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That's the challenge from here
on out when you go on vacation,
you got a lot of damage

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control to do.

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Sorry.

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Clear prop.

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Delta, Sierra Turm.

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5, 86.

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16 billion dollars worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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We're in the next generation
radio content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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At a monkey with nightmare, I'll
talk to you guys for a bit more
time, so that's

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a bad thing.

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I mean, it's just giving you a
kill right into the ground, I'm
tired of it, but it's

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a bit disappointed.

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It starts like a whirlwind,
thinking that you'd go for it,
making lots of time, and

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Hey everybody, how you doin'?

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Welcome to the Daily, source
code episode number 586, coming
to you just briefly,

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just for one day from the Curry
manor, in the affluent, subρε
entrenonn district,

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in the affluent suburb of
serenones gulfard here in Adams
attic yes the

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south of the savants at your
service hey back from vacation
tomorrow i take off

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immediately to uh San Francisco
for the rest of the week i would
have gone uh uh

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Sunday which is actually we
arrived late last night or
actually early this morning

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calling uh sorry i actually
didn't want to hear you that was
really nasty um

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we arrived late last night from
our uh from our eight days in
the sun in ten

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and reef which i never been to
before very nice i have to say
uh it was on a scale of

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one to ten i'd say it was an
eight and a half uh at times
close to a nine of course uh

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there were some crappy moments
as well where the uh the
headphone earlobe infection uh

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definitely uh worsened and so i
was at Tuesday or Wednesday uh i
think it was

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i don't remember now yeah
Tuesday had the doctor come and
uh i don't know if you were

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following along on the uncurry
dot com or the web on the web
log uh i was posting

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a lot of flicker pictures as
well from my uh from my E61 i
which uh just a fantastic device
i

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really enjoyed using it um not
being paid to say that by the
way i'm such an idiot but then

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again i really like it so much
um uh so uh yeah i had to order
a doctor and uh you know i'm

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laying there and you know my
earlobe is really thick and it's
starting to pound a little bit

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and i've been through this
before and they basically have
to cut it open you know squeeze
all this

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crap out of it and uh i'm not
got the door like okay here's
the doctor you know i don't
speak

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any Spanish except for a year
but boina that's about it and i
knew how to ask for them photo
but you know

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and in walks a uh a young woman
uh turns out uh 27 year old
doctor from pole and who'd been

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living there for two years uh
she said she just came to the
island for adventure but she
really

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wanted to go back to pole and we
had a nice little chat and she
looked at my aunt she said well

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i think it's too early to cut i
don't think we should do that uh
you know it could cause

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more problems than it could
solve like what the hell does
that mean and she put me on some

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any biotics like really heavy
shit like 875 milligrams of
moxasilin or whatever and it's
like

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just a hum and you can feel the
shit coursing throughout your
veins so uh waited for 48 hours

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uh it only got worse i was
waking up at five in the morning
my ear really really

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hurting and so you know it was
just the skin was all it really
it was like the size of a big
marble it

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was disgusting uh so uh agatha's
her name she came by uh uh was i
think was Thursday and i said
okay

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look please just cut me she said
yep got a cut you i said your
place remind baby she said

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my place but you can't ride with
me because you know it she
doesn't have any insurance for
that or

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whatever uh so i had to go over
to the clinic met her there and
uh she was great she was joking
around

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with me she's like okay uh what
how big a knife do you and she
spoke this really cute with

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English with like a Polish kind
of Spanish accent it was really
weird how big the knife do you
want

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anyway so uh she had like some
some guy off the street i think
no he was an ambulance driver

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hold my hair up while i'm laying
face down uh she can't you can't
anesthesize the the earlobe

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they can only spray like some
cold stuff on it so it kind of
feels like uh it's numb because
it's

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basically freezing off uh and
that she was cutting and
squeezing and uh and
unfortunately i didn't

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i if i'd known what was gonna
happen if uh if i'd actually if
i was able to find Christina

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would have asked her to come
along and film it so
unfortunately no video of the
actual event

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so now that's why my headphone
is uh uh is producing feedback
is because i have to put the

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it literally is from the
headphone because now i feel
that the cushion on the
headphone is rubbing

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against the actual area the god
infected so the headphone
earlobe it's true it's what it's
what this

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whole thing is from and why i've
had it now in the past uh twice
at least with the exact same
results

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unfortunately something stuck on
my throat maybe something markio
shemodonem cough left

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by the way i got about equal
love and equal hate armna on
mark filling in on the show
interesting

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um i didn't listen to all of
them i did listen to the comic
strip blogger segment which uh

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it made me laugh out loud many
many times but uh it wasn't uh
wasn't really daily source

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going material but i really
appreciate mark filling in and
uh pushing uh pushing the
envelope so we

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we know where the limits lie
with with this audience at least
and it was very interesting to
uh

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to read a lot of the feedback
yeah okay so um yeah it's anyway
great vacation how to great time

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a little bit of a a panic last
night you know our our visas our
temporary visas have expired

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and our permanent visas are in
the in the in the works of the
home office so after you know

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produce all this paperwork in
order to be led into the country
uh you know it takes about 10

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15 minutes at at customs and so
we were last to get our bags and
this is 130 in the morning

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and uh so i see my bag and you
know it's the one of the last
ones and i pick it up and

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it's the it's a big to me roller
bag and it's got a gold card and
it's got the uh the to me
leather

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um address you know tag and then
i and i'm looking at it and it's
my bag right but i say wow
that's

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interesting because the TSA cut
my lock off how come there's a
lock on my bag this is the
original

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lock that came with the bag and
i'm like confused it Patricia
put that on and then i start to
see

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subtle nuances uh the gold card
that was uh was attached to the
handle was for British airways
and

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not for Virgin and i'm like oh
crap here it is one third in the
morning we're the last ones

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off the plane everyone else has
their baggage someone's taken my
bag obviously mistaken it very
easy

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to do by the way so like oh hey
i got i got lucky i went over to
the uh to the baggage department

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the guy had actually realized it
before he left the airport he
had already gone through uh
through

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uh customs and all that stuff so
he was waiting on the other side
but i mean what are the chances

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of two bags and the almost
exactly the same configuration
uh from the same flight from
tender

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reef so i was waving my arms
like a fucking maniac i was so
pissed off you know i was
telling

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about the E61 um i used it in
many different ways uh of course
line at the pool i could
actually

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reach a wireless access point
which was really nice so i was
downloading podcasts and what i
did

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this was an interesting little
uh experiment that i tried um i
used the the podcasting
application

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on the on the E61 i uh to
download all the shows i wanted
to listen to and then i access
them

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through the N800 with my
headphones on through bluetooth
there was literally streaming
from the

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memory card on the E61 i through
the air through bluetooth into
the N800 which has a nice stereo
sound

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that has the regular you know
you know has regular headphone
jack so you can just you know uh
put

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little ear buds in and it would
it work i was just amazed the
interoperability of the devices

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was fantastic but uh just having
this E61 i sparked off a lot of
comments out of the E61 i

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come out ever since it was in
it's back in February i realized
yesterday it just started
shipping

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in part to Europe and i've been
reloading aid advances to hit
they've got any in it you've
already

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got one you're so in so i can't
wait to get mine at earlier if
i'm really jumping at the bit

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i've got a palm hand that was
dying on its ass and i can't
wait to count it and switch over
to

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Nokia stop carrying two devices
anyway best of luck i'm really
waiting for mine yeah man

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yeah that E61 and i is something
special i got to tell you um the
the whole the way the whole
thing

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works it's it's such a it really
is a big upgrade from the E61
which i had to give to Christina

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because misthing lost her phone
somewhere so we had to go
through the whole hassle of uh
you know

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putting a temporary block on the
account i still don't think
they've they sent us a new sim
card

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to don't think it's been
activated yet um and yeah like
i've already bought her a
million phones

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and so i have a perfectly good
phone to say he used this one
she said but it's really manly
say

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you know tough shit don't lose
your phone you know use the
money you from working on
weekends to go

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buy a new one and also you know
i'd like the uh well she had the
n91 which is also a phone

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that that i got from Nokia a
long time ago which i liked a
lot we call it the break because
it's

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literally indestructible it's
big too but she drops her phones
you know for friends cars drive

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over them so we'll see how long
the E61 last oh yeah love to
hear from you keep those calls
coming

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will ya plus four four kilo
seven six eight one three seven
five three plus four four two oh
seven

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six eight one three seven five
three i thought i didn't realize
this thing this phone isn't

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out apparently so i didn't i
just thought that you know i
just there was saving myself a
trip to

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the store and a couple hundred
pounds by a good one for free
but uh i guess people are really
excited about

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out of the gym space sixty one i
i don't know where the stuff
because i've gone freaking
afford it

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they don't get spoiled like do
you do you really million i get
that you know and not uh E61 i

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micro SD cards go to pick stop
PIC ST or P dot code or you get
or see or dot you kid

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i'm not endorsed by and i don't
get any money off them but
they've got micro SD one gate
cards for like

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seven quids i don't want to put
some time on it again but i
don't think seven quids for

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my birthday you can replace your
five gigs you can't believe that
i can't believe it seven

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pounds for one gig i think i
must have paid forty pounds it
like to or maybe thirty pounds
for

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a one gig micro SD micro dick
card whatever it is i's a pretty
dang good deal man but those

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card you know the cheap cards
will crap out once in a while
okay so on vacation time to
reflect

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read some good books um thought
about uh yeah a lot of things of
course is what you do on
vacation

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it's been a year since we've
been away and i think it's time
to start changing the format a
little bit

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of the daily source code now i'm
it's gonna be interesting
because with every format change
it's

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all experimentation and just
trying to figure stuff out and
it's kind of you know just at
the

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almost a day before mark called
comic strip blogger i was
thinking you know what can i
actually

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was in combination with the i
miss because of course i miss
got uh got uh canceled i should
say

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fired slash canceled i don't
have to rehash the story um now
i was thinking idiot okay here's

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what was interesting about it is
even though there was a lot of
uh you know like Howard Stern
type

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stuff um then of course uh there
was then i want to take the napy
headed home comment uh this is

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really a program where a lot of
um policy makers decision people
decision makers it really
interesting

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people i would say would call in
uh regularly to discuss uh
current events and it turns out
that you know

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Washington really listened to
don i miss i didn't know that
and i'm not really an i miss
listener to

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be honest uh and now of course
i'm like shit you know maybe i
should have listened to him a
little bit more

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i have a it was always like
maybe that's because uh he uh
Stern always put him down and i
say well

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this guy's got to be dick it's
got to be a loser show i
shouldn't listen to it but now
i'm kind of

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bummed out because uh you
probably had a really
interesting show and just didn't
know about it all these years

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um i think and you know why
can't we you know have fun and
you know fart and burp and

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and talk about naked pictures
but also um have some really
interesting people on and uh you
know

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i am of course the sultan of the
savance and i i have a lot of uh
people with a lot of knowledge

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at my fingertips literally if
not maybe two phone calls away i
could get almost anybody i want
to

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really i'm convinced of it you
know but we have to build it up
and i'd like to talk to other
people

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who know something about stuff
you know and not just the same
old uh polished media types who

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talk in beautiful soundbites and
appear on all of these new shows
you know we've got you guys
first

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of all um so i'm thinking you
know i'd love to talk about uh
uh financial i'd love to talk

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about the world bank with the
nylon right i'm sure that nylon
knows a lot about the well

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i'm how does the fucking world
bank work what is it what does
it do what you know what's up

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with Paul Wolfowitz i'm not
getting any of this information
from mainstream media uh yeah
you know

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bits and pieces of it and of
course i do know what the world
bank does but you know i know

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Patricia doesn't know Christina
doesn't i don't think they care
and if there was someone

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interesting compelling who's
already you know in the audience
or friend of the show or just a
savance

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in general and preferably
someone who has a speech
impediment or hates me or you
know the normal

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people right let's just have
human beings who who happen to
know a lot of stuff talk about
it

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and i also thought well maybe uh
there's a lot going on still
with uh you know with Korea

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and uh just with the uh the
administration are you as the
administration in general i
thought

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yeah maybe should call uncle Don
i just want to do some phone
calls uh or Skype calls or

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whatever they're going to be so
um i figured i'd start off uh
since um uh commentary bloggers
first

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appearance on the daily source
code in a live environment um it
was not the first experience i

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would have wanted him to have
again i had the laugh that was
into the to the the conversation

17:48.120 --> 17:55.080
mark and uh CSB had uh figure
you know why don't want to i
have him be the first guy to
kick off this

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new format uh because i know
it'll be difficult uh to uh to
aid understand them probably uh
b uh he

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he may have his own agenda um
and but you know i think he does
know a lot about uh european
union affairs

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and there's some stuff i want to
talk about in that regard and
y'all so uh of course knows a
lot

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about uh mobile phones or at
least he says he does so uh to
start off uh the first of our
series

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of uh savon specials and i hope
to be able to talk to a savon
every single day uh it's gonna

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take some production but again
you know i'm um changing the
format and morphing stuff it
just takes

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time it's also probably gonna
run a little bit longer than
usual but remember there's a
fast

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forward button on there for for
a reason so um anyway uh comics
are blogger was nice enough to
uh

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hang with me uh this evening so
that we can talk about a couple
of things in our first in the
savon

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series comic strip comic strip
comic strip comic strip comic
strip comic strip that's right
the very

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first savon to be on the show
csb how you doing my friend and
finally then it's Sunday

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evening and i'm going to sleep
soon well before you go to sleep
uh csb uh i want to uh ask you a

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couple of questions because
there's been a lot of uh new
stories that i was following uh
during

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my vacation of course i had my
uh my uh Nokia e61i uh in my
pocket at all times and i was uh

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reading news and uh and mucking
around a bit and uh the big
thing that a couple of big
stories

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first one was about uh the
people who manage the and i
didn't know that this was a
central resource

19:42.200 --> 19:48.920
the people who manage email that
goes to blackberries uh company
called rim they had a a huge

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outage and um well there's a
couple of things about the first
of all i i think the uh the
mainstream

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media just kind of like glossed
over it i mean for for any
servers to be down for or is it
uh 18 hours

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or something like that i think
is a really big deal
particularly when it comes to uh
to the blackberry

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service because uh governments
use it and uh lots of people i
know use it and i was wondering
if uh

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if you had any idea you know
they say it was like some cash
flow problem uh you know no no
no so

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i have met the CEO so i have
seen CEO i was participating in
the session of the CEO of rim

20:25.400 --> 20:30.440
and remit's a cake Canadian
company that it's not only
running the blackberry service
but they

20:30.440 --> 20:36.040
are also producing and licensing
blackberry devices and software
for smartphones for blackberry

20:36.040 --> 20:42.920
okay so so you met the CEO
always that were you said yes
this is Balcille Balcille and he
is

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bald he is no hair and and very
arrogant it was very arrogant
and i think this uh arrogant way

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of uh rim it's reflecting also
how they handle the customers
during this outage for example
uh

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they have not published and
noticed but they just were quiet
about the situation and at the
end

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they have said that okay the
situation is clear now so so if
you are not receiving email in
your

21:08.680 --> 21:13.080
blackberry for some day and you
go to the website of blackberry
there's no information about

21:13.080 --> 21:18.520
outage so you know this is let's
say such arrogant but behavior
and this is caused by the fact

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that uh blackberry so this
corporation research in motion
is is the abbreviation and they
they are

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simply they have simply such
strong market position that they
totally are arrogant through

21:31.640 --> 21:36.120
its customers and they have some
competition but it's competition
is quite distributed and they

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are quite focused and i think
the problem was simply shitty
software they have of course it
was

21:42.440 --> 21:48.280
they have updated the software
to the new version and during
the the change they have simply

21:48.280 --> 21:55.880
they backup was not working and
uh not professional shitty
software during update okay okay
so

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hold on a second see us be okay
so the CEO is not only is he
arrogant but he's also bald on
top of

22:03.320 --> 22:10.520
all that okay he has no hair but
is he responsible for this isn't
there CEO or someone else who

22:11.720 --> 22:15.800
I don't think so I don't think
that there will be a putting
some responsibility to anybody
that

22:15.800 --> 22:22.280
they will just say that it was
shot outage and nobody will be
responsible for that they as
they

22:22.280 --> 22:31.160
had very strong market position
and practically specifically in
this push email market they are

22:31.160 --> 22:36.920
market leaders and okay so do
you think this is a bad thing is
I mean you can license their

22:36.920 --> 22:41.640
technology I guess can't you no
but they say that this is one
off this is one off and they
will

22:41.640 --> 22:46.040
never every again and no problem
okay but but we all know of
course something like that is

22:46.040 --> 22:49.640
bound to happen again they're
they're selling what a million
blackberries a month there's
some

22:49.640 --> 22:54.440
some crazy number like that it's
in in total they have something
like 10 million customers I'm

22:55.400 --> 23:00.120
but it could keep you mind that
apart from the blackberry
devices you can install this
blackberry

23:00.120 --> 23:04.680
connects software also in your
smartphone so on in this
smartphone for almost except for
a

23:04.680 --> 23:08.680
will it work on a Nokia no you
can't put that on a Nokia can
you it should work in a Nokia I

23:08.680 --> 23:14.040
was talking with Nokia and both
in one of the trade shows and
they told me that the Nokia

23:14.040 --> 23:19.240
E61 series that they're
supporting all push email
standards are really so good
technology on

23:19.240 --> 23:23.880
blackberry oh okay that's pretty
cool if you continue this shit
properly it should work

23:25.880 --> 23:30.280
of course remember remember the
blackberry services connected
with your mobile operator so why

23:30.280 --> 23:35.080
that's curious there is so in
this way you have to contact
your mobile operator you cannot
do it on yourself

23:35.080 --> 23:39.880
CSB you were just such a platter
association in information well
I love hearing all the

23:39.880 --> 23:44.200
stuff you know about it so
incidentally because I'm going
to this mobile phone trade shows
and

23:44.200 --> 23:51.160
another patients and I'm looking
meeting some as close and who
are you meeting?

23:53.240 --> 23:59.240
It is managers and other stuff
for example I have seen him in
the session this guy from

23:59.240 --> 24:04.840
from room in in Spain in
Barcelona at the GSM and I have
seen him talking that

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whatever we have our devices we
have blackberry connect software
here it is from my

24:11.240 --> 24:18.120
point of view this mobile
operating systems but we don't
care okay so personally about
blackberry

24:18.120 --> 24:23.800
I could talk about a lot but
generally speaking you cannot
run native software in
blackberry so

24:23.800 --> 24:28.680
you can run on Java applications
so it doesn't really mean that
we in comparison to smartphones

24:28.680 --> 24:34.120
like Symbian or like Windows
Mobile where you can launch any
application also like very
complex

24:34.120 --> 24:40.040
gigabyte applications for
navigation and stuff right so
you think that it's that there's
going to

24:40.040 --> 24:43.480
be more out of just from rim
this is what you predict you
think and could they do?

24:43.480 --> 24:48.840
No no I think that they now they
have learned the lesson and now
they will do more testing

24:48.840 --> 24:53.080
and in future upgrades there
will simply say they will be
claiming that it was one off and

24:53.080 --> 25:01.640
it will never repeat again but
just philosophically CSB to have
now 30 million but in a couple

25:01.640 --> 25:07.400
years it could be double that
number to have 40 50 60 million
people depend on one company for

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their lifeline of communications
isn't that isn't there a better
way of doing that?

25:12.600 --> 25:15.240
Fuck you I don't care you don't
have this thing that's in the
communication

25:16.760 --> 25:22.120
special scalable solutions and
they can handle setting me on
without problems okay

25:23.560 --> 25:27.960
Alright let's move on to another
question I had for you this is
something that we've been
talking about

25:27.960 --> 25:34.040
on daily source code for a while
about roaming charges
particularly in the EU and I
came across

25:34.600 --> 25:37.080
the story in the Wall Street
Journal is came out in April
13th

25:37.960 --> 25:42.680
I don't know one thing some Esco
is checking out maybe he wants
you baby

25:44.760 --> 25:50.520
Alright well so let me just read
the part of this new story so

25:50.520 --> 25:54.920
a proposal to cap roaming
charges from mobile phone calls
in the European Union

25:54.920 --> 25:58.600
created an important hurdle with
when a key committee of the
European Parliament voted for it

25:58.680 --> 26:03.400
I would have to bullshit so much
let me tell it started okay let
me just say one thing

26:04.120 --> 26:10.120
let me bullshit a little bit
more you know Patricia has a has
a virgin mobile

26:11.560 --> 26:17.480
account and they were charging
her to call outside just to call
back to the UK from Tenerife

26:17.800 --> 26:25.400
one pound and 50 pens per minute
just to call out and it was one
pound if she received a call

26:25.720 --> 26:34.440
okay this is crazy so this is
crazy to the extent but
obviously these are different
countries

26:34.440 --> 26:40.200
and the mobile operators are
like vampires the stacking blood
of customers but you look

26:40.200 --> 26:47.000
the situation is such that there
is new EU directives on new law
that EU government is saying

26:47.000 --> 26:52.760
Esco's bus stats mobile
operators used to reduce roaming
fees and I agree I think the

26:52.840 --> 26:58.600
of the mobile operators by
definition are bastards no no
you are saying this to the
mobile

26:58.600 --> 27:04.040
operators and the mobile
operators will increase roaming
fees to such Esco's like
yourself

27:04.040 --> 27:09.800
who are coming from USA the
European directed this has to be
lowered then what do you mean

27:09.800 --> 27:16.200
they're going to charge me more
because they will finance this
70% reduction of the fee

27:17.080 --> 27:22.200
by judging more people who are
coming from outside of the EU
okay but all right

27:22.280 --> 27:28.120
okay so to the the EU customers
won't get penalized but people
who have accounts from outside

27:28.120 --> 27:33.800
the EU will be penalized is that
what you're saying yes and the
apart from that keeping mind
that

27:34.840 --> 27:41.240
there are already mobile
operators that are agile and
offering for example if you go

27:41.800 --> 27:46.840
there is operator three in UK
you have heard about three
operators yeah of course yeah

27:47.000 --> 27:52.840
and this is a quite new one this
is owned by Asian company
Hachison and

27:53.880 --> 27:58.280
sort of speaking all breeds of
Asian origin are buying the
three because they are

27:58.280 --> 28:06.200
Asian also so anyway that with
three if you have a three a cart
and you are going to Australia

28:06.200 --> 28:11.320
Austria Hong Kong Denmark
Ireland Italy also with them and
you are receiving a phone call
you don't

28:11.320 --> 28:14.680
pay anything right well this is
but this is my point this is the
way it should be I mean

28:14.680 --> 28:20.760
voter phones network in the UK
is gotta be the same voter phone
network in Spain except

28:22.120 --> 28:26.920
if you actually go to Spain
you're still using voter phones
network but you get charged all
these

28:26.920 --> 28:32.120
roaming fees so that is now
going to go away effectively or
it's going to be there at all
but it shouldn't

28:32.120 --> 28:37.080
be there at all it's the same
network is there on network
isn't it? Adam this big bastards
like

28:38.280 --> 28:43.080
what a phone team are they are
too big that too arrogant to
reduce it to the zero and they
have no

28:43.160 --> 28:49.400
hair probably too right if
they're arrogant that they will
reduce only 70% and only such
small

28:49.400 --> 28:56.040
operator like three but it it
three has divisions in Australia
in Austria Hong Kong Ireland

28:56.040 --> 29:01.080
if you go to Australia with
three SIM card you receive phone
call and you make phone calls to
British

29:01.080 --> 29:09.080
numbers without NFC okay okay
fantastic now yeah understand I
understand but they don't want
to do it

29:09.720 --> 29:16.120
okay so what is the solution to
the and and we haven't even
talked about data I mean you pay
like

29:16.120 --> 29:22.600
a pound per megabyte downloaded
when you're roaming which is
another thing it just kills me
the

29:22.600 --> 29:26.840
amount of that is being paid for
data traffic does this directive
address that at all?

29:28.120 --> 29:32.520
No it is only about phone calls
I remember about data there are
some operators that are
addressing

29:32.520 --> 29:37.320
this issue for example in case
of voter phone what are phone
calls special plans that when
you go

29:38.200 --> 29:43.960
Spain we do what that phone SIM
card from UK then you can pay
the similar of the very similar
price as

29:43.960 --> 29:50.360
in UK right okay let me let me
let me let me ask you this let
me ask you this just for my own

29:50.920 --> 29:59.960
own personal benefit what is the
best operator for me knowing
that I spend about half my time

29:59.960 --> 30:06.120
in the United States and I spend
half my time or yeah let's say
40% in the United States 40% in
the

30:06.920 --> 30:15.960
UK and another 20% in different
countries in Europe like the
Netherlands what will be the
most

30:15.960 --> 30:22.920
cost effective for me not just
for calls but also mainly for
data because I really need the
data

30:22.920 --> 30:30.760
connection no no your situation
is fact that all right hold on a
second we'll be right back

30:30.760 --> 30:40.360
with more from comic strip
blogger music and making good
one uplifting song and one
uplifting

30:40.360 --> 30:49.480
story in the news she told me
she told me she told me she told
me she told me she told me she
told me

30:50.120 --> 30:53.480
you

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unfortunately okay fortunately
what're they're foking ever all
right

31:11.860 --> 31:16.920
something another country is to
whatever just one more thing
about mobile phones CSB

31:16.920 --> 31:24.040
be both Motorola and Nokia
reported their financial
numbers, the quarterly numbers,
Motorola

31:24.040 --> 31:31.120
had a huge loss, like over a
hundred million dollar or euro
loss, can't remember.

31:31.120 --> 31:36.440
And Nokia, who is still
profitable, made a lot less
profit.

31:36.440 --> 31:38.640
What's happening?

31:38.640 --> 31:44.580
So I also have met this ESCO's
during TGSM and the third show,
and to extend their

31:44.660 --> 31:49.580
short, the bald guy without
hair, who's the he who's he?

31:49.580 --> 31:54.580
Exender is a CR of Motorola,
right, okay, he's also an
arrogant guy.

31:54.580 --> 31:59.580
And no, no, look, in the sense,
look, they have big success with
Motorola Razor, you know?

31:59.580 --> 32:00.580
Yeah.

32:00.580 --> 32:07.580
And this Motorola Razor was a
success, and then instead of
innovating and diversifying the
portfolio

32:07.580 --> 32:13.580
in mobile phones, they're just
waiting out the news, the speed
images of the Motorola Razor.

32:13.580 --> 32:20.580
And this way, in this way, in
this way, and that, you know,
Motorola, that's way, you know?

32:20.580 --> 32:21.580
Wait, wait, what are you saying?

32:21.580 --> 32:22.580
What are you saying?

32:22.580 --> 32:25.580
Are they good or no good?

32:25.580 --> 32:29.580
In what sense, you're going to
generalize over simplifying
things?

32:29.580 --> 32:30.580
What sense?

32:30.580 --> 32:36.580
Well, are they making products
that people want and do they
know how to make them
profitably?

32:36.580 --> 32:41.580
No, the situation with Motorola
is such that they first ideas
are good, and they are

32:41.580 --> 32:44.580
getting up in the next
generation of products.

32:44.580 --> 32:46.580
That can give several examples.

32:46.580 --> 32:51.580
For example, in the case of
Motorola Razor, the next
Motorola Razor was thicker.

32:51.580 --> 32:54.580
And in the case of Motorola Q
Smartphone, it has wheel.

32:54.580 --> 32:57.580
But Motorola Q, next generation,
it has no wheel.

32:57.580 --> 32:58.580
But it has HDPAs.

32:58.580 --> 32:59.580
So there's no wheel.

32:59.580 --> 33:00.580
Well, it has no wheel.

33:00.580 --> 33:01.580
What is that?

33:01.580 --> 33:02.580
Wheel.

33:02.580 --> 33:03.580
In the score wheel.

33:03.580 --> 33:04.580
Oh, wheel.

33:04.580 --> 33:05.580
Okay, wheel.

33:05.580 --> 33:06.580
Okay.

33:06.580 --> 33:09.580
He was smart for most very
popular in USA.

33:09.580 --> 33:14.580
And even Steve Faking Jobs was
showing it as the one of phones
from the competition.

33:14.580 --> 33:16.580
And it was a very good phone.

33:16.580 --> 33:21.580
But Motorola has not released
GSM HDPA version fast enough.

33:21.580 --> 33:24.580
And when they release it, it has
no screw wheel.

33:24.580 --> 33:26.580
So that was a big mistake.

33:26.580 --> 33:28.580
That was a big mistake.

33:28.580 --> 33:29.580
The no screw wheel.

33:29.580 --> 33:30.580
Yes.

33:30.580 --> 33:31.580
And also this big mistake.

33:31.580 --> 33:35.580
And also, you know, simply
competition is rising too fast.

33:35.580 --> 33:38.580
And I mean my career in France
from LG and Samsung.

33:38.580 --> 33:40.580
And also knock-and-boost
knock-ah.

33:40.580 --> 33:42.580
They knock-ah has new CEO.

33:42.580 --> 33:45.580
His name is Oli Peca Calvalsau.

33:45.580 --> 33:50.580
And he placed your Maulida who
was very, very long time in the
CEO of knock-ah.

33:50.580 --> 33:53.580
No, you're not a big fan of
knock-ah, right?

33:53.580 --> 33:56.580
Yes, they are bastards.

33:56.580 --> 33:58.580
Who do you like?

33:58.580 --> 34:01.580
Is it only Windows mobile that
you like?

34:02.580 --> 34:06.580
I like Motorola, but no, the
problem is with Motorola.

34:06.580 --> 34:10.580
They are not consequent and not
fast enough with the actions.

34:10.580 --> 34:11.580
I got it.

34:11.580 --> 34:12.580
How about Nokia?

34:12.580 --> 34:16.580
Because I got to tell you CSB,
this E61I.

34:16.580 --> 34:18.580
I use this for a week.

34:18.580 --> 34:20.580
I didn't use any other device.

34:20.580 --> 34:25.580
And it really right down to the
built-in wayfinder GPS.

34:25.580 --> 34:29.580
You know, and it goes out and
brings in the maps through the
data connection.

34:29.580 --> 34:31.580
It could find me immediately.

34:31.580 --> 34:37.580
I installed, was it Shouzu when
I could geo and code the
information into my pictures.

34:37.580 --> 34:44.580
Obviously, phone calls, no
problem, the data connection,
the Wi-Fi, the podcasting
application.

34:44.580 --> 34:49.580
Really, it really was a very
enjoyable experience.

34:49.580 --> 34:52.580
I think that this phone, they've
got to hit with this phone.

34:52.580 --> 34:54.580
I think it's fantastic.

34:54.580 --> 34:57.580
Okay, I know that you have to
buy a knock-ah button.

34:58.580 --> 35:00.580
I'm, you know, they send me free
shit.

35:00.580 --> 35:02.580
Look, you know, I'll try any
free shit, obviously.

35:02.580 --> 35:09.580
Nokia has, there are two reasons
why Nokia has, so actually three
reasons why Nokia has such big
success.

35:09.580 --> 35:11.580
And it's number one in mobile
phone industry.

35:11.580 --> 35:13.580
It is also related to business.

35:13.580 --> 35:18.580
And there is a number one is
that they have very, there's
been a lot of money on
marketing.

35:18.580 --> 35:20.580
And actually there are Eastern
European countries,

35:20.580 --> 35:24.580
but they're in with Russia,
formerly Soviet Russian
Republic.

35:24.580 --> 35:29.580
But they have create image that
this phones are coming actually
from Japan.

35:29.580 --> 35:30.580
So this is the first reason.

35:30.580 --> 35:31.580
The second reason.

35:31.580 --> 35:33.580
Okay, I don't give a shit where
they're made.

35:33.580 --> 35:34.580
It's a good phone.

35:34.580 --> 35:36.580
The marketing for me doesn't
make any difference.

35:36.580 --> 35:38.580
I'm using the device and I'm
liking it.

35:38.580 --> 35:40.580
Doing what I want the device to
do.

35:40.580 --> 35:44.580
But the point, this is the fact
that they have a very good
marketing.

35:44.580 --> 35:48.580
A lot of money spending on
marketing and a very clever
marketing.

35:48.580 --> 35:50.580
It's confusing.

35:50.580 --> 35:56.580
For example, they're putting
high resolution images in the
shitty resolution display

35:56.580 --> 35:58.580
and giving you different
impressions.

35:58.580 --> 36:01.580
But okay, the second one is now,
what are you talking about?

36:01.580 --> 36:03.580
It's two megapixel cameras.

36:03.580 --> 36:05.580
It's nothing super, but it's
okay.

36:05.580 --> 36:08.580
I mean, you're telling me that
their marketing is confusing me,
but it's not.

36:08.580 --> 36:10.580
I'm using the phone and I like
it.

36:10.580 --> 36:11.580
It has nothing.

36:11.580 --> 36:13.580
I'm already past the marketing.

36:14.580 --> 36:15.580
Okay.

36:15.580 --> 36:18.580
The second reason is big
diversity.

36:18.580 --> 36:21.580
The second hidden secret, big
diversity.

36:21.580 --> 36:24.580
So they are offering phones for
every asshole.

36:24.580 --> 36:25.580
They have phones.

36:25.580 --> 36:27.580
They look like blackberry.

36:27.580 --> 36:29.580
They look like...

36:29.580 --> 36:30.580
My phone.

36:30.580 --> 36:32.580
I got to tell you.

36:32.580 --> 36:37.580
I gave Patricia the really hit
pink one that kind of slides
open.

36:37.580 --> 36:39.580
I forgot which model number it
is.

36:39.580 --> 36:41.580
Yeah, it's a Nokia.

36:42.580 --> 36:45.580
It's like it's not all the
fashion magazine.

36:45.580 --> 36:48.580
Okay, so there's a case in point
about the great marketing.

36:48.580 --> 36:49.580
But she loves the phone.

36:49.580 --> 36:51.580
It just really works.

36:51.580 --> 36:52.580
She understands it.

36:52.580 --> 36:55.580
I think you got admitted just
making good products.

36:55.580 --> 36:57.580
So this is diversity.

36:57.580 --> 37:00.580
And the third secret of sexism.

37:00.580 --> 37:03.580
When they have that line for
releasing the phone,

37:03.580 --> 37:05.580
they release it no matter what,

37:05.580 --> 37:07.580
even if they have to cut on
features.

37:07.580 --> 37:09.580
And in case of Motorola,

37:09.580 --> 37:10.580
this is a point.

37:10.580 --> 37:12.580
For example, the sexes of the
Moto Latius,

37:12.580 --> 37:17.580
smartphone was released with one
year delay or six months delay.

37:17.580 --> 37:18.580
So this is execution.

37:18.580 --> 37:20.580
And they deliver no matter what.

37:20.580 --> 37:21.580
Okay.

37:21.580 --> 37:23.580
So the Nokia is not...

37:23.580 --> 37:25.580
There are reasons why Nokia is
good,

37:25.580 --> 37:26.580
but in the phones.

37:26.580 --> 37:28.580
But you should understand that
the symbioness,

37:28.580 --> 37:29.580
power in your phone,

37:29.580 --> 37:32.580
is not really open operating
system.

37:32.580 --> 37:36.580
This is a cartel of Nokia,

37:36.580 --> 37:39.580
or something like that.

37:39.580 --> 37:40.580
Yeah, but CBSB.

37:40.580 --> 37:42.580
I don't give a shit if there's a
cartel.

37:42.580 --> 37:44.580
I don't care if there's a
cartel.

37:44.580 --> 37:47.580
As long as they put the camera
in the phone and make your work,

37:47.580 --> 37:49.580
as long as they make the speaker
phone work.

37:49.580 --> 37:51.580
I don't mind a cartel.

37:51.580 --> 37:52.580
I don't want to have to...

37:52.580 --> 37:54.580
There's nothing missing from
these devices

37:54.580 --> 37:56.580
that I need someone to develop
for it.

37:56.580 --> 37:58.580
It's all kind of work, and I
like it.

37:58.580 --> 38:01.580
And speaking of Nokia, as you
said,

38:01.580 --> 38:04.580
if it has had loss,

38:04.580 --> 38:06.580
but Nokia has still profit,

38:06.580 --> 38:09.580
but the profit margin of Nokia
is going down,

38:09.580 --> 38:12.580
because most of the phones that
are selling their cheap phones,

38:12.580 --> 38:15.580
and Nokia would like to sell
more expensive phones

38:15.580 --> 38:18.580
like the one that you got.

38:18.580 --> 38:20.580
And shortly speaking,

38:20.580 --> 38:22.580
apart from mobile phones,

38:22.580 --> 38:25.580
Nokia 25% or 30% of business of
Nokia

38:25.580 --> 38:27.580
also net mobile networks,

38:27.580 --> 38:30.580
and Nokia is managing with
Zimans

38:30.580 --> 38:32.580
in the network series, for
example.

38:32.580 --> 38:35.580
And this could be also the
reason why they don't have

38:35.580 --> 38:38.580
such an excellent profits.

38:38.580 --> 38:42.580
Interesting thing is that Zimans

38:42.580 --> 38:45.580
may not just involve in Canada's
enjoyment

38:45.580 --> 38:47.580
because of some corruption or
whatever,

38:47.580 --> 38:51.580
but it doesn't disturb Nokia
going forward.

38:51.580 --> 38:52.580
Yeah, I think you're right.

38:52.580 --> 38:53.580
They've got good products.

38:53.580 --> 38:55.580
They have a diverse line of
products.

38:55.580 --> 38:58.580
And they understand their
business.

38:58.580 --> 39:00.580
So now, how come you hate them?

39:00.580 --> 39:03.580
That's another reason.

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Would you care to tell the
Charlie listeners about that?

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Because, no, I'm afraid behavior

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that they should say short
towards myself.

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And personally, I know that they
have,

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you know, this is a small
country, Finland.

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And in this country, if you are
a lawyer,

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and Nokia is saying something,

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you kind of have no chances to
sort of Nokia, for example.

39:40.580 --> 39:41.580
Okay.

39:41.580 --> 39:45.580
So there's some kind of dispute
that you had, which...

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I'm interested in smartphone
markets.

39:50.580 --> 39:53.580
So generally, these phones of
the higher end phones.

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And in this market, the
practices of Nokia,

39:56.580 --> 40:00.580
with Zimian, where they're
pushing this Zimian operating
system.

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For example, this funder of
Zimian was a British company
called PSEON.

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And PSEON wanted to float this
company on the stock market,

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but Nokia said, no, because you
want to keep control.

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Nokia has 50% of it.

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Okay.

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It's pretending that this is
actually open industry
initiative.

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Well, of course it's not.

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Okay.

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Let me just ask you one final
question.

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I really want to stop about the
mobile phone industry.

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The hell was I going to ask you
about?

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Oh, yeah.

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In all this time that we've
known UCSB,

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I still don't really know what
you do.

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Could you just tell me what your
vocation is?

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How do you make a living?

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I'm software developer.

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And I was really...

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I was working at Nokia in
Finland 3S,

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and they fired me because of
blogging.

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Really?

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Oh, okay.

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Now this is interesting.

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So they fired you because of
your blogging,

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but you're a software developer.

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So you are a prolific
programmer.

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And designer, yes.

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Really?

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Okay.

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What platform?

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Adam.

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And the price software.

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I wouldn't like to talk to my
she.

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I like that man.

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Come on.

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I really want to know more.

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What do you...

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What do you program for?

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Symbian or do you program?

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I don't know more.

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But another society people want
to know more.

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We'll be right back with one
more segment

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with comic strip blogger.

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Okay.

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So I see that Splendon Fultures
is no longer

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advertiser for Pacho.

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Well, I guess I'll go back to my
old coffee

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and...

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Well, there's some about this
tonal pm.

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And since I've ran out of
Splendon,

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I guess we're supposed to use
the tonal pm.

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And the coffee.

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So...

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Well, I'll give that a shot
anyway.

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And let's try it out and see
what it tastes like.

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Okay.

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Here goes.

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Okay.

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Well.

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Not quite as sweet as I thought
it'd be.

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A little tart.

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But I got it mida.

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I liked it a lot.

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And...

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Hey Adam.

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It's Steve Warner from
Fidipidations.

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The weekly Pacho podcast for
runners at 1.pacho.com.

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With a quick follow-up that I
thought you'd appreciate.

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And a big thank you to a lot of
the folks back in the Pacho
office

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who went all out to help me in
my running

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of the 111st Boston Marathon.

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Pacho made quite an appearance
in this year's Boston Marathon

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and I received a lot of great
encouragement on the course

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as I ran this race in a brutal,
noriester.

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Pacho!

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Pacho!

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Pacho!

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Pacho!

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Oh, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Oh, it's cold.

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I'm going to eat it.

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It's blown away.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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You will.

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Anyway, I just posted episode 93
of Fidipidations

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where you can hear me run this
26.2 mile road race.

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Check it out at run.pacho.com.

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I'm already getting ready for a
series of races.

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I'll be running this summer with
plans to run a couple of
Marathons in the fall.

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Thanks for all the support Adam.

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I'm Steve runner and I've got to
run.

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Steve runner from Fidipidations
podcast

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who ran the Boston Marathon.

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I love it that he had that
T-shirt.

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He had the Pacho T-shirt on and
people are yelling.

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Go, Pacho.

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We probably could have put like
cocksucker on it.

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People were like, go,
cocksucker.

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They had no idea what they were
talking about.

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We've got comic strip blogger on
the Skype for a portion of
today's show.

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Thank you.

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I was going to ask you about the
French elections,

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but I guess it's kind of boring.

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Actually, by the time people
hear the show,

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they live information that we
don't know how the latest round
went.

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No, this is just the first
round.

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It's kind of like American idol,
isn't it?

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The way this works, I didn't
know that the French have a very
specific way of elections.

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They have a...

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It's almost like the Eurovision
Song Contest.

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They have a first round and then
they have a second.

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There's a third round or the
second round is it?

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No, the second round is the
final round.

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Generally speaking, in French
elections,

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everybody was looking at the
first round

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whether they would be surprised
or not.

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Because last time they were
surprised.

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Big surprise, because let's end,

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which is right wing, X-ray means
has won.

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No.

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But this time there was no
surprise

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and this two leading candidates,

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the Sakozi and Riyal,

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they have just moved to the next
round.

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But in Sakozi's leading now.

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I like the Sakozi guy.

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It looks like a nice guy.

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Is he alright?

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So, you know, I am myself a
little bit right wing

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and Riyal is a nice way.

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He's left wing.

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He's left wing.

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Is that what you call them?

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Bigger pattern?

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What did you call them?

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No, it's a clear school guy.

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Okay.

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Nobody's left wing.

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His niece, Sakozi's left wing.

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Sakozi is a right wing.

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Oh, I'm sorry.

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Riyal is left wing.

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Okay, Riyal is left wing.

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Okay, Riyal is left wing.

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And Sakozi's channel is picking

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wants to prevent Turkey joining
you

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and Riyal is saying,

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what's she wishy wishy wishy
wishy.

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Well, wait a minute.

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Shouldn't Turkey be allowed to
join the EU?

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Are you against that?

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Personally, I would like to give
it to the vote of people.

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Right.

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Because Turkey is huge.

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Turkey used to be the middle of
Europe.

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Not really.

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Yeah, yeah, Turkey was like
Turkey was like the, like the
the other

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Rome.

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Wasn't it?

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No.

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It was constant up.

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Constantinople.

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Constantinople was the second
Rome.

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Wasn't it?

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Yeah.

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Is in the continent where's
Constantinople?

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Where the hell was that?

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It's between European, Pat
Turkey and the Asian,

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Pat.

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Okay, so it's Turkey.

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It's Turkey.

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Right, all right, okay, but not
middle of Europe. What the fuck
are you talking about?

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No, I don't know. No, it was
like I didn't like the middle,
but the center, you know, the
economic center is what I meant.

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The problem is that from the
point of view of old societies
in Europe that are aging and
decreasing in

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numbers apart from UK, which is
growing, the Turkey is growing
rapidly. It would be situation
where

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Turkey would have more vote than
Germany in the European
Parliament, and people are
scared in

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France, particularly because
France has a very big minority
of these Muslim people, that if
Turkey

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will join Europe, then they will
simply overrun France. But you
know, it looks.

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Sarkozy is against it and Real
is wishy-washy about it. And the
vote on the next

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in two weeks on 6th May, the
second round will be the final
round, and then we will vote
about

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Turkey in Europe. Shortest
speaking. Okay. So what do you
think? Will it happen or not?
Will Turkey be able to join the
EU?

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I think yes, because Germans are
pushing it. Okay. All right,
just I one more thing for you,
CSV.

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You know, I had a problem with
my earlobe when I was on
vacation in Tenerife, and it was
something

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that it's this headphone
earlobe, you know, because of
the rubbing of the headphone and
it made my earlobe

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you know, infected and grew
really good. Yeah, I'm not using
in here. No, no, no, no, I like
the ones

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that cover my ear completely.
Oh, that's what I grew up using,
you know, and also the
headphones

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are used when I'm flying. It's
just the ear-taste. I've had it
before and twice before they've

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literally had to cut it open and
all this gunk comes out and it's
really disgusting and it's

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painful and it's not fun. So,
you know, the worst thing for
this to happen, of course, is

48:33.340 --> 48:39.340
why I'm vacation in the country.
You don't speak the fricking
language. And I was so happy
when

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the doctor knocked on my door
and I opened up and it was just
like really cute, young woman.

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And I was like, oh, okay, this
is going to be all right. And
well, you alone know with
Patricia.

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Well, I was there alone with
Patricia was in the gym at the
time. No, come on, and do,

48:54.620 --> 49:03.180
she's a doctor, right? And she
was from Poland. And her name
was Agata.

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And Agata Zuba. Is that how you
pronounce it? Zuba? I would have
to see the spaling because you

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are S Z U B A Zuba. It's the
Shuba. Shuba. Shuba. Anyway, so
she was really, really funny
because I

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had to go to the clinic because
it had to be a sterile
environment. She was joking
around with me

49:25.020 --> 49:29.020
said, oh, do you want the big
knife, the little knife? And,
you know, she was like, oh, I'll
cut you here

49:29.180 --> 49:33.180
and then she was, you know,
drawing across my neck. And she
was really funny, right? And so
I gave her

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my email address and I said, you
know, if you're ever in London,
you know, look me up and I'll
take

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you flying. I'll repay the
favor. And she sent me an email.
Check this out. She said, just a
short email

49:46.060 --> 49:52.300
to ask, it's funny because she
writes just like you talk, CSB.
It's great. Just a short email
to ask

49:52.300 --> 49:57.500
how are you alive and kicking?
By the way, sometimes when I
find something or someone
unique,

49:57.500 --> 50:03.660
I check it in the internet. Good
to know on cute Mr. Van Gogh,
what an ambition signed Agatha.

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And then, but in her email here,
I'm going to Skype this to you
right now. In her email, what
does

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that mean? At the bottom, her
signature? I just Skype this to
you. Oh, this is just
advertisement.

50:13.980 --> 50:19.820
An advertisement. This is, she
is using free, a service, a free
email service from Poland.

50:19.820 --> 50:27.180
Oh, crap. Oh, crap. No, it's
not, I love you. Oh, like, oh,
maybe she's saying really

50:27.180 --> 50:32.540
hot. Alright. Would you do me
favor? Would you just like, you
just take a note. So I can write

50:32.540 --> 50:38.540
something in Polish because you
just say, uh, like something
really nice, and uh, uh, and
it's, you know,

50:38.540 --> 50:45.100
it's so nice to be held by such
a cute, cute girl and I hope to
see your, uh, take her flying

50:45.100 --> 50:49.500
and learn something in Polish,
but I think it would be really,
really cool to email her back in
Polish.

50:49.500 --> 51:01.500
I can't write it on that fast.

51:01.500 --> 51:04.500
You got to write it to me, man.

51:04.500 --> 51:06.500
I can't transcribe it.

51:06.500 --> 51:08.500
I would write it to you.

51:08.500 --> 51:09.500
Okay, whatever.

51:09.500 --> 51:10.500
Hey, CSB.

51:10.500 --> 51:12.500
I want to thank you so much,
man, for doing this.

51:12.500 --> 51:13.500
This is a very nice of you.

51:13.500 --> 51:14.500
No problem.

51:14.500 --> 51:15.500
Oh, y'all.

51:15.500 --> 51:16.500
Y'all.

51:16.500 --> 51:17.500
Talk to you soon.

51:17.500 --> 51:21.500
I've been with Mike and my head
from Queens.

51:21.500 --> 51:24.500
Cause I'm about to change y'all.

51:24.500 --> 51:30.500
We've lost my listen, y'all.

51:30.500 --> 55:40.500
[ Music ]

55:40.500 --> 55:50.500
Oh, I'm all cut-time.

55:50.500 --> 55:53.500
Oh, I'm all cut-time.

55:55.500 --> 55:56.500
But I'm all cut-time.

55:56.500 --> 55:57.500
Oh, I'm all cut-time.

55:57.500 --> 55:58.500
Oh, I'm all out.

55:58.500 --> 55:59.500
Oh, I'm all done.

55:59.500 --> 56:00.500
Oh, I'm all lost.

56:00.500 --> 56:06.340
He's on Warner Brothers records
and Warner Brothers actually put
this up on the PMN and I didn't

56:06.340 --> 56:12.340
have time to set that up because
well quite frankly the way I
have the the mixer set up when

56:12.340 --> 56:17.460
I call someone on Skype they can
hear my voice through the
microphone they don't have that

56:17.460 --> 56:20.980
horrible echo it's basically
like a phone bridge is what you
call that but for some reason
when

56:20.980 --> 56:25.780
I play tracks out of the cast
blaster the channel is running
through even if the fader is
completely

56:25.860 --> 56:31.940
close it still plays pretty loud
through the through the return
line so I see as B couldn't hear

56:31.940 --> 56:37.300
me and I couldn't set it up
properly but anyway so okay so
so we've done something new here

56:38.020 --> 56:44.580
I'm going to try again tomorrow
hopefully tomorrow of course
I'll be in San Francisco

56:44.580 --> 56:47.700
going to be there for for the
rest of the week coming to you
from the curry condo

56:47.700 --> 56:54.580
I want to talk about web radio
and the new fees that have been
imposed by the copy right

56:55.220 --> 57:00.020
what is it the copy right board
or the copyright protection
friction fraction

57:00.580 --> 57:04.260
and there's only one guy I know
who knows everything about that
his name is Doc Serals

57:05.300 --> 57:10.260
so I'm going to and of course
he's he's a blogger as well it's
I think it's a doc dot weblogs
dot

57:10.260 --> 57:16.740
com and I will see if I get a
hold of him and see we can do a
chat as well and let me know
what you

57:16.740 --> 57:22.260
think you know to we continue to
do this was it uh and some
people may have thought the CSB
stuff was

57:22.260 --> 57:27.940
a little bit long but quite
honestly it's hard to shut him
up maybe I could keep it
somewhat

57:27.940 --> 57:32.660
sure hey wait a minute that's
what the fucking fast forward is
for isn't it Adam and pod show
dot com daily

57:32.660 --> 57:39.380
source code dot com I will talk
to you guys tomorrow bye bye
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