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16 million dollars worth of
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content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
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[ Music ]

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If you're off on business,
you're away from home, then I'll
pitch you that song

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Hit the perfect spot, didn't it?

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Adam, what all bands?

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Coming home soon, taking off
episode

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477 of the Charlie, Delhi source
code

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Coming to you from San
Francisco, California, it's
going to be another beautiful
day

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And no cow, and I feel like shit

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Oh man, I haven't been this sick
in a long, long time

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And so when I play a song like
that, of course you can find it
in the pod

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Same music now, works like, ah,
you know what I need right now?

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I need some Patricia chicken
soup

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Ah, long time listeners will
know that Patricia's chicken
soup with ginger

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is the only thing that really
helps against this

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It's just been shit, shit, shit

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I hate it, I hate it when my
body lets me down

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Everybody how you doing, it's
damn early here in San Francisco

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But another full day ahead,
please

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Anyone who's hearing this at the
office

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Remind me, I've got to go to
black market magic

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I've got to go pay for the
equipment that I so far been
borrowing

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It's like, like every single day
this week

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It's been like, oh, what time is
it?

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Oh shit, it's a quarter to eight

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I don't think it's open anymore,
I gotta go during lunch

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Ah, lots of things to talk about
today

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Some rather big news stories

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And some small news stories

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But there is an important story
that we're following right now

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Which of course is the
continuing theory of folders
versus scrunchers

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I've discovered that I as a
lifelong, lifelong folder

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Actually scrunch toilet paper

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When I blow my nose and it seems
that we're on to something here

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Yeah, I'm Jeff Smith, I think
you're on to something

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I am a scruncher, but when I
blow my nose, I fold it up

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And a nice little square

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Hmm, oh, interesting

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I'm telling you there's
something there, there's a
correlation

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Wait, that's Jeff Smith, the
Jeff Smith from...

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So, all I had to do of course
was ask you guys

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If we had any proof that North
Korea had really lit up a nuke

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If there was any seismic
activity

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And immediately messages started
coming in

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I got to actually post it
yesterday on korea.com

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I posted a link to a map that
shows a 4.2

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On the Richter scale of seismic
activity in North Korea

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Interestingly enough, the report
is at surface level

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So it wasn't apparently a deep
explosion

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But more people have been after
this data

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Hey, and this is young, I'm just
posting to your daily source
code

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From, well, today and I can't
just leave the game

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I'm on a plot right now, just
end all of it

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Well, anyway, the nuke in North
Korea was 3.5, 4.5

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On the Richter scale, I've heard
both

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They said it wasn't very big, or
as big as the North Koreans
wanted

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It's the big, or that's what
they say

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But the missiles is true,
they're over-exaggerating that

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But I've been reading that North
Korea has quite a few submarines

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They have, say, you could bring
them into the cargo

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Or they could fly them in their
planes

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They're just, thanks to worry
about why South Korea could fly
in with their planes

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So just, they're having it as a
bad thing

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Well, anybody having a nuke is
kind of a bad thing

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But just because they don't have
a missile or a proper missile
that can make California

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They could just take it right
into the bay

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All right, pleasant thoughts,
bye

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And voter as I said yesterday

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Bye, thanks

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All right, this still doesn't,
you know, it's not that I don't
want to believe it

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Couldn't a large variety of
explosive devices

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Created 4.2 on the Richter scale

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You know, how do we know that it
wasn't actually a nuke that was
lit up

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And is this the only sides of
nuke they can make?

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You know, there's all kinds of
things to consider there

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Now, I'll say right up front

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That my uncle Don who, you know,
I'm missing him again on this
trip

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But he has told me quite
clearly, he says they're nuts in
North Korea

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Kim, Kim Yang Il

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Is absolutely nuts

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So if they had a nuke, yeah, he
would probably use it

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But it could, you know, look at
this guy

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He's totally, he's all image,
you know, look at his hair

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Look at his posture, look at his
clothes

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You know, his clothes really say

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Hey, I'm the most important dude
in the room

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The glasses, the logger-filled
glasses

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He could be a very brilliant
strategist in that regard

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And I'm just wondering, I don't
know anything about nuke

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I don't know anything about
nuclear fission

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Or fusion

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Simon Test does who's in the UK
Simon

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You're the expert on nuclear
stuff

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Once you dial in

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And give me the opinion on this
stuff

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Okay

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Because so far, yeah, there was
a seismic activity

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4.2 in the Richter scale

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That doesn't seem like a huge
deal

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I mean, it depends on where it
takes place

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But just from my recent
recollection of actual
earthquakes

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4.2 doesn't seem like it's like
it's some huge deal

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If you've got any information on
that, you know what to call

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1.2.1.6.6.7.

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This week on the Big Break Music
Podcast

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You can hear the music and our
interview

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With Podsafe Music Artist Lisa
Dames

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As we explore her album, no one
like me

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Because it could have been me

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The phone that's green or my
face

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On the cover of the magazine

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Here, Lisa Dames as she reveals

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The intimate and emotional story
behind her songs

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And then we went up into the
studio

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And he played it for me on the
piano

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And I just started crying

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It's so hard to sing the song
because I have to hold back so
much

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Because if I don't hold back, I
will start crying

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As I'm singing that song

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And we get a behind-the-scenes
look

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Into the making of her chart
climbing single

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Just another day

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And we get to hear about the fun
times as well

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In time we get it, we just get a
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And a little bit right here

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Here

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So check it out by going to

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Or search for the Big Break in
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Big Break Podcast and Lisa Dames

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Oh, check this one out everybody

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I mean we might as well stay in
the country vibes

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Since we're doing

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We're going to a sad life repair
man

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Coming after you

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Sad life repair man

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What's he gonna do?

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Sad life repair man

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Sad life repair man

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Yeah

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Everybody

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That's not like I have anything
from PW to play for you

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But yeah, you go from one
country promo

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Just about this North Korean
thing again

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The only reason I'm bringing it
up

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Is because it was not that long
ago

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That we were led to believe that
Iraq had weapons of mass
destruction

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Capability

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Capabilities

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And I quite distinctly remember

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Areal photographs showing

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Possible launch sites, build
sites, vials

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Of anthrax

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Remember that

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G

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So, you know, I'm just saying

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It's like okay, we've got all
these

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You know, all these pictures of

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Of ill walking around

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Looking from mighty important

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Of course, it's all file footage

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Of rockets launching an air

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Of course, it's all file footage

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And we've got a statement from
them

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Which is new

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We've got nukes

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North Korean

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But I presume it's exactly what
he said

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And we have some seismic
activity

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That to me does not prove it's a
nuk

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But, you know, okay

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I don't know what it takes to
make nukes

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Let's see what they're saying
over in

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In blighty about the deal

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Hello Adam Lee from UK yet

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While you're off in America then

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I thought I'd just tell you
something

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I was really guardians of day

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The 10th to the 10th to the 6th

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And it's the the moment North
Korea became a nuclear player

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And on the front page

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There was a huge fire in the
grass

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Extract

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It's certainly nice

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A seismograph in the geoscience
Australia

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Identifies North Korean nuclear
threats

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About the US medical survey

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It's a magnitude 4.2 seismic
event

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So, if you really get on the
Guardian website

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I'm sure we'll be off a look at
the picture

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And I'm quite a bit sure

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It's quite a

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Physmal spike at the time

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When North Korea said it's
designated

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And it's matched it as well

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But there you go

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If not I am

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If we'd be locked on to the US

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A logical server website that
has it on there

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Maybe the geoscience Australia

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South America, I think British
geographical

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And even also pick it up as well

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But it won't be as strong

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Because anyway

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That's about all these moments

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I don't I'm now at university
here in Cardiff

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So no longer in Birmingham

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I'm now in Wales

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Oh

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Cardiff

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Where my girlfriend Charlotte
Church lives

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Have you ever seen the Charlotte
Church show?

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If you live in the UK?

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It's interesting because she's
competing partially

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With Jonathan Ross, the big
Friday night talk show

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Which has been gone going for
years

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Which is also a fantastic show

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I love the Jonathan Ross show

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But this Charlotte Church show

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It starts half hour before

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Before Jonathan Ross and since
that's on channel 4 I believe

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She's nuts

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Charlotte Church was the child
prodigy

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Who sang classic opera

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When she was I think 12 or 13

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Really took the world by storm

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And she's turned into quite a
media celebrity in the UK

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And she's funny

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She's funny and deering the
shows

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Kind of a mess

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But there's something about it

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That I really like

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When the show came out people
really slagged her off

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And she does it from Cardiff

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She says it's from Cardiff

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Which is where she's from

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I think it's a studio in London

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But that's okay

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A little bit of media hype is
all right

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I mean yeah

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If North Korea has the
capability to do a media hype

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I wouldn't start a church

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I

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Yes

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And I love it when you guys
correct me on my grammar

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Adam I got to correct you

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You were talking

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Playing a call from

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Either Mary and Carla

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Karen and whatever our name was

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And you corrected her
grammatical

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You think she should have said

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Carla and I

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But did you a wrong?

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She had a right

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It was Carla and me

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The sense of something like

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I'm at the bunch of people at
the podcast

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Text bell including me and Carla

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Why she has this correct you a
wrong dude

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It's not the first time you made
that mistake

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She only correct you

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Well dude are you so sure dude

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All right

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I know that someone out there
who's going to go back and
listen to yesterday's episode

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And see if I was right or wrong

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I've always been taught it's

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And I

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Not and me and I think that's I
think she said Carla and me not
me and Carla

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And I believe it's it would be
Carla and I

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Of course

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It being Carla and I or Karen
and I

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It's all just a pipe dream

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But a girl can dream right you
know what I'm saying

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Yeah

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Long time

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She heard about the crash

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And then hadn't yesterday

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Pitch for New York and I think
it's quite a lot

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I don't remember some trouble

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I guess and wound up

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Session to a apartment complex
on the upper west side

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So we'll be interested to hear
your thoughts on that

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I'm definitely pretty far behind

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So we're also looking forward to
hearing

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You really thoughts on

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Before we get to that

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Let's let's pause here for a
second with Corey Lidal

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Because the same thing really

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You know

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Ever since I heard this
yesterday afternoon

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We were at the office

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And it was a little unclear it
was going on of course

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You know for a brief moment
there is shock waves

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I go you know spread throughout
the country and throughout the
world

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The first thing everyone thought
is oh my gosh, you know another
plane into a building

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And every single news reporter
would say

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Five years on one month to the
date

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Because of course it was on the
11 so they had some kind of hook
there

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Some kind of tie in

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But it was a very unfortunate
accident

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And when I heard this when I
heard a small craft crashing
into a

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Into a building you know I
immediately think wow

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You know this is there's
something very wrong

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In fact I was like I'd be leave
suicide before

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I believe that a freak accent
like that happened

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And I started to amass the
information

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Very very hard to get any
valuable information

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On this particular story from
mainstream news

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And again, it just goes to show
that when you actually know
something about a topic

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How piss poor just piss poor

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The news media is at reporting

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Now they get some things right
like fire

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We could see that you know

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The level of floor of the
apartment that the fire is on
you know that stuff

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I saw Bloomberg report that the
CR20 aircraft was a 15 seat
passenger plane

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You know it's like no it's not
it's a four-seater

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Okay, so

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And there was actually there was
one I think it was on

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I don't know if it was on Larry
King. It was I think it was
definitely CNN at one point

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A former executive for the
National Aviation Transportation
Board

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The NATB

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Came on and this was clearly a
guy who had

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Researched a couple of facts and
I must have been an airman
because he did have some great
information

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So let me start by saying

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Here's the information that I've
collected that I believe to be

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You know some of the facts.
First of all Corey Lidal

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Was a pilot who had 400 hours of
experience

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Any experience pilot will tell
you that there is definitely a
spike in accidents

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Pilate error based accidents
when pilots have between three
and 400 hours

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That is just about the time
where you're feeling very
comfortable

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In fact they had a couple of

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Guys really horrible and they've
flown along with him in his
previous aircraft

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I guess a system 172 probably
for some TV special or something
that he did or some profile of
him

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And you hear him saying you know
how comfortable he feels in the
air

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And that's exactly

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The issue with these three to
400 hour pilots and and this has
been told to me many many times
when I reached

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About 253 hundred hours the wind
commander my instructor said
dude

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This is where you really got a
fucking watch your shit because
now you think you got it all
down

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You know what you're doing and
something really fucking crazy
can happen

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So let's just put that right up
front and

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And I think that is actually
provable by statistics that once
you get to the three four
hundred hours

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Is a private pilot that's where
really normally shit can happen

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And it's purely a confidence
issue so it's all about pilot
error

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Okay, what else did we learn?

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We learned from from this guy
from the NATB or formerly of the
NATB that there was a cloud
ceiling of 1500 feet

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But in the the Eastern corridor
of New York in order to fly
there under the configuration
that light

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I was flying the type of
aircraft

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The type of license he has
flying under visual flying rules
visual flight rules

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He was apparently at 1100 feet
now 1100 feet is okay. It's not
really high. You know it really
isn't it's about 300 meters

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So if you have an engine failure
you're going to be on the ground
relatively quickly

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It's it's just a fact of you
know a physics

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So he was coming from north to
south going down the east side
of Manhattan

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Manhattan

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There was again according to the
NATB former executive there was
a rather strong wind from the
east

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So if you're flying along the
Eastern corridor of Manhattan
and the wind is coming from the
east and it's relatively strong

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If you have if you're under full
powered flight and your engine
is working

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You actually will not be your
your aircraft will not be
pointed straight on a north to
south track

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You'll actually be pointing into
the wind is very much like
sailing

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Where's you don't notice this
when you're flying in a
commercial airliner

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You really don't notice it in
any aircraft unless you're up
front but you're actually flying
sideways

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And that's because the wind is
pushing you

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You know in the opposite
direction of which the wind is
coming

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So if you have an engine failure

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You know you're going to have to
think about

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You know what am I going to do
because the wind is obviously
going to become a more powerful
force as you have less power

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And you still have inertia and
momentum

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So you know if you turn into the
wind you're going to slow down
significantly

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If you turn away from the wind

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With the wind to the back you
know you obviously powered or
not powered you're going to be
you know flying faster

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And you're going to be going
towards Manhattan

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So from some of the some of the
eye witness accounts

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Some people said they thought it
was a helicopter which is kind
of weird now

22:56.320 --> 23:01.320
You know a serious SR20 can look
like a helicopter so I can
understand where they're coming
from

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But others were saying that it
looked like was kind of out of
control like it was dipping left
and right

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And then there's a unconfirmed
report of a made a about a
either fuel starvation or

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Something wrong with the fuel
system

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So when I put this all together

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Oh and by the way visibility was
eight or nine miles that was
what was reported is eight or
nine miles

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So mind you only a 400 feet
under the cloud cover it could
easily have been a little bit
hazy

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You know these reports I've had
lots of eight to nine mile clear
visibility reports and you get
up there

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And you're like yeah it's more
kind of like four you know that
just happens

23:40.320 --> 23:45.320
So that's all we know from the
ground reporting or the terminal
area forecast

23:45.320 --> 23:50.320
So here's oh and then the final
piece of information which is
really really critical

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Crap I don't know if I'm going
to get this whole story and for
you serious stars one or two
listeners I really hope I do

23:55.320 --> 23:57.320
Shit it's a good story

23:57.320 --> 24:02.320
Apparently Corey also had his
instructor on board

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Now you'd think that would make
it a very very safe situation

24:06.320 --> 24:12.320
Well that really depends on the
instructor and I have to say you
know having been flying with the
a safety pilot or instructor for
a

24:12.320 --> 24:18.320
Well for most of my flying
actually I love having someone
on the right hand seat even
though I'm doing all the work

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You know when situations occur
and instructor will typically
let you deal with the situation
and maybe jump in and do
something

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If necessary now when it comes
to an emergency

24:31.320 --> 24:35.320
Particular something where the
engine may fail a lot of the
instrumentation

24:36.320 --> 24:43.320
For solving that issue is on the
left-hand side of the aircraft.
It's it's in the pilot seat.
That's where the ignition key is

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That's where the fuel pipe. Oh
in the series SR20 the fuel pump
may actually be located in the
middle on the middle console

24:50.320 --> 24:55.320
Ask shit. Hey serious guys gals
daily source code.com

24:55.320 --> 25:01.320
If you want to hear the rest of
my theory about Corey light. Oh,
sorry about that windows closed
and p-dub shut me out can't help
anything

25:02.320 --> 25:04.320
All right, we're still here,
right

25:05.320 --> 25:10.320
So a lot of that of the controls
and instrumentation for engine
management are on the pilot
seats

25:10.320 --> 25:15.320
So I'm just going to go into
just assume that the pilot

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Corey light on this case was
sitting left seat and had most
of the controls so

25:20.320 --> 25:25.320
Here's what I believe may have
happened and and the whole
theory

25:26.320 --> 25:29.320
gets more believable with the
visibility

25:30.320 --> 25:36.320
With knowing more about
visibility and the actual
strength of the wind coming from
the east, but here's what I
think could have happened

25:36.320 --> 25:38.320
They're flying along

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And they're going north to south
and there's this eastern Lee
strong, eastern Lee wind and the
engine quits and I guess they
determine that it is because

25:51.320 --> 25:54.320
Either their tank or tanks are
empty

25:54.320 --> 26:00.320
But what they essentially try I
believe is by rocking the wings
back and forth banking

26:00.320 --> 26:04.320
You know some significant
banking which could give an out
of control look

26:04.320 --> 26:11.320
They may have actually been
trying to have fuel spill over
from either of the tanks to get
into the ignition into the car

26:11.320 --> 26:13.320
Rator into the ignition

26:13.320 --> 26:20.320
I'm not completely 100% down on
how the serious fuel flow system
works

26:20.320 --> 26:22.320
I'm sure that the fuel pump is
necessary

26:22.320 --> 26:26.320
I don't think it's a
gravity-based system since it's
a low wing

26:27.320 --> 26:29.320
So they were probably trying to

26:30.320 --> 26:36.320
Get the engine restarted and get
some fuel flow and you know back
in by rocking the wings

26:36.320 --> 26:43.320
Now while this is taking place
while you're doing this rocking
the wings remember that the wind
if strong enough is really
pushing

26:44.320 --> 26:49.320
The aircraft towards Manhattan
now I've only seen some

26:49.320 --> 26:54.320
Some flight paths that you know
look like it might have been
this particular aircraft flight
path

26:54.320 --> 27:00.320
They may actually done a 360 and
no matter which way they turn
that 360

27:00.320 --> 27:07.320
If they're trying to rock the
wings and trying to restart this
stuff and you're to eleven
hundred feet

27:07.320 --> 27:09.320
And you're you're descending

27:09.320 --> 27:13.320
You're going to be on the ground
in just a couple minutes as no
two ways about it

27:13.320 --> 27:17.320
And I believe what happened here
is the instructor made a bad
decision

27:18.320 --> 27:23.320
The instructor probably said you
know, and if he were flying a
left seat and he was in total
control

27:23.320 --> 27:29.320
It may have had a different
outcome and this is again, it's
just a theory, you know, and no
one has to blame this is just
how shit goes

27:29.320 --> 27:33.320
I believe the instructor
probably said dude, let's try
and restart this thing

27:33.320 --> 27:35.320
Rock the wings

27:35.320 --> 27:37.320
Let's see if we can get some
fuel flowing

27:37.320 --> 27:39.320
They're probably doing this
while

27:39.320 --> 27:41.320
Turning

27:41.320 --> 27:47.320
Out of the wind because you know
when when you have an emergency
like that you don't want to turn
into the wind immediately

27:47.320 --> 27:52.320
You want to get the best glide
so you can stay in the air the
longest so you have the long you
know the most

27:54.320 --> 28:00.320
Opportunity to find a place to
land and guess what there is
only one answer in this case
there's only one place in fact

28:00.320 --> 28:03.320
I believe when this happened

28:04.320 --> 28:09.320
They should have immediately
said, okay, we're going into the
river there's no two ways about
it

28:09.320 --> 28:13.320
We're going into the river and
you know you can try your
restarts on your way down into
the river

28:13.320 --> 28:19.320
But what probably happened is
they're trying to get their best
glide they're drifting towards
Manhattan

28:19.320 --> 28:26.320
They're rocking the wings they
may have both had heads down
looking at the fuel pump looking
at gauges trying to start some
stuff

28:26.320 --> 28:32.320
You go into another turn you've
lost track of how far the wind
push you you look up and you
crash into the fucking building

28:33.320 --> 28:40.320
I think that is exactly what
happened and it's it's horrible
and it's and there's no reason
that it had to happen

28:40.320 --> 28:47.320
It's just one of these things
where all these elements come
together at the wrong time and
it's it's horrific

28:47.320 --> 28:56.320
And it's bad for aviation it's
it's bad for for people who were
involved in this and lost lives
and and property etc

28:56.320 --> 28:59.320
But it really just sucks

29:00.320 --> 29:07.320
Particularly because this type
of aircraft and this is I think
then I don't know how many of
these seerses have crashed

29:07.320 --> 29:12.320
But this is the only general
aviation aircraft that I know of
that has a ballistic parachute

29:12.320 --> 29:18.320
And I'm not a big fan of that
because you know essentially
there's a there's a red handle
in the roof

29:18.320 --> 29:22.320
And if you run into trouble you
pull that handle an actual you
know rocket

29:22.320 --> 29:31.320
Explode and blast off with a
parachute which can help the
aircraft float down to the
ground

29:31.320 --> 29:40.320
Don't for one single minute
think that that is in dangerous
or that you're you know you have
a 100% chance of survivability
because you do not

29:40.320 --> 29:47.320
You know you're probably going
to wreck the airframe you could
harm yourself particularly your
back, you know

29:47.320 --> 29:53.320
The seats are designed to to
withstand a certain amount of G
forces upon impact

29:53.320 --> 29:58.320
But you could you know still be
seriously messed up, but the
chances of survival are pretty
good

29:58.320 --> 30:06.320
I personally I don't think an
aircraft manufacturer that
supplies aircraft with a
parachute says a lot about you
know what they think of their
product

30:06.320 --> 30:11.320
And it's a and it's a very
popular aircraft the SR20 and
the SR22

30:12.320 --> 30:20.320
And these guys never deployed it
and again, I think that's
because there was an instructor
onboard and you know when you
deploy the shoot you're kissing
the plane goodbye

30:20.320 --> 30:24.320
You know, yeah, it may be
salvageable, but

30:24.320 --> 30:30.320
The shoot was not deployed these
shoots have been deployed I
think nine times so far with
varying results

30:30.320 --> 30:36.320
Some people walk away some
people have been pretty
seriously injured despite
deploying the parachute

30:36.320 --> 30:45.320
And I think it's just a whole
bunch of unfortunate events that
occurred all at the same time
and I truly believe that that's
what happened

30:45.320 --> 30:52.320
And I know there's a lot of
pilots and aviators who listen
to the daily source code, so
wouldn't mind hearing from you
guys what you think about it

30:52.320 --> 31:00.320
You know, I'm going to stop the
show now. I'm so bummed out
about that I really am and I'm
feeling like shit and I got to
work to do

31:00.320 --> 31:08.320
Hey, tomorrow will be football
Friday. I promise you that I'll
take lots of night quill tonight
and I'll have all kinds of

31:08.320 --> 31:18.320
Tylenol and and caffeine for
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In this case, it's say duet with
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That's all I know about her and
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Liberty Jones

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Have a little little tea Jones

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I wish that you or my we can go
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Liberty, you're so free

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37:13.240 --> 37:18.760
obviously thoughts and prayers
go out to all of those involved
in the Corey Lightle incident

37:20.360 --> 37:26.360
and crap man look what's
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we're all

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