

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Thank you. I've been saving all
of these listener profiles that
you've been calling in. I have I
must have about

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150 now and

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I'm going to if you don't mind
share those with our

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Business development and sales
department

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Because I'm I think I'm getting
a very good idea of what the
audience make up is and

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I'd like to be able to bring you
more relevant advertising
relevant to you

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um

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And I and just on a personal
note

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I'm really really enjoying
learning about you guys

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I'm

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I'm not surprised about the
average age which seems to be
around 33 32 33 I should do the
math

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Not surprised well now. I am
surprised about the type of jobs
you guys have and what you do
for a living and where you
listen

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I this just it's totally blowing
me away and I really appreciate
you sending that in it's

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I think if if I know you better
I'll be able to serve you better

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Are you being so kind of so if
you bet about any chance?

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Hey Adam

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This is listener dug and Utah
checking in with a little item
on a Dutch invasion of Germany

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Yeah, I know that's a reversal
in historical trend

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Nevertheless in the Sunday New
York Times

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We can review section there's a
little blurb at

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About how the

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Germans are upset even pissed
off with the Dutch because

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While the Dutch are doing
nothing to close down the coffee
shops in Holland

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relying on the tax revenue from
the

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200 million dollar annual trade

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They have nevertheless crack
down on the growers

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And so the growers have moved to
the forests of Germany and the
Germans are having trouble
controlling the Dutch growers in
Germany

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This seems particularly odd. I
don't know if there's violence
involved which would not seem
particularly

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Dutch

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But apparently all the seed
contest and so on that's all in
a longer being produced in
Holland, but in the forests of
Germany

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I thought that'd be an
interesting

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Curry for 20 like moment for

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Okay, this is dug out. Oh, I dug
nice. Well, you know

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It's this is almost like the
national hobby in the
Netherlands not a day goes by

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Well, you don't read in at least
one of the newspapers about some
apartment or some home or you
know just the some in
conspicuous dwelling

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Usually in in a in a in a
structure of more of the same
types of dwellings hence
apartments

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That it doesn't turn out to be
just rented by someone who is
not living there, but has
several hundred plants growing

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And they usually steal
electricity. This is the the
only guys who are really going
after this big time as far as I
can tell in in the Netherlands
is the electric companies

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Because it takes so much energy
and they're losing their quote
losing so much revenue on

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On these growers these illegal
growers that they're the ones
that are basically finding out
who's doing what they look in

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They look at anomalies. I guess
across there they're power grid
and then they zoom in and it's
more for those guys than
anything

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That that they're being hunted
down, but it seems like everyone
is doing it everyone is growing
it

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And I think you're I know we got
the $200 million annual trade
number from I think it's much
much higher than that much
higher

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Oh, yeah, gobs higher no doubt
about it and it's being
transported throughout all of
Europe

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I mean the Netherlands is is I
think the number one producing
country now

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Really really huge

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So no wonder that they're moving
down south through Belgium that
they're moving over towards the
east towards Germany

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It's just I think it's that
they're probably not even going
for any other reason then the
power company to

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On quite as hip over there to
what's happening

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Is their violence involved? No,
I have yet to read one report of
actual violence involved

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These growers

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Particularly if they're smoking
their own dope. No, I'm saying

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The New York City to wind up
today's Charlie Jody Aaron and
orange soda

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[ Music ]

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Yeah that'd be nice nice orange
soda

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Jody Aaron from the pot set
music network links to that in
the show notes the daily source
code dot com where you can
comment on today's episode

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You can find all kinds of links
all kinds of stuff. It's groovy.
Come on over dig me

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Everybody this was fun. I'll
talk to you tomorrow. Of course
a Friday. We're flying to
Amsterdam

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I'm gonna try that trip again

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So I'm not sure if we should be
able to do a show maybe I'll do
one Thursday night for you

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DailySourceco.com
adamantpodshow.com take care
everybody bye bye

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