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With $60 million worth of
airplane strapped my ass.

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For the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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We don't mean us.

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We can get rid of you.

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I like to think I'm trying to
make sure.

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Autistic.

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It's Adam Curry.

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Dr. Doctor, do you think he's in
a make it?

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I don't know what to mean, but
there's a few things we can try.

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First, James Earbuds and his
ears real tight.

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Now, crank up the DSC 570.

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All right, I can do find this
picture in the current time.

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I'll just open the basket and
see if he'll come around.

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That guy's coming right in,
look.

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That's good.

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That's good. Keep it up.

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Keep cranking the DSC 570.

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Of course, he'll picture the
current time I always have.

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I will look for my eyes.

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The wind's coming with my help.

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You might have come up from the
war.

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He will have supper that I put
to be moved.

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He that keep it be will not
slumber.

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Behold, he that keep it is real.

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He'll tell me they're slumber.

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The Lord is that keeper.

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The Lord is that I shade upon
their right hand.

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The sun shall not smite by day.

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We're the moon by night.

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The Lord shall preserve thee
from all evil.

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We shall preserve thy soul.

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The Lord shall preserve that
going out.

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And I coming in from this time
for it.

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And even for it ever more.

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The Lord shall preserve that
going out.

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The Lord shall preserve that
going out.

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The Lord shall preserve that
going out.

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The Lord shall preserve that
going out.

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The Lord shall preserve that
going out.

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The Lord shall preserve that
going out.

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The Lord shall preserve that
going out.

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The Lord shall preserve that
going out.

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I've got to say kind of to me by
surprises as well.

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Here in the whole thing for the
third time, I'm liking it.

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It is, of course, the Shakes
from the pod and set music
network.

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I want a better life.

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This is the Dr. Remix.

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I put up two remixes yesterday.

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And something about it just
like, yeah.

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like yeah. Awesome. Can wait to
hear this one in the

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clubs, fellas. Everybody how you
doing is daily source code

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episode five hundred and seventy
five seven zero coming to you

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from the affluent suburb of
Surinone is gulford the west
side of

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G-town is represented for you.
It's the curry manner up in the

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air and Adams attic more a more
iteration for you perhaps it

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is a beautiful day outside. I'm
so hoping that the weather keeps

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up for tomorrow because there's
a sixty percent chance that my

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aircraft will be returned which
means you probably won't have a

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daily source code tomorrow
morning because I'll be in
transit. If you

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don't have a daily source code
by Thursday then you'll know
that

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something didn't go well with
the English channel navigation

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solo flying you know what I'm
saying. Lots of thoughts today

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about bum rush the charts lots
of bum rush thoughts that

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listeners in the UK please do
not be alarmed I know that you
think of

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something different when I talk
about bum rush.

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Speaking of bum rushing hold on
a second let me open up the
other microphone.

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I think something must have gone
wrong with uh with my email and
Amy Mac last

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week because well I've quite
frankly I didn't get to ask her
size.

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Make it to the other mic.

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Hello. All right there we go.

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Amy, thank you so much.

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Adam, hey, Amy Matt. Hey, Matt.

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How you doing today? We're doing
tiptoe squat.

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Tiptoe squats okay. I'm sure
there's a more masculine name
for him but I like this one.

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Yeah there's no masculine name
for him. You're going to start
standing tall with

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feet facing out in a diagonal
away from you and hands on hips
okay away from

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that. Nowadays up under your
tiptoe's and then squat down as
far as you can

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keeping those heels off the
ground. Taking them like with
me.

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You want your head shoulders and
hips to all be in a straight
line.

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So no sticking that booty back.
It's hurting into the right
hands.

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Squeeze the butt as you come up.
Coming.

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Come on. Good. Now you have nine
more to do.

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All right all my tips. This is
really good for your core as
well because you have to keep
your

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balance on this one. Yeah you
do. It's going to nasty or don't
hold your breath.

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You always remind me to breathe
and I'm so happy you do. Stay up
on those tiptoe.

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Yes yes yes. Oh that squeeze the
butt nabs. It's kind of weird.
Good job.

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Makes me want to have a great
weekend and until next time.

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I think I I was a little
premature with the exercise.

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Pre-missue or a
ascertainization. Yeah have a
great weekend as well. It's only
Tuesday where I'm

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living. I'm sorry. I'll let me
close the other mic there.
That's the lady Patricia's mic.

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Ugh. That's really weird. You
should try that one. This of
course is in the continuing
quest to

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tone up my ass because I sit on
it most of the time. Now that I
have the sit down studio instead

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of the stand-up studio. The
whole office is sit down for Cry
6.

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Let me just catch my breath. I
should try that tiptoe thing.

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Because when you go all the way
down to the ground it feels like
you're squatting like you want
to do

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something nasty. Let's see what
my condition is so shit. Let's
see what's coming on the

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voicemail comments. Of course,
no milk cast complete without a
comment from Eric Burgund's mom.

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Hey Adam. Alice in the ear. Hey.
By the way. No hummer.
Rapcast.com.

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So I had to call in and say
something after listening to my
son's speak and after talking

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to him in great lengths last
week. That would be Eric Burgund
calling it about bummering the

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charts. Hold on a second. Now
did I already play this for you?
I don't know. If I already

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played it just fast forward. And
I got to say something that the
two of you left out that I think

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is really important, which is
how you feel and how empowering
it is once you do something like
this,

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that it's not about getting a
song to number one. It's about
being heard. It's not about

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well, do we just pick a song? We
didn't really care about the
song itself. We just wanted to
show

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we can do it. Like you said
Adam, yeah, that is what it's
about. But even more importantly
about

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that, it's like having that
experience that you can do it
because what happens next is
exactly

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that. What do you want to have
next? Once you realize that you
have the power to change
something

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like that, it's freeing. You
just know, okay, what am I going
to do next? How do I get heard
more?

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It's no surprise to me. In the
times today, there's an article
written by Jeff Leeds called

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the album, a commodity in
disfavor with the tagline
underneath, with CD sales
falling,

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label-seek new deals with Apple.
Here's a quote from the article,

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executives maintain that they
must establish more lasting
connections with fans who may

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well lose interest if forced to
wait two years or more for their
favorite artist,

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releasing new music. Well, there
you go. I mean, that is what
podcasting and everything has

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over everything. It's why I
started craftcast. I realized
that loved all the crafting
networks,

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but when they went into repeats,
there was no new information you
had to wait months.

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And here is a format where you
can put out information every
day. I know from the subscribers

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and people who write in who
listen to me and how my fanbase
is grown, that people want to be

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able to have that kind of
content that there's a need for
it. It's very exciting. It's
really

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the bottom line. I can barely
wait to hear what the next bum
rush the chart type of that is,

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because it's just it's being on
the frontier edge here. It's
just all unfolding and it's
really

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exciting. So big thank you to
you Adam. Love your show and
love all the discussions and
look

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forward to what's happening
next. Naked pictures. That's
what's happening. As you say
unfolding around

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unscrewing before I very eyes, I
didn't quite catch it. Yeah, bum
rush the charts has it has a

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different meaning for every
person involved. And that's
what's nice about it because it
didn't

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have really one central drive
behind it. But it is of course
an audience exercise. And I've
thought

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about this. Remember yesterday,
I just thought started popping
into my head. This is exactly
what

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happens to hip hoppers. Whenever
they receive an award, they
always thank God for putting
those

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lyrics into their heads. It's
exactly what happened to me
yesterday. And I want to share
those thoughts

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with you. But first to continue
in the bum rush thoughts with
some other typical griping,

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it's our friend. You know, we
need a jingle for this guy. It's
the New York Londoner. It's the

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nylon. Hey, Adam. It's the
nylon. The New Yorker in London.
I can just hear Jeff Smith's
brain

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crunching what he can do with
the nylon. I know you're in a
little budget there. You can't

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employ a sack check, checker.
So, oh, yeah. Oh, nylon. Why do
you start off like this? Yeah.

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I know you want a little budget
dude. You can play a trick
tricker. No, that's what I have

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you for. You're my fact checking
bitch. Corrections and then a
final word on bum rush to talk.

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All right. First, the reason why
you probably don't know about
the E.C. 50th is that

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it's actually the European
economic community that's
somewhere in the 50th birthday.
And that

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consists of Belgium, France,
Italy, Luxembourg, the
Netherlands, and West Germany.
It wasn't

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sort of master treaty in 92 that
what we now know is the European
community came into force. So,

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it's only about seven countries
that actually were part of that
gum celebration. I'm signing
back

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in 1957, I guess. Second. Okay,
before we go to second. All
right. Well, thank you very much
for

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the correction. That does
explain a lot if the U.K. was
not in that region, in that
treaty from

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1957. Then this is what I mean.
It's so confusing. We've got the
European economic community.
We've

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got the European Union. It's
complicated. Why can't it? Why
can't it just be easier to
understand?

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And yeah, you're right. I don't
have fact checkers for that. If
I had to fact check everything,

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I'd be like fucking mainstream
media dude. Of course, I do
expect comics to be blogger to
check in.

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He is the official EU
correspondent. Is you mentioned
the powerhouse of A.D.M.

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Ambro and the Dutch and such.
Let me maybe be behind your F.C.
But if I'm likely in 90 days,

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that A.D.M. will be a Dutch bank
to allow the British or American
bank. Well, obviously,

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I understand that. I could read
newspapers too, Nylon. I know
that A.B. and Ambro was for sale

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due to underperformance. In
fact, I think I even alluded to
that in what I said. I was very
careful

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to say it still is a Dutch bank.
It's not even a fully owned
Dutch bank, of course.

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It's part to talk now because
you've got me in this whole fact
checking thing.

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Yeah, I do read the newspaper.
And by the way, that's a big
part of the discussion going on

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in the Netherlands right now is,
you know, Unilever has already
been partially sold off.

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In fact, what does the
Netherlands still produce after
A.B. and Ambro has gone? What's
their main

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industry besides tourism for
tulips and fucking bicycles?
Nothing. All the great industry

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has been sold off or moved on or
consolidated and sold off.

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So anyway, thank you for
pointing that out. There's made
a bit as you know, and probably

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city bank will come in. So mine
is a collection there. And by
the way, Nylon, I'd like to know
a little

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bit more about what you do
exactly. You're in the financial
sector. Are you a trader?

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You know, a manager or maybe IT
manager, banking, of course, is
largely an IT business.

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Tell me a little bit about you
if you don't mind. You're so
credible, you know.

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On second bank, F.C. again,
actually, was that Twitter made
the front page of the F.C. at
least

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here in the UK? Yeah, that's uh,
I think I said that as well.
That's the reason why I brought
it

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up is because in on the front
page, there was a whole article
about Twitter. I think at

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line, I'll see what you're
saying. So be interesting to see
how this new little phenomenon
has hit

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the front page of the Wall
Street Journal without even a
bummerous, the on-challenge sort
of

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promotion. Oh, please. Has
nothing to do with bum rush the
charts? It's completely
something

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completely different. Podcasting
was on the front page of the,
it's continues to be on the
front

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page of the F.T. Twitter is a
phenomenon. And again, I'll say
that there's really only two
parts

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who would want. I believe that
the United States is now finally
discovering the simplicity

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and reliability. I'll just say
quote reliability of SMS text
messaging. And they're loving it

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because it's a very personal
communications channel. And of
course, the the cool thing about
it is

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that it's opt-in. So it's a
published and subscribe
mechanism. I think we'll see
several of these,

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but this is a very, very obvious
one. And I think Twitter is
really catching on more in the
states

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because the whole idea of text
messaging is now dawning upon. I
think a very important group of

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influencers and early adopters.
So curious thing to watch. And
finally, I'll say the topic,

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bum rush. Yeah. This is the
short version of it. Is that it
sounds like a promotion or was

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a podcast is for a podcast of
the benefit barcasters. If there
is a bummer chart version 2.0,

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make it customer centric. Make
it where me, someone in the
outside, not like you, someone
in the

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inside, look at it and say,
okay, as a customer, I see what
this is doing for me. You need
to expand

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the audience, not preach to the
converted. So my constructive
comment is version 2.0,

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bum rush discharge. You've got
expand in your audience, not
preaching to the converted
patting everyone

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on their back. You need to get
that 1% who download a 100
million iPods out there to 5%.

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Then I think you've moved the
needle. It's about customers. So
not to criticize it, but

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constructive comment. And last
thing. All right. So first of
all, I don't take that as
criticism.

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I think you're you're right in
in many regards. I'll let you
finish. I see you've got like
nine

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seconds left. So whatever you
have to say is gone. Oh, why do
my ass? Since you always like my
ass

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on the radio show after I'm
done. Why if you're asking me to
talk about scrunching and
holding.

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Cheers. Do keep calling. Okay.
Whatever you do, don't

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stop and don't turn nice on me.
But that last comment you made
makes a lot of sense to me. I
did

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some thinking yesterday. I do my
best thinking in three places.
One is in the bathroom.

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Dirling my morning break, which
consists of the financial times.
I take no technology with me

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into the into the smallest room
in the house. And by the way, we
have a special room just for me,

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which is off to the back of the
pantry. So it's a and it's
nicely heated and I've got my

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ash tray in there. Because of
course, you know, I have to have
my morning tea and perhaps

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something else to get my brain
going. And, you know, I'll just
sit there and I take a long
time,

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and like half an hour type of
guy. I love it and I'll read the
two sections of the paper that

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I enjoy reading the most and I
take the rest upstairs. So
that's one place where I do a
lot of

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great thinking. I'm always
inspired. I love the newspaper.
I really do. In the shower is
another

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place where I just can
completely zone out as if
hypnotize, as if back in the
womb. And the third

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place is actually when I go to
bed. When I close my eyes, I'll
usually cement a problem in
there.

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I don't know if it's healthier
not to do this, but I'll cement
a problem into my mind or

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something that I want to work
out. And then often in the
morning, the brain is done the
work.

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During the night and it all
becomes very, very clear. Maybe
the brain has already done the
work.

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It just has to sort it all out
and put it into perspective so
that my consciousness can

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take note of it and act on it.
So bummer us the charts version
2.0. I think should

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become something completely
different. What? In hindsight,
looking at this, we used iTunes
as

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a validation mechanism, and
really very difficult to
validate against mainstream
media. Obviously,

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we want customers to, and when
you call customers, what I call
audience, to feel that they have

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this power, to see how to use
it, which works through posting
things on web logs and calling
in,

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writing into your favorite
podcast and using your my space
to propagate the message, just
really

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the concept of the unlabel. What
we have not had, and we have a
lot of really good things,

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though the massively important
piece that we have is the pod
save music network that allows
access

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to the free and clear MP3 tracks
for producers of shows to use
and the reporting mechanism,

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the reporting back because that
gives us a social media network.
You find a song, you like,

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you see what other shows who
played the song, you're likely
to find another song that you
will

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also like that that same show
played. Also, we can compile
charts. The sea dog is one of
the

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many people who do a pod save
music countdown. So this is all
extremely important in like a
parallel

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music industry universe. So what
we're missing really is the
accepted and approved. It's the

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same thing, no matter what new
media always comes down to a
certain point, you have to be
able to

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compare it to traditional media.
It's unfortunate, we'll get to
other types of metrics, but we
do

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need to have this and the iTunes
charts are obviously used a lot
as as a means of justification

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or proof. Regardless, we don't
even know how the iTunes charts
are put together. So here's the
idea

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because we've been talking to
app as we being pod show. This
is what I'd like to do. I don't
know

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what else is going to do with
bum rushed the charts. I don't
own it. We've been talking for

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man over a year now, at least,
about what we can do with iTunes
music store and the pod save

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music network. And I think I've
finally got it. What we need to
do is to enable, let me step
back one

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second. It's very hard for an
individual artist to get their
track onto the iTunes music
store,

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because it's really it's a huge
backlog. There's, you know, the
iTunes music store team isn't,

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you know, isn't huge. And what
they much rather prefers taking
a weekly upload from aggregators

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and these aggregators are, of
course, record companies and a
few other and independent
labels.

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There are a couple of these
aggregators. So the concept for
me would be to become an
aggregator.

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You get your song onto the
iTunes music store by uploading
your track, basically, with all
the

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appropriate information to the
pod save music network. So a lot
of you have already done that.

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So all you have to do then is
just tick a box, which says,
yes, make this eligible for
purchase

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through the iTunes music store.
Now, here comes the tricky part.
What I'd, so the concept here is

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that we use the purchase of
these songs as, as the metric
that they're traditionally used
for,

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in other words, we link, if you
want to buy a track, and this
is, it's very, very tricky,

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because we already have a
purchase function on pod save
music network. If you want to
buy a track,

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and you want to have your vote
counted through this, quote,
official thing, which will be
through

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the, you know, the official
metric that Apple uses for all
of their purchase data,

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then you'll be shuddled over to
the pod save music to the, to
the iTunes music store, your
iTunes

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pop open, you'll buy the track.
I'm still happy to pass on all
the money. I don't need to take

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any money from the artist. The
iTunes is already taking money,
just like the credit card
companies

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take money if you buy it through
the PMN. And then we should also
enable you to automatically

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download the, the MP3 version.
Maybe it's an email with a link
to it or something like that.
You know,

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if you buy it, then, you know,
the whole concept is that you
should be able to have that MP3

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free and clear of DRM. So we
kind of sort that issue out.
Then what we have, literally,

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is a bum rush the charts chart,
which is open for anybody. So,

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even if you don't have a
podcast, if you just want to, if
you're just turning people onto
this piece

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of music, this track or this
artist, you can use a link, send
them over there, depending on
how many

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people download, whatever the
magic sauce of the calculation
is. It'll rise in the charts
when

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it rises in the charts. That's
when people get excited. You try
to make it go higher in the
chart,

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and then there's really another
tier. You know, you could break
into the overall iTunes top 100
chart.

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You understand what I'm saying?
So this chart would only be of
songs purchased through iTunes

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that are affiliated with the pod
safe music network. I hope I'm
explaining this properly because

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it's starting to gel in, in my
head. And we're going to have a
meeting this week and see if we

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can get this going because it
makes a lot of sense. It will
be, it's almost like an
independent chart.

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I just had to shut up for a
second there as the satellite
listeners dropped off.

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Hmm. So this chart would be only
to be manipulated or changed by
people purchasing tracks.

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So essentially, you can start
your own bum brush because it'll
move the needle on our own chart

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and from our own chart, of
course, there's many other
places it can go.

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Does it place us as a second
tier? No, I see it as a
parallel.

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But we're coming in as an whole
industry as a label that has as
an unlabel that has no interest

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in the in the sales of the
music. But does have an interest
in making all this content
available

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and being able to produce, you
know, a real network effect
based upon a reward system,
which is,

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hey, look at that. It moved up.
So of course, the sales are
going to be much lower than, you
know,

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the mainstream efforts just
because, well, we're learning
how to use our network.

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So that's why we have to have a
separate chart. Something like
that.

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Hey, you know what I haven't
done in a while? I haven't, uh,
I haven't done a proper go daddy
commercial

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but, oh, let me, uh, you like
this track? I found on the pod
saying music network.

25:49.400 --> 25:50.440
Let me just open this up.

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I think it's Dan from Creepy
Sleepy who, uh, who gave me
this, uh,

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just this regular read. He
really thought about it too. So
I'll provide the music and he'll
provide, uh,

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oh, it's like lyrics and music.

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it's like, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it

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is like, it's like, yeah, that's
right.

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But that's right, and if you
use, uh, uh, I wish I knew the
creepy sleeping code.

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Well, my code is dsc3go onto
creepy sleeping.com.

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Find out what this code is and
use that.

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And he'll get a little bonus.

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And you'll get a bonus discount.

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That's fun the way that works.

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So those of you wondering what's
going on with the free Trinity
project, I'll

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tell you our um, We can New York
and in London.

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Interestingly enough resulted in
some very serious interest to a
sponsor the project so I'm kind
of in limbo because if we get
sponsoring in

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And it's a whole different
approach I'd like to take

27:30.000 --> 27:36.000
Both with sending some finances
on to save the world, but more
importantly, we could really do
something with the production

27:36.000 --> 27:38.000
I've kept everybody in limbo

27:38.000 --> 27:40.640
Kind of like in irons, if you
will, I'm sorry about that

27:41.360 --> 27:46.460
Particular apologies go to
Barbara the polo Alto podcast,
who's just also been kind of
like sitting still waiting for
me to

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To go left or right. It is going
to happen

27:49.580 --> 27:53.020
I just want to give it another
week or two

27:53.980 --> 27:55.980
To see if we can

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Up the ante a little bit so to
speak

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Remember it's all about
independence and true human
relationships

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Jeff you got that. I'm gonna
order a jingle pack as pretty
soon

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And of course this program has
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My forgetting something. Oh,
yeah. Yeah. Oh, I got to get
Patricia up here. She had the
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the show so she can

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Another interesting comment.
I've been going back and forth
with this guy for quite a while

28:50.620 --> 28:54.580
We're supposed to hook up for an
interview. I didn't really want
to cloud the free Trinity

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vibe with what he was coming in
with but it is so interesting to
me

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And it's a real tin foil hat
type of moment. So here it is
Adam right Adam's here. You know
the guy that wants to build
backyard atomic engines

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Okay, it sounds like shit.
What's going on? It's a run out
run atoms. I think it is and

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He's completely into backyard
atomic energy. I got to tell you
that's tough does turn me on

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It's wanted to call and say how
much I enjoyed your last
two-board Friday show

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I think you have it about right
the great thing about new media
is it's a playing field that's
then leveled a bit

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By the wide open unconstrained
access to the internet provides

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Sure bum rest of charts was
display of power the goal was to
show the old guard that they no
longer have as much controlled
over the distribution channels
as they once did

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As time goes on the battle be a
little bit more about talent and
passion and about ownership of
the scarce resource like radio
airtime

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How absolutely I'm all the way
with you there buddy. I'm a big
fan of independent action

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I've been working for about a
decade and a half as an indie
atomic engine designer and
builder

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Our system is all about
independence from control by oil
exporters coal suppliers

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large equipment manufacturers
and gas pipelines with

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1950s inches technology. I once
steamed around the ocean
completely divorced from the
grid from months of the time

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With current technology we think
we have a way forward that will
demystify and democratize atomic
energy

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You've said that you do not want
to get into the atomic
controversy or is that

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Controversy it's controversy the
topic is important in a world
with constrained fossil fuel
energy supplies and a growing

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Understanding that air pollution
just might be damaging the
planet's ability to sustain
human civilization as we know it

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Just imagine some day in the not
too distant future

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It might be a clean emissions
free reliable moderately priced

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Adams engine supplying a new pod
so data bar

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Hey, dude. I'm totally into it.
I'm totally interested

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And you know that that there's a
huge

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pile of money that is being
invested in this sector if you
really got something let's talk
about it

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I can certainly make the right
introductions for you

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But if you please send in in
some more info and do something
about the recording quality
because that was absolute crap

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I don't know what you're using
you can if you're not gonna do
more than 10 minutes

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Won't just go to casplash.com
and download the free version.
You can use that

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Tell me what does need it what
what has to be done? What are
the the raw materials? Is it
safe?

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I mean these are all the
questions. What about the the
nuclear waste? You know that's
the kind of stuff we get here to
know

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Remember these guys that came on
to the network about month ago
the brand new heavies all fired
up from the pod save music
network

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on TSC

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