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Hey, Kathy, what you doing?

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Oh, I was just getting the
bedtime stories.

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My kids love intro ready for
daily source code 541.

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Fulger's coffee.

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Wait a minute.

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Did you just say Fulger's
coffee?

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Yep, what abouts in sale?

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Things have changed again.

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And now, every time you burp,
it's Fulger's.

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Really?

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So it's not like...

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Splendor?

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Nope.

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It's not Fulger's coffee?

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Yep.

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All right.

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Fulger's?

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Very good, Pearl.

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Now it's time to introduce the
show.

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Daily source code 541.

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With 15 bags of Splendor stuck
in our pants.

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Sugar!

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And 15 bags of toilet paper
hanging from our cracks.

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We don't need no sticking sugar!

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I'd like to think I'm right.

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For the future.

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I'll be honest if she is so
serious.

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I need somebody else.

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I'll just anybody else.

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[ Music ]

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Won't you please help me if you
can, I'm feeling down.

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What's this?

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Am I out of my mind?

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Am I crazy?

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Have I finally flipped my lid?

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Have I smoked one split too
many?

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Oh my goodness.

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Do I want to go to jail?

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No, my friends.

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You just heard the future of the
legacy of Steve Jobs.

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Yep.

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What happened yesterday was
monumental.

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And I want to talk to you about
it.

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And I'm not worried at all about
playing the Beatles.

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One of the most protected
copyrighted artists of all time.

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I would have to say, most
well-managed.

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Most one of the most profitable
catalogs.

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Because things are going to
change very rapidly.

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I've probably seen online in the
headline and newspapers all
across the globe today.

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An essay that Steve Jobs wrote
called Thoughts on Music.

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And it really focuses in hones
in on the use of digital rights
management.

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And he makes an argument.

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And quite a compelling case that
selling music without digital
rights management.

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In other words, restrictions,
which means, well, to cut
through to it.

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Eventually, everything would be
on MP3.

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And you could copy to any device
and you could share it around
with friends.

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You could do whatever you'd want
with it.

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But it will actually sell more
music than the current state of
the union, if you will.

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Excuse me.

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Fulger's Coffee.

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And it's only part of the story.

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And this is a very carefully
orchestrated strategy that Steve
Jobs has been working on for,

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I believe, quite some time.

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We came more or less apparent to
me a few weeks ago at the Apple
keynote at Mac world,

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where Steve Jobs slipped in a
couple of Beatles tracks during
his infamous keynote.

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Not only did he do that, but he
announced that Apple computer
wouldn't be known as Apple Inc.

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And lo and behold.

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And of course, I don't know the
details if it's a true
acquisition or exactly what the
deal is.

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But believe me, Steve Jobs is an
excellent businessman.

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And the deal that he did with
Apple Records is completely to
the benefit of everybody,
including Apple.

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And of course, indirectly Steve
Jobs.

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And let me see if I can explain
this to you because I see this
strategy unfolding clearly
before our very eyes.

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So Steve Jobs knows what the
real money is in music.

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It's in the publishing.

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It's in licensing.

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And he knows because he's been
on the payment end of this by
paying for Beatles cataloged to
use in Apple commercial.

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I think maybe he used a
revolution that may have been a
couple others.

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It probably were.

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So he knows what kind of money
that's, what kind of money that
can mean.

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At the same time, he also knows
that the money that he makes on
sales through the iTunes music
stores,

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pretty much negligible.

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Of course, 2 billion of anything
is a lot of money or it's a lot
of anything.

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But it's really just to spit in
the bucket if you compare it to
Apple's core business and where
they're headed.

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Let me see if I can get this all
down for you.

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So what he's pleading for and in
this memo and of course, there's
a link to it.

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If you haven't read it already,
there's a link to it from the
show notes on today's podcast
daily source code.com.

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You'll see that he's making
very,

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a major plea to the other major
record labels or to the major
record labels to sell DRM free
because he's making a
comparison.

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You really got to read the words
carefully.

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He's making a comparison between
CDs and the iPod.

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And certainly with the way
pricing is working and more is
law and all that stuff.

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The iPod without a doubt is the
CD of the future.

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People are always going to pay
for packaging.

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And we know that there are more
honest people than there are
dishonest people.

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We've proven that with
podcasting artists who are
member of the pod safe music
network have contributed their
music free.

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And clear, of course, it could
be by definition.

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It's being downloaded by
podcasters.

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They're using it in their show,
which creates another copy,
which of course, if you really
wanted to, you could go and rip
it off.

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People aren't doing that.

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And because it's very simple to
go and buy a track through the
pod safe music network or garage
band or CD baby or iTunes music
store anywhere,

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because that process has become
very simple.

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People are doing it because
they, you know, they'll buy a CD
from CD baby.

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Why do they want the packaging?

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How successful do you think that
you too iPod was?

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I have a feeling it was
extremely successful.

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And so of course, of course,
Steve Jobs knows that the way to
go is to package the content.

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In this case, the, I would
presume the entire Beatles
catalog to package that into
special iPods.

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Perhaps even preloaded on on max
that you buy in the store.

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I believe that in the future,
you may even have an iPod for
your Beatles music and iPod for
your commute and iPod for your
podcasts,

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maybe nice.

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I think that's very possible.

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And they'll be completely
interchangeable.

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What's the difference?

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You're just picking up a piece
of plastic.

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You know, a little piece of
plastic.

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You slip it in.

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You stick, you're jam the buds
in your ears and you're off.

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And you've got whatever you
want.

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You can easily carry a couple of
these things with you.

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And they'll become just like
CDs.

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And that's that packaging is
what Jobs knows so much about.

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He knows exactly how to sell to
the, to the, to the customer to
his customer.

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So the way, I think this is the
next step for him.

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And if you do the math, I think
it really works out.

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I believe that now that Steve
Jobs has, in effect, become a
record company and owns, at
least owns the rights to do
something with the Beatles
catalog.

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He will put that out free and
clear of DRM.

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It'll be his choice.

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And I'm sure he's, he's talked
it over with the, with the
Apple, formerly former Apple
records people.

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It'll be free and clear. It'll
be packaged in max. It'll be
packaged in iPods.

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And that's where the money's
coming from.

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And it's going to be huge much
more.

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What, what do you hear the
Beatles on the radio anymore?

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Where do you hear it?

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You don't, except on Beatles
specific stations.

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I've paid for this for these
tracks 10 times in my life on
all kinds of different
collectors, CDs, vinyl, all the
packaging.

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It's all about the packaging.

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And you know what, of course,
I'll buy a Beatles iPod. Are you
kidding me?

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But by doing this, and this is
where I think he sees the light,
his, his legacy.

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By being the first big quote
label to step forward.

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And to say, you know what, here
it is. This is how it's done.

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Watch the money come on in
suckas.

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He's going to break it wide
open.

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And you'll see every single
record company selling through
multiple channels.

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It'll play on any device. You'll
be able to do anything you want
with it.

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Because the real true money when
you have a hit record, a hit
song,

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is in the licensing. It's in the
publishing and to get it to
people.

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They'll gladly pay extra money
if you put it into the right
packaging.

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And that is why I'm not worried
about playing the Beatles on
this podcast.

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Well, that, and of course, the
fact that it was such a crappy
video version.

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I stole off of my space.

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But I don't think anyone would
ever want to go and rip that one
out.

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But this is going to be a very
exciting year.

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I'm, I'm convinced of it.

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And just listen to this.

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Here's some of the reasoning
that I love.

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Today's most popular iPod holds
1,000 songs and research tells
us that the average iPod is
nearly full.

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Listen to how he's talking about
the iPod.

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You know, this is like, it's
like me who with Jaguars and you
know, the ash trace full up,

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time to buy a new one.

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The iPod's full up, time to buy
a new one.

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I don't want to take tracks off.

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I don't want to have to manage
that.

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Look, it costs me 40 bucks to
buy the Beatles in the iPod.

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Maybe it's 60.

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Maybe it's 100.

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Who cares?

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And you'll buy, you know, the
next yell and bands will be
releasing their albums on
special iPod.

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This is, it is so clear that
this is where it's going.

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And there are lessons and not
just lessons, but there's also a
place in here for podcasting.

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So, what can I do?

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Let's have some fun with this.

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Oh, yeah.

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I don't, this is Gabe real one
of your listeners in Dublin,
Ireland.

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Now, I was reading the news
recently.

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That the UK charts for the top
singles have been revamped.

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So, now that any downloaded
track, as long as it's
registered with the system, is
in the

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running to be in the chart.

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And I was, as you might have
heard, this is caused a bit of,
you know, dramatic or people,

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you know, old TV teams going
into the charts and Chris Moiles
ran a little campaign to get

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someone back into the charts and
he succeeded getting into number
17.

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All I was thinking is, is there
any plans for podshow music
network?

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To register with the system so
that podsafe artists could
potentially get some recognition
on

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the charts.

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You know, this is a very good
question.

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I'm glad you bring it up in the
context of, in the context of
what we're talking about in

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Holland.

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Sorry.

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I turned something up a little
too far.

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Okay.

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It's better.

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I don't want to blow your ear
drums out.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So, it's not going to matter
because the only chart that is
going to matter is going

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to be the iTunes chart.

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iTunes will become the largest
record company in the world.

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It's all there.

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They've got the marketing.

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They've got the distribution.

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They've got the customer base.

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What else do record companies
do?

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You know, nothing.

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So, of course, you know, the
hope is is that there will be
enough exposure for indie
artists.

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But once this starts to build
out and once DRM is removed and
everyone's comfortable with

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this equation, you're going to
see all kinds of players and
stores and wonderful ways to
package

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and distribute music.

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And it will no longer be on this
track.

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Of course, people will buy in a
track by track basis, but
there's so much.

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But people love music.

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There's so much money.

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And finally, this shit is being
broken.

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So, for us, what's important
because this is where podcasting
does play a very big role.

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What's important for us is the
pod play chart.

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If you go to podshow.com slash
music, any genre you click on,
you'll see a chart of the

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top songs in that genre as
determined by pod play from
podcasters who are member of the

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pod safe music network, that's
going to be a very important
number because they're still

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nothing more powerful than
hearing your song on podcasts
all over the world.

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There is no more powerful
marketing message when your
friend, even if you're a group
of

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a thousand or a hundred or ten
thousand or five hundred
thousand, if someone says, hey,
I like

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this song.

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Check it out.

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That's the type of endorsement
that radio it gives in
mainstream media today.

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And it's the type of endorsement
of the future.

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Or the qualities there.

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And I'm quite sure that, you
know, if you had the
distribution now because there
are two.

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And you have all these people
playing these songs.

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It would be nice to get these
artists directly nice on a wider
level.

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You know, outside the podcasting
world.

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I thought that might one way or
two.

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Alright, now I appreciate it.

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So there you go.

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It's all going to change.

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God, I'm so excited about this.

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Okay, let's see.

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Where are we at right now?

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Hi, Adam.

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It's Eric Bergen.

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You might remember my name.

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I'm the host of Green Room Radio
in Arts and Entertainment
podcast.

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And in fact, we were one of the
first podcasts to feature a
theme song by Jeff Smith.

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Anyway, here's why I'm sending
in this audio comment.

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I was very involved in the
podcasting world almost since
the beginning.

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In fact, that was one of your
first listeners.

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And I was a dedicated listener.
I listened every single day.

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In August, I made the decision
to stop listening.

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This was in about early to mid
August.

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And the decision came out of the
fact that my other life, which
was that of an actor,

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actually started picking up
steam and I started getting
work.

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And I was in rehearsals all day
and doing shows at night.

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And I just didn't have time for
podcasting anymore.

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I haven't done an episode of my
own podcast since May.

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Don't worry. We're coming back
next week.

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But I just, I just need to know.

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I need a little update because I
want to rejoin the daily source
code listening experience.

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But I need to know what's going
on.

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I can't just join the show and
not know what's going on.

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Did you move? It sounded like
you moved houses?

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What's this free Trinity thing?

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I need if you could just give me
or maybe one of your listeners
could give me just a three
minute update

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of everything I need to know
that's been happening in the
daily source code world since I
guess mid August.

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The last time I checked in in
August, the pod show website had
just gone public.

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But I think that was really the
biggest thing that was going on
then.

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So if you could just, just let
me know, just catch me up on
everything.

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I'm sorry to ask you.

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I just, I want to rejoin, but I
can't just rejoin and not know
what's going on.

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It's like trying to join 24 in
the middle of the season.

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You don't know what the hell's
going on.

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Also, next time you're in San
Francisco,

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I'm here for a while doing a
little show called Jersey Boys
playing at the current theater.

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And I know Adam that you sort of
are a Jersey boy because you
lived there.

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Now, the show isn't about you.

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The show is actually about
Frankie Valley and the four
seasons.

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But I'd love for you to come.

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We're playing at the current
theater right on Gary Street.

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It's right near Pod Show HQ.

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So why don't you come on down.

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I'll pay for your ticket.

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I promise.

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Okay, that's all.

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Just someone give me an update.

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Please.

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Dude, you got to stick with it.

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Although I really do appreciate
the comparison with 24.

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Oh, that's nice.

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Well, there's a challenge.

17:31.000 --> 17:33.000
Anyone want to put that
together?

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It might be necessary.

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That is a good point.

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And I really appreciate the
invite.

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Yes, of course.

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I'll take you up on it.

17:40.000 --> 17:42.000
I think I'm in San Francisco the
week of the 19th.

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So let's say if we can hook it
up, I would love to come to see
that.

17:45.000 --> 17:50.000
It's, you know, I've had my eye
on that production for a while.

17:50.000 --> 17:55.000
And I didn't know that, you
know, there really is kind of a
theater district in San
Francisco.

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Is there any good?

17:56.000 --> 17:59.000
Is it, are they, you know, what
are the things that we're going
to find out, I guess, aren't we?

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Planting a Jamaican get away?

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Fly stone.

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Our stone attendance will see
that you arrive with a load.

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Stone Airlines to Jamaica.

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Fly above the clouds and arrive
with a head full of steam when
you get there.

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And save money with our
specially economy flights, only
29.95.

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Jump once you to fly.

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Hey, Adam.

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It's Seth Harwood, longtime DSC
listener.

18:28.000 --> 18:33.000
After hearing the first few
chapters of Mark Yoshimoto
Nemcoff's kick-ass pod novel,

18:33.000 --> 18:34.000
Number one with a bullet.

18:34.000 --> 18:36.000
And Scott Sigler's awesome, the
rookie.

18:36.000 --> 18:42.000
I thought it was time for me to
bring my podcast novel, Jack
wakes up over to pod show.

18:43.000 --> 18:46.000
Jack wakes up is about what
happens when Jack palms.

18:46.000 --> 18:51.000
A one hit wonder, X action movie
actor hits the streets of San
Francisco

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to help a group of check drug
buyers make one big score.

18:54.000 --> 18:58.000
A drug deal that he hopes will
set him up for life.

18:58.000 --> 19:05.000
But when things turn difficult,
he has to decide what side of
acting and action he's on.

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Thanks, Adam, for all the great
pod show podcasts.

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And I'm looking forward to
getting to know more people in
the pod show community.

19:11.000 --> 19:17.000
When you get a chance, go check
out Jack wakes up at Jack wakes
up. podshow.com.

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I shall do exactly that.

19:21.000 --> 19:24.000
Thank you very much and welcome
to the show.

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Absolutely.

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This is a format that we haven't
even talked about.

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The stuff, Mark Yoshimoto
Nemcoff's doing, Scott Sigler.

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There's a podiobooks.com.

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This is really an interesting
audio format.

19:38.000 --> 19:41.000
And we're seeing people create
books in an audience online

19:41.000 --> 19:44.000
and then selling the physical
hard copy again.

19:44.000 --> 19:49.000
We're back to my favorite word
of the week, packaging.

19:55.000 --> 20:00.000
In our continuing quest to find
out if posh people are potty
pigs,

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we find out some more
interesting tidbits today.

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By the way, I'm in my training
period now.

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I am now officially a folder and
a sitter.

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I got some interesting software
the other day.

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I'm going to try out its SMS
software so we can do voting
here on the chat chat.

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So you can just SMS, it would be
folder or scruncher,

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sitter or standard.

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Actually, let me just, well,
I'll mess with you right in a
second.

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Hold on, let's see.

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Our first posh poddy comments.

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Hi, Adam.

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I'm Darren from Beautiful Melvin
and Australia here.

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Just thought I'd like to chime
in on the posh poddy habits.

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Three.

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I work for three years at one of
Australia's most prestigious
financial institutions.

20:43.000 --> 20:47.000
There's some very smart research
monkeys, investment bankers and
the like.

20:47.000 --> 20:52.000
Without doubt, it had the most
disgusting tolls of any place
that I'd previously worked.

20:52.000 --> 20:54.000
We had a fandom sprayer as well.

20:54.000 --> 20:57.000
It was not unusual to walk into
the stall in the morning and
find,

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well, sheet in places I didn't
think you can normally get it.

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He obviously didn't have much of
a fire in his diet.

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He didn't hear for a while, then
returned.

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Unfortunately, we were unable to
track down the culprit.

21:08.000 --> 21:11.000
On the Trinity project, let's
get her around the world.

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Get her into a container and on
a ship from the Mead to Perth
Western Australian.

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We'll pick her up and dry her
across the Malibu plane to
Sydney.

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That's the equivalent distance
of about London to Moscow.

21:21.000 --> 21:25.000
We can pop her back into a ship
to New Zealand and get my other
key.

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We guys to cut a lap in New
Zealand and then back on a ship
to Auckland for Los Angeles.

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Us can play in a second
navigation.

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There is a challenge.

21:34.000 --> 21:35.000
Thanks for the show.

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I've been listening since about
the first six months of the day.

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I still look forward to my daily
day of sea fix.

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Cheers, Mike.

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Alright.

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I miss Australia.

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I really want to go there again.

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Of course, of course you'll make
it to Australia.

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She's not going to stop. She's
going to keep going around the
world.

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I know it because there's enough
people who are going to fix her
up and keep her running.

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I can't wait to get there on the
road and get this project
started.

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It's going to take a couple more
weeks, but it will happen and
we're going to get her rolling.

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We're good for bad.

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Trinity update coming in just a
couple seconds.

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I am.

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It's Melvin from Seoul again.

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You asked for more toilet towels
in the Orient.

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You might think that South
Korea's economic success has
been built on manufacturing

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motor cars, ships, electronics,
or even knockoffs.

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But no.

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Don't actually build on oral
healthcare.

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Trinity hours of 12 to 2 each
day.

22:28.000 --> 22:34.000
About 20 million Koreans in
factories and offices in
construction sites will brush
their teeth.

22:34.000 --> 22:38.000
In my office you have to force
your way past the 3D cure at the
sinks.

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So I think that's 4 sets isn't
that much.

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To get anywhere near the men's
room.

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Then you arrive at the store.

22:44.000 --> 22:47.000
Here you get the usual smells
and noises.

22:47.000 --> 22:49.000
The creep out from underneath
the toilet door.

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Sometimes you get something a
little bit extra.

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You get the sound of brushing
teeth.

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It's really quite weird.

22:56.000 --> 22:57.000
Cheers.

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Wow.

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You sounded like a Brit.

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Yeah.

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Just to be stereotypical.

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For Brits, it may be weird to
brush your teeth after lunch.

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But it's a pretty good habit
actually to have.

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I want to add there.

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Okay.

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We learned a little bit.

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Not an entire amount about.

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About the problem at hand.

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But it does seem that worldwide.

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People have the strangest
bathroom habits when they're in
public.

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While their bathrooms at home
could be impeccably clean.

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The quest continues.

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Defined out.

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Are Posh.

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People.

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Poti.

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Pigs.

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Pigs.

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Bik.

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Gosset is a fine.

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Question.

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Yes.

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It is.

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Are Posh.

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Pigs.

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C'mon strip.

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C'mon strip.

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C'mon strip.

23:43.000 --> 23:44.000
C'mon strip.

23:44.000 --> 23:45.000
C'mon strip.

23:45.000 --> 23:46.000
C'mon strip.

23:46.000 --> 23:47.000
C'mon strip.

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C'mon strip.

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C'mon strip.

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C'mon strip.

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I beat you.

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Hello.

23:54.000 --> 23:55.000
Cary Adam.

23:55.000 --> 23:58.000
And the same to your charming
madam.

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It is me.

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The C S B.

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as B and tomorrow in London I
will be.

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Please be nice and don't be late
so that I won't have to wait.

24:15.000 --> 24:19.000
Fortunately, World War II is
over.

24:19.000 --> 24:24.000
So my German airplane will not
be shot above tover.

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This interview will be only
about mobile phones

24:29.000 --> 24:34.000
and I bring two stereo superb
microphones.

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See you tomorrow in the meeting.

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Please remember this reminder
greeting.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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Did you hear that?

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The satellite window closed
right in the middle of CSB.

24:50.000 --> 24:52.000
Yep, tomorrow.

24:52.000 --> 24:54.000
Oh, it's all this excitement
that's going on.

24:54.000 --> 24:57.000
And by the way, today we're
picking a Patricia Smart
Roadster.

24:57.000 --> 24:58.000
Yeah, she's so excited.

24:58.000 --> 24:59.000
She's like a little girl.

24:59.000 --> 25:01.000
She has a whole day planned for
tomorrow.

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She wants to...

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She has like a Barbie card.

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It's perfect.

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That's what all girly girls
want.

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She's got a day of driving.

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She's going to the nail salon.

25:10.000 --> 25:13.000
She's going to drive and see how
much shopping she can get in.

25:13.000 --> 25:15.000
You know, grocery shopping.

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That's very cool.

25:17.000 --> 25:21.000
So mixed all of that tomorrow in
London.

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To PM, I'm meeting with online
superhero of the interesting
comic strip blogger.

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And we're going to shoot it.

25:34.000 --> 25:37.000
We're going to do some video.

25:37.000 --> 25:42.000
Because I think a lot of people
are very curious to see what he
looks like and to hear him talk.

25:42.000 --> 25:43.000
Is this real voice?

25:43.000 --> 25:45.000
Is it a real guy?

25:45.000 --> 25:50.000
And I am myself quite excited
about it because how long have
we been communicating

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with each other.

25:51.000 --> 25:57.000
And even though sometimes he
goes off the rails for, you
know, for the rest of the
audience,

25:57.000 --> 25:59.000
he's, I think he's a reasonable
guy.

25:59.000 --> 26:01.000
So, you know, yes, he's
interviewing me.

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You know, I'll be able to slip
some questions in and we'll
learn lots of stuff.

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You know, that's going to
happen.

26:07.000 --> 26:08.000
Beautiful day to day again.

26:08.000 --> 26:10.000
I hope it's going to be the same
on Friday.

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Blue skies.

26:11.000 --> 26:13.000
Very, very cold in the UK.

26:13.000 --> 26:17.000
Minus six degrees Celsius this
morning when Christina and I got
into the car.

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And the predicting snow for
tomorrow, which, of course,
could,

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could kind of ruin Patricia's
day of barbie car driving.

26:25.000 --> 26:27.000
Hi Adam, it's Eric.

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West with the beach happens to
go.

26:29.000 --> 26:31.000
I just wanted to make a couple
of comments.

26:31.000 --> 26:39.000
You had the best song ever that
I've heard on your show with
Beat Hopkins a yesterday

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on the DSC.

26:41.000 --> 26:44.000
I think it was by 40 actually.

26:44.000 --> 26:46.000
Congratulations on over 500.

26:46.000 --> 26:49.000
I don't know if I'm going to
take this further down there a
month.

26:49.000 --> 26:51.000
And I'm starting up my podcast
again.

26:51.000 --> 26:55.000
But the other thing I wanted to
comment on was on, I believe,

26:55.000 --> 26:58.000
in the spot 39 where you stated,
you leave your machine's arm.

26:58.000 --> 27:04.000
It is actually a noted fact that
most systems are made for
continuous run.

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That includes elevators,
computers, just rides.

27:07.000 --> 27:12.000
So, leaving them on actually
last longer than turning them on
and off.

27:12.000 --> 27:15.000
But the actual turning them on
and off, that actually,

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short and very light.

27:17.000 --> 27:21.000
Anyway, just by giving you a
comment and thanks for the DSC.

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I listen every day.

27:22.000 --> 27:24.000
You're first thing in the
morning.

27:24.000 --> 27:26.000
And when you're the only chef in
Cisco,

27:26.000 --> 27:29.000
please keep doing this show at
11 o'clock at night.

27:29.000 --> 27:31.000
Because that way I have it first
thing in the morning

27:31.000 --> 27:32.000
when I'm on my way to work.

27:32.000 --> 27:33.000
Talk to you later.

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Bye.

27:34.000 --> 27:35.000
The eye man, you got it.

27:35.000 --> 27:36.000
Thanks for calling in.

27:36.000 --> 27:39.000
And of course, you've opened up
the geek box of Pandora with
this comment.

27:39.000 --> 27:42.000
Because I think there are equal
opinions on either side of the

27:42.000 --> 27:46.000
leave him on or switch him off
debate as it pertains to
computers,

27:46.000 --> 27:50.000
to tubes, to light bulbs, to
just about anything I think.

27:50.000 --> 27:53.000
But I have to say my personal
experience.

27:53.000 --> 27:57.000
And that's just because I'm old
enough to seeing crap die along
the way.

27:57.000 --> 27:59.000
Is leave him on.

27:59.000 --> 28:03.000
For those of you not familiar
with Raymond, Raymond Port.

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He's a good friend of the
Charlie.

28:05.000 --> 28:10.000
And he was the guy that while I
was recording a daily source
code

28:10.000 --> 28:14.000
on a commute from Amsterdam to
the Curry Castle in Belgium.

28:14.000 --> 28:16.000
That all of a sudden he pulled
up alongside me.

28:16.000 --> 28:17.000
He was honking his horn.

28:17.000 --> 28:19.000
We were in kind of heavy
traffic.

28:19.000 --> 28:22.000
And he says, dude, I'm listening
to you right now.

28:22.000 --> 28:23.000
And listen to daily source code.

28:23.000 --> 28:25.000
And I was like, dude, I'm
recording one.

28:25.000 --> 28:27.000
And it was like a loop.

28:27.000 --> 28:28.000
It was a connection.

28:28.000 --> 28:32.000
It was a really interesting
moment in the history of this
show.

28:32.000 --> 28:35.000
Certainly, maybe a podcasting in
general.

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And Raymond's made some pretty
big decisions in this life
recently.

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I think he's leaving his current
job.

28:41.000 --> 28:44.000
And he's trying to find out
where he wants to go and what he
wants to do.

28:44.000 --> 28:46.000
And he was in traffic recently.

28:46.000 --> 28:49.000
And what else you're going to do
when your name's ready?

28:49.000 --> 28:50.000
Hey, Adam.

28:50.000 --> 28:52.000
It's Raymond from the
Netherlands.

28:52.000 --> 28:54.000
I'm on a road trip today.

28:54.000 --> 28:55.000
That can post Germany.

28:55.000 --> 28:57.000
Most time in the car.

28:57.000 --> 28:59.000
And the traffic jam is all over.

28:59.000 --> 29:01.000
Since it's starting snowing
here.

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Where are you?

29:02.000 --> 29:03.000
I miss you on the lane.

29:03.000 --> 29:06.000
Let me stuck in the same city
traffic jam.

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You're all the A-A, or the
Shigwar V-A, or Smart Roadster.

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Or Trinity.

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I'll have some time on my hands.

29:16.000 --> 29:20.000
I totally dig the free Trinity
project from early March.

29:20.000 --> 29:22.000
I'll have no, they jump.

29:22.000 --> 29:26.000
Why don't you go up and drive
around for a day or so?

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Let me know what you think.

29:28.000 --> 29:30.000
And it might happen.

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Okay.

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Fine.

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Out.

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Holder.

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That's right, Ray.

29:37.000 --> 29:38.000
Actually, we're changing it now.

29:38.000 --> 29:41.000
No longer are you a folder, but
you're a folders.

29:41.000 --> 29:44.000
So next time you do your
business, you'll think of my
sponsors.

29:44.000 --> 29:45.000
It works.

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You can't help but sing along.

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The Trinity, Trinity, the
quintessential luxury.

30:06.000 --> 30:10.000
Trinity, Trinity, Trinity's at
the bio diesel set.

30:10.000 --> 30:11.000
You're free Trinity.

30:11.000 --> 30:12.000
That's right.

30:12.000 --> 30:18.000
We're taking my baby poo colored
Mercedes 300 turbo diesel.

30:18.000 --> 30:21.000
Station wagon from 1984 running
on Veggie Oil.

30:21.000 --> 30:26.000
Better known as biodiesel across
the USA and around the globe.

30:26.000 --> 30:27.000
We're signing up.

30:27.000 --> 30:28.000
We're getting the group
together.

30:28.000 --> 30:31.000
There's a link at the show notes
daily source code.com.

30:32.000 --> 30:34.000
To the Google group, you want to
join.

30:34.000 --> 30:35.000
You want to let your presence be
known.

30:35.000 --> 30:36.000
We're collecting all your data.

30:36.000 --> 30:39.000
We're going to be mapping out
Trinity's root pretty soon.

30:39.000 --> 30:41.000
And of course, everyone gets
your chance to drive.

30:41.000 --> 30:43.000
Everyone gets a chance to fill
her up.

30:43.000 --> 30:46.000
Everyone gets a chance to repair
her along the way.

30:46.000 --> 30:47.000
Trust me.

30:47.000 --> 30:49.000
I know cars.

30:49.000 --> 30:52.000
So that's the concept.

30:52.000 --> 30:58.000
And of course, she'll be sending
back GPS coordinates and video
and photo at regular intervals.

30:59.000 --> 31:09.000
And all we're looking for now
really is to find someone who
can build a strap on box that
will perform these wonderful
functions.

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I think we might have someone in
the prolific programmer.

31:12.000 --> 31:18.000
I've asked him to send me some
links to some of the work he's
done.

31:18.000 --> 31:24.000
But anyone who calls himself the
prolific programmer either is a
damn good programmer.

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Or he's got elephant-sized
balls.

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Of course, I wasn't completely
correct about what I told you
about him yesterday.

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So he called in to correct me.

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Hello.

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I don't know who's coming here.

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I just wanted to tell you that.

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And email me at first.

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We have that to you because
that's relevant part.

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Um, I was immediately 540.

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I'm having a good new
girlfriend.

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You're glad to request me the
prolific programmer involved for
you.

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But through Trinity project, I
would love to.

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I did, however, I just bought
sent to a friend to send a
dinner and to a camera.

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Okay.

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I can't think that's the effort
in any kind of the present.

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Then you mentioned that they
were doing a machine level and I
realized that's right.

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Colin.

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So I'm nice to join you on the
other way.

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Um, I would also because you
come to the area often enough
and I'm usually in the area.

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I would love to be able to.

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We should discuss the city by
other projects over a day or
some time.

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Either let me know to the DSC or
you can't.

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I mean, blog at post it for
them.

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And come such a little bit.

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Thank you.

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Awesome.

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I love you, man.

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I don't think anyone can
understand what the fuck you're
saying.

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But I do love you.

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I think you're a true character.

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And okay.

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Here's the deal.

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I got no time to have dinner
with anybody.

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I'm sorry.

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I just don't.

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You know, that's just not the
way my life works.

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Certainly not when I'm San
Francisco because, you know,

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dinner is like something from
the, from the takeaway or it's a
frozen food dinner.

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And then I do the show at night.

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Yeah, just don't have the time.

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But I did talk to my friend over
at Nokia.

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And if I'm convinced and then
I'll convince him that we have
the right people who

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actually want to build on this
wonderful open and 800 Linux
based platform.

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He does have some development
machines available.

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So let's get the group together
guys.

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Let's, let's, you know,
communicate it all through the
Google group.

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Again, you can find a link to
that at dailysourcecode.com.

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I don't.

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Thank you, Jeff Smith.

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I love you, man.

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Okay. So as a part of the quest
to get Trinity on the road.

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We're in the midst of hiring and
I'll just call it a producer.

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For a couple of things for the
entire project.

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And then a whole bunch of shit
that goes along with the
project.

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And that is Barbara the Palo
Alto podcaster.

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Dear diary, you know that dreamy
Adam Curry.

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I'm always telling you about.

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I think he's trying to kill me.

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We're Trinity and I think we
should get our going.

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And a week or two when I get
back to San Francisco.

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I think we're almost ready.

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It's ready.

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Hey Adam.

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It's Barbara and Palo Alto.

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Trinity's Galpel.

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You know, the one who almost had
a coronary when you said the
road trip was close to starting?

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Well, we are making a lot of
progress.

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And I love your enthusiasm for
the project.

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There are still a lot of pieces
we have to put into place before
Trinity can get rolling.

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So please, let's wait until we
have more than a handful of
invitations.

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Before we start talking about a
time frame.

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Okay?

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Oh, man.

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How about helping me get my
heart started again with a
little music?

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So I guess this means David came
through for you, huh?

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Well, now.

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Chocolate cake makes my poor
stomach ache.

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And listen.

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Next time you get a hold of some
KW that send you off into
fantasy land like that.

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Dude, you got a share.

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The coffee and refill makes me
feel alright.

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First of all, method making you
hide.

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But I've never liked going five
days without sniffing.

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As it makes you say stupid
things like,

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I'm sorry.

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The coffee and refill makes you
feel alright.

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It's all that takes you high.

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It takes you low.

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The beans are making fly.

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All the mud will make you slow.

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Shooting speed balls will make
you sell your stereo.

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But you never heard of going in
hawk.

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For a cup of Joe.

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You know the crank will end you
right in the crank.

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Smoke that nasty crack yet you
want to rob a bank.

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[ Music ]

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When you're smoking on a level

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The cop to channel, hey, how's
everything you need?

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X to C, what calls a man to
level off?

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Love you, who is give make you
love a girl you never touch it
on

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Nestling, what turned you into a
little pinky racer

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Stock cappuccino, with a mellow
gauge taste

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Oh, fang, fang, fang, fang

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One sunshine

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Ferguson

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Ferguson, Apollo

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August, August, Barbara

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Sorry about the coronary, my
dear

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Coffee and refer, love that song

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Awesome

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All right, everybody, that's
enough for today

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Perfect timing, under 40 minutes
the way I like to have it

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I hope you have a fantastic day

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Know that this is the beginning

38:33.420 --> 38:35.420
Today marks the beginning of a
new era for music

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The way we'll be able to

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Share it amongst ourselves

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What we'll be able to do with it

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Where we'll be able to put it

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And how we'll be able to
contribute to it

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It's going to be awesome

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DailySourceco.com

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Adam at podshow.com

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If you want to send me something

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Hey, you know what? Why don't we
meet back here tomorrow?

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Either before I meet comic strip
blogger or afterwards

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And well, talk about

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Some more important things

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Another podshow podcast

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Stick it in your ear