WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:04.000 Find this podcast and others like it at the number one new media network, 00:04.000 --> 00:05.000 paucho.com. 00:05.000 --> 00:07.000 Better faster, stronger, stronger. 00:07.000 --> 00:09.000 And now with new minty fresh scent. 00:15.000 --> 00:17.000 Hey, this is Carmen Tyler. 00:17.000 --> 00:21.000 And you're listening to the 500th episode of the daily source code, 00:21.000 --> 00:25.000 and the real pod fodder Adam Curry. 00:26.000 --> 00:29.000 We're 500 podcasts under my ass. 00:29.000 --> 00:32.000 In the next generation, social media network in my ears. 00:34.000 --> 00:36.000 Delta Sierra Charlie. 00:36.000 --> 00:39.000 5-0-0. 00:54.000 --> 00:57.000 This is the worst moment of my entire life. 00:57.000 --> 01:00.000 It's a daily source code at the floor 500, 01:00.000 --> 01:04.000 it's a daily source code at the floor 500. 01:04.000 --> 01:07.000 With your dinging and your list up hot fodder Adam Curry, 01:07.000 --> 01:11.000 with your dinging and your list up hot fodder Adam Curry. 01:11.000 --> 01:15.000 It's a daily source code at the floor 500, 01:15.000 --> 01:18.000 it is the daily source code at the floor 500. 01:18.000 --> 01:25.000 Congratulations on achieving this amazing people podcasting and for the brand new Hot Show Blossom. 01:25.000 --> 01:32.000 It was $16 million worth of airplane strapped to my ass, then the next generation 01:32.000 --> 01:36.680 radio content in my ears. 01:36.680 --> 01:40.960 I like to think I'm flying into the future. 01:40.960 --> 01:42.960 Hello, Curie. 01:42.960 --> 01:47.960 Thank you for being a friend. 01:47.960 --> 01:52.960 Travel down a road and back again. 01:52.960 --> 01:55.960 Your heart is true. 01:55.960 --> 06:03.960 [ Music ] 06:03.960 --> 06:07.960 That's right. 06:07.960 --> 06:11.960 Might as well start to show off with it. 06:11.960 --> 06:13.960 With the thanks. 06:13.960 --> 06:15.960 Thank you for making 500 episodes possible. 06:15.960 --> 06:21.920 500 episodes possible without doubt it would be nowhere near that amount everybody how you 06:21.920 --> 06:26.880 doing this is daily source code Delta Sierra Charlie episode 500 coming to you from the 06:26.880 --> 06:33.320 Curry condo in a very misty northern California San Francisco to be exact good to have 06:33.320 --> 06:38.720 you all long for for this 500th episode I haven't done a tremendous amount of preparation 06:38.720 --> 06:43.560 I don't think I really ever do a lot of preparation for you know those round numbers 06:44.040 --> 06:47.880 We've had some interesting ones episode 200 of course was at 06:49.000 --> 06:55.000 Nome decks in Seattle that was just coincidence. I could have actually done episode 500 yesterday 06:55.800 --> 07:00.760 Or I'm sorry the day before I'm messed up already. It is now Monday. It's very early in the morning 07:00.760 --> 07:08.120 As you know, I'm on my San Francisco schedule, which is a healthy 5 a.m. wake-up call and a diet of caffeine, aspirin, and maroine 07:08.760 --> 07:12.680 And I'm feeling just fine. It was Saturday with the podcast con UK 07:13.160 --> 07:15.960 About 180 200 people in in London 07:16.760 --> 07:18.760 got together and 07:18.760 --> 07:26.520 Had a an independently organized conference regarding podcasting a lot of the I would say almost typical discussions 07:27.080 --> 07:30.200 Conversations which regardless of outcome if any 07:30.680 --> 07:33.960 It's always good for people to get together and get those neurotransmitters 07:34.280 --> 07:35.800 Bob and off each other 07:35.800 --> 07:40.680 Anyway, so I could have done episode 500 there, but I definitely didn't feel that was that was appropriate 07:41.640 --> 07:44.920 So so first time from from San Francisco 07:45.720 --> 07:52.840 For the for the next 500 and really and I said this at podcast con UK is I was asked to introduce the shakes 07:53.160 --> 07:56.200 Who perform live fantastic fantastic performance 07:56.760 --> 08:01.080 Everything fucked up everything went wrong, but because they were just so funny about it 08:01.080 --> 08:05.000 It really really worked and of course once things were cranked and they were slamming 08:05.880 --> 08:11.720 And I actually said that I realized that those 500 episodes the majority of those certainly not all 08:11.720 --> 08:16.040 But the majority have been created in the United Kingdom and I thanked everybody there who would 08:16.040 --> 08:21.640 Sent in comments intros openings pod safe music and and as I was sitting down watching the shakes 08:21.640 --> 08:23.640 I'm thinking fuck I forgot to say something else 08:23.640 --> 08:28.280 There was one other thing I wanted to say particularly to that audience is I wanted to thank everyone there 08:29.000 --> 08:32.680 For making myself and my family feeling so welcome in the United Kingdom 08:33.000 --> 08:39.080 There's been every single time we had a question or or you know a yanks versus the Brits moment or just something like whoa 08:39.080 --> 08:41.080 What the hell is going on here? 08:41.080 --> 08:48.520 The it was literally yes listeners, but a lot of the podcast community in the UK who chimed in sent me audio comments and have helped us 08:49.400 --> 08:56.040 Learn more about the country we live in which we're enjoying to the extreme amount I have to say 08:57.000 --> 08:58.200 Um 08:58.200 --> 09:03.560 So of course if you want to know about podcast con UK all you have to do is just to troll the voicemail lines and there's our trusty 09:03.560 --> 09:05.560 Yeah buddy Paul Nichols 09:05.560 --> 09:07.560 Adam heights for Nichols here 09:07.560 --> 09:10.600 Just driving home after the podcast conference and 09:12.440 --> 09:20.120 I've just got so many things buzzing around my head up just to adjust the program and it was a couple of podcasts 09:21.080 --> 09:25.960 The bands were fantastic the guys on the panel were fantastic 09:26.440 --> 09:32.280 Thanks for coming thanks ever such a lot of again for helping to sponsor the 09:33.800 --> 09:40.920 The podcast conference it really was a great success and I'm really looking forward to the next year 09:40.920 --> 09:44.520 And what a great was and you don't see me chatman just 09:45.080 --> 09:47.080 Such a good like 09:47.640 --> 09:50.440 One great photographer is why we chat just like a side 09:51.160 --> 09:53.160 Well lovely like 09:53.160 --> 09:58.520 See you soon mate, but it's indeed a lovely blow. Yeah, we had a good time and afterwards we all went to the pub and hung out 09:58.520 --> 10:01.720 I think it's a longer time of actually hung out in a pub and I enjoyed it very much 10:02.040 --> 10:05.160 Particularly because I was able to have a a true traditional bitter 10:06.040 --> 10:09.160 And not shows. Oh, man, that's a young spritz thing right there 10:09.400 --> 10:15.880 So as Andrew Gold's said at the opening of the show, thank every single one of you for being a friend. It is truly appreciated 10:17.000 --> 10:20.520 Independently produced audio entertainment audio entertainment 10:20.520 --> 10:25.400 The internet is not something that you just dump something on it. All right, you just drag them 10:25.400 --> 10:27.400 Curious I love the run is 10:32.600 --> 10:34.600 Who cares if you're stumbling above 10:38.680 --> 10:41.240 Oh, yeah, there's more where that came from coming to you from courty cottage 10:41.240 --> 10:42.680 We caught it we caught it courty cottage 10:47.080 --> 10:50.200 Wow, that was awesome. This is the daily source code everybody how you doing 10:51.080 --> 10:55.400 Episode 500 love it with all the stuff you guys are putting together as fantastic 10:56.440 --> 10:58.200 Even the 10:58.200 --> 11:01.400 Even the artwork for today's show is extremely appropriate 11:01.800 --> 11:06.040 I think if I say anything I need to talk about that happened over the week and of course some day morning 11:06.040 --> 11:08.040 I left bright and early 11:08.040 --> 11:10.680 Virgin Vs 19 to San Francisco 11:11.880 --> 11:17.000 You know same old the same flight same chair actually I always get 12k 11:17.640 --> 11:20.040 I love sitting on the right-hand side of the aircraft for some reason 11:20.600 --> 11:25.000 Wasn't very full the flight and I wasn't at all that tired so it just you know 11:25.000 --> 11:27.960 I still maybe an hour or so so by the time I went to bed last night around 11:28.520 --> 11:31.000 Oh man, it was like a 10 30 or something like that 11:31.400 --> 11:34.920 PST time I was tired. I was pretty ripped 11:36.280 --> 11:38.280 I saw the queen movie the queen on 11:39.400 --> 11:43.160 On the in flight entertainment system which truly is a fantastic 11:43.240 --> 11:46.520 Selection date refresh it every single month at the beginning of the month 11:47.720 --> 11:52.520 I was a pretty fun movie learn a little bit about about the monarchy and I think now I understand 11:53.480 --> 11:55.720 Of course not having gone through the 11:56.440 --> 12:01.800 Gone through the events of princess Diana's death in the UK. I can understand now where a lot of this hatred 12:02.600 --> 12:04.600 Towards the royal family is coming from 12:06.440 --> 12:09.480 Just very interesting and another great great history lesson 12:09.880 --> 12:11.480 So even though we've got 12:11.720 --> 12:13.400 Oh man, I have so much stuff to play 12:13.400 --> 12:16.200 It's gonna be probably a little bit longer show today and again 12:16.200 --> 12:20.840 I didn't produce or prepare anything. I just basically collected all the stuff you guys was sending in 12:21.160 --> 12:24.440 I'm just talking all the bits uh putting them all together. However 12:25.160 --> 12:27.400 There was something that I'd asked Andrew Grummet to do 12:27.960 --> 12:30.200 Well actually he came up with it himself 12:30.200 --> 12:35.400 Remember we had this problem with juice which is the pod catcher formerly known as lemon iPod or lemon 12:35.960 --> 12:37.960 um 12:38.200 --> 12:41.640 With the new uh with the pod show plus upgrade version 2.0 12:43.000 --> 12:46.200 A lot of users of juice all of a sudden found themselves downloading 12:47.080 --> 12:48.440 a whole bunch of pod show 12:49.320 --> 12:50.680 Podcasts again 12:50.680 --> 12:53.320 Which of course is not desired behavior and 12:53.800 --> 12:56.600 Well now we're fortunate enough to have Andrew Grummet 12:57.000 --> 13:02.600 One of the lead developers on both those prod well on iPod or lemon iPod or iPod or lemon and juice 13:03.080 --> 13:05.320 To be working with us here at pod show and 13:06.040 --> 13:11.080 And so I said you do what happened there how do how do we do that and and you said you know what? 13:11.080 --> 13:14.840 I'm gonna dress this and I'm gonna do a DSC style with an audio comment 13:15.480 --> 13:17.480 plus one two 13:18.760 --> 13:20.760 Is this thing on oh 13:20.760 --> 13:23.320 Hi there Adam. No hold on a second Andrew 13:24.200 --> 13:27.640 Man why are you uh why are you in mono? How is that? 13:28.120 --> 13:30.120 Ah 13:30.680 --> 13:33.720 So of course, I don't have my uh the right mixing board here 13:34.360 --> 13:36.360 I the hell is that a mono? 13:36.360 --> 13:38.360 Oh that sucks so bad 13:39.400 --> 13:41.400 um 13:42.280 --> 13:43.880 I have no way to fix that right now 13:45.400 --> 13:47.080 Shit 13:47.080 --> 13:49.080 You know what it's so good 13:49.080 --> 13:53.800 Oh I feel horrible now all I was like I have this uh this different mixer here 13:54.680 --> 13:59.560 Uh at the at the condo. I don't think I can make it into a stereo fuck I just listen in mono 13:59.560 --> 14:01.560 Andrew Grummet here um 14:02.600 --> 14:07.880 I uh I'm sending you this comment to respond to Paul Smith's question about 14:08.920 --> 14:13.000 Pod show shows read downloading in his juice receiver 14:14.040 --> 14:17.720 Well uh I'll have to take the heat for this one and I'll explain why 14:18.680 --> 14:24.280 Have to warn you though. I had to dig around in the juice code quite a bit to get the sensor and it's gonna be a serious 14:24.920 --> 14:29.240 10-foil hat moment so oh hold on a second hold on a second if it's a 10-foil 14:48.360 --> 14:50.360 Oh 14:51.320 --> 14:58.680 Pod casts are syndicated through RSS as many of you know RSS of course really simple syndication feeds 15:00.200 --> 15:06.600 And just about all software programs that read RSS have a basic decision to make as they examine the contents of the feed 15:07.400 --> 15:12.200 Have I seen this item before if I haven't it's time to download the pod cast 15:12.920 --> 15:16.040 If I have seen the item before no further action is needed 15:17.000 --> 15:20.520 So in the early days of pod casting we use the media URL 15:21.480 --> 15:26.120 HTTP colon something something something slash podcast.mp3 15:27.240 --> 15:30.200 We use that URL to determine if an item had been seen for 15:31.480 --> 15:35.240 As pod casting evolved and people started changing hosts and domain names 15:36.040 --> 15:44.680 We switched to using the RSS gooid element which if preserved when the pod cast changed domains would still be seen by the pod cast receiver as 15:45.000 --> 15:46.680 quote unquote the same item and 15:47.320 --> 15:52.920 That way a person could move their their pod cast from one place to another without causing redown loads 15:55.080 --> 16:01.000 So once we had a good support to juice if you came clear that we could support even more obscure edge cases 16:02.280 --> 16:07.880 We had a handful of people who at some point wanted to start reusing the same media URL 16:09.000 --> 16:13.800 Something like you know food.com slash latest.mp3 16:14.120 --> 16:17.960 I wanted to use that same URL over and over again for their pod cast 16:19.000 --> 16:24.040 So in the old days juice would simply download the first version of that file and seeing that the URL 16:25.480 --> 16:27.480 Was the same 16:27.480 --> 16:31.080 Would stop there and then and none of the further pod cast would be downloaded 16:32.120 --> 16:37.160 But if the pod cast changed their good each time that was enough to tell juice to read download 16:37.480 --> 16:39.480 Even though the same URL was used 16:40.280 --> 16:42.280 Okay, so coming back to pod show plus 16:43.960 --> 16:47.480 When we launched v1 back in July we forgot to put in the gooid element 16:48.280 --> 16:52.680 We finally added that element just before the v2 launch. Oh, sorry just after the v2 launch 16:54.120 --> 16:59.320 So what happened was that juice saw the change in the gooid it changed of course from nothing to something 16:59.880 --> 17:03.960 It saw that as a directive to read download even though it had seen the URLs before 17:05.640 --> 17:08.840 So bottom line atoms right something did change in the feed 17:09.800 --> 17:15.560 There is a much we can do it easily at this point since for most of folks the the you know download 17:15.560 --> 17:20.440 Saturation is now in the past and in any case the problem will have cleared itself 17:21.720 --> 17:25.080 After the read download so if you managed to catch things on time 17:25.800 --> 17:31.160 Just go through your subscriptions and mark any pod cast episodes that you've already seen before as skipped 17:32.040 --> 17:37.240 You can do this and juice by using the down arrow in the space bar quickly alternating 17:38.120 --> 17:40.520 After clicking in the episodes area for the pod cast 17:41.480 --> 17:45.240 So in some my apologies to folks for the bandwidth squeeze 17:45.720 --> 17:49.240 You may now return to your regular porn downloading schedule 17:50.120 --> 17:52.120 Yo 17:52.120 --> 17:55.800 I was thinking of all kinds of appropriate punishments for Andrew 17:56.920 --> 18:03.240 for doing that and I was thinking maybe we should make him suck a gallon of beer through a straw kind of 18:03.640 --> 18:05.640 Emulate that bandwidth issue everyone's had 18:06.600 --> 18:10.680 But now I just think and hey man if you just make your shit and stereo that'll be good enough 18:25.640 --> 18:32.440 Hey there Adam Howard Greenstein here and I just wanted to wish you congratulations on your 500th episode of the Charlie 18:33.240 --> 18:39.240 Usually I'm one to send you funny bits like I did for DSC 400, but you know this weekend 18:39.240 --> 18:42.920 I had to spend some quality time with the family and it really was wonderful to be able to do that 18:43.560 --> 18:49.000 So it didn't happen enough of time to create something really amazing, but stay tuned to have something in the works 18:49.640 --> 18:55.720 And it will be a lot of fun and we'll show up as the intro to a Charlie in the very near future 18:55.720 --> 18:57.720 I hope so 18:57.720 --> 19:00.120 For me and my family to you and yours 19:00.680 --> 19:02.120 Happy Thanksgiving 19:02.120 --> 19:06.520 Congratulations on the new place and congratulations on 500 shows and 19:06.920 --> 19:12.280 When you get a chance add me to your playlist. It's a chat and a song over there at Pod Show and 19:12.920 --> 19:17.000 You know, it's just a small thing. I do for my friends a little chat and a song 19:17.400 --> 19:21.240 Perfect podcast anyway Adam congratulations on 500 and take care 19:21.240 --> 19:23.240 All right, I would thank you very much buddy 19:23.560 --> 19:28.280 Thank thanks to all of you for calling in and leaving all these nice messages on our phone lines 19:28.280 --> 19:31.080 Of course, we have two of them one in the U.S. and one in the U.K. and 19:31.880 --> 19:36.520 Don't forget you need to put a plus before each number if you're dialing it from your cell phone 19:52.040 --> 19:56.200 I've figured out that I can't play those to the the U.S. and the U.K. voicemails 19:56.680 --> 20:01.000 After each other because whichever one is last is the one that sticks in your head and so we've got to really promote 20:01.000 --> 20:03.000 You get number a little bit better 20:03.000 --> 20:08.760 So I'm here for the Thanksgiving week and of course work work continues here. I have no idea in a of the 20:09.160 --> 20:12.440 First of all first thing I'm gonna do this morning when I get in as I'm going to 20:13.160 --> 20:18.360 Sit and meet I think at least ten people who have not met yet who have joined since the last time I was here 20:18.360 --> 20:20.360 Which was only a month ago 20:20.360 --> 20:22.360 And of course I'm going back 20:22.360 --> 20:27.800 for a quick week at home and then I'm coming back for another ten or fourteen days just before the holiday 20:28.200 --> 20:31.960 Celebrations and of course second week of January we are moving house 20:32.440 --> 20:35.080 So I've got a lot of stuff to do back in the U.K 20:36.280 --> 20:40.920 And so you know, I figured I'm sure that there will be some lost souls here 20:41.800 --> 20:43.800 It's always that way 20:43.800 --> 20:48.440 You know during the holiday is always someone who doesn't have a place to go to or the plan wasn't 20:48.440 --> 20:53.720 Go to go visit their family this year and so I'm hoping that I can pull a bunch of people together 20:53.720 --> 20:56.040 And we can go out somewhere and we can have a nice Thanksgiving dinner 20:57.000 --> 21:02.920 And you know of course that this this girl from San Diego Giselle has been calling up with some really 21:04.120 --> 21:06.920 Sexual stuff she sent me a picture by the way as I asked her to and 21:10.120 --> 21:12.120 I could get in so much trouble 21:12.120 --> 21:16.120 She's very cute and she's then what she sent along with the picture of the thing she said 21:16.360 --> 21:19.560 I can't even be repeated on not even on this show and 21:20.840 --> 21:25.080 So you know what what's kind of like and I just I 21:26.040 --> 21:28.680 Thought it was a joke honestly when she first started off 21:29.800 --> 21:31.800 And now I'm starting to get a little bit worried 21:32.200 --> 21:34.200 Particularly when I heard 21:34.200 --> 21:36.840 This call come into the voicemail line 21:37.480 --> 21:42.360 Hey, I don't know who this is but stop fucking calling Giselle at home 21:42.360 --> 21:44.360 Oh 21:44.920 --> 21:51.960 That so here's what I what I think happened is she's been calling this this number and her boyfriend 21:52.360 --> 21:54.920 Either saw the numbers dot well obviously I didn't call her 21:55.800 --> 22:01.000 But he probably saw that number is dialed or received or thought it was received on her phone and called 22:02.440 --> 22:04.440 Because she does call in quite a bit 22:05.320 --> 22:07.960 That guy sounds really fucking pissed off listen again 22:12.440 --> 22:14.440 Is now they at home 22:15.960 --> 22:17.960 Oh man 22:18.680 --> 22:21.400 And he sounds like seven feet tall like and beat me to a pulp 22:21.960 --> 22:27.240 I think I'm gonna hang back on this one. Hi Adam. It's Phil from Cornwall just to let you know 22:27.800 --> 22:29.720 Had a listen to the latest tweet 22:29.720 --> 22:33.160 77 and it's titled as to you mate the 22:34.200 --> 22:35.880 We're referring to you from 22:35.880 --> 22:39.240 55 minutes 41 seconds and for Twitter. I think it's fairly 22:40.040 --> 22:41.320 favorable 22:41.320 --> 22:43.320 a piece 22:43.320 --> 22:45.320 And not that you need the 22:45.320 --> 22:47.320 Family whatever but 22:47.320 --> 22:48.360 There you are 22:48.360 --> 22:52.520 Will Harris from slash.net was there and mentioned he saw you so 22:53.480 --> 22:58.120 If you're in a mood John's more like for the show so you'll probably will download it anyway 22:58.440 --> 22:59.720 Just thought you'd like to know 22:59.720 --> 23:02.760 Here's my tellings folder. Bye 23:03.320 --> 23:07.720 Yeah, thanks for the heads up. I got uh now I do listen to uh to Twitter 23:08.680 --> 23:11.880 And as you just referred to I wonder how they knew that 23:12.440 --> 23:16.440 Usually I only listen when when I see in the show notes the chondavor acts gonna be on 23:17.320 --> 23:20.040 Because it is a long show and I have you know even I have to 23:21.320 --> 23:26.520 Select as to you know when I'm gonna listen to but I've gotten a lot of people saying that there's something on the show that I need to listen to 23:26.520 --> 23:29.640 Hello Mr. Craig. It's a listener from Canada 23:30.280 --> 23:34.440 Who unfortunately I didn't have the chance to listen to your show for the past months 23:34.440 --> 23:39.320 But don't worry. I listen to you all summer can't be motivated during long work days 23:39.880 --> 23:46.680 I just listen to Twitch. Would you say you listen to if John C. Devore Act is a member and I will admit 23:47.160 --> 23:48.920 Yes, I sometimes do that myself 23:49.320 --> 23:51.720 Well, it just maybe bumps on my priority list 23:51.720 --> 23:53.960 But I think you should take them off on it because 23:55.080 --> 23:56.600 On their deal 23:56.600 --> 24:01.000 Because I think it would be really interesting just here your side of the whole story 24:01.640 --> 24:03.880 Well, not your side of story, but we're in pain 24:04.680 --> 24:07.720 That's a little interesting, but I do I do agree with some of you 24:07.720 --> 24:13.480 Oh, okay, I get it. Ah, yeah, some guy it's podcast con UK interviewed me and he 24:14.040 --> 24:20.360 He's a sometime he does a sometime appearance on on Twitter. Oh, okay, so what they were ragging on my 24:21.480 --> 24:26.360 My sweater and they have some kind of bet. All right. I will listen 24:27.480 --> 24:31.240 I'll have to find out what the Twitter boys are up to folks on serious satellite 24:31.320 --> 24:35.080 If you want to hear the rest of this podcast, you're going to have to go to daily source code dot com 24:35.880 --> 24:39.320 Because it's just outlasting the satellite window. I'm so sorry 24:41.000 --> 24:42.760 Pretty good 24:42.760 --> 24:48.920 Pretty good thought here. Hey, Adam. This is more cramsy in Austin, Texas and to simplify things 24:49.800 --> 24:51.800 Why not just call it 24:51.800 --> 24:53.800 D-S-C-D 24:55.640 --> 24:58.440 Yeah, for yeah for for for Roman numeral 24:58.760 --> 25:00.760 500 is that it I guess the D 25:01.400 --> 25:04.600 I don't know. I mean for those of you who are wondering why these are numbered 25:04.600 --> 25:09.640 It's something we figured out a long time ago. It's so much easier for people on the go to just 25:10.200 --> 25:14.840 Hit the play button and know right from the get go if it's a show they've heard or have not heard 25:14.840 --> 25:20.200 And these is way to do that is obviously by by numbering it and people do it kind of seem to remember that 25:20.200 --> 25:23.000 And as mainly done for the nano users who had no display 25:23.640 --> 25:28.440 But also for lots of other mobile devices that just you know don't display 25:28.920 --> 25:34.360 Thing this show note to the title in in a fashion that you know that you could probably do on the go if you're driving et cetera 25:34.760 --> 25:43.720 So I will just keep on going 502 501 by by tomorrow and I want to wind up today's celebratory episode with song from 25:44.360 --> 25:49.240 Actually it is these song. I have to say that really got my juices flowing 25:51.080 --> 25:52.600 Two years ago over two years ago 25:53.640 --> 25:56.200 When we well I guess when we started numbering the shows 25:57.160 --> 25:59.480 It was all talk back in the time 26:00.760 --> 26:07.240 I think that we smartly had all kind of figured out hey wait a minute. Maybe we we should not be playing any music because 26:07.720 --> 26:12.040 This music licensing thing is is very complicated. This is before the pod set music network as well 26:12.920 --> 26:16.840 The music licensing is complicated and we got something really interesting going here 26:16.840 --> 26:21.480 Why don't we just stay away from playing music all together because the last thing we needed 26:22.040 --> 26:28.120 Over two and a half years ago is to have you know the RIA brand podcasting as some type of 26:28.760 --> 26:35.960 elicit pirate activity and and so that's literally what it was there were very there were still little equies 26:37.640 --> 26:40.680 Remember that we used to talk about it's the who was it who said that's still the liquid 26:41.240 --> 26:46.520 Podcasting is nothing more than solid liquids which of course is partially true, but it's become so much more 26:47.480 --> 26:53.080 But I do recall bumping into a band online who had their there's their songs online 26:54.280 --> 26:59.240 Available for I think was a preview listen or whatever or no. I had one song you could actually download and they were selling 26:59.400 --> 27:09.080 There's CDs on CD baby completely independent four girls from New York and I really really thought the song that I had found which is for off of their CD was so appropriate 27:10.040 --> 27:16.120 In so many twisted ways is to what was happening with with this thing that at the time wasn't even called podcast 27:16.200 --> 27:18.200 podcasting we didn't really have a name for it 27:19.240 --> 27:25.240 That I you know, I sent the singer of the band and email and said hey, would you mind if I if I played this song? 27:25.800 --> 27:28.840 Oh my I'll my show over here and I send you I'll give an example 27:28.840 --> 27:34.120 She said yeah absolutely knock yourself out and so I put a link back to to their site and where they sell their CD 27:34.120 --> 27:38.680 And as I said I you know iTunes even and no, I'm sorry not I would they selling it on iTunes 27:39.240 --> 27:41.240 I think they might have had it on iTunes at that point 27:41.720 --> 27:43.720 but definitely a CD baby and 27:43.720 --> 27:51.000 And and I played it and then a couple other people who were experimenting along with us in those early days played it and then a few weeks later 27:51.000 --> 27:53.560 I got and email back that said hey, you know, we're actually 27:54.280 --> 27:58.040 selling CDs because of this and that's when I got that's really 27:58.680 --> 28:04.200 When when Ron and I started to work on the pod save music network, you know, how can we make that I mean obviously it's working 28:05.160 --> 28:11.400 There's there's I can now legally use content to fill up my show which I love doing it's it's you know to me 28:11.480 --> 28:12.680 It's the same as 28:12.680 --> 28:17.800 Someone's sending an audio comment. It's you know, it's someone's passion their art their their soul 28:19.160 --> 28:24.360 And you know, they want to get credited for it and and if possible, they you know, they have a business model 28:24.360 --> 28:28.200 They want to make some money so we came up with the idea for the pod save music license 28:28.920 --> 28:35.000 And so really was in those early days this song that band that got my juices flowing and they have not stopped 28:35.000 --> 28:38.360 In fact, they're they're pumping quite quite fast at this very moment 28:38.360 --> 28:43.880 Of course, I'm talking about the listidious bitis and I want to be famous 28:46.250 --> 30:34.680 [ Music ] 30:34.680 --> 30:39.240 But all I don't want one in cheese when I'm famous 30:40.120 --> 30:42.680 Spameless, famous, famous 30:42.680 --> 30:44.680 So exhausting 30:46.250 --> 31:53.900 [ Music ] 31:53.900 --> 31:58.460 I don't get high on colored pills, Martini's dry 31:58.460 --> 32:01.660 A little way and just a touch 32:04.660 --> 32:11.260 I wanna be my famous better than all of my fellow much better than all of her 32:11.260 --> 32:15.820 I wanna be famous slowly and alone at the end 32:15.820 --> 32:36.460 [ Music ] 32:36.460 --> 32:39.900 I don't have kids when I'm famous 32:39.900 --> 32:44.780 Hey, my famous famous, bye-bye-bye 32:44.780 --> 32:48.620 From New York City, the Sylvia's Bitties, and famous 32:48.780 --> 32:51.740 You see how music really is the soundtrack to our lives 32:51.740 --> 32:56.700 Or I used to be radio and convinced it's things like podcasting 32:56.700 --> 33:00.060 Because it really took me back in time to those days in the curry castle 33:00.060 --> 33:03.180 And, you know, just north of Antwerp 33:03.180 --> 33:06.780 And, and was just playing the song over and over again 33:06.780 --> 33:09.820 And it was, it really, it was so funny and it still 33:11.020 --> 33:13.260 It fits in in so many ways 33:13.260 --> 33:14.460 I think you know what I mean 33:15.340 --> 33:20.300 Anyway, you know, we're working, we've been working the past week on 33:21.340 --> 33:23.660 A big pitch for a very large advertiser 33:23.660 --> 33:26.300 We have a pretty, I think a pretty cool idea for them 33:26.300 --> 33:29.180 And it's a video pitch and so a lot of 33:29.900 --> 33:31.580 We ask a lot of people to help out 33:31.580 --> 33:34.300 Because this would be a big network wide thing 33:34.300 --> 33:38.700 And, and obviously it kind of shows an overview of a pod show 33:38.700 --> 33:42.460 But also podcasting in general is that you're just what is out there 33:42.540 --> 33:45.980 And when you look at it at all the different shows and all the different 33:46.780 --> 33:50.860 Creative talent it's just we've done that we've accomplished so much 33:51.500 --> 33:53.500 In a relatively short amount of time 33:54.460 --> 33:57.260 That it really gave me chills just keep watching this thing over 33:57.260 --> 33:59.660 I'm like wow, you know, I forget the pitch part 33:59.660 --> 34:02.060 I'm just like, look at all the stuff that's been created 34:02.060 --> 34:04.460 And look at how rich our lives have become 34:04.460 --> 34:10.220 Because of what all all these creative people have have tasked themselves to do 34:10.940 --> 34:17.020 And, you know, I certainly still feel as my mission to enable as many people to do that as possible 34:18.620 --> 34:19.980 So thank you all very much 34:21.180 --> 34:23.020 This is it for episode 500 34:23.020 --> 34:23.740 Tomorrow 34:25.180 --> 34:26.220 We'll do 501 34:26.860 --> 34:29.180 Another pod show pod cast 34:29.180 --> 34:30.380 Stick it in your ear 34:36.300 --> 34:38.700 Get this pod cast and more great ones like it 34:38.700 --> 34:43.420 On the high performance pod cast delivery network from pod show and lime light networks