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In a world where TV networks,
movie studios and record labels,
still think they can govern

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what you see in here.

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One man has the power to return
control of entertainment to the
masses and make big media

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corporations wet their tiny
little pants.

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From Pod Show, home of the
world's most dangerous new
content comes the Daily Source
Code

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with Adam Curry.

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Notice Yara Charlie, five-four
nine-year-old, was $16 million
worth of airplane

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strapped to my ass, and the next
generation radio content in my
ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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[ Music ]

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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We're just gonna find out, with
another man.

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One, two, three, four.

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There you go.

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How they sound a lot heavier.

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Not quite together there.

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All right, of course, a link to
their page on the network.

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It is to be found at
dailysourcecode.com.

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That sounds pretty heavy.

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All right, beat stockers.

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Hey, everybody, it is Tuesday.

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You know how I know it's
Tuesday?

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Because it's trash day.

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That's how I know.

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That means I got to get up with
Crackadon and take that crap
out.

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Because, oh, please, please
don't take your trash out at
night.

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In the middle of the darkness,
because you'll get a ticket.

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Mmm, they check that shit all
the time.

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It's Tuesday.

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I'm still here at the curry
manner.

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In the affluent suburb of
Surrey, known as Gilford, in the
United Kingdom.

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West side of G-Tam up here in
the attic.

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I will be leaving tomorrow,
though.

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So tomorrow, I arrive in San
Francisco.

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Just in time, I think, for the
clouds.

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It's been beautiful for the past
week or so, according to all the
reports I've heard.

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And, you know, so now I'm
coming.

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Now it's going to fricking rain.

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So we got to most of the
business that I was stayed here.

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A cleared up or cleared up is
not the right word.

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It's rolling.

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Let's put it that way.

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I just can't tell you about it
yet until all the shit signed
and everything.

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You know, we got a little bow
around it, but I can't wait to
tell you.

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It's really exciting.

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I mean, there's not a lot of
stuff that's going to make me
postpone my trip.

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You know what I'm saying?

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And up here in the attic, thank
you so much for the glowing
compliments of the attic up
here,

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the third floor of the manner.

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If you haven't seen it, shots at
curry.com, you can see this from
fun.

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Some funny comments on there as
well.

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Hey, is this where the green
room is?

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Yeah, I wish.

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I know chicks here, man.

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It's going to be, uh, I think I
relatively short show today.

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It's, uh, it's what I'd call a
slow day in podcast land.

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There's literally nothing came
in.

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No openers, no promos, no.

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Not very, very little, uh, was
sent in.

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Uh, let me see.

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Let me just get my Google
notebook here.

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Yeah, there are a couple of
important things we got to talk
about today.

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Well, at least I think they're
pretty important.

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First of all, uh, you remember
my, um, uh, hey, is this a voice
mail message?

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Oh, that's interesting.

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Hold on a second.

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Let me see if, uh, I thought
that this was, oh, wow.

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Let me see view message.

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Oh, shit.

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Is it gone?

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Oh, no, here it is.

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Well, this would be interesting.

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I was going to talk about EMI.

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Um, one of the big three record
labels.

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Um, now remember my prediction
where I said that, um,

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you know, the record labels are
going to come crumbling down in
2007.

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And when I said the record
labels,

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I'm really talking about the
music selling arm,

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not the licensing arm because
this is what, you know,

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the big guys have figured out is
that, um,

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the licensing of music is, of
course, we're all the money's
at.

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What's the problem with the
product is,

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well, consumers are shifting
their behavior,

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and they're finding perhaps the
purchase of music much less
important

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than going to the concert or
buying the merchandise or
building

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some form of fan relationship
with, uh, with the artist.

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So that is definitely morphed.

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Uh, yeah, folders.

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There we go with a nice bit of
the splendor flavor blend blend.

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I'll see if this comment relates
home on.

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Hello, Adam.

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So I'm like, turn it here.

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Currently, we're looking at a
Shelton.

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I'm just listening to the SC
548.

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Talk about podcasting license
and then the Dutch

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been the first one out.

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Well, actually, you think of
fine,

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the MCPS.

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Oh, crap.

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I wanted to play that in just a
second.

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We'll get back to that.

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Okay.

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So, um, now that it's all the
rumors have been swirling around

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about, um, about EMI looking,

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well, first of all, they had two
profit warnings

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right after another.

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Now, when you are in big company
land,

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this is a bad idea,

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particularly if you have
investors,

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investors do not like surprises.

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They don't even like surprises
on the good end

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because it gets them freaked out
about the next quarter.

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Believe me, having run a public
company,

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was wrong.

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We know exactly what that's
about.

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But to do a profit warning,

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uh, and then another profit
warning a month later

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is really, really bad news.

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Heads will roll as no doubt
about it.

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So what they've been looking
into as far as I understand

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is leveraging their licensing
business,

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which is pretty constant, um,

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or it's proved to be pretty
constant

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to leverage that against their,

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their sales arm, their sales
division.

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And the problem with the sales
division is,

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yeah, this is how it works.

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When you, uh, when you publish a
CD,

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you, um, you have to pay right
then and there,

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there's a whole bunch of,

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when the CD comes off the press,

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uh, there's money that has to be
paid

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for the person pressing that CD.

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And if you send those out to the
store

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and they come back,

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you basically lose your
investment

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unless you can dump them
somewhere

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and sell them really cheap.

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Of course, don't even get me
started

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about where that shit goes to.

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Ever hear of cutouts? Anyway.

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Um, so they're really, really
suffering

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on that end.

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And, uh, and now,

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the, uh, the word the this
morning

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was that Warner records

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has made a bid, uh,

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to acquire them.

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I don't know if that's acquiring

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the record division or, uh,

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the, the sales division

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or if it's the publishing
division.

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And, yeah, we may never know

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until the deal is done

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because this stuff is, you know,

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so typically cloak and dagger.

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Um,

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but it is great

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because amidst all of this
confusion

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we're going to bum rush the
charts.

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If you, um,

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if you don't know what that's
about,

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you definitely want to go to

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bum rush the
charts.blogspot.com.

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There's a link, uh,

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all over the place.

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I'm, I'm seeing it pop up

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on all kinds of podcast on March
22nd

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a day when, as far as we know,

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there are no major releases
scheduled.

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Uh, we're going to entice

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the audience.

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Our audience is collective
audiences

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and this thing is spread

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not pretty far and wide

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to buy one track by, um,

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one band.

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And the band we've chosen, uh,

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is black lab.

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For a couple of reasons,

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one kick ass music to really

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involved in podcasting.

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Three, they used to be, uh,

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an act on a major label.

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They got dropped.

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And, uh, so we're,

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what we're trying to point out
here

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is that as podcasters,

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I'm not going to say the C word

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because I,

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uh, I'm certainly believe in
the,

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the community of podcasting.

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But I do think that we can kind
of

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bond together here and show that
we do.

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Have the power to make a
difference.

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We can make one track rise

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to the top of the iTunes music
charts.

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By sales.

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Which is just as good as,

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as showing something on sound
scan

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and in my humble opinion.

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It's the new version of sound
scan.

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And of course,

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you can make some money along
the way

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if you, uh, use an affiliate
link.

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So your listeners, uh,

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when they spend their 99 cents,

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you'll get a piece of the
action.

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I, I look, I'm going to buy the
track.

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And I hope all of you will.

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I'm not putting the links out
yet

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because it has to happen on
March 22nd.

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That's when we want a complete
bum rush

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to show this, uh,

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show this power that we have.

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And then maybe maybe,

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some of these idiotic schemes,

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which have been published just
recently.

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Yesterday we talked about the,

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the National Association of
Music Publishers

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in the Netherlands,

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charging thousands of euros a
year.

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Up to like, you know,

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for some from a minimal
audience,

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for commercial use of music and
podcasting,

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and commercial podcasts.

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And, uh,

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what was it,

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it was still about, uh,

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about six,

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seven hundred dollars a year,

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translated from euros.

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For a non-commercial podcast,

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up to 10,000 listeners.

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And yesterday I said,

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this was the first, uh,

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published license as such.

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And apparently,

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as you just heard from the
comment,

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I'm wrong.

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Let's listen to it again.

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Hello, Adam.

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So I'm like,

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turn it here.

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Currently, we're going to,

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Shelton, I'm just listening to
the,

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the SC548.

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Do about podcasting license,

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and then the Dutch,

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in the first one out.

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Actually, you think it's fine,

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that the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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and I'm just меч,

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to,

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the,

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this is musical about the dats,

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we,

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the,

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uh,

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the,

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short-sinces,

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here's the�.

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The,

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the,

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the,

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the,

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You must take specific
precautions to ensure that your
dentists be songs cannot be
written.

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How does your podcast?

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I don't know what they mean by
that.

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They're much better to be sound
it.

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Go, men, show.bt.show.com.

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Cheers, Adam.

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Yeah, right, Adam.

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I guess I was wrong about that,
but of course it's still nowhere
in comparison to the great

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deal commercial radio has, which
of course is also completely
recordable and ripable

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and there are plenty of shows
where you can record an entire
album, radio stations,

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pay performance fees, but
because of the confusion about
what is a podcast, it's
downloaded

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or people are going to rip stuff
off and that's what we have
these ridiculous fees.

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So I don't think there's going
to be a lot of traction for
that.

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I mean, I have honestly, I've
considered it.

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I was thinking of myself, well,
you know, of course I can afford
it.

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I can afford it.

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Podshow can afford it, but then
like, so what good is that going
to mean is it's going

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to do for me.

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I'm not going to see, you know
how much I love music history.

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You know how much, how important
I think it is that you hear
certain songs that you just

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don't hear on the radio anymore,
certain genres of songs.

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But to have to pay for the
privilege of education and
actually helping sell music
because

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it's been proven time and time
again that when any song is
played on my show at least,

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I can't speak for others, but
I'm pretty short similar.

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But that sells music.

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It's just a fact, I'm not going
to pay for that privilege.

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It pisses me off.

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I'd much rather bum rush the
charts and help independent
artists and independent labels
also

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who are really understanding
that this world has changed and
there's nothing wrong with

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a record label.

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I think it's fantastic.

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But the record labels have
changed.

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They've morphed.

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They've turned into something
new and they think they're much,
much, much smarter than the

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big guys.

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And I think the big guys are in
big, big, big, big trouble.

14:53.240 --> 14:56.840
Let's see what else that I have
here I wanted to talk about.

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Oh, man, did you hear about
this, serious satellite radio,
which you may be listening to

15:03.680 --> 15:10.480
this show on serious at this
very moment, is set to merge
with XM.

15:10.480 --> 15:14.480
The arrival, the arch rival I
have to say.

15:14.520 --> 15:23.160
Now, of course, this still has
to go through anti-competition
and monopolistic judgment

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and rulings.

15:24.640 --> 15:29.800
But there's a pretty good chance
it's going to work and that they
will actually merge.

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It's just, it's really twisted
my nut here because I'm looking
at what analyst are writing

15:36.240 --> 15:40.360
and a lot of the analysts, even
in the financial times this
morning, as you know, I love

15:40.360 --> 15:41.760
that yellow newspaper.

15:41.800 --> 15:46.440
Yellow, not as in yellow
journalism, but the papers
literally yellow and the stories

15:46.440 --> 15:47.880
are shortened to the point.

15:47.880 --> 15:51.520
But I read that analysts are
saying, well, you know, these
satellite radio stations,

15:51.520 --> 15:55.240
they have to combat the iPod,
I'm thinking, well, crap.

15:55.240 --> 15:56.480
That's us.

15:56.480 --> 15:57.480
What's going to happen?

15:57.480 --> 16:02.560
I mean, I can see many, many
ways to embrace this.

16:02.560 --> 16:06.200
But it's going to be very
interesting to see because when
mergers take place, man, all
kinds

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of funny crap happens.

16:08.000 --> 16:09.560
So I don't have any news.

16:09.560 --> 16:16.440
I've received no internal memos
and I am on several internal
memo lists at serious.

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I don't own any stock, which is,
I don't know, I stopped
investing in stock in a long

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time ago.

16:24.320 --> 16:30.080
I'd like cash and buildings to
be quite honest, they seem to
last a lot longer.

16:30.080 --> 16:35.320
But wow, that is really, really
interesting news.

16:35.800 --> 16:40.920
Now, of course, you know that
the way it really works, the
real sales channel for

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serious is not radio shack.

16:43.760 --> 16:45.920
It's not your local electronics
store.

16:45.920 --> 16:50.240
The same goes for XM, the real
sales channel, the real
pipeline, these guys work on

16:50.240 --> 16:54.800
all the time is the automotive
industry because they're the
ones that are building these

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receivers right into their cars
as they roll off the line.

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And in fact, you, I think you
can even build in your
subscription to either serious

17:05.080 --> 17:11.080
or XM, you can build it right
into to your monthly lease if
you lease the car or

17:11.080 --> 17:13.640
you just pay the subscription
separately.

17:13.640 --> 17:15.800
But that's where the real, the
real sales are going.

17:15.800 --> 17:20.320
And guess what, most of the auto
manufacturers are the trouble as
well.

17:20.320 --> 17:24.240
I think who's not in trouble,
GM's not in trouble, right?

17:24.240 --> 17:26.920
Is GM now poised to buy
Chrysler?

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Is it's crazy?

17:27.920 --> 17:30.920
What a nutty ass world.

17:31.000 --> 17:36.920
By the way, last night I finally
saw the, because I had it on Sky
Digital, I saw the top

17:36.920 --> 17:42.200
gear episode, man, these guys,
you know, the new season of top
gear, this is only the

17:42.200 --> 17:43.200
second episode.

17:43.200 --> 17:45.680
I'm a big fan of video
productions.

17:45.680 --> 17:49.520
And when we do, uh, Mary Clare
dot podshow dot com, we do the
Mary Clare, the

17:49.520 --> 17:50.520
mass Ted show.

17:50.520 --> 17:52.800
I mean, I am making female porn.

17:52.800 --> 17:53.800
I mean, I'm not doing it.

17:53.800 --> 17:57.120
The team is, but that's what I'm
looking for, I'm looking for
female porn.

17:57.120 --> 18:04.080
Look here, completely, the male
version of non-sexual porn,
automotive porn.

18:04.080 --> 18:11.520
They make these, these clips,
these, these packages of video
about the cars, they are so

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sexy.

18:12.520 --> 18:13.520
They're so well done.

18:13.520 --> 18:17.520
I can't wait until the media
room is done to have the
surround sound and the really,

18:17.520 --> 18:20.000
really big screen because that
shit is just awesome.

18:20.000 --> 18:26.960
And indeed, they built a space
shuttle out of a, a robin, a
reliant robin, which is

18:26.960 --> 18:28.280
one of those three wheel
jobbies.

18:28.280 --> 18:31.960
And I have to say, the whole
launch and everything, it looked
pretty damn good.

18:31.960 --> 18:37.440
You know, the, the main booster
rocket never, jettisoned from,
never jettisoned from the

18:37.440 --> 18:40.920
reliant itself, uh, but it
looked like a thing was flying,
man.

18:40.920 --> 18:45.280
And I have a, uh, I really think
that they probably could have
glided that thing down to earth

18:45.280 --> 18:50.240
reasonably well, but it never
jettisoned from, uh, or the, the
main fuel tank never jettisoned.

18:50.240 --> 18:54.240
And so it just kind of crashed
in a huge ball of flame and
smoke, but what an amazing

18:54.240 --> 18:55.240
show.

18:55.240 --> 19:03.560
And you know what, as we say in,
in video production, the money
was definitely on the screen.

19:03.560 --> 19:04.560
Get I at him.

19:04.560 --> 19:05.560
Guess what?

19:05.560 --> 19:09.400
Phil Walker calling in from
Australia and I live in
Canberra, would you believe?

19:09.400 --> 19:10.400
Ah, camera.

19:10.400 --> 19:11.400
Of course.

19:11.400 --> 19:12.240
This is, you know, so I did that
interview.

19:12.240 --> 19:16.560
What two weeks ago, where is the
publication of the interview
about podcasting that I did

19:16.560 --> 19:19.440
with the, uh, with the reporter
from the Canberra Times?

19:19.440 --> 19:24.360
So you'll reference to the
Canberra Times was, uh, very
interesting and brought home
that,

19:24.360 --> 19:28.760
so even though you're a global
podcast, it can still, uh, right
back down to our little

19:28.760 --> 19:29.760
town.

19:29.760 --> 19:31.640
Let me tell you a little bit
about Canberra, mate.

19:31.640 --> 19:36.160
It's, uh, a small city, even
though it's the capital of
Australia, about 300,000.

19:36.160 --> 19:40.480
But I would say that, um, we are
a very IT literate community,
uh, even though we're

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a small place and, uh, away
from, uh, the main cities of,
uh, Sydney and Melbourne.

19:45.880 --> 19:49.880
So yeah, we do probably know a
little bit of our IT, and I
suspect you've probably got

19:49.880 --> 19:53.160
a lot of, uh, the people who
listen to podcasts in this small
community.

19:53.160 --> 19:54.560
Yeah, I got to say something.

19:54.560 --> 20:00.880
I'm just sitting here realizing
how cool this is to have real,
um, audience interaction

20:00.880 --> 20:06.120
or as they say an advertising
consumer engagement with
Australia.

20:06.120 --> 20:13.720
You know, there's, you hear, um,
lots of radio guys and, uh,
mainstream radio, mainstream

20:13.720 --> 20:17.400
media in general, like, well,
you know, we get comments from
Australia, but do you actually

20:17.400 --> 20:19.920
have a fucking conversation with
people from Australia?

20:19.920 --> 20:20.920
No.

20:21.920 --> 20:22.600
I love it.

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Uh, in regard to the camp of
times, uh, it's a small town
paper, really.

20:27.000 --> 20:32.920
Um, yeah, small circulation
compared to the big rags, not
good, not bad, but, uh,

20:32.920 --> 20:36.280
probably just, um, just a small
town newspaper.

20:36.920 --> 20:41.680
Um, I actually take a bit of a
positive out of the, the call
you got from, uh, or the

20:41.680 --> 20:45.640
email you got from, uh, from the
camp of times and that they've
come to you, mate, rather

20:45.640 --> 20:47.720
any other so-called podfathers
out there.

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You are the podf...

20:48.440 --> 20:48.920
Yeah.

20:48.920 --> 20:49.920
You know, holler.

20:49.920 --> 20:50.920
Father.

20:50.920 --> 20:51.920
Yeah.

20:51.920 --> 20:57.280
I saw, um, well, we all know
Ricky Jervais stole the title,
and I saw Cameron from, uh, the

20:57.280 --> 21:03.720
podcast network, also with, uh,
with, you know, some headline
like the true podfathers.

21:03.720 --> 21:04.720
That's fine.

21:04.720 --> 21:05.720
Y'all can be podfathers.

21:06.720 --> 21:07.720
I'm happy to share.

21:07.720 --> 21:12.320
The person is driving this
podcast business as far as I can
tell, and, uh, they've

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come to you because they
recognize that.

21:14.000 --> 21:19.320
So, uh, even though we only have
a small distribution, it might
be worth, um, yeah,

21:19.320 --> 21:23.320
really, uh, giving them the, the
credit for, uh, at least, uh,
come into the right source

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of information.

21:24.320 --> 21:26.320
Mate, I've said it once.

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I'll say it again.

21:27.320 --> 21:32.320
If you get a chance, uh, check
out Nick Walker on the podcast
music network, my 20-year-old

21:32.320 --> 21:37.320
son out there trying to make a
living in the music world, uh,
Nick Walker, podsafe,

21:37.320 --> 21:40.320
music network, give him a spin
and now you'll love it.

21:40.320 --> 21:41.320
Take care from a hot Australia.

21:41.320 --> 21:44.320
I hope everything's okay out
there, mate, and, uh, rock on.

21:44.320 --> 21:45.320
Yeah.

21:45.320 --> 21:46.320
Bye.

21:46.320 --> 21:47.320
Bye, Phil.

21:47.320 --> 21:52.320
Uh, this comment, uh, two or
three times, and I've basically
been holding onto it.

21:52.320 --> 21:59.320
Because, uh, I listened to, uh,
Nick songs, and honestly, they
didn't do much for me.

21:59.320 --> 22:02.320
And I felt really bad, you know,
because he kept sending the same
message.

22:02.320 --> 22:06.320
And I really wanted to play the
comment, but I didn't want to
like, you know, leave off the,

22:06.320 --> 22:07.320
play my son bit.

22:07.320 --> 22:09.320
And it's cool that he's
promoting his son.

22:09.320 --> 22:12.320
And there's son that has stuff
up on the podsafe music network.

22:12.320 --> 22:16.320
But honestly, I really spend a
lot of, I pay a lot of attention
to one

22:16.320 --> 22:19.320
I'm playing on, uh, on the show.

22:19.320 --> 22:21.320
And I just don't know if this
fit.

22:21.320 --> 22:26.320
And so today is a perfect day
since everything's kind of slow
anyway.

22:26.320 --> 22:29.320
And those of you on serious
satellite can play you out with
the song.

22:29.320 --> 22:31.320
And I'll come back for those of
you on the podcast.

22:31.320 --> 22:33.320
Because of course, as I thought
about it, I'm like,

22:33.320 --> 22:35.320
what makes no fucking
difference.

22:35.320 --> 22:38.320
If no one else likes the song,
just fast forward.

22:38.320 --> 22:39.320
I know.

22:39.320 --> 22:42.320
There he is, Nick Walker.

22:42.320 --> 22:43.320
Won't fall back in love.

22:43.320 --> 22:45.320
I'd love to hear what you think
about it.

22:45.320 --> 22:47.320
I'd love to hear what you think
about it.

22:47.320 --> 22:49.320
I'd love to hear what you think
about it.

22:49.320 --> 22:51.320
I'd love to hear what you think
about it.

22:51.320 --> 25:43.750
[ Music ]

25:45.320 --> 25:49.320
I won't walk back in love

25:49.320 --> 25:55.320
You can find a link to page on
the pod safe music network at
dailysourceco.com

25:55.320 --> 25:59.320
I was just looking through
Napster

25:59.320 --> 26:03.320
I have to say I like Napster as
a service because it's all you
can drink

26:03.320 --> 26:07.320
Basically I don't know what I
pay it was like nine bucks a
month or something

26:07.320 --> 26:11.320
And you can only play stuff when
you're connected online and
through Windows Media Player

26:11.320 --> 26:16.320
And you can only play stuff when
you're connected to the camera

26:16.320 --> 26:19.320
Because I want to play some EMI
music for you

26:19.320 --> 26:24.320
I think you guys who are working
at EMI, they got no time right
now to mess around with my
customers

26:24.320 --> 26:26.320
All right, ADV, how are you?

26:26.320 --> 26:30.320
And you're going to be so
jealous from you here that I've
got on the red couch this week

26:30.320 --> 26:34.320
Another miss Rachel Fuller,
she's from in the attic fan

26:34.320 --> 26:37.320
She's talking about all manner
of things you won't hear
anywhere else

26:37.320 --> 26:40.320
I know about how sarcastic that
woman can be

26:40.320 --> 26:43.320
And believe me, I have never
heard sarcasm like it

26:43.320 --> 26:45.320
Then you need to get yourself to
who's on it

26:45.320 --> 26:49.320
Don't beat the pod show, don't
come to Rachel's buildings

26:49.320 --> 26:51.320
Y'all is a, that's OJ calling OJ
Borge

26:51.320 --> 26:53.320
Who's on it?

26:53.320 --> 26:55.320
BTpodshow.com

26:55.320 --> 26:56.320
Rachel Fuller on the show

26:56.320 --> 26:58.320
Definitely take a look at this
one

26:58.320 --> 27:00.320
Rachel of course is the star of
in the attic

27:00.320 --> 27:03.320
Another fantastic show that
we're running all over the world

27:03.320 --> 27:05.320
But of course it's a UK show

27:05.320 --> 27:07.320
In the attic.btpodshow.com

27:07.320 --> 27:09.320
Or in the attic.podshow.com

27:09.320 --> 27:11.320
Rachel and her boyfriend Pete
Townsend

27:11.320 --> 27:15.320
And in this particular show, OJ
does a,

27:15.320 --> 27:17.320
Rachel's a singer as well

27:17.320 --> 27:19.320
I'm totally in love with her
voice and with her songs

27:19.320 --> 27:23.320
And he does a segment called,
what is it?

27:23.320 --> 27:25.320
You or the who?

27:25.320 --> 27:32.320
And so he, he sights lyrics and
then Rachel has to guess

27:32.320 --> 27:35.320
Whether it's one of her songs or
whether it's one of the who's
songs

27:35.320 --> 27:36.320
Now you should definitely check
that out

27:36.320 --> 27:38.320
Who's on it.btpodshow.com

27:38.320 --> 27:40.320
So David Bowie did something
brilliant

27:40.320 --> 27:44.320
And I'm gonna say this was
probably 10 years ago

27:44.320 --> 27:47.320
He put together a bond

27:47.320 --> 27:49.320
What's a financial instrument

27:49.320 --> 27:52.320
For all of his future revenue

27:52.320 --> 27:58.320
From publishing of his, from
publishing of his music catalog

27:58.320 --> 28:01.320
And of course the publishing is
handled by EMI

28:01.320 --> 28:04.320
I believe at the time he
pocketed 50 million

28:04.320 --> 28:06.320
Dollars

28:06.320 --> 28:09.320
And of course he didn't, all
the, all the residuals that come
in

28:09.320 --> 28:11.320
Don't go to him, they go back
into the fund

28:11.320 --> 28:13.320
And people get repaid, etc

28:13.320 --> 28:18.320
And as you know, big fans of
Bowie here

28:18.320 --> 28:20.320
Really big fans

28:20.320 --> 28:24.320
And a shit Patricia slept with
him once

28:24.320 --> 28:27.320
Or twice, I don't know, she
hasn't really told me for sure

28:27.320 --> 28:29.320
But it's interesting that

28:29.320 --> 28:32.320
The first 245s I ever bought in
my entire life

28:32.320 --> 28:34.320
The first one was

28:34.320 --> 28:37.320
Rubber band man by the Detroit
spinners

28:37.320 --> 28:40.320
The Detroit spinners, yeah,
Rubber band man

28:40.320 --> 28:44.320
And the second one was this song
from the album Low

28:44.320 --> 28:45.320
Sound and Vision

28:45.320 --> 28:49.320
Which is just a fantastic track,
particularly the way it kicks
off

28:49.320 --> 28:54.320
A little bit of music history
for 80 on the day

28:54.320 --> 28:56.320
To source code

29:00.320 --> 29:03.320
Whatever you do, don't rip it
out of this podcast

29:03.320 --> 29:06.320
We'll both go to jail

29:08.750 --> 31:43.750
[ Music ]

31:45.320 --> 31:51.880
Yeah, why don't you hop on over
to iTunes or Napster or whatever
if you have a music service

31:51.880 --> 31:56.760
the Yahoo Music Service by a
track from David Bowie, please
so that you know when those guys

31:56.760 --> 32:00.280
are getting ready to sue me for
playing sound and vision I could
say well why did you

32:00.280 --> 32:06.840
see if we sold anything
dickheads? It's so confusing so
it says it's from the album low
which

32:06.840 --> 32:12.280
is correct when it says released
1977 this single is from 1975 I
know because somewhere I still

32:12.280 --> 32:20.120
have it and it says 1975 right
there 22 years ago oh my
goodness still love that shit
love what

32:20.120 --> 32:27.800
he's doing uh so you know a free
Trinity update today uh still
working on wrapping my head

32:27.800 --> 32:33.880
or you know what I yesterday I
actually got into the vibe of
you know what I think I want to
uh

32:33.880 --> 32:40.040
I think I I think I want to go
on part of this journey I just
suddenly got excited about it
and I

32:40.040 --> 32:46.840
wouldn't mind to hit in a couple
of states so uh still working on
par abroad the Palo Alto podcast

32:46.840 --> 32:52.600
are freaked out after she heard
what I said yesterday oh man and
everyone keep keep keep keep

32:52.600 --> 32:57.240
you cool keep you head on she's
gonna roll everyone will be able
to participate I'm just trying

32:57.240 --> 33:05.160
to figure out how and uh I think
we uh we actually might have a
real sponsor for this thing so

33:05.720 --> 33:11.000
as I said you know I'm maybe
looking to compensate some
people if they're going above
and beyond and

33:11.000 --> 33:16.280
it's still gonna be uh a real oh
it's gonna be user generated
project there you go that's the
hook

33:17.640 --> 33:19.880
and uh let me see

33:23.720 --> 33:30.920
so I got a email from Oscar who
says yes I'd like to apply for
an account on the N800 or should
I say

33:30.920 --> 33:35.640
I wish I could come into your
ports yes yes Oscar I will allow
you access to my ports

33:38.520 --> 33:44.280
so I've spoken to my contact at
Nokia Nokia and we're gonna get
that set up so we're gonna get
set up

33:44.280 --> 33:50.440
is an N800 with the navigation
in place uh with the the world
map of course we intend to see

33:50.440 --> 33:56.120
Trinity go all the way around
the globe right and I think what
I'll do is I'll set it up in the

33:56.120 --> 34:01.320
condo and in San Francisco just
have Luke send it over there so
we'll have a dedicated IP
address it'll

34:01.320 --> 34:07.880
just you know sit there all day
and then we'll just allow people
in there's a couple of the
comments

34:07.880 --> 34:12.360
or received which sounded like a
real administrative nightmare
saying well you could set it up
so that

34:12.360 --> 34:18.440
there could be a couple hours
per program or per day but I'm
thinking you know it's like
everyone's

34:18.440 --> 34:23.640
gonna have scripts in there and
it's gonna be a real mess and I
guess I'd have to set up user
accounts

34:23.640 --> 34:29.480
and you know now I'm gonna have
to figure out how to
administrate the N800 as a as a
Linux server

34:30.280 --> 34:35.160
that may just be going you know
at the end of the day it's you
know a lot of trust here you
come in

34:35.160 --> 34:40.440
you try your test just grips you
look at it on VNC see if it
works and then you clean your

34:40.440 --> 34:45.800
shit up and then the next guy
should come in I guess or maybe
we maybe I should just create

34:45.800 --> 34:51.400
accounts I guess I can do that
maybe I'll just create accounts
so that each individual can

34:51.400 --> 34:57.800
can try themselves stuff to
ponder on the plane ride
tomorrow for sure okay I got
another

34:57.800 --> 35:02.280
pod save song for you gonna play
out with I just could not resist
playing the song because well

35:02.280 --> 35:10.120
the lyrics say it all it's the
modest lads I gotta trust a
little bit of love for you baby

35:11.250 --> 37:16.250
[ Music ]

37:19.720 --> 37:28.440
the lyrics are catchy right I've
got a thousand out of love the
modest lads

37:28.440 --> 37:34.360
Stranger load of love wrapping
up the Charlie for another show
from the curry man or an

37:34.360 --> 37:41.160
Adam's attic and tomorrow no
show tomorrow hey I'm sorry to
disappoint you but I'm just
going to be

37:41.160 --> 37:47.240
traveling a virgin Atlantic is
even for some reason the the
pickup is half an hour earlier
so

37:47.240 --> 37:50.680
I'm gonna pick me up at eight
o'clock and just in the way I
already had to do all kinds of
stuff for

37:50.680 --> 37:56.200
serious satellite to work ahead
it and so you just have to wait
until when is the night of
course

37:56.280 --> 38:01.240
because I will do that for you
I'll stay up so I arrived the
afternoon I go straight in it

38:01.240 --> 38:07.560
you know I dropped my shit off
at the condo I'll walk to the
office do the shuffle at the
office

38:08.440 --> 38:14.600
and then I'll come home I'll
have some need and and I'll do
the show for Thursday Wednesday
night

38:14.600 --> 38:21.080
which I know all of you
appreciate when I do that so
until then daily source code dot
com is where you can

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