WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.000 This podcast is brought to you by Poncho and GoGay. 00:05.000 --> 00:10.000 This show will give you a special code to get great discounts at GoDaddy.com. 00:10.000 --> 00:12.000 Got something to say? 00:12.000 --> 00:15.000 Log it with your frequent log from GoDaddy. 00:20.000 --> 00:22.000 Hey Adam, I think I know where the problem is 00:22.000 --> 00:25.000 with thinking that the Trinity Project is a green project. 00:25.000 --> 00:27.000 You said the car was baby poop color. 00:28.000 --> 00:30.000 You ever fed a baby cream spinach? 00:30.000 --> 00:31.000 Uh-huh! 00:31.000 --> 00:35.000 Now all of the DSC-554. 00:35.000 --> 00:39.000 In a world where TV networks, movie studios and record labels 00:39.000 --> 00:42.000 still think they can govern what you see in here. 00:42.000 --> 00:46.000 One man has the power to return control of entertainment to the masses 00:46.000 --> 00:51.000 and make big media corporations wet their tiny little pants. 00:51.000 --> 00:55.000 From Pod Show, home of the world's most dangerous new content 00:55.000 --> 01:00.000 comes the daily source code with Adam Curry. 01:01.250 --> 05:21.000 [ Music ] 05:21.000 --> 05:25.000 The world's most dangerous new content comes the daily source code. 05:25.000 --> 05:27.000 The world's most dangerous new content comes the daily source code. 05:27.000 --> 05:34.680 Pete Hopkins, become from the pod safe music network like you didn't know that because you've heard it before on this show. 05:34.680 --> 05:41.400 I love that song. Hey, everybody. How you doing? It is daily source code episode five five four coming to you. 05:41.400 --> 05:49.240 Once again from the Curry condo and no cow, that is nor the California for those of you not a no tomorrow triple five. 05:49.240 --> 05:54.520 That should be kind of interesting. Open. I get some openers for that. I just got back from I'm sorry. 05:54.520 --> 06:07.800 I'm over modulating all over the place tonight. I just got back from from the city from the theater. I know less and I have quite a story to tell about my evening out an evening of culture for the pod boy. 06:11.080 --> 06:18.760 Man, I'm I'm you know what I want I want I want to tell you exactly what I did and why I'm so excited and I just had a great night out and 06:19.400 --> 06:29.480 And you definitely want to hear about this because it's one of those weird connections that only through pod casting is this all come about and it's it's just it's messing with my head. 06:30.520 --> 06:33.320 But almost I can do I hear music somewhere. 06:35.400 --> 06:37.480 Uh, that's kind of interesting. 06:38.920 --> 06:39.720 Hmm. 06:41.320 --> 06:46.840 I'm not quite sure where it's coming from. Did you hear that? I swear to God I could hear music running in the background. 06:46.920 --> 06:50.120 Anyway, uh, sorry about that little distracted. 06:51.480 --> 06:57.160 Here's uh, this is uh, this relates to my evening. This first comment. Check it out. 06:57.160 --> 07:04.200 Hi Adam. It's Ralph. I forgot here. Uh, I haven't spoken to you in an quite a while on the where you have played one through message from me in the past. 07:04.840 --> 07:11.240 I was really interested to listen to you know some of your recent episodes because obviously you're now playing 07:12.200 --> 07:18.040 Non-pod safe music and I remember way because I've been listening to for ages way back 07:18.600 --> 07:25.080 When you would you used to play quite a lot of non-pod safe music and then I vow that you never would do it again 07:25.320 --> 07:31.960 So I'm really curious to know what you're thinking is behind playing a lot of these classic tunes. Yes, they're classic tunes and yes 07:31.960 --> 07:40.040 I'm sure the you playing them will definitely help their sales. I kind of imagine we do otherwise it seems to me quite logical 07:40.520 --> 07:46.440 But aren't you opening yourself up to a realistic friend of getting sued by somebody 07:47.160 --> 07:52.120 for playing music that's said non-pod safe or is that something you thought of when you're prepared to take that chance? 07:52.120 --> 07:57.640 Or do you actually want them to sue you? Do you get something that needs to to be fleshed out in the courts? 07:58.040 --> 08:02.440 I'm just really curious to understand some of you thinking because I'm sure you must have thought long and hard about 08:02.920 --> 08:08.520 Going back to playing non-pod safe music again after being quite in fatigue about not doing it any longer. 08:08.520 --> 08:15.320 Sometime ago anyway, I love the show as I think I've made a mission before still remain a folder all the best. All right 08:15.320 --> 08:24.440 So thank you very timely with that comment and obviously you've heard me play a couple of non-pod safe tunes over the past a few weeks 08:25.080 --> 08:27.080 There's a new segment in the show 08:27.960 --> 08:32.840 Another track from Adam's first gen iPod which can be a non-pod safe song 08:33.320 --> 08:37.320 Let me start off by saying I am quite aware that I'm breaking 08:38.600 --> 08:42.760 The rules or probably even more accurate to say I'm breaking the law 08:43.560 --> 08:46.200 But of course I break the law in many 08:48.520 --> 08:50.520 Hold on 08:50.520 --> 08:53.880 There we go. Ah fucking noise get you can't hear half of what I'm doing 08:54.600 --> 08:57.880 I know I'm breaking the law. I've broken the law while speeding 08:58.680 --> 09:02.600 These aren't all comparable but I'm very aware what's right and what's wrong 09:02.600 --> 09:08.200 But here's the problem and by the way you'll probably only hear me playing non-pod safe music 09:08.600 --> 09:10.600 That is from my past and 09:10.600 --> 09:14.520 I think just about every single time that I've played and just an awesome song 09:15.560 --> 09:19.240 The reason why is because I can't help myself I it's 09:20.440 --> 09:21.800 Music 09:21.800 --> 09:25.240 All music that I know in from my entire career my life 09:25.960 --> 09:30.600 It's a part of me. It's a part of my DNA and I have to say it's what I do 09:31.080 --> 09:33.080 What I do is I 09:33.080 --> 09:40.520 Always been someone who's shared music with others millions millions of others whether it was on the radio on MTV 09:41.080 --> 09:46.840 And particularly on the radio I have to say I'm a disk jockey. I'm a disk jockey because I have all the launch well 09:46.840 --> 09:48.840 I album sushi 09:53.640 --> 09:58.600 A disk jockey is something it's it's an art form that has been dead for probably 09:59.240 --> 10:01.560 I'm gonna say almost 20 years 10:02.520 --> 10:08.600 Hmm maybe a little less, but it's really been dead for the past 10 and let me try and explain 10:09.160 --> 10:16.440 All these music services that that are out there and there's a ton of music services and you know like iTunes 10:17.240 --> 10:19.240 Where you can create mixes 10:19.240 --> 10:24.760 There's a Napster which I like very much which I subscribe to there's the Yahoo music engine 10:24.760 --> 10:25.960 There's 10:25.960 --> 10:28.360 Rhapsody you name it it's out there and 10:29.320 --> 10:30.840 And 10:30.840 --> 10:32.840 The problem is 10:33.080 --> 10:37.080 Is that there's what are these services have a million and a half songs in their entire catalog? 10:37.080 --> 10:41.160 Which isn't not too bad, obviously, but discovery of songs 10:42.040 --> 10:44.600 Is happening through machines and this is 10:45.160 --> 10:48.520 Yeah, it's part of a way to help people discover new music 10:49.160 --> 10:55.240 But it's definitely not the best or most effective way what we saw with the original Napster 10:55.720 --> 11:00.280 Was oh my gosh, you know now we're really sharing songs people were ripping their CDs 11:00.920 --> 11:02.920 Which they bought presumably and 11:03.160 --> 11:08.360 They were putting the MP3s online and you could go in and I think that was one of the biggest features of Napster 11:08.360 --> 11:13.320 Is you could go into someone's shared folder and see what else they had because if you'd like this 11:13.560 --> 11:17.960 You know the music you were finding from this person which presumably you searched for in the first place 11:18.280 --> 11:23.560 And you'd probably like the other things and you know that was really one of the first social media networks in my opinion 11:24.520 --> 11:33.080 So that works extremely well when you as just a fan of music can tell your buddies your friends check this shit out 11:33.640 --> 11:37.480 And do we have proof that that is true? Yes, multiple 11:39.080 --> 11:46.840 Multiple examples how about my space just in general? I mean my space was a place where you you slapped up a player of your band's music 11:46.840 --> 11:53.080 And it was embeddable genius by the way so that other people could then put your song on there my space page 11:53.720 --> 11:56.360 Podcasting exactly the same now 11:56.760 --> 12:01.480 I have to say that pod save music sprouted from a little different background 12:02.040 --> 12:06.920 It was Ron blew in myself getting together and saying look here's this podcasting 12:07.880 --> 12:11.400 And it's working very well with speech and it's very effective for that 12:12.520 --> 12:15.560 But there's just something missing from the equation and 12:16.600 --> 12:21.560 Ron's a musician. I'm a broadcaster. Sorry. I'm a disco jockey. I'll just say it 12:22.200 --> 12:24.200 And 12:24.200 --> 12:33.160 I desperately want to play songs in music and I want to share that with my buddies and Ron says well, I want to get paid and after a lot of research 12:34.040 --> 12:39.160 We came up with the idea for the pod sake music license now part of the another reason 12:40.680 --> 12:47.160 For getting this together is you know, I knew certainly the time when podcasting was just cranking up in its 12:47.960 --> 12:50.760 Current incarnation of audio on the internet 12:51.640 --> 12:53.640 I knew that if we were playing 12:57.000 --> 12:59.000 Licensed music 12:59.000 --> 13:03.000 Particularly at that juncture in time. I knew that there was a very high likelihood 13:04.200 --> 13:10.040 That one of us probably me would it be singled out and that we would branded pirates and 13:10.440 --> 13:13.560 That podcasting would really in the media's eye 13:14.120 --> 13:19.880 Be seen as a bunch of pirate radio stations on the internet now we have far surpassed that point 13:20.200 --> 13:25.480 We've gotten to the point where and this is the hypocrisy of it all and I love following the money 13:25.480 --> 13:27.560 If you want to know what's happening you just got to look at the money 13:27.560 --> 13:29.800 There are only four big record labels now 13:30.360 --> 13:37.640 All the independence pretty much get it they understand that the way to move music the way to market it the way to package it is to let people 13:38.040 --> 13:44.440 Share it with their friends and podcasters sometimes have a shitload of friends who listen very intensely to their shows 13:45.720 --> 13:46.920 And 13:46.920 --> 13:53.400 in podcasting we've proven time and time again that you do sell music if you if a song is played on a podcast 13:57.880 --> 13:59.880 The hypocrisy of the four majors 14:01.240 --> 14:06.920 Is that whenever they've got something to promote that benefits their agenda which means new current music 14:06.920 --> 14:14.200 Because that's really all that they focus on when it comes to record sales the record sales divisions not the music licensing, but the record sales divisions 14:14.280 --> 14:16.280 Um 14:16.280 --> 14:21.960 They're very happy to say hey man go ahead go ahead and play it don't worry about it. You won't get in trouble. I'll make sure I'll get you covered 14:23.480 --> 14:25.480 Yeah, so 14:25.720 --> 14:32.440 You know, obviously they understand the value as well, but no one can quite get past the lawyers 14:33.560 --> 14:38.840 Now the music that I from time to time will play and I and again I just can't help myself 14:39.320 --> 14:48.120 I do because it's it's my art. It's my art form to let you know how I'm feeling as it relates to a story or maybe something that's going on in the world 14:48.120 --> 14:55.720 Or maybe just the weather or whatever it is and I believe that it's a real way to communicate and 14:56.120 --> 15:02.520 Being able to choose the music that I want to play for you regardless of what it is is is 15:03.400 --> 15:06.760 Virtually Nirvana it is it is what I love to do 15:07.560 --> 15:13.160 Now I realize that pure music shows very very hard to maintain an audience 15:13.960 --> 15:19.160 In podcasting. That's why I only play one or two songs throughout the entire show also I got shit to say 15:20.040 --> 15:22.680 And it also makes it that much more special you know 15:23.080 --> 15:26.680 I focus a lot of attention on the songs that I play. It's not just really nearly 15:27.240 --> 15:31.160 You know, I really think about this stuff and I get a shit load of submissions 15:33.560 --> 15:35.160 So 15:35.240 --> 15:39.160 I just can't help myself and I think it's really important that 15:40.600 --> 15:47.240 Maybe I just take that role upon myself. I want to make sure that all this great music which is now sitting in huge archives 15:47.560 --> 15:53.160 Digital archives not even in stores stores almost no longer exist we can go and buy this music 15:53.720 --> 15:59.400 There's almost no way to discover all the great great songs that I grew up with and 15:59.880 --> 16:05.480 And the people that I know I love sharing those stories and it's no different from from what's happening now 16:05.480 --> 16:11.640 It's exactly the same. You know will we be talking about a Matthew evil and a slow and 16:12.520 --> 16:15.080 Carmen Tyler will we talking about these people 16:15.640 --> 16:20.120 Ten years now of course you will and podcasts. There's will have the same stories that I have now about 16:20.680 --> 16:24.440 You know aerosmith and and Von Jovi and the Rolling Stones 16:25.720 --> 16:28.520 And the kings even god. I'm dating myself. Okay 16:30.040 --> 16:33.000 So it's important and it's important that people who 16:33.800 --> 16:36.600 Listen to the daily source code get some kind of education 16:36.600 --> 16:41.320 I mean I'm talking so much shit anyway. Let me give you an example here's an email that I received from Cassandra 16:41.320 --> 16:46.440 Hey Adam with your newfound willingness to risk playing non-pod save music on occasion why not 16:46.840 --> 16:49.320 Hit up yon the food bar Friday hit test 16:50.040 --> 16:57.640 Well, yes, and I have had conversations with with representatives from all of the dig four labels about doing exactly that 16:57.800 --> 16:59.800 Same thing came back they love it 16:59.800 --> 17:03.000 Fantastic we're not gonna make any ways, but of course we're not gonna 17:03.480 --> 17:05.800 Publicly allow and you say that will allow you to do that 17:07.800 --> 17:09.960 Cassandra goes on saying I missed the hit test so much 17:10.360 --> 17:13.800 That thing was my favorite part of the show back in the summer of 2005 17:13.800 --> 17:19.960 I listened to the source code loud as hell on my stereo in my room while I played PC games and every time 17:20.200 --> 17:22.920 There was a new hit test. It just got louder now 17:22.920 --> 17:25.960 I don't actually know any of the music on the hit test 17:26.280 --> 17:32.920 I was born in 1986 so I was a bit young for the 80s music, but I always loved to hear the hit test because it's just so incredibly 17:32.920 --> 17:36.760 Awesome and fun every time and I learned something about music past 17:37.720 --> 17:43.320 And a few times I went to go buy one of the songs and iTunes bingo there you go the circle 17:43.880 --> 17:46.920 It's complete that is exactly what I'm talking about 17:48.680 --> 17:54.840 I hope you understand what I'm saying now I'm not giving up my support for pod save music because it doesn't matter to me 17:55.560 --> 17:58.280 It's music and I love it and I love playing new music 17:58.840 --> 18:03.000 I think the only safe thing to do here is just stay away from the new stuff that 18:03.880 --> 18:09.240 The record companies are trying to sell I get it I understand that and quite frankly you've got your own ecosystem for that 18:09.640 --> 18:15.160 And I'm not interested really although there are some songs that I hear on the radio that I'd love to play to let me tell you 18:16.760 --> 18:22.200 There's still some great music being made just this mainstream doesn't mean it's crap and I'm here to service you 18:23.160 --> 18:28.440 Hey, you know what that's the ultimate answer. It's my job to service you to entertain you 18:29.320 --> 18:31.960 And if that means going to jail so be it 18:32.760 --> 18:37.320 Okay, now now that what happened this evening? Oh, man, well how much time do I have six minutes? 18:37.320 --> 18:40.760 Okay, yeah, I can I can get it in for the people listening on serious satellite radio 18:41.640 --> 18:45.640 Beginning of the month I received this comment. I'm just gonna replay it for you because 18:46.120 --> 18:49.080 Well, it's it's the beginning of a very interesting story 18:50.040 --> 18:58.840 Hi Adam it's Eric Bergen. You might remember my name. I'm the host of green room radio and arts and entertainment podcast and in fact 18:58.840 --> 19:01.800 We were one of the first podcasts to feature a theme song by Jeff Smith 19:02.680 --> 19:05.080 Anyway, here's why I'm sending in this audio comment 19:05.080 --> 19:09.480 I was very involved in the podcasting world almost since the beginning in fact 19:09.480 --> 19:15.960 That was one of your first listeners and I was a dedicated listener. I listened every single day 19:16.200 --> 19:19.480 In August 19:19.480 --> 19:22.840 I made the decision to stop listening 19:23.400 --> 19:29.960 This was in about early to mid August and the decision came out of the fact that my other life which was that of an actor 19:30.840 --> 19:36.360 Actually started picking up steam and I started getting work and I was in rehearsals all day and doing shows at night 19:36.360 --> 19:41.560 And I just didn't have time for podcasting anymore. I haven't done an episode of my own podcasts since May 19:41.960 --> 19:44.440 Don't worry we're coming back next week, but I just 19:45.320 --> 19:47.320 I just need to know 19:48.200 --> 19:52.040 I need a little update because I want to rejoin the daily source code listening experience 19:52.040 --> 19:55.960 But I need to know what's going on. I can't just join the show and not know what's going on 19:56.360 --> 20:03.960 Did you move it sounded like you moved houses? What's this free Trinity thing? I need if you could just give me or maybe one of your listeners 20:03.960 --> 20:06.760 Could give me just a three minute update of 20:07.080 --> 20:14.200 Everything I need to know that's been happening in the daily source code world since I guess mid August the last time I checked in 20:14.600 --> 20:18.440 August the pod show website had just gone public 20:19.400 --> 20:24.440 But I think that's that was really the biggest thing that was going on then so if you could just just let me know 20:24.440 --> 20:29.160 Just catch me up on everything and I'm sorry to ask you I just I want to rejoin 20:29.160 --> 20:32.280 But I can't just rejoin and not know what's going on. It's like trying to 20:33.080 --> 20:34.040 Join 20:34.040 --> 20:37.240 24 in the middle of the season. You don't know what the hell's going on 20:38.760 --> 20:40.760 Also next time you're in San Francisco 20:41.160 --> 20:50.440 I'm here for a while doing a little show called jersey boys playing at the current theater and and I know Adam that you sort of are a jersey boy because you you live there 20:52.120 --> 20:52.920 Now 20:52.920 --> 20:56.440 The show isn't about you the show is actually about Frankie Valley in the four seasons 20:56.440 --> 21:01.160 But I'd love for you to come we're playing at the current theater right on Gary Street. It's right near pod show HQ 21:01.400 --> 21:03.960 So why don't you come on down? I'll pay for your ticket. I promise 21:05.240 --> 21:07.400 Okay, that's all just someone give me an update. Please 21:08.040 --> 21:13.720 All right, so Eric sends that comment in and I have to say hilarity ensued because it was pretty funny and you know 21:13.720 --> 21:17.080 There were some updates that came in which I'm not gonna play for you now, but it was good 21:17.800 --> 21:20.040 So you know you you heard there that he 21:20.760 --> 21:25.480 Was host of the green green room radio. It's green room radio. I think yeah green room radio podcast 21:27.480 --> 21:31.320 And that he's an actor. Okay, so and remember this is 21:32.680 --> 21:36.760 What is this this is a February fifth of February six something like that when this came in 21:36.760 --> 21:42.520 Amazing because still find it and and so he's you know, he's working this show 21:43.160 --> 21:47.240 Jersey boys so I actually hear about this show. You know, it's a big Broadway smash 21:47.960 --> 21:53.560 It's about the life and times of Frankie Valley and the four seasons. I'm like okay, you know, this is great 21:53.560 --> 21:59.720 So I was supposed to go last Tuesday as you know my trip was delayed. I still haven't been able to tell you why 21:59.720 --> 22:02.840 But that's also forthcoming maybe by food bar for lucky and 22:03.800 --> 22:08.600 And I completely forget about about the tickets so he sends me an email. He says, hey, I don't 22:08.600 --> 22:12.760 I heard on the show that you know that you're delayed your your trip has been delayed 22:12.760 --> 22:18.120 Shall I move it till next week? I'm like, oh fuck man. I'm so sorry really apologize. Thanks for for checking in with the yes 22:18.120 --> 22:23.480 I'd love to so tickets were a one ticket was ready for me this evening at the current theater 22:25.480 --> 22:29.480 Folgers with splendor. I love it. It's a fantastic combination 22:29.560 --> 22:36.760 So I haven't been to the theater in in a while. It's nice theater by the way the current so 22:37.800 --> 22:43.320 You know after a while not not not after work work never ends, but around seven I get picked up because I know it should be there 22:43.320 --> 22:49.160 We'll call by seven thirty because pretty busy. I'm telling you pretty busy. It's sold out. I mean this this is like I'm okay 22:49.160 --> 22:54.360 Wow, this is pretty interesting now because I had one ticket and and of course Eric. Thank you 22:55.320 --> 22:59.960 You know there's a high likelihood that you're going to get put next to someone else who had one ticket and 23:00.840 --> 23:06.520 I was there a nice new on time and the theater hadn't filled up yet and I sit down next to a gentleman who I think was 23:07.240 --> 23:10.280 Probably in his late 80s and 23:10.680 --> 23:13.640 You know, I say hi doing and I said, yeah, it looks like 23:13.960 --> 23:17.640 We're the only guys with no dates here tonight and it was a beautiful guy 23:18.280 --> 23:20.280 Who lost his wife a couple years ago 23:21.080 --> 23:24.920 He lives on the embarked era. He comes to the theater and he loves the musicals because 23:25.880 --> 23:30.440 All dialogue really goes too fast for him to process although I had no problem communicating with him 23:31.000 --> 23:35.720 He said, you know, it's not a matter of not being able to hear. I just can't process it fast enough 23:35.720 --> 23:37.000 But I love the songs 23:37.000 --> 23:41.000 I love musicals because you know, I can go with the flow here. There you go music 23:41.000 --> 23:45.560 I can go with the flow of the music whether I recognize it or not and it just makes me feel really happy 23:45.560 --> 23:47.560 It was nice. You know, I had a nice chat with this guy 23:48.120 --> 23:50.440 And he's like he said, hey, yeah, no date 23:51.880 --> 23:55.880 So we get into stuff. We're just talking and he says so how come you're here? I said well 23:56.440 --> 24:01.080 someone who's in in the play and in this musical got me a ticket 24:02.760 --> 24:06.840 And says name is Eric and I pick up the play bill and 24:08.120 --> 24:14.760 Yeah, we're just chatting away and I'm looking I'm actually going to the page now and what is the the title of the page? 24:15.720 --> 24:21.480 Let me see, let me just get to it here. Hey folks on serious satellite radio. I'm so sorry 24:21.480 --> 24:25.000 I can't get this story in within within within a lot of times 24:25.000 --> 24:27.160 You can have to go to dailysourceco.com 24:27.160 --> 24:31.240 Download the rest because it's really it's really worth it. And you'll hear some great music 24:32.440 --> 24:37.480 So I see here's the here's the credits if you wills have it they call it the credits page 24:37.880 --> 24:40.680 Jersey boys the story of Frankie Valley in the four seasons 24:41.640 --> 24:49.000 Book by Marshall Brickman and Rick Ellis or at least music by Bob Godio more about that in a minute 24:49.560 --> 24:56.120 lyrics by Bob crew with Eric Bergen Michael Ingersol Christopher Cale Jones and Devon May 24:57.080 --> 25:01.720 Dude, he's not in this he's fucking starring in it so I'm like you know going through the play bill 25:02.280 --> 25:06.360 And sure enough you've got the who's who's in the cast who's who in the cast listen to this 25:06.520 --> 25:13.080 You've got a kick out of this Eric Bergen who plays Bob Godio now Bob Godio was the man who wrote 25:13.800 --> 25:20.680 just an amazing amount of fantastic hits for Frankie Valley in the Ford not just for Frankie Valley in the four seasons 25:20.680 --> 25:26.600 But for many other artists as well and it wasn't until he joined the four seasons that are really 25:26.600 --> 25:31.880 kicked into gear in the combination Bob Godio and Frankie Valley that's really what the magic was 25:32.840 --> 25:36.360 It still is actually I should say so Eric Bergen plays Bob Godio 25:36.680 --> 25:40.280 Eric is a recent non graduate of the North Carolina School of the Arts 25:40.280 --> 25:45.480 Eric is thrilled to finally be making his agent some money and to be part of the Jersey boys family 25:45.880 --> 25:51.720 Other recent credits around the country include white Christmas the three musketeers and warrior 25:52.040 --> 25:56.920 Eric is also the producer and host of green room radio an arts and entertainment podcast at 25:56.920 --> 26:03.480 www.greenroomradio.com all the love and thanks to mom and dad whatever you guys did seems to have worked 26:03.480 --> 26:11.640 Please visit Ericbergen.com for more info and that's E-E-E-R-I-C-H Bergen dot com so I'm like oh, okay 26:12.840 --> 26:15.560 This is really quite amazing. Let me tell you 26:17.000 --> 26:19.320 Not and and this is of course why I'm on this whole 26:20.360 --> 26:26.200 Musical educational trip because by the way the audience was pretty old I mean definitely skewed old there was a lot of 26:27.000 --> 26:28.600 You know people probably in their 50s 26:29.720 --> 26:33.640 Who would and and 50s and 60s I would say who would definitely witness 26:34.120 --> 26:40.120 Frankie Valley in the four seasons and by the way when you hear some of the songs if you you know 26:40.120 --> 26:44.760 If you'll just take a moment and go to iTunes and listen to some of the previews or if you have some kind of music 26:44.760 --> 26:50.840 Service just you know type in Frankie Valley in the or the four seasons Frankie Valley and that's V-A-L-L-I 26:51.800 --> 27:00.360 And and you'll recognize these songs probably from the third or fourth version or the third or fourth time that it was a hit and cover versions 27:02.600 --> 27:04.600 This story is indeed about 27:05.240 --> 27:07.240 Frankie Valley and 27:07.720 --> 27:13.640 And and and what's so nice about it of course the Frankie in the four seasons are from Jersey and 27:14.200 --> 27:16.440 You know indeed. I'm from Jersey and 27:16.920 --> 27:21.400 You what came across so well in in this piece is 27:22.520 --> 27:26.520 What Jersey guys or Jersey boys are like? 27:28.200 --> 27:31.640 famously Frankie Valley and Bob Gaudio 27:34.520 --> 27:37.960 Sealed their professional relationship on a handshake and 27:38.600 --> 27:43.880 They always agreed you know this is how we're gonna roll with it from from this day on and to this day indeed 27:44.200 --> 27:46.200 They they still have you know a handshake agreement 27:47.720 --> 27:52.520 It's such a Jersey boy thing the way they talked. I mean it came across so well 27:52.520 --> 27:56.760 I completely connected it's also a very very physical 27:57.320 --> 27:58.520 Peace of work 27:58.520 --> 28:05.880 There's a catwalk so you really have two levels of the stage and every single actor is is moving pieces of set in and out 28:05.880 --> 28:11.800 I mean the scene changes there's there must be a hundred of them and it goes so quick because the actors are actually 28:12.600 --> 28:14.600 moving the set pieces in 28:15.560 --> 28:19.080 The lighting is fantastic sound amazing 28:20.040 --> 28:22.040 Absolutely amazing 28:22.600 --> 28:29.160 The singing oh gosh. I got to tell you it was really it was just enjoyable 28:29.640 --> 28:31.640 Let's see it's 28:31.640 --> 28:37.240 Christopher Kale Jones who plays a Frankie Valley fantastic voice and I don't know how these guys do it 28:37.240 --> 28:41.400 Because you know they're miked with theatrical mics which are kind of hidden on their head or in their hair 28:41.880 --> 28:46.280 And it was pretty clear to me that the microphones that we're using on stage were just props and 28:47.240 --> 28:54.680 It must be very hard to sing a song hold a microphone but not to really have the direct relationship between what's coming out of your mouth and the mic and fun of you 28:54.680 --> 28:56.680 You know thing is stuck to your head basically 28:57.960 --> 28:59.960 I just I don't know how they do that 28:59.960 --> 29:03.480 Devon May who plays a Tommy DeVito who kind of founded the group 29:05.000 --> 29:09.880 Great actor award winning actor. I might add just amazing performance and 29:10.040 --> 29:17.000 And Michael Inger saw who plays Nick Massey just everyone in the cast was fantastic. There was another guy there 29:18.440 --> 29:21.000 What's his name and all you know 29:21.400 --> 29:30.280 In a couple of songs all of a sudden you'd you'd hear this incredible voice and I'm looking around like where's it coming from and this this guy would be on the stage again 29:30.280 --> 29:32.280 And he was just ripping it up. It was so good 29:33.240 --> 29:35.240 Um 29:37.320 --> 29:43.240 Not anyway, so if you have it it's a pretty hot ticket so you may not you know you can probably see it in Vegas 29:43.240 --> 29:44.920 You can see it on Broadway 29:44.920 --> 29:48.760 It would be nice if you were able to see it in San Francisco. I'm sure this is the traveling show 29:48.760 --> 29:51.560 So I don't know when or where they're going next 29:51.880 --> 29:57.480 But it is a show that we'll teach you something because even I was saying oh crap 29:57.480 --> 30:00.920 I forgot all about that song. I didn't or didn't even know that 30:01.880 --> 30:04.680 That it was a frankie valley in the four seasons song. I mean 30:05.320 --> 30:11.320 Even though I know every single one of the songs the memory is so limited so it's really important that 30:12.360 --> 30:18.680 You know that we keep reminding ourselves of what what great songs have been created and as the story goes throughout the evening 30:20.440 --> 30:22.440 All the songs 30:23.400 --> 30:28.440 Come at it the exact moment and in the exact circumstances that the song was written 30:29.400 --> 30:35.720 And at one point frankie valley separates from his wife and and she's a sweetheart 30:35.960 --> 30:40.680 But you know, it's a show business, right? It got all messed up and that's when 30:43.240 --> 30:47.000 Bob Goody writes this song for frankie valley and 30:48.280 --> 30:50.280 Just hearing it on stage 30:51.960 --> 30:53.960 It was uncanny man 30:54.760 --> 30:58.680 It was so beautiful when you listened to the lyrics and know the backstory that 30:59.400 --> 31:02.200 He was trying to make and show business and it wrecked his home life 31:03.750 --> 33:58.120 [ Music ] 33:58.120 --> 34:10.520 You know I have like promo as all kinds of stuff I wanted to play that I'm just going to leave that until tomorrow 34:11.480 --> 34:14.920 Because I want to leave you with that music ringing in your ears so that you 34:15.320 --> 34:18.840 Well, you just won't be able to help yourself but go and find out more about 34:19.240 --> 34:22.920 The wonderful music of Frankie Valley in the four seasons and again 34:23.320 --> 34:27.960 If you have a chance to go see this musical jersey boys and if at all possible with this 34:27.960 --> 34:34.360 Cast in wherever they are you definitely should do it Eric burger you are 34:35.240 --> 34:41.480 Eric burger God damn it I suck Eric burger you are a huge talent 34:42.680 --> 34:53.240 Fuck podcasting man on stage is where you belong you've totally totally got it and I got to tell you this guy carries a large portion of this musical with narration and the timing 34:53.800 --> 34:55.800 blown away dude completely blown away 34:56.680 --> 34:57.720 All right 34:57.720 --> 34:59.400 One more full day in 34:59.400 --> 35:06.440 Northern California that'll be tomorrow. Oh, I'm gonna be on cranky geeks with that's John C. Devorex show cranky geeks.com 35:06.440 --> 35:08.440 So I I don't know if they do that live or 35:09.800 --> 35:14.280 And then put up the podcast, but I guess the podcast will be put up tomorrow. So give that 35:15.400 --> 35:17.080 Check that out check it out 35:17.640 --> 35:22.440 All right daily source code calm Adam at podshow.com. Thank you very much for listening 35:22.840 --> 35:27.480 Talk to you tomorrow another pod show podcast stick it in your ear 35:33.160 --> 35:39.480 The best in the brightest served up daily by the sharpest minds in content delivery podshow in line light