WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:09.720 The $60 million worth of airplane strapped my ass, then the next generation radio content 00:09.720 --> 00:10.720 in my ears. 00:10.720 --> 00:15.960 I like to think I'm flying into this genre. 00:15.960 --> 00:19.440 On Jestig, it's Adam Curry. 00:19.440 --> 00:24.800 In a world where TV networks, movie studios and record labels still think they can govern 00:24.800 --> 00:26.480 what you see in here. 00:26.480 --> 00:31.560 One man has the power to return control of entertainment to the masses and make big 00:31.560 --> 00:35.920 media corporations wet their tiny little pants. 00:35.920 --> 00:42.560 From Pod Show, home of the world's most dangerous new content comes the daily source code 00:42.560 --> 00:44.240 with Adam Curry. 00:44.240 --> 00:48.880 Delta, share it Charlie, five, nine or one. 00:51.250 --> 03:52.240 [ Music ] 03:52.240 --> 03:57.240 Come and round, I need a better life. 03:57.240 --> 03:59.240 This is the life for me. 03:59.240 --> 04:01.240 It's completely pot safe. 04:01.240 --> 04:04.240 And what that means, well, hopefully we'll be exploring that in today's show. 04:04.240 --> 04:10.240 It is daily source code episode 591 coming to you from the curry manner in the 04:10.240 --> 04:14.240 affluent suburb of Suri known as Gulford west side of the G-town be represented. 04:14.240 --> 04:17.240 It's good to be back home. 04:17.240 --> 04:19.240 Man, let me tell ya. 04:19.240 --> 04:20.240 It's good. 04:20.240 --> 04:21.240 It's really, really good. 04:21.240 --> 04:24.240 I didn't sleep a wink on the plane back from San Francisco. 04:24.240 --> 04:25.240 I don't know what it was. 04:25.240 --> 04:27.240 Actually, I do know what it was. 04:27.240 --> 04:32.240 It was a combination of just as not being tired. 04:32.240 --> 04:37.240 And the fact that it still was despite the the subvant recording schedule which took place 04:37.240 --> 04:40.240 a little bit earlier in the evening than the normal. 04:40.240 --> 04:42.240 I just didn't get to bed on time. 04:42.240 --> 04:43.240 What can I say? 04:44.240 --> 04:48.240 By the time that the flight arrived was only like an hour after I normally would have gone 04:48.240 --> 04:49.240 gone to bed. 04:49.240 --> 04:51.240 So it just didn't work. 04:51.240 --> 04:56.240 And some weird people on the plane just exuding a weird vibe. 04:56.240 --> 05:02.240 Oh, one of them being Joan Rivers, well known in the United States and in the United 05:02.240 --> 05:03.240 Kingdom, of course. 05:03.240 --> 05:09.240 In fact, I think she furthered her career for many years in Britain before taking over 05:10.240 --> 05:12.240 tonight's show a couple times for Johnny Carson. 05:12.240 --> 05:14.240 Then she became a huge household name in the States. 05:14.240 --> 05:20.240 I've actually been on a couple of her talk shows in the in the MTV era, in the MTV 05:20.240 --> 05:21.240 days. 05:21.240 --> 05:25.240 And so she was she was kind of it was weird because she was city. 05:25.240 --> 05:27.240 I wasn't like a 10k. 05:27.240 --> 05:30.240 My seat is usually 12k or 11k or 10k. 05:30.240 --> 05:36.240 I like to be on the right hand side right across from the massage center in the 05:36.240 --> 05:39.240 Virginia upper class, which is so that means I'm not looking at other people. 05:39.240 --> 05:40.240 Other people aren't looking at me. 05:40.240 --> 05:44.240 The only person I can be looking at is the person who's actually getting a treatment. 05:44.240 --> 05:46.240 Which is nice because I can observe them. 05:46.240 --> 05:48.240 And so this is like a little island. 05:48.240 --> 05:52.240 And when we were aborting the plane and I was on pretty early and I was chill and 05:52.240 --> 05:53.240 reading a book. 05:53.240 --> 05:56.240 Joan Rivers is just circling around. 05:56.240 --> 05:59.240 You know, like she was almost like on a confessional just walking. 05:59.240 --> 06:02.240 And at first I was like, who's that man? 06:02.240 --> 06:05.240 That's that someone is having some problems walking. 06:05.240 --> 06:06.240 Oh, it's because she's old. 06:06.240 --> 06:07.240 Oh, my God. 06:07.240 --> 06:08.240 It's Joan Rivers. 06:08.240 --> 06:10.240 And the face was just amazing. 06:10.240 --> 06:13.240 And I couldn't help but stay. 06:13.240 --> 06:16.240 And I was kind of like peering over my glasses pretending to read my book. 06:16.240 --> 06:17.240 Now I've been on her show. 06:17.240 --> 06:19.240 So I think she recognized me. 06:19.240 --> 06:20.240 She didn't say anything. 06:20.240 --> 06:23.240 And it wasn't that moment where I could say, hey, Joan. 06:23.240 --> 06:26.240 But boy, oh boy, pretty frightening. 06:26.240 --> 06:28.240 And love the woman to death. 06:28.240 --> 06:29.240 She's in her 70s. 06:29.240 --> 06:31.240 I'm not quite sure how old she is. 06:31.240 --> 06:34.240 But the face lift is just an amazing piece of work. 06:35.240 --> 06:37.240 And she got a massage later. 06:37.240 --> 06:38.240 And I could see the girl. 06:38.240 --> 06:40.240 Massaging her very softly is nothing. 06:40.240 --> 06:43.240 Like, you know how my grandmother when she was. 06:43.240 --> 06:47.240 She passed away when she was 98 years old. 06:47.240 --> 06:49.240 Unbelievable. 06:49.240 --> 06:50.240 Lifetime. 06:50.240 --> 06:51.240 And my grandfather as well. 06:51.240 --> 06:53.240 Both of them passed very shortly. 06:53.240 --> 06:56.240 Very closely each other. 06:56.240 --> 07:00.240 And but, you know, I remember my grandmother's back in her 90s. 07:00.240 --> 07:02.240 And it looked just like Joan Rivers back. 07:02.240 --> 07:04.240 It was, it was just surprising. 07:04.240 --> 07:05.240 You know, we're all going to get old. 07:05.240 --> 07:06.240 And we're all going to look fucked up into crap. 07:06.240 --> 07:08.240 But it'll be the first one, of course. 07:08.240 --> 07:09.240 But, um, man. 07:09.240 --> 07:12.240 It was just nothing like the representation on television. 07:12.240 --> 07:15.240 I hadn't seen her in person in a long, long time. 07:15.240 --> 07:16.240 Anyway. 07:16.240 --> 07:17.240 So, no sleep. 07:17.240 --> 07:18.240 No rest for the week. 07:18.240 --> 07:19.240 I did chill a little bit on the. 07:19.240 --> 07:21.240 It was so beautiful when I came home. 07:21.240 --> 07:23.240 It was just spectacular weather. 07:23.240 --> 07:25.240 Very much like what I left in San Francisco. 07:25.240 --> 07:27.240 Only not as hot, which is nice. 07:27.240 --> 07:29.240 And today is another beautiful day. 07:29.240 --> 07:33.240 I've been looking at it that since I don't have to do, um, 07:33.240 --> 07:35.240 serious stuff in the morning on a time basis. 07:35.240 --> 07:38.240 I've actually gotten some life back this week. 07:38.240 --> 07:40.240 I'm going to do some flying in the mornings. 07:40.240 --> 07:42.240 I'm, uh, right after I dropped Christina off at school. 07:42.240 --> 07:44.240 I'm going to go over to, uh, to the airfield. 07:44.240 --> 07:46.240 I'm going to grab the Delta Sierra. 07:46.240 --> 07:48.240 And I'm just going to, you know, do a couple of circuits. 07:48.240 --> 07:49.240 Maybe I'll go down a goodwood. 07:49.240 --> 07:53.240 I just need to fly and I need to fly by myself and the weather is so perfect for it. 07:53.240 --> 07:54.240 So, and I'll do us. 07:54.240 --> 07:56.240 I'm sure, uh, let me get through tomorrow first. 07:56.240 --> 08:00.240 Because, you know, it's always little, uh, tense, you know, uh, intense, 08:00.240 --> 08:03.240 uh, flying again after a couple of weeks and, and flying with myself. 08:03.240 --> 08:06.240 And so let me just get my chops back and make sure everything's okay. 08:06.240 --> 08:08.240 And then I'll record a show. 08:08.240 --> 08:11.240 Well, uh, either flying a goodwood or doing some touching goes and, uh, 08:11.240 --> 08:13.240 we'll, we'll see if I can multitask. 08:13.240 --> 08:15.240 I'm stretch it at our night. 08:15.240 --> 08:17.240 Hey, today will be a savant-free Monday. 08:17.240 --> 08:22.240 Um, reason for it is, of course, uh, uh, just didn't really have time to come up with a topic. 08:22.240 --> 08:25.240 Think of a, uh, a savant to approach. 08:25.240 --> 08:29.240 So, today we will be talking about something which warns, uh, the help of many a savant. 08:29.240 --> 08:35.240 Some of whom I may know, but you may know some and, uh, we might even have to get some government officials involved. 08:35.240 --> 08:38.240 It's going to be, uh, yeah, it's going to be quite a big conversation. 08:38.240 --> 08:41.240 But the savants, it's definitely something that's catching on. 08:43.750 --> 09:17.240 [ Music ] 09:17.240 --> 09:21.240 If not now, then who? 09:21.240 --> 09:25.240 If not anyone who's gonna be a friend. 09:25.240 --> 09:27.240 Hey, Adam is Jason Jarrett. 09:27.240 --> 09:30.240 I'm just listening to the DSC on 590. 09:30.240 --> 09:33.240 Make the show just going from strength to strength. 09:33.240 --> 09:34.240 It's a great show. 09:34.240 --> 09:35.240 Have a great week. 09:35.240 --> 09:37.240 Cheers, Mike. 09:37.240 --> 09:38.240 Yeah, Jason. 09:38.240 --> 09:39.240 Thank you so much. 09:39.240 --> 09:41.240 Yeah, a lot of good response to the food bar Friday. 09:41.240 --> 09:46.240 So, uh, maybe we'll, uh, you know, I want to be careful not to get set in any certain format. 09:46.240 --> 09:52.240 It's, uh, it's dangerous, but I'd say nine out of ten people really love the savant segment. 09:52.240 --> 09:54.240 So, uh, I want to do more of that. 09:54.240 --> 09:59.240 Maybe I'll incorporate it more into, you know, in a flow and not have something at the set time in the show. 09:59.240 --> 10:03.240 I do want to get more people on the show and I love talking to people, uh, live. 10:03.240 --> 10:09.240 I love doing it unedited, trying to keep it short, trying to move the conversation along, 10:09.240 --> 10:10.240 keep it relevant. 10:10.240 --> 10:11.240 It's difficult. 10:11.240 --> 10:12.240 I have to be honest. 10:12.240 --> 10:16.240 It's, it's not easy to do, uh, but I'm enjoying it immensely. 10:16.240 --> 10:21.240 And the amount of people who are, um, uh, sending me emails and saying, look, I can be 10:21.240 --> 10:23.240 the savant of this or the savant of that. 10:23.240 --> 10:25.240 And check this one out. 10:25.240 --> 10:31.240 If somebody's, Sultan of savants, I humbly come before you to offer my services as an energy 10:31.240 --> 10:32.240 savant. 10:32.240 --> 10:35.240 As atomic rod atoms, I have worked hard to refine my craft. 10:35.240 --> 10:38.240 And I'd like to share my art with DSC listeners. 10:38.240 --> 10:42.240 I run a tiny company that is developing the ability to build emission-free, 10:42.240 --> 10:46.240 atomic engines safe enough and clean enough to be surrounded by people. 10:46.240 --> 10:51.240 We want to put them in a basement, so large buildings, install them on commercial ships, 10:51.240 --> 10:55.240 supply them to developing nations, and even build them in the backyards of certain 10:55.240 --> 10:57.240 affluent people. 10:57.240 --> 11:01.240 As you might imagine, I spent a lot of time trying to understand the competition, 11:01.240 --> 11:05.240 and the obstacles that are innovative company will face as we expand. 11:05.240 --> 11:10.240 I'm sure that a man, as worldly as you, can come up with dozens of interest in questions. 11:10.240 --> 11:13.240 You might be surprised and possibly entertained by the answers. 11:13.240 --> 11:16.240 I know it would have a better chance of getting this played. 11:16.240 --> 11:19.240 If I now insulted you, or cussed, or did something amusing? 11:19.240 --> 11:23.240 Instead, I will simply sign off with folder. 11:23.240 --> 11:25.240 No, an atomic rod. 11:25.240 --> 11:28.240 Not at all, man. Not insult. Are you kidding me? 11:28.240 --> 11:32.240 No, I want to know more about this. You know, we were in Los Angeles on Friday, 11:32.240 --> 11:37.240 Ron and I went for, I think, would it be a final meeting before we close a deal 11:37.240 --> 11:40.240 with the pretty interesting organization, which I'll be able to tell you about. 11:40.240 --> 11:43.240 Hopefully, this week, or certainly next week, 11:43.240 --> 11:45.240 shouldn't take too long to close everything up. 11:45.240 --> 11:49.240 It's a very interesting partnership we're entering into. 11:49.240 --> 11:55.240 So, when we're on the road, we really get a time to really just chat and shoot the 11:55.240 --> 11:58.240 shit and when you're on an airplane, you've got the time. 11:58.240 --> 12:03.240 You know, hanging out at, I don't just remember to say this about something about our trip back. 12:03.240 --> 12:08.240 And we had a really good conversation about alternative energy, 12:08.240 --> 12:14.240 and being, it started actually with our thoughts about 12:14.240 --> 12:21.240 the U.S. pulling out of Iraq and George Bush and dependent on oil. 12:21.240 --> 12:25.240 And I think that I'm going to have to invite Mr. Bloom as a sabond Tom, 12:25.240 --> 12:29.240 because it's great. Whenever we have, we can get pretty heated and heated conversations. 12:29.240 --> 12:33.240 We don't necessarily agree with each other on topics. 12:33.240 --> 12:35.240 But this was a good one. 12:35.240 --> 12:38.240 So, I'm definitely going to bring him on. 12:38.240 --> 12:42.240 And one of the things I said was, hey, you know, this atomic rod 12:42.240 --> 12:46.240 atoms, he's got these, you know, he has a company building nukes for your back yard, 12:46.240 --> 12:50.240 nuclear reactors, and I'm like, I totally would be, I'll be all over that. 12:50.240 --> 12:54.240 I'd love to try that out. And of course, Ron immediately says, oh, yeah, 12:54.240 --> 12:57.240 yeah, you'll be glowing green. 12:57.240 --> 13:01.240 You know, and I probably all stereotypical remarks about atomic energy about 13:01.240 --> 13:03.240 a danger and the waste and all that. 13:03.240 --> 13:05.240 So, we'll have to have atomic rod on as well. 13:05.240 --> 13:07.240 But today, it is completely savant free. 13:07.240 --> 13:10.240 Anyway, what I wanted to say is, so it was just a one day up and back trip. 13:11.240 --> 13:14.240 We took, I don't know, the United Shuttle or whatever it is. 13:14.240 --> 13:16.240 And on the way back, so we were a little bit early. 13:16.240 --> 13:17.240 We had a 330 flight. 13:17.240 --> 13:19.240 We were at the airport around 120. 13:19.240 --> 13:22.240 And we wanted to see if we'd get on the two o'clock shuttle. 13:22.240 --> 13:26.240 And because the automatic checking kiosk said, 13:26.240 --> 13:28.240 well, you could get on the three o'clock shuttle, 13:28.240 --> 13:31.240 but you know, you have to print out your tickets and go to the gate if you 13:31.240 --> 13:32.240 want to get an earlier shuttle. 13:32.240 --> 13:34.240 So, we printed out our boarding passes. 13:34.240 --> 13:37.240 And there was a huge line for the two o'clock flight. 13:37.240 --> 13:41.240 And it was like, I don't know, it must have been 50 or 75 school kids on some kind of 13:41.240 --> 13:44.240 excursion or convention they were going to. 13:44.240 --> 13:47.240 And so we're waiting in this line and it's taken a really long time. 13:47.240 --> 13:50.240 We're kind of debating, you know, should we get so we do even try and wait in this line, 13:50.240 --> 13:53.240 should we just get some of the eat and shoot the shit about stuff. 13:53.240 --> 13:54.240 And I see over to the right. 13:54.240 --> 13:56.240 I said, hey, look man, it's ice cube. 13:56.240 --> 13:58.240 You know, the wrapper ice cube. 13:58.240 --> 14:01.240 And he was kind of over in the corner with his, 14:01.240 --> 14:04.240 I guess his body guard or his guy is a minor. 14:05.240 --> 14:08.240 And so I'm looking at the situation right. 14:08.240 --> 14:11.240 And I'm like, we're desperately trying to get on this flight to get back earlier. 14:11.240 --> 14:14.240 There's set 50 to 75 school kids. 14:14.240 --> 14:15.240 And there's ice cube. 14:15.240 --> 14:18.240 And I said, Ron, I think we should step out of this line. 14:18.240 --> 14:20.240 I don't think we should try and get on this flight. 14:20.240 --> 14:21.240 And he says, why? 14:21.240 --> 14:23.240 I said, dude, think about it. 14:23.240 --> 14:25.240 This is always the flight that crashes. 14:25.240 --> 14:27.240 It has 75 school kids and ice cube. 14:27.240 --> 14:31.240 And if this thing crashes, we won't even mention in the fucking article. 14:31.240 --> 14:33.240 So we went home on the 330. 14:33.240 --> 14:34.240 Yeah, hi, y'all. 14:34.240 --> 14:36.240 I'm going to call on you on this thing here. 14:36.240 --> 14:39.240 And I hope I got the right number. 14:39.240 --> 14:42.240 I'm listening over there on that show. 14:42.240 --> 14:44.240 Now, I used to listen on that show. 14:44.240 --> 14:47.240 I told him that serious thing there. 14:47.240 --> 14:50.240 And all of a sudden, it's just just proof. 14:50.240 --> 14:52.240 Now, I don't know what right to come with that. 14:52.240 --> 14:56.240 But I tried to y'all in on my hand radio. 14:56.240 --> 14:59.240 And I can't eat y'all on that night. 14:59.240 --> 15:02.240 So I hope I got to know my number here. 15:02.240 --> 15:05.240 And this dude has signs. 15:05.240 --> 15:10.240 And what I was wanting to know is, that's here and all this stuff on the daily source 15:10.240 --> 15:19.240 and I don't know about how come you want to have so many servants on your show. 15:19.240 --> 15:25.240 Things like that's going to be a hard thing for you to come by is to find so many people 15:25.240 --> 15:30.240 who's wanting to, you know, just do what you want and say, you know, 15:30.240 --> 15:35.240 don't say what's wrong with the dude and all, but that's what I want to call. 15:35.240 --> 15:39.240 The reason I call is, I have a problem. 15:39.240 --> 15:46.240 Sometime when I'm listening to the show and I got to show loaded up on my iPod 15:46.240 --> 15:54.240 and I'm listening to it, it seems like it's coming in kind of softly. 15:54.240 --> 15:59.240 Anyway, I don't know if that makes much sense or if it's because I need to 15:59.240 --> 16:02.240 get a new something or other. 16:02.240 --> 16:07.240 But if I need to get a new something or other, I hope you give me a call because I 16:07.240 --> 16:12.240 could probably help you be a servant in that regard anyway. 16:12.240 --> 16:18.240 I sure do listen to them shows and I shall do appreciate them. 16:18.240 --> 16:24.240 And if you won't play this, you've got my permission to do it, I guess. 16:24.240 --> 16:32.240 But what I want to say is, how come when I'm listening to that show and 16:32.240 --> 16:40.240 talking about servants is, is it sounds kind of funny? 16:40.240 --> 16:42.240 I don't know. 16:42.240 --> 16:48.240 And it seems like you want to talk a lot on there about toilet paper and things 16:48.240 --> 16:53.240 and scratching and folding and all that. 16:53.240 --> 16:54.240 Yeah. 16:54.240 --> 16:55.240 I don't get it. 16:55.240 --> 16:57.240 I don't understand. 16:57.240 --> 17:02.240 But y'all keep up the good work there and I'm going to listen for you over their own 17:02.240 --> 17:03.240 series. 17:03.240 --> 17:08.240 I hope y'all come back on there because I listen to that and I let my 17:08.240 --> 17:13.240 water listen to that and we sing y'all there. 17:13.240 --> 17:16.240 Y'all keep listening to that as you know. 17:16.240 --> 17:18.240 And it's dirt hard for us. 17:18.240 --> 17:20.240 I talk to you sometimes. 17:21.240 --> 17:23.240 Well, there you have it. 17:23.240 --> 17:26.240 That was the serious satellite radio listener, I guess. 17:26.240 --> 17:30.240 That's the first response I've received from any. 17:30.240 --> 17:32.240 That's so fucking sad. 17:32.240 --> 17:37.240 Please don't tell me that we were doing that show and no one was listening. 17:37.240 --> 17:40.240 That would be, that would just be so disappointing. 17:40.240 --> 17:41.240 There's no numbers. 17:41.240 --> 17:42.240 There's no arbitron. 17:42.240 --> 17:43.240 There's no rating. 17:43.240 --> 17:46.240 There's no surveys to know who's listening to what. 17:46.240 --> 17:49.240 But that is the first response I got. 17:49.240 --> 17:53.240 I'm not quite sure that our redneck savant was was real. 17:53.240 --> 17:54.240 Hey Adam. 17:54.240 --> 17:56.240 Eric's mother here. 17:56.240 --> 18:00.240 Oh boy, you remember I had that little conversation with Eric and 18:00.240 --> 18:04.240 and as a girlfriend both in the Jersey boys cast. 18:04.240 --> 18:05.240 Mm-hmm. 18:05.240 --> 18:09.240 Oh boy, we're always proposing all kinds of things of a sexual nature. 18:09.240 --> 18:11.240 Well, here's Eric Bergen's mom. 18:11.240 --> 18:15.240 Oh, no, and as Allison Lee, the host of craft cast. 18:15.240 --> 18:16.240 Not scrap cast. 18:16.240 --> 18:17.240 No, yeah, I screwed that up. 18:17.240 --> 18:18.240 I'm sorry about that. 18:18.240 --> 18:19.240 Craft cast. 18:19.240 --> 18:21.240 Scrap cast is cool too though. 18:21.240 --> 18:23.240 Nothing wrong with scrap cast. 18:23.240 --> 18:24.240 Actually enjoy scrap cast. 18:24.240 --> 18:26.240 It's on your podjo network. 18:26.240 --> 18:28.240 But on the host of craft cast. 18:28.240 --> 18:29.240 Got it. 18:29.240 --> 18:30.240 Got it. 18:30.240 --> 18:32.240 So, sorry I missed you and San Francisco. 18:32.240 --> 18:35.240 I was hoping to be there when Eric did that interview with you. 18:35.240 --> 18:38.240 I'm looking forward to hearing that on Green Room Radio. 18:38.240 --> 18:41.240 And yes, aren't they adorable? 18:41.240 --> 18:42.240 Little love birds out there. 18:42.240 --> 18:43.240 They sure are here. 18:44.240 --> 18:46.240 And they show up Jersey boys. 18:46.240 --> 18:50.240 And it was so much fun getting to hear them on your show. 18:50.240 --> 18:53.240 And I have one other, I have a suggestion at them. 18:53.240 --> 18:54.240 Please, please, please. 18:54.240 --> 18:59.240 Can you put a channel on podjo network for the crafter? 18:59.240 --> 19:01.240 Could be under an art category? 19:01.240 --> 19:03.240 It's a huge category out there. 19:03.240 --> 19:07.240 And it'd be great to, you know, take advantage of that. 19:07.240 --> 19:09.240 So, that'd be really fabulous. 19:09.240 --> 19:10.240 Appreciate it. 19:10.240 --> 19:15.240 So, I look forward to maybe I'll run into an LA when everyone's out there. 19:15.240 --> 19:18.240 Yes, that show is going to Los Angeles. 19:18.240 --> 19:19.240 Fair exciting. 19:19.240 --> 19:21.240 Big opening in there on May. 19:21.240 --> 19:23.240 And, um, and that's it. 19:23.240 --> 19:25.240 I'm forward to talking to you again soon. 19:25.240 --> 19:26.240 Take care. 19:26.240 --> 19:27.240 Bye. 19:27.240 --> 19:28.240 Thanks, fellas. 19:28.240 --> 19:32.240 Well, so here's, uh, here's something interesting about your request. 19:32.240 --> 19:35.240 Now, first of all, you know, that we're cranking up this help podjo 19:35.240 --> 19:37.240 suckless campaign. 19:37.240 --> 19:40.240 And I believe the beginning of the month. 19:40.240 --> 19:43.240 So, or the first week, so that's this week and next week. 19:43.240 --> 19:49.240 Uh, we're coming up with a pretty exciting opportunity for you to really help us suck less. 19:49.240 --> 19:54.240 Um, and in a little more structured manner than all of the fantastic emails and PDF files, 19:54.240 --> 19:57.240 as well, people are creating entire presentations of how we can be better. 19:57.240 --> 19:59.240 I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. 19:59.240 --> 20:03.240 Most of it, of course, focuses on the play button, the XML buttons. 20:03.240 --> 20:04.240 I mean, all that stuff. 20:04.240 --> 20:06.240 We think we can take this a couple steps further. 20:06.240 --> 20:14.240 You know, first of all, it's not like we're unaware of stuff that's confusing, not right, 20:14.240 --> 20:16.240 illogical, et cetera, et cetera. 20:16.240 --> 20:23.240 This program is brought to you by TythonLPM. 20:23.240 --> 20:28.240 Check out AngieB's unwinded on wine.potjo.com. 20:28.240 --> 20:32.240 Now what you can do, dear Allison, and this is one of the things that's manual right now, 20:32.240 --> 20:35.240 we're going to turn this into a more of an automatic feature. 20:35.240 --> 20:37.240 You can create your own channel. 20:37.240 --> 20:43.240 You may know this already, but give it a try, um, by going into your, uh, into your collection, 20:43.240 --> 20:48.240 and any, uh, podshow, any podcast, in fact, that you can find anywhere, you know, 20:48.240 --> 20:52.240 just search for it throughout the network, you can add that to your channel. 20:52.240 --> 20:57.240 So why don't you build a craft crafting channel, whatever you want to call it, 20:57.240 --> 20:59.240 and then we can promote that to the program guide, 20:59.240 --> 21:03.240 and then you will, in fact, you will effectively be maintaining that channel. 21:03.240 --> 21:06.240 And part of the upgrade that we're going to be doing, the next release will be, uh, 21:06.240 --> 21:10.240 these channels will be propping, you know, we'll have that on channel pages. 21:10.240 --> 21:12.240 You may have seen the new channel module. 21:12.240 --> 21:14.240 If you haven't, you need to check this out. 21:14.240 --> 21:20.240 It's really an awesome way to manage, uh, your shows that you listen to, um, 21:20.240 --> 21:24.240 you can, uh, you can also manage the order that there are all kinds of stuff that, uh, 21:24.240 --> 21:27.240 that is already good and stuff that is even better still coming. 21:27.240 --> 21:31.240 But do that, Allison, let me know about it because then we can promote that into a program guide, 21:31.240 --> 21:35.240 and we can, make that a, uh, channel, and it will be, you know, like something that 21:35.240 --> 21:38.240 will be promoted throughout the network, but you can continue to maintain it. 21:38.240 --> 21:42.240 So if you feel a show should be in that channel, or if you feel a show no longer belongs 21:42.240 --> 21:44.240 in the channel, you'll be the one that's controlling it. 21:44.240 --> 21:48.240 So, um, please, please help us out. 21:49.240 --> 22:04.240 Okay, so you don't need to be sending in any more emails. 22:04.240 --> 22:06.240 I think we pretty much got it. 22:06.240 --> 22:13.240 We have an entire survey that consists of, uh, I don't know how many questions it is. 22:13.240 --> 22:15.240 Um, it's a lot, actually. 22:15.240 --> 22:20.240 And if you, uh, participate in the panel, this is going to be a gigantic survey, 22:20.240 --> 22:27.240 not only will you help pod show suckless, but you'll also win points with which you can get free stuff. 22:27.240 --> 22:31.240 I don't think this guy was pick up a Ferrari doing that. 22:31.240 --> 22:33.240 So stay tuned, you'll hear about it on the show. 22:46.240 --> 22:51.240 And we're here and says hi, Adam. 22:51.240 --> 22:53.240 I've been listening with much amusement to your headphone issues. 22:53.240 --> 22:57.240 And after you're description of, uh, what you now go through to avoid the headphone 22:57.240 --> 22:58.240 earlobe problem. 22:58.240 --> 23:01.240 I think it's time to pass on details of the ones I use. 23:01.240 --> 23:04.240 I myself have fairly big ears and hates. 23:04.240 --> 23:06.240 I hadn't even considered that. 23:06.240 --> 23:08.240 And hate smaller headphones that press on my ears. 23:08.240 --> 23:12.240 But a year ago, friend turned me onto the Senheiser HD 555 model. 23:12.240 --> 23:14.240 I strongly recommend you give them a try. 23:14.240 --> 23:15.240 They're open headphones. 23:15.240 --> 23:18.240 They leak a bit of noise and don't block out all outside noise. 23:18.240 --> 23:21.240 But the airpiece is large enough to fit my entire ear inside. 23:21.240 --> 23:24.240 As an angled speaker, so my ear barely touches anything once they're on. 23:24.240 --> 23:26.240 And the padding has a very nice velvety texture. 23:26.240 --> 23:28.240 Very familiar with these Senheiser headphones. 23:28.240 --> 23:30.240 Um, again, here's the problem. 23:30.240 --> 23:37.240 Um, I need to have a closed off system because I use compression on my microphone. 23:37.240 --> 23:38.240 Now, what does that mean? 23:38.240 --> 23:44.240 It is intended to pull up softer, uh, noise and level it out with louder noise, 23:44.240 --> 23:46.240 which, of course, it limits down a bit. 23:46.240 --> 23:49.240 So if I were to have an open headphone like such, you see, 23:49.240 --> 23:53.240 I'm only just opening my headphone a little bit, just the tiniest bit 23:53.240 --> 23:56.240 and you already hear it starts to feed back. 23:56.240 --> 24:03.240 So, um, I will try a Patricia has a set of AKGs, the 271s, 24:03.240 --> 24:07.240 which I've just huge, um, uh, what do you call them? 24:07.240 --> 24:12.240 Uh, earpieces. 24:12.240 --> 24:15.240 So they would fit probably quite comfortably. 24:15.240 --> 24:18.240 But the really the problem is it fits over the ear, 24:18.240 --> 24:20.240 but then it's right underneath the earlobe, 24:20.240 --> 24:23.240 which is where, you know, it's basically rubbing. 24:23.240 --> 24:26.240 And that's what causes the irritation, 24:26.240 --> 24:27.240 bacteria gets in there. 24:27.240 --> 24:28.240 Of course, these headphones. 24:28.240 --> 24:30.240 And now I'm also cleaning my headphones. 24:30.240 --> 24:32.240 I should do, you know, you get like a hygiene kit. 24:32.240 --> 24:34.240 I have that from, uh, from the aircraft, 24:34.240 --> 24:36.240 including the aircraft headphones, all that stuff. 24:36.240 --> 24:38.240 It's really important. 24:38.240 --> 24:40.240 So I am kind of looking for the ultimate headphones. 24:40.240 --> 24:42.240 And here's another, uh, another example. 24:42.240 --> 24:47.240 Hi Adam, it's AG here again about your headphone problem. 24:47.240 --> 24:51.240 I think what's happening is that, uh, if you're using headphones 24:51.240 --> 24:55.240 for a long period, this can cause a lot of discomfort 24:55.240 --> 25:00.240 and a guy like you ought to have the best headphones in the world. 25:00.240 --> 25:04.240 So I would suggest you take a look at greater labs headphones 25:04.240 --> 25:08.240 at golf, a Romeo, Alpha, Delta, Oscar. 25:08.240 --> 25:11.240 I've used them now for several months, 25:11.240 --> 25:13.240 and I just wouldn't go back. 25:13.240 --> 25:17.240 Normally with headphones to increase the base response 25:17.240 --> 25:19.240 and the possibility also the loudness. 25:19.240 --> 25:23.240 You need to clamp them to your head by pressing your hands 25:23.240 --> 25:25.240 against them with greater labs. 25:25.240 --> 25:28.240 If you do that, you get a totally opposite result. 25:29.240 --> 25:33.240 They were best when the equalizer is turned off. 25:33.240 --> 25:37.240 They're not great to look at, but boy, do they perform better 25:37.240 --> 25:40.240 than any other headphones I've used? 25:40.240 --> 25:41.240 Hope that helps. 25:41.240 --> 25:42.240 Alright man, thank you. 25:42.240 --> 25:44.240 And I did check out great old labs that looked at the headset. 25:44.240 --> 25:46.240 I'm not going to have to find a place where I can try them out 25:46.240 --> 25:49.240 because again, they are not closed headphones 25:49.240 --> 25:50.240 so they don't fit over the ear. 25:50.240 --> 25:53.240 They are large, and they do have really big padding 25:53.240 --> 25:57.240 so and there's very directional speakers in the headphones. 25:57.240 --> 26:00.240 And they kind of look like, these things look like the roles 26:00.240 --> 26:02.240 of the voice of headphones. 26:02.240 --> 26:05.240 So besides the fact that they'll probably have a fantastic sound, 26:05.240 --> 26:07.240 which is I don't really care about the sound. 26:07.240 --> 26:09.240 It doesn't have to sound all that good. 26:09.240 --> 26:11.240 It's important, but you know what I'm saying. 26:11.240 --> 26:13.240 That's just my reference. 26:13.240 --> 26:14.240 As long as it sounds good for you, 26:14.240 --> 26:16.240 but it really has to close off that sound 26:16.240 --> 26:17.240 so we don't get the feedback. 26:17.240 --> 26:19.240 So I'll see if I can find a place in London. 26:19.240 --> 26:22.240 I'm going on Friday to Big Smoke. 26:22.240 --> 26:25.240 Because I guess who's going to meet me at two o'clock 26:25.240 --> 26:28.240 at the UK crash pad or the shortage office? 26:28.240 --> 26:29.240 Oh, yes. 26:29.240 --> 26:31.240 Comics trip blogger's going to be there. 26:31.240 --> 26:33.240 We're finally going to meet in person. 26:33.240 --> 26:34.240 Hey Adam, it's Mark. 26:34.240 --> 26:37.240 I just wanted to comment real quickly on the whole Alec Baldwin thing. 26:37.240 --> 26:40.240 Now, I don't condone this type of behavior to a child. 26:40.240 --> 26:42.240 But in the case of Alec Baldwin, 26:42.240 --> 26:45.240 I do understand a little bit where it's coming from 26:45.240 --> 26:49.240 because he, like any of us, is a product of his environment. 26:49.240 --> 26:52.240 And that environment happens to be the entertainment industry 26:52.240 --> 26:54.240 where this type of discourse happens all the time 26:54.240 --> 26:58.240 ranging from topics such as why didn't my car pick me up on time 26:58.240 --> 27:02.240 to why is there no vanilla pudding at the craft services table? 27:02.240 --> 27:04.240 And I'm not even kidding about this. 27:04.240 --> 27:06.240 So you have somebody like Alec Baldwin who's just coming off 27:06.240 --> 27:08.240 a reasonably hit show 30 rock, 27:08.240 --> 27:10.240 which has already been renewed for the fall. 27:10.240 --> 27:14.240 So he knows he has a job that starts back up sometime in June. 27:14.240 --> 27:17.240 And during his hiatus, he's shooting a movie. 27:17.240 --> 27:20.240 So he has very limited time to do that. 27:20.240 --> 27:23.240 And the movie, of course, I'm sure they've scheduled 27:23.240 --> 27:25.240 around his availability. 27:25.240 --> 27:28.240 But that means they're probably shooting really long days. 27:28.240 --> 27:32.240 And his ability to actually go and pick up a phone 27:32.240 --> 27:35.240 and call his family, well, that's got to be scheduled 27:35.240 --> 27:36.240 into his day. 27:36.240 --> 27:38.240 And I'm probably way ahead at the time. 27:38.240 --> 27:41.240 So it's got to be very frustrating when you have something 27:41.240 --> 27:44.240 a very long, you know, 12, 16 hour day on the set. 27:44.240 --> 27:46.240 And you have a small window of opportunity 27:46.240 --> 27:48.240 to actually talk to somebody that you love 27:48.240 --> 27:50.240 and they're not there. 27:50.240 --> 27:53.240 People that with the standard behavior of any pre-teen girl 27:53.240 --> 27:56.240 and Alec's acrimonious relationship 27:56.240 --> 27:59.240 with the girl's kuku bird mother, Kim Bassinger 27:59.240 --> 28:01.240 and the pressure of shooting a movie. 28:01.240 --> 28:04.240 Well, you know, I think you have your external influences 28:04.240 --> 28:05.240 right there. 28:05.240 --> 28:07.240 So in my humble opinion, you know, 28:07.240 --> 28:10.240 pointing a finger at Alec Baldwin for this type of behavior 28:10.240 --> 28:13.240 is very much like pointing a finger at American tourists 28:13.240 --> 28:16.240 in Europe for acting like, well, Americans or pointing the finger 28:16.240 --> 28:19.240 at somebody from Arkansas when they come over to your house 28:19.240 --> 28:21.240 at F-Sex with your livestock. 28:21.240 --> 28:23.240 But that's beside the point. 28:23.240 --> 28:25.240 In my experience, most actors are babies. 28:25.240 --> 28:27.240 And oftentimes, you have to shrug off their 28:27.240 --> 28:31.240 aberrant behavior as diminished capacity. 28:31.240 --> 28:35.240 And while I'm no Alec Baldwin apologist by any means, 28:35.240 --> 28:37.240 though what he did was wrong, 28:37.240 --> 28:40.240 I think whoever leaked this voicemail to the press 28:40.240 --> 28:43.240 did something even more wrong and even more hurtful 28:43.240 --> 28:46.240 to that little girl in the long run. 28:46.240 --> 28:47.240 But there's Hollywood for you. 28:47.240 --> 28:50.240 And if you like this kind of childish Hollywood behavior, 28:50.240 --> 28:52.240 you can go pick up a copy of my book 28:52.240 --> 28:53.240 where's my fucking latte. 28:53.240 --> 28:56.240 And other stories about being an assistant in Hollywood 28:56.240 --> 29:00.240 comes out May 15th available now on Amazon for pre-order. 29:00.240 --> 29:02.240 Thanks Adam, I'll get you later. 29:02.240 --> 29:03.240 You're such a sleaze mark. 29:03.240 --> 29:06.240 I can't believe you really have been going there with that comment. 29:06.240 --> 29:08.240 I'm like, okay, Mark's got an opinion. 29:08.240 --> 29:11.240 And all it was is just a wind up to promote your freaking book. 29:11.240 --> 29:13.240 Which, by the way, is a pretty good book 29:13.240 --> 29:16.240 because I did read it on the plane going out the San Francisco. 29:17.240 --> 29:19.240 Yeah, what's your basically saying 29:19.240 --> 29:22.240 what Robin and Susanne said? 29:22.240 --> 29:25.240 A lot of stuff is going on Alec's life, 29:25.240 --> 29:27.240 and he wasn't completely focused. 29:27.240 --> 29:28.240 You know, kids are kids, man. 29:28.240 --> 29:30.240 They do shitty stupid stuff. 29:30.240 --> 29:32.240 They really do. 29:32.240 --> 29:35.240 Hey, I got a voicemail from my daughter. 29:35.240 --> 29:36.240 I got a play for you. 29:36.240 --> 29:37.240 I'll do that tomorrow. 29:37.240 --> 29:38.240 Okay. 29:38.240 --> 29:40.240 Because right now, I want to take a few minutes away. 29:40.240 --> 29:42.240 Actually, something else. 29:42.240 --> 29:43.240 This is, 29:44.240 --> 29:47.240 so I was getting ready to leave on Saturday. 29:47.240 --> 29:50.240 I always take the Saturday flight and I arrive on Sunday. 29:50.240 --> 29:53.240 That's kind of the way it works with international time travel. 29:53.240 --> 29:57.240 And I listened to a lot of podcast. 29:57.240 --> 29:59.240 You know, if people wonder how come I never go out to dinner, 29:59.240 --> 30:02.240 how come I never show up at clubs, at premieres, 30:02.240 --> 30:04.240 at all these swanky things, 30:04.240 --> 30:07.240 it's, well, not only do I no longer get invited, 30:07.240 --> 30:10.240 but it's also because I'm, 30:10.240 --> 30:12.240 I'm doing my job. 30:12.240 --> 30:14.240 I'm listening to stuff. 30:14.240 --> 30:16.240 I'm trying to feel how our network sounds. 30:16.240 --> 30:18.240 I want to see what other people are doing. 30:18.240 --> 30:19.240 What's the vibe? 30:19.240 --> 30:21.240 What's the zeitgeist? 30:21.240 --> 30:24.240 And one of the shows I listen to is show girls. 30:24.240 --> 30:26.240 Now, this is a very interesting project. 30:26.240 --> 30:30.240 It, it kind of started organically. 30:30.240 --> 30:33.240 I mean, my mind will just get the show girls page here. 30:33.240 --> 30:34.240 Hold on a second. 30:34.240 --> 30:36.240 Let me, it's, 30:36.240 --> 30:42.240 I was at some shirts showgirls.punchow.com. 30:42.240 --> 30:44.240 That's, well, make sure I don't miss, 30:44.240 --> 30:46.240 miss represented who's on the show. 30:46.240 --> 30:48.240 I think it came together at, 30:48.240 --> 30:52.240 the podcast new media expo either last year, 30:52.240 --> 30:53.240 the year before. 30:53.240 --> 30:55.240 It was, it's been building. 30:55.240 --> 30:57.240 And essentially, it's a combination of, 30:57.240 --> 31:01.240 a pod show affiliated female podcasters 31:01.240 --> 31:02.240 and Frank McMahon, 31:02.240 --> 31:03.240 who, of course, 31:04.240 --> 31:06.240 produces room-a-girls uncut. 31:06.240 --> 31:08.240 And here we go. 31:08.240 --> 31:10.240 Each episode of Cali Lewis, 31:10.240 --> 31:11.240 from Geet Brief TV, 31:11.240 --> 31:13.240 share from Rock and Roll TV, 31:13.240 --> 31:15.240 KFC, from the pod check podcast. 31:15.240 --> 31:17.240 So I don't think it's actually on the network anymore. 31:17.240 --> 31:19.240 Angie B, from the chill cast, 31:19.240 --> 31:21.240 soccer girl from soccer girl incorporated 31:21.240 --> 31:24.240 and Carla and Karen from room-a-girls, 31:24.240 --> 31:25.240 along with Franklin McMahon, 31:25.240 --> 31:28.240 and they bring insights into everything from world events, 31:28.240 --> 31:30.240 entertainment technology, as well as behind the scenes. 31:30.240 --> 31:31.240 Okay. 31:31.240 --> 31:33.240 It's a fun show because you hear, 31:33.240 --> 31:35.240 it's kind of like, 31:35.240 --> 31:37.240 in a way it's like the view. 31:37.240 --> 31:39.240 Only it's all done through Skype, 31:39.240 --> 31:41.240 so it's a little tougher to 31:41.240 --> 31:45.240 instigate a real conversation amongst the participants. 31:45.240 --> 31:48.240 But Frank has a really good job of kind of, 31:48.240 --> 31:50.240 it's more like McLaughlin group. 31:50.240 --> 31:52.240 There you go, Frank. 31:52.240 --> 31:55.240 Frank really manages the conversation. 31:55.240 --> 31:57.240 It's really interesting because women 31:57.240 --> 31:59.240 often have a different perspective on things from men, 31:59.240 --> 32:01.240 who are in joy listening to it immensely. 32:01.240 --> 32:03.240 So Saturday, I'm listening to the most recent episode, 32:03.240 --> 32:04.240 episode number six. 32:04.240 --> 32:06.240 And then listen to what I hear. 32:06.240 --> 32:08.240 Yeah, the pod show has a current limit. 32:08.240 --> 32:11.240 I'm hoping they're going to be upgraded this week, 32:11.240 --> 32:12.240 and they have it. 32:12.240 --> 32:14.240 Right now, just happened today. 32:14.240 --> 32:16.240 Yeah, they have a limit on. 32:16.240 --> 32:18.240 So now that we're doing HD, 32:18.240 --> 32:19.240 and Apple TV and stuff, 32:19.240 --> 32:20.240 the shows are getting bigger. 32:20.240 --> 32:21.240 Yeah. 32:21.240 --> 32:23.240 That's many people here. 32:23.240 --> 32:24.240 We'll be affected by it. 32:24.240 --> 32:26.240 In fact, we should all. 32:26.240 --> 32:28.240 We should all complain about it over there, huh? 32:28.240 --> 32:29.240 What are you saying? 32:29.240 --> 32:30.240 There's a limit on something? 32:30.240 --> 32:31.240 Well, it's true. 32:31.240 --> 32:32.240 Yeah. 32:32.240 --> 32:33.240 I think it's 200 megabyte, 32:33.240 --> 32:36.240 which is, I mean, if you're doing MP3s in audio, 32:36.240 --> 32:39.240 and smaller like 5, 10-minute videos, 32:39.240 --> 32:40.240 it's fine. 32:40.240 --> 32:43.240 But once you get into like higher res and Apple TV, 32:43.240 --> 32:45.240 format and longer shows, 32:45.240 --> 32:47.240 you upload a pod show. 32:47.240 --> 32:48.240 It uploads, 32:48.240 --> 32:49.240 but it doesn't take. 32:49.240 --> 32:51.240 It doesn't actually go the distance. 32:51.240 --> 32:52.240 Yeah, wow. 32:52.240 --> 32:54.240 It could do is give you an error message 32:54.240 --> 32:55.240 or warn you beforehand. 32:55.240 --> 32:57.240 It could totally stay like, you know, 32:57.240 --> 32:59.240 no files over 200 MB. 32:59.240 --> 33:00.240 You know, they'll be easy, 33:00.240 --> 33:02.240 but no, just says nothing. 33:02.240 --> 33:04.240 Hey, let's all complain. 33:04.240 --> 33:05.240 Yeah. 33:05.240 --> 33:06.240 It's working on it. 33:06.240 --> 33:07.240 It's all complain. 33:07.240 --> 33:08.240 Let's all complain. 33:08.240 --> 33:09.240 It's like two minutes. 33:09.240 --> 33:11.240 It's like, let's all complain. 33:11.240 --> 33:12.240 Let's not complain. 33:12.240 --> 33:14.240 You know, I'm all for, you know, 33:14.240 --> 33:16.240 it's amazing that the listeners 33:16.240 --> 33:18.240 are more productive, 33:18.240 --> 33:19.240 proactive, 33:19.240 --> 33:22.240 and inspiring than these women 33:22.240 --> 33:24.240 when it comes to helping pod show suck less. 33:24.240 --> 33:25.240 You know, 33:25.240 --> 33:27.240 first of all, 33:27.240 --> 33:28.240 an upload limit, 33:28.240 --> 33:30.240 which was chosen at random, 33:30.240 --> 33:32.240 many, many moons ago, 33:32.240 --> 33:35.240 200 MB was indeed quite an amazing amount 33:35.240 --> 33:37.240 per episode availability 33:37.240 --> 33:40.240 for upload and storage space 33:40.240 --> 33:43.240 before there was any HD or Apple TV. 33:43.240 --> 33:46.240 And it's quite easy for us to up that limit. 33:46.240 --> 33:48.240 I don't believe any other service 33:48.240 --> 33:50.240 allows you to upload that much. 33:50.240 --> 33:51.240 And there's a couple of reasons for it. 33:51.240 --> 33:53.240 The main one being you don't want to, 33:54.240 --> 33:55.240 you know, hand out like a gigabyte 33:55.240 --> 33:57.240 because that's exactly what people, 33:57.240 --> 33:58.240 or even 500 megs, 33:58.240 --> 34:00.240 people can store an entire movie there. 34:00.240 --> 34:02.240 But that's just one minor problem. 34:02.240 --> 34:05.240 Also, it's not completely free. 34:05.240 --> 34:07.240 You know, if you do go ahead, 34:07.240 --> 34:09.240 buy a 50 gig, 34:09.240 --> 34:11.240 buy a 100 gig hard drive. 34:11.240 --> 34:13.240 So after X amount of episodes, 34:13.240 --> 34:14.240 your hard drive will be full. 34:14.240 --> 34:15.240 You can calculate the price. 34:15.240 --> 34:16.240 It costs actual money, 34:16.240 --> 34:18.240 but it's certainly willing to consider it. 34:18.240 --> 34:20.240 In fact, I've already asked for the 34:20.240 --> 34:22.240 allotment to be up. 34:22.240 --> 34:25.240 My general feeling is let's make it 500 megabytes. 34:25.240 --> 34:27.240 But what just really earned me, 34:27.240 --> 34:28.240 you know, 34:28.240 --> 34:29.240 let's all complain. 34:29.240 --> 34:30.240 Let's complain. 34:30.240 --> 34:32.240 Why don't you be productive? 34:32.240 --> 34:34.240 It's not complaining. 34:34.240 --> 34:36.240 Like we're evil. 34:36.240 --> 34:37.240 And oh, 34:37.240 --> 34:39.240 you could have at least given that some, 34:39.240 --> 34:40.240 is that Angie B? 34:40.240 --> 34:42.240 It's unbelievable, Angie. 34:42.240 --> 34:43.240 Ah. 34:43.240 --> 34:45.240 Okay, hold on. 34:45.240 --> 34:46.240 I'm just getting worked up here 34:46.240 --> 34:48.240 because the real anger is about to come. 34:48.240 --> 34:49.240 Okay. 34:49.240 --> 34:50.240 Address is quoted from a bucket. 34:50.240 --> 34:53.240 I was doing some web surfing with weekend. 34:53.240 --> 34:55.240 I saw a story that just scared the hell out of me, 34:55.240 --> 34:57.240 and I thought I should give you a call about it. 34:57.240 --> 34:58.240 It's a story that was, 34:58.240 --> 34:59.240 and it was, 34:59.240 --> 35:02.240 and it was in daily chaos in a couple of other places 35:02.240 --> 35:03.240 about the I, 35:03.240 --> 35:06.240 and their royalty collection system. 35:06.240 --> 35:09.240 How they're collecting royalties now. 35:09.240 --> 35:11.240 With a compressor, 35:11.240 --> 35:12.240 can say, 35:12.240 --> 35:14.240 compulsory license, 35:14.240 --> 35:16.240 which means that they connect, 35:16.240 --> 35:19.240 like life is now for sounds that are even given, 35:19.240 --> 35:20.240 given from, 35:20.240 --> 35:25.240 are they even good permission to have their music played royalties free, 35:25.240 --> 35:26.240 that are collecting music, 35:26.240 --> 35:29.240 and then the artists are asked to register with the I, 35:29.240 --> 35:30.240 to get their money. 35:30.240 --> 35:31.240 But they're just holding this money, 35:31.240 --> 35:33.240 and the I, 35:33.240 --> 35:36.240 is trying to collect it on anything, 35:36.240 --> 35:38.240 on any kind of streamed music, 35:38.240 --> 35:39.240 so we don't have a choice. 35:39.240 --> 35:41.240 They sound like the story could be, 35:41.240 --> 35:43.240 or it is about like this whole system, 35:43.240 --> 35:44.240 makes it sound, 35:44.240 --> 35:47.600 makes you tell us we can't ever have toxic music and that scares the hell out of 35:47.600 --> 35:52.800 maybe can I'm sure that does for a lot of podcasters use the podzic music that work music 35:52.800 --> 35:57.200 does we know that those are some already given their permission to allow us to play the music 35:57.200 --> 36:00.800 I don't mean to sit here you're thought to bother and I thought just bring us to your 36:00.800 --> 36:04.800 attention and if we can start a conversation about it it does set it we should be calling 36:04.800 --> 36:09.680 our our Congressional representative is because it's the GAMPS can see what the RAA is doing 36:09.680 --> 36:13.120 if all the smoke they're collecting from these artists who brought you in their permission 36:13.120 --> 36:18.560 they don't want their royalty collected so I'm like some of getting screwed here if I 36:18.560 --> 36:24.400 some of the co-incularism so I'm potentially I'm thicker yeah go excuse me Corey thank you so 36:24.400 --> 36:29.120 much and I received several emails about this and you know my previous conversation with 36:29.120 --> 36:38.000 Doc Serals about web radio and the copyright royalty boards legal win I believe which 36:38.560 --> 36:45.200 goes into effect on the 15th of May which I understood to be a different form of pricing 36:45.200 --> 36:50.400 for licensed music and you know my stance on that it's like okay these guys own their music 36:50.400 --> 36:55.680 if they want to jack up the rates for other people to use it in novel ways such as web radio 36:55.680 --> 37:02.480 so be it you know that's the it's applying demand so they're going to diminish their the demand 37:02.480 --> 37:08.960 for this stuff and because of the because the prices just too high so and I'm okay with that you know 37:08.960 --> 37:14.560 it's a bummer and I wish that I could play all kinds of all these some I have been able to get 37:14.560 --> 37:19.520 away with because I know the owners of all the copyright but most things that I'd like to play 37:19.520 --> 37:24.560 now and if I've played it then I've totally broken the law and I'm quite aware of it but what was 37:24.560 --> 37:28.880 pointed out so two things first of all I always thought it was daily cost but didn't make so much 37:28.880 --> 37:35.360 sense now so the daily chaos but it spelled Delta Alpha India Lima Yankee Kilo Oscar Sierra 37:37.040 --> 37:44.000 really delved into this this new rate hike and found something very interesting it appears that 37:44.000 --> 37:49.920 sound exchange which is it's members are several large labels and one or two large independent 37:49.920 --> 37:59.440 labels who are members of the RIA have received a statutory and compulsory license or that they are 38:00.640 --> 38:07.040 they are allowed to enforce a statutory statutory compulsory license which means 38:08.240 --> 38:13.440 and let me just quote something from the article here let's see this two quotes I should give you 38:13.440 --> 38:17.680 the recent US copyright office ruling regarding web casting designated sound exchange to 38:17.680 --> 38:22.480 collect and distribute to all nonmembers as well as its members the library of Congress issued 38:22.480 --> 38:27.120 is this decision with rates in terms to govern the compulsory license for webcasters internet 38:27.120 --> 38:32.800 only radio and simulcasters retransmissions so this is from the sound exchange FAQs now the 38:32.800 --> 38:38.880 sound recording copyright owners and that means anyone who has created interestingly enough 38:40.400 --> 38:44.800 it doesn't necessarily have to be music but if you've recorded a sound recording 38:45.440 --> 38:51.920 then you are a so called SRCO so I'm actually also an SRC and that's really interesting hold on to 38:51.920 --> 38:57.600 that thought for a second so the sound recording copyright owners are subject to a compulsory 38:57.600 --> 39:01.440 license for the use of their music sound exchange was established to administer the collection 39:01.440 --> 39:07.040 and distribution of royalties from such compulsory license taken by non interactive streaming 39:07.040 --> 39:12.560 services that you satellite cable or internet methods of distribution so there's a whole bunch of 39:12.560 --> 39:19.520 big huge pitfalls in this and the first being what is internet radio and what exactly is a 39:19.520 --> 39:25.360 non interactive streaming service now from an experiential and from a technical standpoint 39:25.360 --> 39:31.520 the difference between streaming audio and downloading it there's really not a lot of 39:31.520 --> 39:37.120 difference in fact there's all kinds of little gotchas in these are laws of articles of law 39:37.760 --> 39:43.680 about the difference between streaming that does or does not temporarily maintain you 39:43.680 --> 39:49.280 is not temporarily maintained on your computer which with the progressive download is arguably 39:49.280 --> 39:54.320 exactly the same so the point that Cory was making and others are saying hey you know if this is 39:54.320 --> 40:00.880 a compulsory license it means that regardless of what type of if you're not even distributed 40:00.880 --> 40:04.400 if you don't even have a record deal if you just make a song you put a creative 40:05.360 --> 40:11.600 commons license on it or if you use the podcast music network license it is a license by the way 40:11.600 --> 40:16.720 it even states as such so when you sign up as a podcast or producer you are agreeing to the 40:16.720 --> 40:21.600 license when you sign up as an artist or as a label and you put songs up there you are agreeing 40:21.600 --> 40:25.600 to a license it is an actual legal document it's a license it's not just some kind of 40:25.600 --> 40:30.400 really nearly thing it was well thought out cost a lot of money hit lawyers fees to get it exactly 40:30.400 --> 40:36.880 right and also working with the community to do that to hone it to make it even better that would 40:36.880 --> 40:44.240 technically mean that if you created a web radio let's so let's just call the stream for now 40:44.240 --> 40:49.920 of Ponsa music or music license under a different license such as the creative commons 40:49.920 --> 40:57.680 that you would still as a webcaster you would still be liable for fees and as I read it with 40:57.680 --> 41:03.040 and you know and I do understand what a statutory license is it means essentially no one has to 41:03.760 --> 41:08.240 contact you only have to contact anyone just by the fact you're doing it means you pretty much agree 41:08.240 --> 41:16.560 to do it so that that could be very gnarly now again this is not because I don't 41:17.120 --> 41:21.760 think people should be able to make money off of their art but we have a license in place 41:21.760 --> 41:26.160 seems to be working very well there are alternative ways of making money with your music 41:26.160 --> 41:33.440 through concerts and merchandise and yes even just selling it directly a DRM free so the the 41:33.440 --> 41:39.840 danger here is that this type of statutory and compulsory license could pretty easily be applied to 41:39.840 --> 41:49.680 podcast and it's just one easy step away so that is fucked up and that's definitely not okay 41:50.560 --> 41:56.160 so I'm going to need to find some savants to talk about this and they will have to be in legal 41:56.160 --> 42:01.680 profession I'm going to get Brian Longest who did the original drafts of the podcast 42:01.680 --> 42:07.360 music license and who is a lawyer he is also a director of operations he's a copyright lawyer 42:07.360 --> 42:16.400 patent lawyer and some other kind of lawyer he's a fucking lawyer I'm going to have to ask him to 42:16.400 --> 42:26.400 delve into this because I did find while looking so it's the US copyright office that makes this law 42:27.280 --> 42:36.960 and and says okay this is what statutory means and this is what compulsory means and this is how it 42:36.960 --> 42:43.360 works now I just want to say as a brief side note there is a bill that has been introduced to stop 42:44.240 --> 42:54.640 this particular hike in fees for webcasters for streaming radio and I will put a link to that 42:54.640 --> 43:00.720 in the show notes and I think it's good that they're intervening and if anything trying to slow 43:00.720 --> 43:06.800 down this may 15th deadline but they're not talking about the compulsory nature of the license 43:06.800 --> 43:12.960 they're only talking about the the fee structure so you know it's not really applicable to what I'm 43:12.960 --> 43:18.400 talking about right now this is this is a very dangerous place that we're in I think because 43:19.120 --> 43:26.080 and let me just what is the word I'm looking for waiver here we go so now I'm looking at the 43:29.120 --> 43:39.760 at a copyright law see I'm not a lawyer I'll put a link to this as well title 17 chapter 92 43:40.160 --> 43:44.640 one whatever the hell it is transfer and waiver the rights conferred by subsection A that's where 43:44.640 --> 43:50.160 discusses the compulsory license may not be transferred but those rights may be waived if the author 43:50.160 --> 43:56.720 expressly agrees to such waiver in a written instrument signed by the author such instrument shall 43:56.720 --> 44:02.320 specifically identify the work and uses of that work to which the waiver applies and the waiver 44:02.320 --> 44:08.160 shall apply only to the work and uses so defined in the case of a joint work prepared by two more 44:08.160 --> 44:12.640 authors a waiver of rights under this paragraph made by one such author waves such rights for all authors 44:13.520 --> 44:18.640 so if I read this properly and this is what I need some help on this is where I'm going to get the 44:18.640 --> 44:24.160 savants to work and maybe jersey taught I know it taught I I know you only do like ambulance 44:24.160 --> 44:28.400 chasing work but you could at least have a look at the articles because you're much better at reading 44:28.400 --> 44:35.280 that stuff than I am it appears to me that you may be able to put a waiver in place and in essence 44:35.280 --> 44:40.880 the creative commons or the positive music license would be exactly that now I don't know if 44:40.880 --> 44:45.840 that means we have to send off all these waivers to sound exchange so that they can know that 44:45.840 --> 44:53.840 anything played by these artists is exempt that will have to look into now I do think it is 44:53.840 --> 44:58.720 interesting and that's what I just stumbled on a couple of minutes ago they're talking about 44:58.720 --> 45:04.640 sound recording so in essence that would also mean that if someone used the daily source code 45:05.760 --> 45:12.240 because I sang on it because I sang on it right so that just constitute this entire thing is 45:12.240 --> 45:17.600 one big hip hop song wrap with a little bit of a chorus in the middle then I could also start to 45:17.600 --> 45:22.800 collect fees and probably you know if we don't get any further I could probably edit the 45:22.800 --> 45:26.880 audit the shit out of them because you're even if you're a non member you're allowed to audit 45:27.440 --> 45:33.360 and say okay how many times is my shit played we could really follow them up so before calling 45:33.360 --> 45:38.000 for a complete jihad on this I want to get some savants involved if you're a lawyer if you 45:38.000 --> 45:43.280 understand this if you have access to a copyright lawyer please I'm also calling out to the electronic 45:43.280 --> 45:49.760 frontier foundation where you guys in this and and to creative commons I think that they should 45:49.760 --> 45:56.400 be all over this as well so before we start reaching out to congressman and and and government 45:56.560 --> 46:00.640 let's get our story straight because I don't want it to be just about the fees I want it to be 46:00.640 --> 46:05.680 specifically about this compulsory license so let's be let's be really really specific about what we're 46:05.680 --> 46:11.520 looking at here so that'll do it for today but I do want to keep the vibe alive and keep you in 46:11.520 --> 46:17.520 some good hope and good spirits so a song will typically do that you know what I'm saying 46:18.400 --> 46:22.080 natives of the new dawn one of my favorites from PMN 46:22.560 --> 46:28.880 no matter how shitty how proud just look outside it's gonna be a good day 46:30.880 --> 46:40.160 I'm going to talk about the bad thing on my friend all the fact that we are here 46:40.160 --> 51:09.960 [ Music ] 51:09.960 --> 51:28.800 You can find that song through the link in the show notes at theedicstorescode.com 51:28.800 --> 51:32.720 Natives of the new dawn, it's talking about it a good day. 51:32.720 --> 51:36.320 You know how I've been talking about the soundtrack of our lives for the past a couple 51:36.320 --> 51:37.320 shows. 51:37.320 --> 51:41.880 I always suddenly remember that I played this song when my mom was really ill. 51:41.880 --> 51:45.760 Just took me back for a minute there. 51:45.760 --> 51:47.760 But let's think about the good days. 51:47.760 --> 51:50.120 And we'll meet here tomorrow for another one of them. 51:50.120 --> 51:53.600 DailySourceco.com, Adam and podshow.com, take care of yourselves. 51:53.600 --> 51:54.600 See you tomorrow. 51:54.600 --> 51:57.440 Another podshow podcast. 51:57.440 --> 51:58.560 Stick it in your ear. 51:58.560 --> 52:07.200 The best and the brightest. 52:07.200 --> 52:11.520 Saved up daily 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