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Oh, look, it's been about five
minutes I've been on Twitter,
let's see, uh, listening

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to the DSC 592.

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Now, let's watch a pop-up on
Twitter vision.

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With $16 million worth of
airplane strapped to my ass,

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then the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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[ Music ]

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I can't live without you, I
can't live without you

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I can't live without you, I
can't live without you

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Creative control, down on that

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My head, free brothers from
Melbourne, Australia

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Podsafe, brand new on the
Podsafe music network

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I can't get you out of my head

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Everybody, how you doing?

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It is the daily source code at
per person

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Number 592 coming to you from
the curry manner

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in Guilford and Surrey in the
United Kingdom.

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I did it.

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I did what I set out to do this
morning.

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Remember yesterday I said that
if the weather was just as nice

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as yesterday, I was going to go
flying solo, I've done it.

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Now, let me just say a couple of
things.

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First of all, the weather today,
once again, beautiful.

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The weather report had Cavoke,
that's C-A-V-O-K,

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Charlie Elf of Victor Oscar
Kilo, which whenever you see
that,

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what does that actually stand
for?

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I think civil aviation, okay,
something like that.

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It basically Cavoke means it's
perfectly fine to go flying.

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Now, a small caveat, the wind's
about 15 knots,

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gusting to 25 knots, so that's
about 30 miles an hour.

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And it's coming from 090, so
basically a cross-wind gusting
cross-wind.

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Now, when you're landing, and
you have wind from the side,

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you've got to kind of steer into
the wind.

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So basically, you're coming in
sideways, and at the very,

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well, not the very light, but
almost at the last minute,

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you're going to turn the
aircraft onto the center line,

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and you're going to basically
land.

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Of course, if it's gusting, it's
a little more challenging

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because it's not a consistent
wind.

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Now, I knew this was going to
happen.

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And pilots who were listening
will know this feeling.

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You know, you've got this,
you're anxious.

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I have the last 10 flights I've
done.

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I have not done solo that been
with a safety pilot.

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I've been pretty much from here
to Rotterdam.

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I haven't really done any a lot
of solo flying.

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So you're always like, OK, you
know, there's now

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there's no one to save my ass if
I mess it up.

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So right after I dropped
Christina off at school,

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went over to Echo Golf, Tango
Fox Trot, Ferrox Airfield.

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And the wind had picked up a
little bit,

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and he had to wheel out the
aircraft, so I had my nice
English breakfast.

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By the way, I really understand
the English breakfast.

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The full English, I get it.

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I love it.

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And you need that when you're
going to go flying.

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Now you need to be really
completely ready and revved up.

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So you know, and for those of
you who aren't pilots,

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remember when you first had your
driver's license,

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and you got the car for the
first time,

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you're going to go out and drive
around by yourself.

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That kind of feeling is
basically what it is.

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And it was warm today, so it was
like 22 degrees centigrade.

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So needless to say, I had a very
sweaty ass.

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But it went fine, I did five or
six circuits.

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One or two had a little bounce
there, but that's

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to be expected with the gusting
wind.

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And of course, I'm much lighter
than typical since it was just
me,

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in the front of the aircraft.

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But it feels like it's a
victory.

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It really, really feels good.

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Hey, special reminder to May is
National Master Basin Month.

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Hold on, there's a link for
this.

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Let me see, counter punch, where
is it?

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Here we go.

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Oh, boy.

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May is National Master Basin
Month,

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having been so declared by the
erotically aware,

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Jill of Gells, at good
vibrations,

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and the Godmother of Master
Basin herself, Dr. Betty Dodson.

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That's true, Dr. Betty Dodson is
indeed the Godfather

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of female Master Basin.

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Why bother to have a National
Master Basin Month?

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Well, since just about everybody
plays sexual soletarily,

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sometimes, is virtually the
nations

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and the world's most preferred
leisure past time.

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I will leave this link on the
show notes

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so you can take a look at that
at yourself.

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But I do suggest, I do suggest
that we all honor

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this fantastic month of May.

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Hey, and I'm Frank McMahon here,
producer of

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Bunch of Show's Rumor Girls,
Meteor to Secrets,

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and yes, show girls, just listen
to DSC 8591.

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You're talking about show girls.

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And we were discussing the file
size,

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little in it, I'll take the
blame.

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I brought it up, I was actually
discussing it.

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And actually, I've been trying
to get it raised for a while
now,

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and that because I'm, you know,
megabyte hungry.

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But, you know, we're doing a lot
of video stuff

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and, you know, really coming up
against the limit,

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just to put things in
perspective.

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The 200 megabyte limit was set
around the age of 320

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by 240 iPod video format.

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You could actually do a pretty
long show at that res.

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Then the standard for iPod
video,

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jumped to 648 times 480.

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Now with Apple TV, the res is up
again.

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This time 960 times 540 for
white screen Apple TV format.

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Again, this is only in the past
year.

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This has happened.

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So you're seeing web video
that's higher res

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than iPod video that's much
higher res

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and now new devices like Apple
TV.

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So for example, we now do a new
show called Rumor Girls HD,

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which is a version of our show
that plays in high res and
stuff.

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Now, the iPod version of a
recent episode

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is 69 megabytes.

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That same exact show in Apple TV
format is 170 megabytes.

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Now, that's only for a show
that's about five minutes long.

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We've actually been compensating
by limiting our shows

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now to about six minutes, the
video shows.

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So any longer than that, we're
over 200 megabytes easily

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with the high res Apple TV
format.

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So hence why the larger size is
better.

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And as for the girls
complaining,

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well, they're pretty proactive
girls,

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and they get feisty.

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So you've listened to the show.

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So you know what I'm talking
about.

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And we've actually been ramping
up show girls

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a lot in the past several months
with share, KFC,

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and GB Kelly Lewis, soccer girl,
and Karen and Carla.

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And we're really getting into
the group.

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We're having a lot of fun.

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So we hope your listeners will
check it out.

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Go to showgirls.pachow.com.

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And Adam just wanted to wrap up
and say,

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Pachow has helped us
tremendously.

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Especially with room of girls in
the past year.

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I mean, the storage is really
just the beginning for us.

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I mean, you've helped in
promotion and marketing.

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And of course, sponsors.

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You've allowed us to run this
empire as a business.

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So thanks for that.

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And thanks for upping the limit.

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We just want to be ready for the
future.

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So anyway, thanks Adam.

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Take care.

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And I really appreciate it.

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Of course, we're not entirely
perfect.

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OK, so we'll be next Monday when
listeners will be invited

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to help Pachow suck less.

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I just want to say one thing
about the video upload.

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What you will see in a
forthcoming generation

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of the Pachow network is
automatic transcoding

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from your uploaded files into
flash.

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So you'll have your feed with
your original source material,

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which would be MP4 or MP3.

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And all the rest immediately is
transcoded to flash.

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And you'll have a module to put
that on your show site.

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So hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
we're listening.

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We want to suck less.

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Help us suck less.

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Help us suck less.

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Pachow needs you to help us suck
less.

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Help us suck less.

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[ Music ]

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1, 1, 2, 1, 6, 5, 6, 3, 5, 7.

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Hello, I'm Mrs. Chow.

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Hello, DSC listeners.

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I haven't been listening for a
while.

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I haven't been phoneian for
longer.

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But back, you're not in the big
number.

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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
oh.

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It's chars the drunk in London,
or any of those

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silver and his bag got leaked my
notebook uh just like me I've
got

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moleskin sort of no pad notebook
that is analog notebook I lost
my digital

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camera I lost my ipod and uh are
are the bits and pieces I like
it does

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mean that I now without an ipod
means I don't really get a
chance to listen to the

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VAT which is a real bugger I
have to wait until I've got a
bit more money and

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I can replace the thing oh well
how you guys will okay and it
means on

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oh Charles I feel completely
shitty for you man that how it
you feel so

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violated when someone steals
something from you don't you
gosh that sucks I'll

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tell you what email me an
address my friend and I will
send you the the red

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ipod I got from Virgin Atlantic
so at least you'll have
something to listen

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to the Charlie to and you know
it's like you definitely deserve
that because

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you've been such a you know it's
such a consistent fine drunken

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Londoner

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I got to move things along
because we have a yet another
savant from the

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circle standing by to talk to us
about a topic that's on
everyone's mind has

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been discussed in the blog
blogosphere throughout the past
week or two and this

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all stemmed from a posting on a
daily cause about the sound
exchange license

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for web radio for streaming
radio and of course there's
already controversy

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or should I say controversy
about the pronunciation of daily
cause.

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They had them don't play this oh
we never mind you never do
anyway listen just

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point of note it's daily codes
and it codes apparently is like
this guy's

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nickname out of democracy I
think it's a guys real name so
now it turns out

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it hurts my codes so therefore I
think it's still a team that's
what Mark is

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Marcos and daily codes daily
codes is just the guy's name.

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See ya.

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The savant specials.

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Okay it's time for our savant
from our series of the circle of
savants

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by the Sultan of Sitzavans.

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So I think I'm going to be able
to get at least one savant in
episode

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there's a fast forward button on
there for a reason.

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And I hope to be able to talk to
savant every single day.

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So I'm on.

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And by the way I want you to
know that this format change
doesn't mean that I don't

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student want to make it pictures
make it pictures.

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I'm the southern of Sitzavans
savants.

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From the circle of savants now
and as you know the people that
we hired pod show

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I hope there's savants comic
strip blogger might disagree.

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But certainly Brian longest who
has been with us since the
inception

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conception of pod show.

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Brian what the hell is your
title?

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You know I don't give a shit
about titles.

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What is the EVP of operations
and stuff?

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Yeah the operation of stuff.

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Covered quite a bit.

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Whatever fall through the cracks
lands on my desk.

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So Brian is very interesting guy
because not only has he been CEO
of his own company

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at least one that I know of.

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He holds a degree in law and a
degree in computer science.

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And what did you that's right
correct.

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Does it look from a real school
Brian?

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Cool yeah.

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Actually from George Mason both
law and undergraduate comes to
computer science.

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And I practice with the patent
attorney as well.

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Obviously just every day
attorney.

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Okay so patent.

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So not a copyright attorney per
se with a patent attorney which
is.

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Well here's a thing about law.

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You know you in the US you pass
the bar for each state.

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And then you can practice any
law you want other than patent
law.

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Then you have to take a specific
exam to pass the patent bar
exam.

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So everyone can say yeah I'm a
copyright attorney or trademark
attorney etc.

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But only those that pass a
particular exam they're a patent
attorney.

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So I did focus on patent
copyright trademark trade
secret.

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Mainly related to software
internet and that sort of thing
because I was my background.

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So when you when you mentioned
this to chicks get all hot
bothered when you say you're a
patent attorney.

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Does that work?

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Does it turn them on?

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Oh of course.

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Now I just want to point out why
that was my selling good look.

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Oh.

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Potshow has not to my knowledge
actually filed any patents.

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Has it have we filed patents?

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No we haven't yet.

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We haven't yet.

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We haven't yet.

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It's considered evil Brian
you're not supposed to file any
patents.

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That's wrong.

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You can't do that.

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No no you know why we want to do
it because we want to make
everything we're doing public.

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So others can build upon it.

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Right?

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Make a better world.

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That's the patent system.

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Oh man you are such a lawyer.

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Oh my god.

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Oh wow.

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Anyway.

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Well we we didn't hire Brian
necessarily for his talent in
law.

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Although it has come in very
very handy in a lot of stuff
certainly in the start-up phase.

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It was fantastic to have your
wealth and breadth of knowledge
amongst us.

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Now you work you operate.

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What do you do Brian?

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What do I do here at Potshow?

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Yeah.

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What do you do at Potshow?

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Oh boy.

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So we handle let's see.

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In operations business
operations if you will.

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We handle that.

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And you know anything that comes
in legal lives and we've got
many different.

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Count different individuals will
work with us depending upon it's
copyright or

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corporate or what it may be.

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HR facilities the office office
IT customer support and then
network operations which is
different.

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And that's handling our campaign
management and then to fail to
come through and make

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it sure we keep everyone happy
and running.

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And then everything else that
comes in there working with
talent relations etc.

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So are you also responsible for
like the coffee machine?

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Yeah.

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Ultimately actually ultimately I
think it responsible for
anything that goes wrong.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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Brian.

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Exactly.

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So this is the main right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You never get invited to the
parties.

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No.

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No.

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For the crap when someone peeps
in the toilet.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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All kidding aside Brian.

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There are two people that I
reached out to regarding this
web radio sound exchange.

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Statutory compulsory license.

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One of them is the official
musicologist of the Charlie Sir
Jersey Todd.

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He's a workers compensation
attorney.

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So he said that he would have to
pass on it because he was
absolutely no good.

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He did however point out that
you know that earlobe infection
I got.

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He said I could probably get
about five grand.

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Really?

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He's going to find like one
thousand other people like you
and put it together.

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I don't know.

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I'm getting what it would have
been showing the company or who
do we sue them.

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Yeah.

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I don't know how to handle it.

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I'll find out.

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Don't worry.

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I'll let you know.

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Sounds like easy money to me.

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Sounds like gasp.

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Yeah.

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So you studied the links that I
sent you and of course you've
been involved in internal
conversations about this.

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Tell me what's your take on it?

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Well I think it's interesting.

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Let me I'm a practice full time
for quite a while.

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So let me give you the
background of just copyright law
in general.

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And then you can kind of see why
they got to where they are right
now and why they're having these
issues.

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You know, copyright law in
August was around 76 when they
said okay everyone who has a
they will have a bundle of
rights.

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So your copyright have a bundle
of rights things that you can
do.

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And then as time goes on like
anything else is kind of throw
stuff underneath there because
they don't know where else to
put it.

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So then came in 1995 I believe
it was a digital performance
right.

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And they essentially said well
they're going to add a new right
to this bundle of rights.

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And if you want to look it up at
17 USC it's 106.

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So I did a new right right
number six.

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So these bundle of rights that
consisted of things like rights
to play on the radio rights to
cells.

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Am I doing that?

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Well sort of mainly it's a
little broader than that.

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Like friends and the right to
reproduce the copyright work to
what one.

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One that everyone always talks
about it created derivative
work.

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You always hear them talk about
that distributed copies.

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And so that's six the right that
they added with specific to the
digital audio transmission.

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So that's in other words they're
saying you copyright holder have
the right to perform this.

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And well not perform it.

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But put it out you know digital
audio transmission is what they
do.

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To allow someone else to feed it
through a digital audio
transmission I presume.

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Well yeah so in other words you
get to retain that right.

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We're giving that to you the
copyright.

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And then that and then what
comes along they say however.

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This is what they call the you
know the performance right.

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They created a statutory
license.

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And they who is they Brian who
is they who creates it when you
say they created who's that.

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Gee well it goes back to let's
see it always works with white
up bill and then.

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So it's like U.S. laws like it's
like federal law.

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Yeah essentially I mean they put
it into the code itself.

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So that's when they say it's you
know they put it into the
statute.

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And then essentially what's nice
is that that's the way you want
it.

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You want the copyright holder to
be able to do whatever they
want.

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But they said okay under the
digital millennium copyright act
that was in 98.

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They came up with webcasting
because no one knew what to do
with that.

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So they said well we created
this new right.

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Let's stick webcasting under
there.

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Okay okay okay hold on a second
so that right initially okay
I've read up on the material as
well.

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My friend and as you know I I
practice law my spare time here
in the county of a jury.

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And so those rights that that
right initially underneath it
was satellite radio.

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Cable music services I believe
and was there a third one that I
missed.

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There was something else I'd
have to look it out maybe
subscribe was music subscription
services under that.

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Well that's where that's where
it gets interesting.

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For subscription and non
subscription there's also
interactive or non interactive.

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So what the hell is that what
the hell is interactive and non
interactive.

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I saw that.

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Yeah interactive is just let's
say you were to look online and
say I want to hear that song now
you click it and you start to
hear that song.

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They can sort of that
interactive and then to define
it they say well anything played
within I believe it's over an
hour of when it was actually.

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Um requested.

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If it's within that hour then
it's interactive if it's not
then it's the non interactive.

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So if you put it if you publish
a program guide and it says okay
at at at at 815 tonight you'll
be able to listen to the Beatles
help.

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It would be good to interact
actually.

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It's a little more of you
actually.

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Um requesting something like
almost like playing a movie on
part request.

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Okay I got it.

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So so what they decide to do
would say well you know what the
we're going to leave a right
with you to copyright holder
unless it's non interactive.

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So then they apply the statutory
licensing.

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And essentially what they're I
mean usually what you hear most
people say and I'm sure you have
colors they'll tell me I'm wrong
but usually what they'll say is
well why you want to do this.

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You want to do this because
there's a lot of copyright
holders out there you can't find
them.

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So this business would never you
know I'm really aware of webcast
anything if they had to go out
and individually find everybody
unless they have particularly a
pretty clear degree with that so
that's where they came up with
well.

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Okay now we're going to collect
create a uh copyright like a
collection agency that's the
sound.

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Sound exchange.

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Now let them let them figure it
out let um the webcasters pay
them and then let them figure
out how to find all these
people.

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So kind of make this
intermediary.

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But that intermediary turns out
to be the actual owners of all
this copyright because in most
cases it's the it's the the big
record label.

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So the kind of saying you guys
who own it you go and collected
that's correct.

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Yeah sort of they're telling
what they say is the sound
exchange they say you can go
collect it.

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And it's it's pretty funny here
here's an analogy because all I
deal with is my my kids when I'm
home.

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The analogy is you know my my
two little boys one of them says
hey dad I want to go to one's
toy.

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So I take it and I give it to
them.

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But this analogy is where they
they see that there's a house
down the street and they can
look in the window and they see
the toy and they know the boy's
name is Joe.

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But they've never been to boy
and they say dad go give me that
toy.

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Okay well I go in I break in I
take the toy Joe the little kid
doesn't know I took it and I
give it to my kids and they say
okay.

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I said well you know shouldn't
we let Joe know we've got it
like well.

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Let's put Joe's name on a list
and pack it to the back of our
house and if Joe ever comes by
and happens to go over our fence
and look at the back of our
house.

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We'll have put five cents in you
know every time we take one of
his toys if he looks them then
we'll get five cents because he
found the list.

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So that's exactly what's our
exchange done go to their site
and you can find a list of all
these artists that they're
saying hey guys you need to come
to us and collect your money.

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They don't proactively go out
and find these people and after
three years they get to keep all
the money.

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Oh really if you haven't.

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Yeah so basically it's really
interesting the way they set it
up.

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I mean theoretically I think
there might be you know on the
right track honestly I don't
have a solution myself.

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So you know if you don't have
your own solution usually you
need to shut up.

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But in this case I don't think
they've done they've gone far
enough.

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So why the big record agency
they're always record agency's
always talked about because well
they have a deal with the sound
exchange.

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They know they're doing this
they pay attention and they go
and ask for their money.

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Well sound exchange is the is
the record companies Brian sound
exchange is Warner and Universal
so you know they know exactly
that it's their stuff that's
being played.

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They know how to find the owner
because it's them.

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Right in the in the little guy
if you will you know the
independent artists.

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Well no one's looking out for
them really this was supposed to
be something that would help
them.

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And that's them who knows if it
really is because unless you're
going to go seek it out.

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So here's what's what's become
here's what is very interesting
to me.

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So I understand that if you
create a so if you put us if you
make a song you make an MP3 out
of it you put it up on the
internet.

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And you license it under
creative commons creative
commons attribution let me do
not.

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Yeah creative commons
attribution.

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It is there by.

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I believe that the copyright
holder has said okay look as as
long as people.

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I mentioned my name or say with
the song came from it's kind of
okay to put it on your your your
non interactive service.

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At the same time it appears and
this is what the reporting this
is really the nucleus of the
story of course it appears that
sound exchange.

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Will be able to.

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Collect a fee based upon the
number of people who heard that
song on said web stream or web
streams.

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Right that that's exactly right
and the reason that is is you
know essentially you started out
the copyright holder you made
that song you put it up.

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You've got the right all of them
so you can go out on the side
with the do it on so you say
okay I'm going to use this
creative commons or whichever
one it is here's my license and
here's what people can do.

26:34.240 --> 26:41.240
Then government come along says
well I know we gave you those
rights but guess what we're
going to take that one back
real.

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Here's an exception that's what
the statutory license is it's an
exception to that one particular
right that you had right and
then.

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What's interesting is will then
comes along these and they're a
little difficult to figure out
with these waivers where the
copyright owner can.

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Can wave and say well okay
actually I want to give these
people.

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The ability to do this as long
as I let everybody know.

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So it's it's weird here all your
right or just like I'm going to
domain but we're taking that one
back.

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Wow we will give you this weird
strange exception and a waiver
if you can figure out how to
find the people and get a waiver
from them then maybe okay you
won't have to end up paying
sound exchange.

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So that's where it becomes
really interesting and that's
what they don't point out.

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Well they don't point it out but
but it's interesting light.

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No I'm sure it's not in flashing
light so a couple to have
learned something very
interesting here first of all
I've learned that.

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And I have to presume that this
actually was in place a long
time ago I don't think this is
new because the initially the
reason why sound exchange is
kind of popped to the top of the
stack is because of the rate
hike.

27:50.240 --> 28:09.240
But but this actual the
statutory license has been in
there all along so presumably
and there are maybe thousands or
hundreds of thousands of SRCOs I
think that's what it is sound
recording copyright owners
independent artists who have put
their music out there that may
have been played on a web
stream.

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Who can go and get money from
sound exchange.

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Yeah there's a huge list and
then actually say that it
doesn't cover everyone you know
there are two things they're
going to make the float on the
money although I did see I think
one of their quarters they
collected about 14 million so
we're not talking about a huge
amount but you know the float on
what's not collected could be
pretty generous.

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And I hope after three years
people will just forget about it
or you know one through years
passes if they don't go get it
or they get to keep it.

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Really that's that's pretty
disgusting. Okay, so so it's
interesting that this this is
never popped to the top before
and I guess what you know the
the next logical question is
what if they.

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And I guess that would be the
government who then hands it off
the sound exchange determine
that other types of
transmission.

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Now also fall under this
particular right.

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Yeah, there's nothing there's
nothing you say they couldn't I
mean you know this is
essentially Congress they can do
it if they want.

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Now it's up to the court to
figure out and interpret what
they wrote which is what always
happens.

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You know they put something in
the law and then it's up to the
court to figure out what do they
really mean.

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So we'll have to see how it goes
from there but it's going to be
fairly interesting.

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They constantly have carve out
since happening more and more as
you can see I mean one active in
76 with a 95 with a 98.

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I think they set up this
copyright the royalty panel
whatever they call it I think
that was either late 90s early
2000 really.

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So it's going to change
constantly it's pretty
interesting.

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Okay, so so one things for sure
if today I started a stream.

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I put it my little windows media
server and I started a stream
and I played pod safe music all
day long.

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I could potentially be hit with
the depending on how many people
are listening to it.

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I could be hit with a pretty big
bill for again to depending on a
successful I am.

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For the music played on that on
that radio that web radio
stream.

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Yeah, well it's interesting you
see how successful so the carve
out is commercial versus non
commercial.

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So there are some differences in
fees if you're commercial.

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Whether or not you don't plan to
make any money off of it.

30:24.240 --> 30:25.240
Okay.

30:25.240 --> 30:31.240
So you can go in there and read
it's like on to the 115 pages
where they talk about how they
came up with.

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How they came up with this with
a particular code and
essentially they talk about how
they're going to charge you the
percentage of revenue or is it.

30:41.240 --> 30:46.240
You know per usage fee a flat
fee it gets on right so now of
course the people for money.

30:46.240 --> 30:59.240
Yeah, the proposal now is is
that it's zero point to eight
cents per per listen with a
minimum of five hundred dollars
per channel per year.

30:59.240 --> 31:10.240
But essentially the question
that I asked is the answer is
yes if I did that I would have
to pay for it as a webcaster.

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Yeah, exactly and I don't know
if this makes a lot of sense
because online I think we've
changed so much.

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The idea and the standard is how
do they come up with you rates
what makes them decide and they
usually say well let's assume.

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We had someone who wanted to
give up their right and wanted
the license it and someone who
wanted to buy it.

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Oh willing seller willing buyer
and then there's some other
factors they put in the play and
they come up with what they
think the right is.

31:33.240 --> 31:36.240
But really it's what the
market's going to bear.

31:36.240 --> 31:37.240
Who knows?

31:37.240 --> 31:39.240
The law is going to dictate
behavior.

31:39.240 --> 31:44.240
If all of a sudden you put
something in place and they want
to make any money off of it
everything goes away.

31:44.240 --> 31:45.240
Right.

31:45.240 --> 31:47.240
Which was my entire point.

31:47.240 --> 31:48.240
Yeah, which was my entire point.

31:48.240 --> 31:58.240
My entire point was hey if the
RIA which indirectly sound
exchanges they want to put these
huge prices on it that's fine
because it'll just go away
because people can't afford to
do it.

31:58.240 --> 32:06.240
And in the same breath I said
but you know that's why we have
all these alternative licenses
out there you can go to garage
ban you can go to.

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PMN you can go you can use
creative commons and in that
case the entire intent of the
artist is to say hey it's okay
you can play this I'm going to
make my money on sales I believe
in that or it's great promotion
for me.

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By the way radio doesn't have to
pay this type of fee unless
they're rebroadcasting.

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They're they're signal through a
stream a traditional radio does
not have to pay this type of
copy right from what I
understand.

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So the last question I have for
you Brian in those 115 pages or
whatever it was that you that
you skimbed throughout me hello.

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Brian.

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Hello.

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Okay that's fixed.

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So the the final question was in
those 115 pages that you skim
through like everything else.

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Yeah.

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Did it.

32:57.240 --> 33:03.240
Was there a very particular
language about what exactly a
song constitutes?

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I mean let's say right now I
have a show it's 30 minutes long
and I sing.

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Hey la hey la hey la hola that
means it's a song with a lot of
wrap around it.

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Is that now a song? Is that a
sound recording? Is that an
official tune that I can charge
for someone webcast that?

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Interesting.

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You know I'd have to think a
little more about that.

33:26.240 --> 33:30.240
Okay we clearly have more work
to do Mr. Long.

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I do know that I personally
wouldn't pay for that one.

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Oh man.

33:35.240 --> 33:40.240
You don't listen to my show on a
regular day.

33:40.240 --> 33:43.240
You will now.

33:43.240 --> 33:51.240
All right Brian. So what I'd
like you to do over the course
of the next week and I'm going
to try and find the Lawrence
Lasseg of Creative Commons.

33:51.240 --> 33:57.240
I'm sure no one from EFF will
ever call because that's only
when it serves them do they
call.

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I'm going to I'd like you to
look into the waiver thing and
see you know that could be a
great way to save you know web
radio which I do believe in.

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I think it's good and I don't
particularly it's not
particularly what I want to do
but the idea of exposing artists
to tons of people at an
affordable rate which would in
my mind will be zero.

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That would be fantastic so if
you have some time between.

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How many kids do you have now
nine?

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Three.

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Okay between the kids and then
the other seventy kids at the
office.

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Could you look into that for me?

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Absolutely.

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Hey you know just a plug my own
little page on pod show longest
dot pod show you can see a video
of my boys.

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Okay.

34:40.240 --> 34:45.240
When they were babies and
they're raising their hand for
chocolate popcorn and they're
just little tiny guys that kind
of funny.

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All right cool longest dot pod
show dot com.

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Oh yeah we mean you don't go
there every day.

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You got me.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Who's Jay indeed?

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All right Brian.

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Thanks a lot man.

34:57.240 --> 34:59.240
I appreciate it and talk to you
soon.

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All right.

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Anytime.

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Thanks.

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You're honored.

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I'd like to make a motion to
rock this mother out.

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You're honored.

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Please don't bang back yet.

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Do see your job.

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Hey.

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I hired me done quit the day.

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Yeah baby.

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Jersey touch.

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Jersey touch here.

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You know what's our badminton
jersey tie the official
music,ologist.

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But you know I had a debut is
some some new music there
because I've I guess I've got a
new term here at the daily
source code.

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code. I am now your ultimate
Savan. Yeah, that's right, baby.
Any questions you got? Just

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just come to Jersey. I'm sure I
can figure out the answer for
you. But listen, listen,

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I have no idea why you dragged
me into this copyright
discussion. I mean, I don't do
copyright

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for a living. I mean, it's a
very, very, very specific area
of law with some very, very

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smart people and some very
talented people of which I am
not one of. All right, but I
will try

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to give you a little bit of an
answer here. I went over to
sound exchange.com's website

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and there was actually a very,
very interesting fact on the
whole thing. And basically what

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it's telling artists is that if
they join sound exchange, they
can still negotiate a license
with

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a webcaster or a podcast or if
they wanted to. What sound
exchange prohibits artists from
doing

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is licensing their copyrights to
another royalty collection
agency. You know, some sort of
monsters

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to collect money for them. But
it does very specifically say
that artists can go out and

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license their music, whether,
you know, to podcasts, there's a
webcasters or to any other kind

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of statutory licensing. But it
does kind of sort of indicate
that the artist better go and
notify

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sound exchange of any direct
licenses or statutory licenses
or digital music service
providers,

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so they can make sure that
they're getting paid. See, sound
exchange makes it look very nice
and

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very simple that they're just in
it for the best interest of the
artist trying to get the artist

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paid. Yeah, of course, they do
want their cut of getting the
artist paid. And then, you know,

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that's just kind of very, very
see-through. So I think maybe
sort of kind of, this isn't
really,

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I'm not as scared as a podcast
or playing podcast if music
because the artist, you know,

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is part of the podcast if music
network goes out to the podcast
if music network and says it's

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okay to play my music. I think
that that falls into that
section of the fact, I actually
feel

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pretty good about saying that it
does. But, you know, at the same
time, I don't feel great about

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selling music. I don't know. I'm
going to have to defer to Brian
Longest on something like that.

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But, and like anything else, I
don't think that this is
something that's going to be
answered in one

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shot. I mean, I know that
everybody out there wants to
hear me say or another lawyer
say, hey,

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this is all okay. It's not all
okay. I mean, there's a lot of
bullshit lawsuits going around

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out there either by the R.I.W.A.
or by ASCAP or BMI. I mean, all
of these guys are freaking out

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because of what we're doing. And
this is the backlash. This is
the backlash of a bum

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rush to the charts and things
like that. You're going to see
more and more shit like this.

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And I can't come right out and
say, hey, yeah, okay, fine. It's
100% cool. Because it's not
going

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to be 100% cool. This is all new
technology. This is all new law.
You have a lot of judges out
there.

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A lot of attorneys out there
that don't even know where the
fucking power button is for
their computer.

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And I think that what's going to
ultimately happen is that a lot
of these judges and a lot of
these

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attorneys are going to have to
educate themselves because these
lawsuits are coming. They're
going to work

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their way all the way up and
ultimately somebody at the
Supreme Court's going to have to
make the call on this.

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But until that time, this is the
wild west. This is the kind of
shit that they dealt with then.

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I'm going to have to keep
dealing with it. So no, I'm not
going to say this is 100% cool.
I mean,

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this fact isn't a legal
document. I could have been
written by some kid who just
wrote their website.

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I have no fucking idea. But at
the end of the day, I think that
the positive music network and I

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hold and any time that you have
an artist saying it's fine for
you to play my music, I think
that

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that's something right there
that you can put in front of a
jury and say, hey, the artist
said it was cool.

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All these people want as their,
there's their cut. And, you
know, hopefully that's going to
be all right.

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So this is Jersey Todd, the
official, the official ultimate
savant. I got to get my total
right. The

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ultimate savant. Hey, you know,
you call me. I don't give myself
a title. So I'm your ultimate
savant and I'm

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punching out. Talk to you later.
There you have it. Not one but
two legal opinions. What other
podcast

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gives you that? Huh? None.

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[ Music ]

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From the backwaters of
Southport, but not Liverpool,
but in the UK, it's the Daisy
Riots

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And girls don't play Lego, I
don't know if that's necessarily
true, but the song's pretty cool

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Just wrapping up a couple of
things, by the way, I hope you
enjoyed the double shot of
Savannah

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Today, a little long, I have to
admit, but man, it took five
minutes just explaining who
Brian was

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Of course, Y'all know Jersey
Todd is who I thought also,
although he had a very similar
analysis

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It was a little more human for
some reason

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I thank you all for sending
pictures of Joan Rivers after I
saw her on my virgin flight back
from San Francisco

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Yes, everyone comments how
amazing her face looks

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It truly is, it's like
plasticine, man, it's fucking
outrageous

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Mad pod, Jay Donley sent me a
picture that he took over in New
York

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Let's see, here's an email from
John Glasscock, confirming her
age 74 years old

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I tell him, if I look like that
one, I'm 74, I'll be very happy

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And Brittany Mason sent me an
announcement about the reopening
of Pod Show Island in Second
Life

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After the recent move of Pod
Show Island next to the popular
Soho Island this weekend

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That's his upcoming weekend
marks the grand reopening of Pod
Show Island in Second Life

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Pod Show Island mayors, shit,
there's mayors, Agma, I'm not a
mayor

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Now hosting a weekend of epic
proportions, a true marriage of
first life and second life for
an store

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All avatars that appreciate
great entertainment

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I don't know what the fuck that
means

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But the Jeff Smith will be
performing on Friday May 4th

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Of course, we all know the Jeff
Smith from his many, many, many,
many songs

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You can't even call them jingles

44:17.240 --> 44:21.240
Saturday May 5th, Cinco de Mayo
comes to Pod Show Island

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The Pod Mafia will be hosting a
party filled with fun and mayhem

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At their club on Pod Show Island

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Then wraps up Sunday evening
with a monumental second life
concert on Pod Show's garden
stage

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Crap man, I might actually have
to go check it out

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Holy moly, there's a lot going
on, I haven't been in second
life

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Well, I pop in once in a while,
but pretty much an ages

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Whoa

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Okay, that must be the signal
it's time to go

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Show notes at
dailysourcecode.com

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Adam at podshow.com

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I'll talk to you tomorrow after
hopefully more flying

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Another podshow podcast

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Stick it in your ear