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For those of you who haven't
experienced the Charlie well
it's kind of like when you

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have something important to tell
your girlfriend and she says she
has something important

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to tell you but you convince her
to let you go first and you tell
her well I just need

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a little space I don't think
things are working out I think
we should take a break then

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she tells you she's pregnant
yeah that's kind of what it's
like now enjoy the DSC

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548 in a world where TV networks
movie studios and record labels
still think they can

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govern what you see in here one
man has the power to return
control of entertainment

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to the masses and make big media
corporations wet their tiny
little pants from pod show

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comb of the world's most
dangerous new content comes the
daily source code with Adam

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Karrie was sixty million dollars
worth of airplane strapped to my
ass then the next generation

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radio content in my ears I like
to think I'm flying you to the
future

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[ Music ]

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drive away

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you know what it's the date of
El Presidente president's day
you know so

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once out there somewhere listen
to this podcast

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driving from or two relatives
maybe back home

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top down driving around from
Matthew evil drive away

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one of my favorites from the
podcast music network

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good to hear that song again

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it is dating source code episode
five hundred and forty eight

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coming to you from the newly
revamped Adam's attic

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on the third floor of the curry
manner in the affluent suburb of
Surrey

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known as G-town west side

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hey everybody how you doing
welcome to Monday as I promised

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I do a show regardless even
though everyone's kind of off
today

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there was enough enough material
that's for sure

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are you doing

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okay first things first I'm not
in San Francisco buying

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yeah there was some some
business that was interesting
for me to

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attend to in London town so if
post-pone the trip I could

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be leaving as early as tomorrow
morning but more likely

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Wednesday but either way I'll be
bringing you a full-fledged

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Charlie's and happy to have you
along for the ride

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now even though I was home last
night

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I missed a whole bunch of good
shit on TV

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I missed top gear which of
course is one of the three shows
I

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watched religiously here in the
UK apparently

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they tried to turn a a reliant
into a space shuttle

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luckily I have this thing on my
my sky digital so it's been

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recorded I can't wait to see
what the show is about

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why were we so busy

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excuse me as you can tell it's
still a little bit there

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oh by the way comic strip
blogger is now ill as well

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that's going around it's the
nasty ass bug

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you could whatever I have to
laugh or whatever I inhale

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really deeply then the flimp but
you know what I know

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anyway

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we finally did it we cleared up
the entire third floor the the

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bad cave is now complete I got
to tell you this place looks

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fucking spectacular I haven't
decided yet whether I want to
take

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pictures during the day or
during the evening or maybe even
both

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you can definitely want to show
you because I have you know

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like four sections literally
I've got the living room area
I've got

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the desk area I've got the
studio area of course with the

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temporary console since the big
mother load wouldn't fit

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up the stairs then I have the
flight sim area and then I have

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bookcase keyboard guitars are
kind of like a

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music area if you will which is
the more like a display

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and by the way I've now
surrounded myself with all of my

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favorite things which is nice
you know it it's like

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well is it's it's the ultimate
boys attic is what it is

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I'm so so happy okay pictures
coming I promise

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speaking of of automobiles you
know I'm a big fan of this

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Nokia 800 internet tablet some
guys have put together this

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a diagnostic program and I
didn't know this but let me just
go to

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page here for a second you know
how when you drive your car into

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the shop particularly a more
modern car in fact the car

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will actually tell you it's time
to go into the shop because

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they have some you know little
light or some warning or

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perhaps like I'm BMW's you know
first you see green lights

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then yellow lights and red
lights which I'm pretty much

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convinces bullshit and it's just
based upon time or

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maybe mileage or whatever but
you know so they get you to

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enter into the garage into the
workplace and they use

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something very similar if you
have an OBD to compliant

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automobile and believe it or not
most cars built after

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1996 are you can use a scan tool
device and connect

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your Nokia 800 to your car via
USB or in some cases via

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Bluetooth and I you've got to
see this man so they've got

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all kinds of of diagnostics let
me see where they have

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engine load ATP the hell is ATP
must be some kind of

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pressure RPM of course speed
they've got it's it's beautiful

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they've got all kind I don't
know anything about about
vehicle

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diagnostics but how cool that be
and the interface is

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very realistic is just fucking
beautiful it's amazing what's

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being done he stays and this is
done by this is because this

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device is is basically open
source people can build this

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stuff and another thing came out
a preview of a canola

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if you read curry dot com then
you'll see links to all this

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stuff you'll see why I'm so
excited because you know we all

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spoke about from many years now
we've been talking about

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all of only we had an iPod the
way we wanted it let me tell

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you that time is here you can
create the iPod of your dreams

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and in fact some people are
there's new canola interface is

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much better than the iPod
interface and it understands

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podcasts in a different way it's
completely customizable now

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of course there's lots of I
would say the typical end user

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won't may not be interested
until all this stuff is really

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short up and it comes all
prepackaged on the device

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but I guess that's kind of the
the the tradeoff and maybe

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it's kind of the agreement I'm
like in the way this works so
here

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here you go open source world
developers here's here's a
device

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here's the basics now you go and
build some cool shit and we'll

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support you I'm speaking is
Nokia I guess and then when it's

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when we've got some cool
packages we'll really I guess
release a new

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device or an updated device so
we're all kind of working

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together and there's something
about it that I'm I'm really

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really digging I like it

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prismalone

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send me I got lots of links to
post for you today man you send
me a link to an

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automatic toiler dispenser which
looks like it's built out of

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macano is that what it's called
macano I think that's what
that's what

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we call it and like tinker
tinker toys or whatever and it

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folds it folds it cuts it slices
it dices you got to see this
thing

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it's amazing

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hey Adam this John from the
Star's Hollow podcast and I know
the

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whole how do you take your
toilet paper debate is long gone

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but I just had a little moment
that I thought share with you

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I'm recently reading a book by
Douglas Coopland

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Copland I'm not sure I can say
his name the book's called

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J pod which is it's a really
good book and on page 388 here's
what I

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came across John do asked what's
a folder or a crumpler both

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their technical terms used by
the pulp and paper industry said

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Caitlin meaning toy that tissue
manufacturers divide end users
into two

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categories people who crumple
their paper and people who fold
it

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each is 50% of the market Mark
said what about you breed
crumpler

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folder Bree said this is like
the white versus black spy
versus

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spy thing you're changing the
subject I'm a folder obviously

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no I wouldn't have had you down
as a crumpler surprise

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to geeksq in any particular
direction I asked Caitlin said I
suspect

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they're more likely to be
folders so there you go Adam

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I know the whole question of
what is the proper way to take
your toilet

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paper is long gone but
apparently according to Douglas
Coopland

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geeks should be folders thanks a
lot man

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well according to the latest
survey of the daily source code
audience

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79.3% of you out there are
folders at least those of you
who have

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texted in the word folder or
scruncher there was an odd

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full jurors that came in but
those obviously don't get
counted like

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three or four people sent that
in thanks appreciated but it's a

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wonka counted towards the final
tally so yeah 79.3% right now

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for for the folders you know
thinking about it how come that
automatic

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paper toilet dispenser doesn't
give you an option of

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folding or scrunch maybe a
little bit too tough for the
robotics

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I guess but I got a agreement I
think geeks are mainly folders

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it just seems to be that way
over the weekend actually this

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happened last week news came out
of the Netherlands and as you
know

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I speak the language about
podcasting and using license
music

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the NVPI is the national
association of record publishers

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so this would be basically the
record companies who own the

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masters and half of the rights
if you want to include a song

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in a podcast the other half of
course being the performing
rights

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societies which in the
Netherlands is the boomer now
they previously

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had already published a podcast
license for a nominal fee

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of course they said it was
experimental because it's only
part of the

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equation it's the performance
right I think that was

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forget about how much that one
was it was negligible but
everyone

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was kind of waiting for the
publishers to come out with with
their

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part of the deal here

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I'm sorry I tried to have a
folder's moment there but didn't
work

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okay so here it goes this is
very interesting for a number of
reasons

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first of all as far as I know it
is the first time a national

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organization has sanctioned or
even published a rate card

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or fees for using license music
in a podcast

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per podcast non commercial 50
euros per month

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now that's about about 55
between 55 and 60 bucks US

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that is up to 10,000 downloads

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if you have more than 10,000
downloads per month

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of of your podcast regardless of
how many episodes you make

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you will pay another 25 euro per
extra 10,000

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so let's say you had just to
make it simple 20,000 listeners

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which is quite a lot actually I
think by any standards

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you would be paying 75 euros a
month so say about 85 90 bucks a
month

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which of course you know is like
a grand a grand a year

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now if you are a commercial so
if like me

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it's 135 euros per month up to
10,000 downloads

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I haven't been able to find the
additional but I'm just going to
presume

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it's an additional 135 per
10,000 after that

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which brings you to a pretty
hefty sum

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now what's interesting about
this is a it's an astronomical
amount of money

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it really is and I just don't
understand how how they think
anyone

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yeah even the non commercial
rates how can anyone afford that

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I mean you really got to be in
love with it

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but even for commercial podcasts

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it's like you get punished the
bigger your audience is the more
you promote

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the sale of their product the
more you have to pay into it

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because of course the way
they're calculating this is
saying well

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you know it's a 10,000 people
downloading so these are you
know here's the amount of people

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that are going to have the song
for free and probably won't go
buy it

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and then there's probably a
portion of those who won't go
buy the

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buy the album it's like

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you should be paying me 135
euros a month to play your
fucking songs

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so of course the the response is
pretty much long live pod save
music

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but definitely definitely worth
mentioning

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along those lines i i certainly
invite

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the Dutch podcasters to
participate

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in something that a couple of
podcasters seem to just kind of
like organically sprouted up

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although of course part of it is
from a part of it being driven
by a Mark Yoshimode

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and i wasn't quite too sure
about this at first but anyway
it's called operation

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bum rush the charts and here's
the idea

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um the thought here is to show
the mainstream

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that podcasters really have
their shit together and move
product

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and the way um and this has been
figured out the way to do this

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is by playing one song and and
getting the audience

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to buy that song on one day to
influence the iTunes chart

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and presumably the iTunes chart
is pretty real and is not
gameable

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other than the gaming we're
trying to do right now

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um so uh a song has been chosen
mine again by black lab

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and the reason for that as a
black lab actually was a uh had
a mainstream record deal

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like i dropped and of course
they're doing great in
podcasters it doesn't really
matter to me

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which band it is i mean the
whole idea of showing that we
can actually make this happen

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is a pretty cool idea

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go to bum rush the charts dot
podshow dot com bum rush the
charts dot podshow dot com

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you'll find uh all kinds of
information um about uh you know

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uh how you should put this
together

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make sure that uh your audience
is only buying that track

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and on Mark's 22nd which i
believe was chose specifically
because there'd be no other
competing

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music being released on that day
uh but i like this idea and i'm
definitely going to participate

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so um beyond the lookout for a
lot of uh black lab airplay uh
in the next couple of weeks

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and uh and of course a lot of
promoing of March 22nd March
22nd and you'll see uh i have
the

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little uh bum rush the the
charts logo on curry dot com
i'll put it in the show notes
for today as well

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it's a really cool idea and and
i think it will uh look if we
can make a song

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a pod save song go up the charts
by purchases and look you know

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guys in the audience you know if
you're if you're sending me a
text message

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saying whether you're a folder
or scruncher it's probably
costing about the same amount of
money

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particularly if you're calling
from if you're texting from the
states you know so it's one or
two

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text messages spend it on the
black lab track and let's we'll
make news with this there's no
doubt

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about it this this will be
headlines and this will really
show that we've got something to
say

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and that we've got an audience
and we are powerful uh lots of
other cool stuff going on

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the network as well this weekend

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[ Music ]

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Yeah, you gotta listen to that,
man, that's awesome.

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Chuck D has always had his head
on straight,

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which I think is nice, cool.

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Hey, let's see.

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So I'm really excited about the
stuff that I'm doing in London.

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Although I would also be kind of
excited

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to be in San Francisco.

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I think the weather is probably
beautiful right now.

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It's not too nice here outside
the manner.

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Oh, also, I blanketed the entire
manner now with Wi-Fi.

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I finally got, I had another
airport

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which I'd left at the cottage

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and the real estate agent had
it.

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So Patricia was kind enough to
pick that up

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for me.

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And so now I've set up WDS,
which is,

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it's kind of like a long head
for your airport, I'm just
kidding.

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So everything, you know,
throughout the house,

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no matter what base station
you're on,

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there's only one network curry
manner.

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It does actually slow down some
of the throughput internally,

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but, you know, it's not such a
bad thing.

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All, you know, considering the
source of the ADSL

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is not all that fast to start
with,

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but it's awesome.

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So now, anywhere.

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I haven't quite tried out the
distance in the backyard,

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but I think I'm gonna reach a
pretty good distance,

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which is the first time I think
I've actually had

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all areas of a home cupboard.

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So I have my favorite bathroom
where I fold in the morning.

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That's where I use the web
tablet, works perfect there.

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Wait until you see my sitting
area here upstairs

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in the bed, it works everywhere.

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Loving it.

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I really want to talk to you
guys about Trinity.

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I've been thinking about the
free Trinity project all
weekend.

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And I think I've made a
fundamental mistake in my
thinking.

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And I also have a challenge if
you're an engineer or a
programmer.

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Got your attention, didn't I?

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I had him.

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This is Mike, the kids' wife for
a life podcast,

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and I am here with my lovely
wife, Chris.

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No, no, Mike, Mike, Mike, that's
not gonna work.

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This is for Pod Show and Adam
Curry's daily source code.

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We have got to kick it up a
notch.

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Okay, what do you suggest?

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Listen to this.

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We're tired, we're stressed,
we're parents.

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And we're coming to Pod Show.

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Please come and listen to our
adventures

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as we try to balance kids,
marriage, work, and life.

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You can find our show at
kidswifeworklife.potshow.com.

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Oh, welcome aboard guys.

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It's kind of interesting that
you should think that the daily
source code is associated with
disco bells.

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But I appreciate the thought.

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Hi, Adam.

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I just thought it's that by and
give a quick shout out to
folders and thank him for
sponsoring your program.

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As I'm used as I was at your
past drinking habit to the
morning,

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I couldn't get into it because I
am a folder in every sense of
the word.

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I use an inexpensive capational
maker and make a talk up of
D-Caf in the morning

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with a tablespoon of melted
milk, a little bit of sweetener,

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and some 2% frost and top of
that.

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Makes one heck of a cup of
capational.

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Oh, thanks.

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Oh man, oh man, there's only one
thing wrong with your recipe.

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Do you, it should have, you
should be using Splenda.

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What kind of sweeten on you,
sweetener?

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Are you Splenda, man?

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That's when you can really start
to combine the gourmet flavors
of

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folders with the flavor blends
of Splenda.

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Oh, you gotta do that.

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That's what we're Hawkins stuff.

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If you have not checked out
Marie Claire on the Pod Show
network,

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if you liked the Devil Worth's
Prada,

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if you think ugly Betty is
funny,

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well, until you see this show,
first of all, it's short.

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So it's not gonna bore you to
tears.

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Like that movie was long, and it
was fun movie,

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but it was basically, forget it,
one of my saying here.

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That was basically porn for
women, right?

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Whenever you have fashion
magazines or fashion in general,

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it's porn, Prada, Gucci,
Fiorucci,

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ugly Betty in its own way is
also a version of porn,

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and also the, I guess it's the
aspirational aspect that

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I too could make it into the
world of female porn.

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And you, you sitting in your car
right now,

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listening to serious stars 102.

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Yes, you too could be in the
world of porn.

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You don't have to be beautiful
anymore.

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In fact, ugly is the new black.

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Am I saying that right?

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You guys can check out more
daily source code,

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uh, today's source code, a daily
source code.com.

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And of course, uh, more of the
pod show.

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And for those of you hanging
around with me,

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check out Marie Claire dot pod
show dot com.

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It truly is porn for women.

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I kid you not.

24:41.160 --> 24:43.640
Every three, every 30 seconds
has a money shot.

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A century and a half before the
tragic events at Shadow Falls,

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one exoters visions of the
future will lead him

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on a cross country journey to
unlock the secrets

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held inside his nightmares.

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But what he finds behind
destiny's door,

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may be a darkness beyond his
control.

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From the mind of Mark Yuchimodo
Nemkov comes the chilling

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audiobook prequel, Shadow Falls,

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Badlands, be part of the
revelation at Shadow Falls dot
pod show dot com.

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How tricky is that, huh?

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Waiting for season two of Shadow
Falls,

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the runaway audio drama hit on
the pod show network.

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Now check out the prequel,
Badlands.

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How awesome. Hey, what's up with
the,

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this done La Fontaine Guy who,
of course,

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has done a number of promos for
me as well.

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How can we always says this type
of stuff?

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How come Mark always has these
promos?

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Listen to this.

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From the mind of Mark Yuchimodo
Nemkov.

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How come, I can only just,

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how come we're just not honest
about it?

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How come it can't be from the
ass of Mark Yuchimodo Nemkov?

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He's so much more realistic.

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While it's Monday, time to start

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your week off right with an
update on the old galtrin.

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[ Music ]

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Okay, of course, the whole idea
behind free trinity is to take
my 1984 poo.

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Baby poo colored Mercedes
station wagon is a 300 turbo
diesel running completely on

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bio diesel. She's from 1984 as I
said.

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So she's had a few issues.

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In fact, an update from Rosie,
as you know, Rosie has been
tasked with

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keeping trinity running until
she gets ready to go on the
road.

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Oh, this came in, was it the
16th, so Thursday or Friday?

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Adam, as you know, I've been
driving your car regularly.

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Well, the brake warning like
came on the other day.

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Took it to the shop and they
identified that front and rear
brakes

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brakes do need to be replaced.

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Broder's pads and sensors, $585
total.

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The car is pulled apart ready
for repair now if you approve
it.

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Not let me know.

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So hard to bring you another sad
chapter in the trinity saga.

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Actually, I'm not sad at all,
Rosie. I'm glad all this stuff
has happened

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now because I think we've hit
all the vital areas.

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Let's see, we've got the fuel
flow. That's where we've got the
brand new transmission.

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We got the brakes.

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Other than that, Rosie says
she's running great. A small
rattling sound from the engine

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which they identified as the air
conditioning compressor.

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Which is shot to hell.

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They suggest cutting the line to
it and that'll stop the rattle
somehow.

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Doesn't seem necessary at all to
look into a pairing AC on her,
man.

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You know, I got to be honest.

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This thing is costing me a
fortune.

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They got sunk like, you know,
$6,000 into it.

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It's time to get this bitch on
the road.

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Thanks, Rosie.

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Well, almost second. I have
another thing here about what is
this from Trinity.

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Okay, I hold that for a second.

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Okay, so I think I made a
fundamental mistake here

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and thinking that we would have
some kind of relay race passing
Trinity off from one person to
the next

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starting off on the west coast
of the USA towards the east
coast.

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And then far beyond the borders
of the US.

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In fact, we have invites from
all over the world, including
Japan now, I think.

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So here's the mistake I made.

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You know, if you take, so let's
say I live in San Francisco and
like, yeah, I'll drive

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for the first 100 miles.

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How am I getting back?

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And what if I have to drive 200
miles?

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How am I getting back?

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Because that's what that means
that every single person that we
have,

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who's going to drive Trinity
also has to have a ride back.

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I think it's really complicating
matters.

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In fact, I have to be really,
really honest with you.

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I'm almost back full circle back
to the idea that Doug Pilgrim
had to

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to bring his son out to the west
coast and then drive Trinity
across the USA.

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Up to, uh, I was going to drive
to Boston and stop it all these
stops along the way.

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I think that's probably going to
be the best, uh, the best way to

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to get her on her way because,
you know, if she does break
down, you know, who's

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responsible, you know, somehow
I'm going to pod shows going to
have to get involved and do
stuff.

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There's a so many moving parts
to the audio and video ideas
that we want to get up.

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I think it may be better to
actually set it up or people who
want to make a certain trip.

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And have a way to get back to
make the trip and stop along
some, you know, a designated

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route that we, uh, that we
compile together.

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This is just what I'm thinking
today because it, it really, you
know, is like a joke

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sometimes, uh, I've seen done. I
think my dad actually did this
once and I thought it was pretty
funny.

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He was speaking at a conference
and he said, you know, just so
we can all cut a coin.

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It won't just turn around and
say hi to the person behind you.
And of course, everyone

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turns around and the person
behind them is also turned
around. So you're looking at
their back, you know,

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but that's kind of what this
whole Trinity thing is turned
into.

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Now, I don't think that a week
for West Coast to East Coast is
enough.

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I know you can do the trip
probably in about three days.

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I'm thinking it should maybe be
a little bit longer because
there's so many different places

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that, you know, she should go
and maybe we should look at
people who have certain,

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you know, who have certain, um,
routes that they're going to do
anyway

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and wouldn't mind driving. And
honestly, I think I'll spring
for return airfare.

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It sounds like a much, much
better deal.

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Okay, so I'm just kind of
shooting from the hip here and
thinking about it. Now, about
the

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technology side because that's
what a lot of the energy seems
to be about on the free Trinity

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group at Google link in the show
notes, of course, a daily source
code.

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You know, give an example.
Here's prolific. Oh, I mean, uh,
well, where are my manners?

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For those of you who haven't
experienced whoops, uh, hell is
that? Oh, man.

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Oh, the fuck Charlie. Well, the
fuck that I do that for. How did
that go wrong? Hold on.

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Hi, let her. Here we go. Hi. Hi,
I'm this prolific programmer
here. I look at a Python

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at my implementation based on
your request of somebody in DSE.
If I for seven regarding a
Python

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at an attempt to XML or PC
translator, I will work on a get
back on my own. Oh, I'll be
dead.

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Ah, prolific programming. You
slay me, man. All right. So
there's all kinds of geeky stuff
going on.

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And the problem is is you've got
all these people who are very
interested in helping out, but
they

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have no device to test it on.
And of course, it's Linux. So,
you know, it'll work with, you
know,

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with many similarities, but
look, I'm a busy guy. I'm not a
programmer. I got the the XML
RPC thing

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to work, so I can actually
upload media from the N800. That
was really cool. Oscar helped
out on that.

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But how do we actually get
something implemented? First, I
think I need to specify exactly
what

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it is. And I'm going to do that
later today at curry.com, but
I'll just give you a thought.

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So coming out soon for the N800,
or maybe even available as we
speak, is a navigation kit.

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And the navigation kit also
comes with a holder, which will
actually hold the N800. You
know,

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one of those, almost like the, I
guess, the Tom Tom Go, you stick
it onto the windshield. So,

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you know, let's just say there's
a holder, and we could bolt it
on how we wanted to. But it will

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navigate for you. It's like a
satellite navigation system.
Okay. So, if, if we take into
consideration

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that we've got people who are
driving predetermined routes, or
more or less predetermined
routes,

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there's a two way flow to this.
First of all, we want to make
sure that they have their route

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set out. And I presume that
we're going to kind of
semi-control which route they're
going to take.

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Okay. So, it would be nice if
they could load up an overlay of
the route, or just load up a
route

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file, which is fairly standard
stuff. So, they can, you know,
each person or team can follow
that route.

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All right. Here's what I want it
to do. I want the system to
continuously be recording its
GPS

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track. So, that's fairly simple.
I want it to take a picture, and
I've already checked with my

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contacted Nokia when it's in
navigation and the navigation
dock, the little camera, the
little

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penis camera can be extended,
which means you can roll that
towards yourself, the driver, or
roll it

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forward out the windscreen, and
it automatically inverts the
picture so you get it right side
up.

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Okay. So, here's what we want.
At regular intervals, I'm just
going to say,

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make it an hour just to be
really simple. I want a picture
taken. I want the GPS codes
embedded.

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And of course, I want the GPS
track continuously stored.
Whenever Trinity comes within
range of a

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Wi-Fi point, she detects it
herself. I mean, the N800
automatically detects if there's
a

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usable network. So, it'll log
in, signing, and then it'll say,
ah, I have stuff to upload.

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That's when I want it to upload
pictures with the GPS
information embedded into the
pictures and the

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GPS track. And that I think
really would be enough,
considering that the teams that
we have

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who are going to be driving
Trinity across the globe, we
might as well say, we'll be
tasked with

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creating video and audio
podcasts. I think that that will
be just by itself cool enough.
Of course,

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it'd be cool if we could have
some of the diagnostics of her
as well. But, uh, I don't think
she's

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ODB-2, 3, LMNO, PASAP
compliance. So, there'll be
nicer consent back to the
telemetry data. But just

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pictures at regular intervals
with GPS codes embedded where
the pictures were taken and the
entire

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track would be a dream. What do
you think? Now, how do you help
smart engineers and developers

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actually create this if they
don't have a device? Well, I
came upon, I'd say a luminous
idea.

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I'm going to ask Luke at Nokia
to send me the full blown N800
with NAVKID.

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And I'm going to set it up on a
dedicated IP address.

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So, that she's connected to the
net. And I want to, well, maybe
we should figure this out.

35:50.200 --> 35:57.240
But I think if we made a
challenge where I give, um,
sorry for the geeky terminology,
SSH

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access to each individual
engineer for, let's say, three
days at a time. Then we lock it
off,

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change the access, someone else
can come in, can try out their
builds, can try, you know,

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can mess with stuff. I'll also
set up VNC so that you can
actually see the results of any

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interface work that you're
doing. I think it would be like
a fucking awesome project.

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And, you know, and I could just
be looking at this stuff and
actually testing it as we go,

36:25.960 --> 36:32.760
wherever I am because, you know,
I'll use like a, was it dynamic,
what is it, uh, the dynamic DNS

36:32.840 --> 36:38.360
people, or they are, you know,
so that you can always have the
same IP address, same DNS,
entry,

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even though your IP address
changes. And you can just SSH
right into the box, do your
work,

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do all your testing. I think
three days should be enough. So,
if you're interested, send me an
email

36:50.200 --> 36:56.120
Adam at podshow.com. And, uh, I
got some syncing up to do with,
uh, with Barbara, the Palo Alto

36:56.120 --> 37:01.880
podcaster because I've just
basically changed everything
off. So, stay tuned for more
updates.

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Trinity. The cause of central
luxury. Trinity. Trinity. Left
the bio diesel set.

37:09.640 --> 37:13.800
You bring Trinity. Trinity.
Trinity. Trinity. Trinity.

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Free Trinity. You save the
world. You win valuable prizes.
All right. It's Monday. Let's

37:19.640 --> 37:25.800
crank this puppy up. Fresh from
the pod save music network.
Lemon heads.

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[ Music ]

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The bed of number if you're
calling from the United States,
if you're in the UK, we've got a
number

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specially for you. Plug it into
your phone.

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For today, folks, back to the
G-Mails. Looking for people who
want to SSH me. Come into my

41:10.840 --> 41:20.920
ports. Okay, so tomorrow may be
coming to you from San
Francisco. Then the show may be
a little bit

41:20.920 --> 41:25.000
delayed. Sometime this week, I
do expect to go. Who knows? I
might go straight to LA because
we've

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got some stuff going on.
Hopefully the Oscars as well.
The life. It is so busy.

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Stick it in your ear.
