WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.000 You're Adam, it's Tony, I'm Josie. 00:05.000 --> 00:09.000 Hey, if you need a savant for loafing around, I'm your man. 00:09.000 --> 00:13.000 I can sit around the couch for two days straight and not lift the muscle. 00:13.000 --> 00:15.000 I can pee in a cup. 00:15.000 --> 00:18.000 I can watch TV for days on end. 00:18.000 --> 00:23.000 So if you need a savant for just loafing around, you can't get me to Tony, Josie. 00:23.000 --> 00:25.000 I'm in the old neighborhood, look me up. 00:26.000 --> 00:29.000 Enjoy the DSC, $5.93. 00:29.000 --> 00:30.000 You're... 00:31.000 --> 00:34.000 $16 million worth of airplane strapped to my ass. 00:35.000 --> 00:38.000 Then the next generation radio content in my ears. 00:41.000 --> 00:43.000 I like to think I'm flying into the future. 00:48.750 --> 03:58.000 [ Music ] 03:58.000 --> 04:01.000 Yes. 04:01.000 --> 04:04.000 They know reason things are this way. 04:05.000 --> 04:08.000 They always been in the instant of the state. 04:08.000 --> 04:11.000 I can't explain why we live this way. 04:11.000 --> 04:16.000 We do it every day. 04:16.000 --> 04:18.000 Brett Dennan. 04:18.000 --> 04:24.000 Ain't no reason kicking off the daily source code episode number five hundred and ninety three coming to you from the curry manner. 04:24.000 --> 04:27.000 In the affluent suburb of Surrey known as Guilford now. 04:27.000 --> 04:30.000 The reason I play that song, I'm quite proud of this. 04:30.000 --> 04:32.000 Of course, it's from the pot safe music network. 04:32.000 --> 04:39.000 Brett Dennan had his song Ain't no reason as the conclusion to the main first episode of house on Fox TV. 04:39.000 --> 04:41.000 So that was last night. 04:41.000 --> 04:43.000 John Glasscock, learning me to this. 04:43.000 --> 04:46.000 And, of course, I know a D.I. Don't watch house on what it's about. 04:46.000 --> 04:49.000 I can't get it here, but it's cool no matter what. 04:49.000 --> 04:51.000 Hey, have a body. 04:51.000 --> 04:54.000 Let me tell you it's a another beautiful day. 04:54.000 --> 04:59.000 I mean really, really stunning weather up there in the 20 degrees. 04:59.000 --> 05:03.160 centigrade once again, the wind is kind of what it was yesterday, although not really 05:03.160 --> 05:09.800 gusting to any high high degree. So about 15 knots, so 17, 18 miles per hour, give or take. 05:09.800 --> 05:14.120 Why do I mention all this? Well, of course, because I did it again. I'm so proud of myself. 05:14.760 --> 05:19.720 I went flying this morning. So drop Christina off and continue right on to to the airfield 05:19.720 --> 05:26.680 ferrocs. And, uh, oh, man, it's, uh, I'm, I'm like, I'm, it's so, uh, invigorating. I'm completely 05:26.760 --> 05:30.920 tripping because I've, yeah, of course, I've flown solo and it's no problem. And I know how to do it, 05:30.920 --> 05:36.680 but still, now I'm really starting to feel comfortable. And this is after, I don't know, I have, 05:37.720 --> 05:43.320 if I count it up on my hours. I'm sure I'm somewhere between 1500 and 2000 hours of, of 05:43.320 --> 05:47.720 flying time total, but in all different countries and different airfields and different rules. And of 05:47.720 --> 05:54.360 course, I started with helicopters. So fixed wing, much less experience, but, uh, yeah, it's, uh, 05:54.520 --> 05:59.000 getting exciting. Of course, I came back after the flight only to find out that, uh, the pipe 05:59.000 --> 06:08.280 is down. We've got no more pipe. I guess. I don't know, uh, it's, you know, I, I'm not using, uh, 06:08.280 --> 06:14.280 BT internet, but of course, uh, I am using the, you know, you have to have the BT landline in order 06:14.280 --> 06:21.080 to get DSL service. And, uh, it's pretty interesting because I actually got a message from BT when 06:21.080 --> 06:25.480 trying to connect and it says that the master circuit to my ISP is down or something like that. 06:26.040 --> 06:30.520 But it's still kind of cool that then the modem connects to something else and then gives you that message. 06:30.520 --> 06:36.520 Oh, quite impressed with that. Um, but right now, on the, uh, on the vote of phone, uh, USB 06:36.520 --> 06:41.800 dongle thingy, which still gives me about to, it gets up to close to two, uh, a megabit per second, 06:41.800 --> 06:46.200 uh, every now and then. So it's, uh, doable. I was able to download songs from, uh, 06:46.280 --> 06:50.920 pots of music now, working somehow, uh, able to upload this entire show. Of course, back to the 06:50.920 --> 06:55.800 flying, uh, let me just tell you what I did. Um, instead of, you know, touching ghost flying around the 06:55.800 --> 07:01.640 airport, I went down south. I went to midhurst past Goodwood, which is a famous chichister, uh, 07:01.640 --> 07:07.160 Goodwood airfield. They have a horse racing there, as well as car racing and a, a wonderful airfield. 07:07.160 --> 07:14.360 I didn't land. I passed by went out, uh, coasted out over the ocean, uh, essentially turned, uh, 07:14.440 --> 07:19.000 well, turned right, but eastwards. And just followed the coast for a little bit, uh, went past 07:19.000 --> 07:23.400 shore, um, and then, uh, turned around and flew back up about an hours worth of flying, and it was just 07:23.400 --> 07:30.440 really, it was so wonderful. Uh, uh, you know, and you get up to like 4,000 feet and when air was nice 07:30.440 --> 07:36.840 and calm and I'm just like, whooping, you know, like, whoa, man, yeah, I was flying. I don't know 07:36.840 --> 07:42.520 how to, uh, when they're morning, it's huge and fair, it's not at fair to the moment. We'll see 07:42.600 --> 07:47.720 yesterday, uh, saw the aircraft out and thought, well, my one of Adam's showing up or they're just 07:47.720 --> 07:53.880 putting it out into the sun because it, uh, it's been indoors for so long. Uh, anyway, um, 07:53.880 --> 08:02.120 rub it in. Uh, what else are you gonna say? Uh, cover, okay, ceiling and visibility, okay, come on Adam, 08:02.120 --> 08:09.080 you know, uh, ceiling and visibility, okay, otherwise in excess of, was it 10 kilometers horizontal 08:09.160 --> 08:17.000 and no clouds? Um, yep. Sorry, I missed you. I'm usually there. So, um, drop by, have a coffee 08:17.000 --> 08:22.840 and uh, see some of the, um, interesting toys I've got sometime. See you again sometime, bye. 08:23.560 --> 08:28.600 You know, I don't usually go, uh, in on invitations from guys who want me to show you their, 08:28.600 --> 08:34.840 me their interesting toys, Hugh. Uh, uh, I did have my holiday, I didn't see you anywhere. Yes, 08:34.920 --> 08:39.960 they are today. I must say. And yes, thank you. Thank you. I know, I don't know what I was thinking. 08:39.960 --> 08:44.440 Yes, today I talked about the weather report as they're reported for aviation and Kavoke as 08:44.440 --> 08:49.400 it whenever you see Kavoke, that means we're going flying no matter what, uh, and yes, uh, 08:49.400 --> 08:54.040 many people called in and, uh, and told me something of course I knew, but should have said 08:54.040 --> 09:01.080 correct with the first time. Hello, Adam. It's a mic turning here from Bristol and the UK also known 09:01.080 --> 09:14.760 as a German, the so-to-in that other world. Um, Kavoke, C-A-V-O-K, feeling and visibility, okay, that's what it's 09:14.760 --> 09:19.400 done for because you didn't know that, right? You didn't know that at all with tailwinds and the Delta 09:19.400 --> 09:27.160 Sierra. Also, I hope to see you on the annual opening pod show Ireland on the Saturday afternoon there. 09:28.040 --> 09:32.280 That's Adam Newman. You have gone office and they asked the wrong man. I think you're on 09:32.280 --> 09:37.320 you're actually a man yourself. You know you've been seeing the place and you've even got your 09:37.320 --> 09:42.840 right office there. Take care, and we'll hope to see you on Saturday on the pod bus here at home. 09:42.840 --> 09:47.880 I've gone in. Cheers, man. Cheers. Yeah, I really should go check out my office and see if I have 09:47.880 --> 09:53.000 a mayor's chain to wear a key to the city. Yeah, maybe I'll pop by Saturday. Sunday, I'm going to go 09:53.000 --> 09:57.000 pick up an action. I'm going to go to the show in the Netherlands. I hope I can talk about this 09:57.000 --> 10:02.840 pretty soon. I'll see you because there's some cool shit happening around it. Excuse me. You know what 10:02.840 --> 10:09.160 that means? It means this program is brought to you by Tyler and all p.m. I still haven't tried it 10:09.160 --> 10:15.640 out myself, but I'm informed from very reliable sources. It really does work and Angie B will tell you 10:15.640 --> 10:21.000 more about it on her show on wine on wine.podshow.com, which of course is sponsored by Tyler and all 10:21.000 --> 10:25.560 p.m. I watched the Liverpool Chelsea last night. I'm not a, you know, I'm not a big sports fan, 10:25.720 --> 10:29.400 not a big football fan. But when it comes to something like the Champions League, when it comes 10:29.400 --> 10:35.320 to Liverpool playing basically a home game and these guys at the fans are very, very famous. Liverpool 10:35.320 --> 10:41.720 is such an incredibly strong team. And of course we have Chelsea, which is a, uh, a lot of people 10:41.720 --> 10:46.280 don't like Chelsea because, you know, we've got a foreign owner and, you know, it's like, hey, 10:46.280 --> 10:49.960 you know, we don't really need a culture in our club. We'll just, you know, pull together all kinds 10:50.040 --> 10:55.080 of foreigners to, which everyone kind of does. But I don't know, it just has a very negative 10:55.080 --> 10:59.800 connotation in many cases. Now, please Chelsea fans don't get all upset that I'm saying this. I'm 10:59.800 --> 11:06.680 just, you know, observing kind of from the outside. And it was a good game. Liverpool won. It was 11:06.680 --> 11:12.920 interesting because, uh, multiple Dutch guys had to shoot penalty kicks. And if you know anything 11:12.920 --> 11:17.800 about football and this much, I do know the Dutch when it comes to to sudden death. Oh, that was 11:18.120 --> 11:23.320 the studio door. Sorry about that. When it comes to sudden death and, um, and penalty kicks, 11:23.960 --> 11:30.600 the Holland socks. And so first there was, uh, Zenden, uh, he actually, he scored and he had a great 11:30.600 --> 11:36.360 match, uh, all round. But then for Chelsea, they had, uh, Aryan Robin, he had these guys choke. The Dutch 11:36.360 --> 11:42.760 always choke. And he choked. And then, of course, the winning penalty kick was made by, um, 11:42.760 --> 11:48.520 caught another fine Dutchman. I'm telling you, these Dutch guys, they're taking care of business 11:48.520 --> 11:52.840 over here. Now, really sad news though this morning. And they were talking about it at the airfield, 11:53.960 --> 12:00.440 um, a businessman flying back from, uh, from the match, died when his helicopter crashed 10 miles 12:00.440 --> 12:07.400 from his home. This is on an honorary vice president of Chelsea, Philip Carter himself and, uh, 12:07.480 --> 12:14.680 two of his friends along with pilot Steven Holdich, um, perished. They're, uh, 10, a twin squirrel 12:14.680 --> 12:19.960 helicopter. This is, I can't wait to find out what happened because this is very uncommon for a twin 12:19.960 --> 12:25.000 engine helicopter to go down. Uh, and of course, the weather was fine, uh, last night as well. 12:25.000 --> 12:30.600 Um, after the match, it should not have been a problem. Um, you see, where was it found? It was 12:30.600 --> 12:35.000 found on its side virtually intact at Wandsford, near Peterborough. So they must have had a really 12:35.960 --> 12:42.200 something weird must have gone down there. That's sad when that happens. So, uh, that was kind of the 12:42.200 --> 12:49.880 bummer. Did read something on, uh, actually I saved this, um, from, uh, from Google reader. I think 12:49.880 --> 12:54.200 I, where did I read this? Maybe, uh, maybe I read this, uh, while I was on vacation, but I went through 12:54.200 --> 12:58.840 my start items, if you know how that works with all the Google products, it kind of works well. 12:58.920 --> 13:05.800 No, this is from April 24th. Um, check this out. Cryptonite found in Serbian mine. 13:06.840 --> 13:10.360 Min, when Minerologist Dr. Chris Stanley of London's Natural History Museum to 13:10.360 --> 13:14.760 a web search on the chemical formula of a recently discovered unusual mineral he was shocked to find out 13:14.760 --> 13:20.280 that the rock is Cryptonite. The mineral found in a Serbian mine by the company Rio Tinto consists of the 13:20.280 --> 13:25.560 same count chemicals as fictional Cryptonite as described in the film Superman returns. 13:26.280 --> 13:31.640 So, the BBC wrote about it. Uh, the new mineral does not contain fluorine, which it does in the 13:31.640 --> 13:37.480 film, and is white rather than green, but in all other respects, the chemistry matches that rock 13:37.480 --> 13:45.400 containing Cryptonite. I don't know what to think about this, but uh, if you're into geology, 13:45.400 --> 13:49.320 if you know anything about minerals and stuff like that, and or if you're Superman, you know 13:49.320 --> 13:54.120 about Cryptonite. I'd love to hear from you. The perfect Savand moment. We got another one for you today, 13:54.120 --> 14:00.120 as well, um, which I think will you will enjoy almost a second, and just kind of new 14:00.120 --> 14:06.040 voice mail message. Let me see what it is. Hey, Dad, um, it's me. I'm standing outside of the Odean, 14:06.040 --> 14:10.440 you know, cinema, and I thought you were taking me out of the oven. Um, you probably have 14:10.440 --> 14:15.240 a lot of water or something, so I'm going back and you're done, okay? She knows me so well, 14:15.240 --> 14:21.000 you're probably on the line with Ron. Other interesting things coming into the voice mail today? 14:21.000 --> 14:27.080 Hi, my name is Nick Reynolds, I'm Tom and I contact Adam Curry. I'm putting together a session 14:27.080 --> 14:32.840 for this year's radio festival, and I want to do some of the interesting and participating. 14:32.840 --> 14:38.280 It's about the impact of Pock Pock's blogs and everything else on radio. 14:38.280 --> 14:41.800 Hmm. If he's interested, could he please give me a ring on this number? Oh, sir. 14:41.800 --> 14:45.640 No, yeah, I won't give him the number. Well, I think that's uh, 14:46.200 --> 14:52.040 man, man, man. Thank you. Good bye. I think that's the BBC. The impact of blogs, 14:52.040 --> 15:01.320 pods, and whatever on radio, hmmm. So many requests, so little things to do. Oh, man, 15:01.320 --> 15:05.960 hold on a second. I can't believe I had something set up because it's been a while since 15:07.000 --> 15:14.600 since I've heard from him hold on. Let me see, maybe if I'm lucky. Yeah, I think this will work. 15:15.720 --> 15:22.760 Savorite with the nylon, spreading the news with the smile on where the roller rite. 15:22.760 --> 15:29.080 Ringo polite. Let's listen, vote a while to the nylon. He's back, everybody, the nylon. 15:29.080 --> 15:34.200 Hey Adam, Mr. nylon, um, to new format, interesting. I think every 15:35.160 --> 15:41.560 product needs to evolve, so I commend you for evolving. However, I'm concerned, I don't want you 15:41.560 --> 15:48.280 to become the Larry King of the podcast world. Larry King, everybody. It's not like the little 15:48.280 --> 15:53.400 edge ahead. I kind of like the fine cell nature of the old cool mat, which is your show is about 15:53.400 --> 15:58.680 nothing and anything on any given day. So let's not sell the baby out with the bath water. 15:58.680 --> 16:03.560 This will example. Yeah, you haven't said, um, talk to you to a guest and probably about a month. 16:03.560 --> 16:09.640 Oh, oh, allow me. Fuck you. By the way, nylon, please. I want to talk to you. I have 16:09.720 --> 16:14.600 questions about the world bank. You are a true savant. You must give me a number to call. 16:14.600 --> 16:21.160 It would be great if we could do that tonight. Please, you're perfect. You hate me and you and you 16:21.160 --> 16:28.120 have knowledge. So let's get on with it. What's happening here? Kind of gentler side of you. So yeah, 16:28.120 --> 16:32.520 I love that. That's the story of the savant thing every now and then, you know, the Larry King thing. 16:32.520 --> 16:37.800 But, you know, keep the fine-filled and you know, lose your temper a bit. A little bit too 16:37.800 --> 16:41.960 mellow for me. I think you're such a little peaman. You're taking it. 16:41.960 --> 16:48.760 That's it. I'm not alone. No, no, I love you, man. Yeah, it's a Tylenol PM I'm taking. It keeps 16:48.760 --> 16:53.400 me nice and mellow. Nice to see, though, that a lot of UK folks call it in. So we 16:53.400 --> 16:57.000 mind as well. Make sure the US people know there's a phone number for you to call as well. 17:13.000 --> 17:17.720 Where are you? I called you 20 minutes ago and you never called me back. You told me I 17:17.720 --> 17:21.960 did that you were going to pick me up at 11 and if I know you're going to play, I would have made 17:21.960 --> 17:26.360 other plans. This is like the third time recently that you promised to do something for me, Dad. 17:26.360 --> 17:31.480 I'm completely flaked out on me. I understand you have to work in your busy, but I'm your daughter. 17:31.480 --> 17:36.280 When you promise me something, something that's simpler, coming to pick me up, when you say you're 17:36.280 --> 17:41.000 going to pick me up, then you do it. I'm so not fucking standing here in the middle of the night, 17:41.000 --> 17:46.600 on the sidewalk, like some crazy homeless person. I'm really getting sick of this shit, Dad. 17:46.600 --> 17:51.080 You keep making all these promises that I can't tell you more than you are the weed topic. 17:51.080 --> 17:56.600 You're trying to run a little stone or pot head. And now I'm going to have to fucking take 17:56.600 --> 18:01.880 a taxi all my home. And when I get there, you and I didn't have a little talk about responsibility. 18:01.880 --> 18:05.800 And when I told you better be standing out the day, there's enough money to pay for this cab. 18:05.800 --> 18:12.680 You fucking better be wearing men's clothing. She's little actress, isn't she? 18:14.280 --> 18:19.720 Take that out of all the wood. Hello. I'm Chris Layton. And I'm Nick Cooper. And hang on, hang on. 18:19.800 --> 18:24.760 Is this thing even on? Hello. Hello. Mr. Curry. Mr. Curry, can you hear us? 18:24.760 --> 18:29.080 Oh, God, it's just going to turn into a method technical blunders and a series of cock-ups, isn't it? 18:29.080 --> 18:31.320 Not necessarily. We're professionals. 18:31.320 --> 18:35.720 Fessional to my ass. Mr. Curry. Can you hear us, Mr. Curry? 18:35.720 --> 18:38.600 You know, I just give up before you. Who is this, Mr. Curry anyway? 18:38.600 --> 18:40.600 Who's Mr. Curry? Who's Mr. Curry? Mr. Curry? 18:40.600 --> 18:43.320 Mr. Curry only happens to be the bad father. 18:43.320 --> 18:45.320 Oh, I understand now. You do? 18:45.320 --> 18:47.080 Yeah, it's a pseudonym for Dave Terrell. 18:47.080 --> 18:53.080 No, not Dave Terrell. Adam Curry, the poor father. God, you know, the big boss. 18:53.080 --> 18:57.080 Oh, him, that guy who picked us off of a use station and gave us this nice, 18:57.080 --> 19:00.680 cushy mammoth task. I'm presenting the disaster that is the pod zone. 19:00.680 --> 19:04.440 Don't say that. Everything's fine here, Mr. Curry. Just ignore Nick. 19:04.440 --> 19:08.680 The pod zone is a marvelous thing. Almost. Thank you, Bill English. Join you. 19:08.680 --> 19:11.240 And the other fantastic talent on BT Pod Show. 19:11.240 --> 19:16.200 Suck up. Anyway, to the point, Mr. Curry, we would just like to say a few words. 19:16.200 --> 19:19.560 If that's all right with you. Bloody well, should be. 19:19.560 --> 19:25.560 We just like to invite all DSC listeners to check out the pod zone's podcast at podzone.btpodshow.com. 19:25.560 --> 19:30.120 Yeah, it's really good. We host a great show with the best pod save music on the planet. 19:30.120 --> 19:33.800 And all the great features that your listeners haven't learned to know and put up with. 19:33.800 --> 19:37.400 Such as the Crucial 3, Tech News, the misconceptions for his own thingy, 19:37.400 --> 19:42.120 and Nick's STDs. So that's the pod zone. Podzone.btpodshow.com. 19:42.120 --> 19:43.400 Thanks again, Mr. Curry. 19:43.400 --> 19:47.720 Mr. Curry, I remember now the guy who likes naked pictures of podpasses. 19:47.720 --> 19:50.040 Hey, seems to curry would fancy one of mine. 19:50.040 --> 19:56.520 Oh, um, I'm not too sure. Either way, Mr. Curry, we love you. 19:56.520 --> 20:00.760 Oh, and I'm one more thing with grunches. 20:00.760 --> 20:03.000 Yeah, you think I didn't know that? 20:03.880 --> 20:06.680 That's why you guys are on the network. We needed to balance it out a little bit. 20:06.680 --> 20:07.960 We needed some more scrunchers. 20:08.680 --> 20:11.880 Well, seriously, it's welcome. Good to have you guys aboard. 20:11.960 --> 20:15.800 Hey, let me see. 20:15.800 --> 20:21.800 Coming up in just minutes. Another savant from who joins us in the circle of the 20:21.800 --> 20:23.720 Cirque de Stavant. Oh, there you go. There's anyone. 20:23.720 --> 20:27.160 Let's seek this savant or de Stavant. 20:27.160 --> 20:31.080 Seek de Savant. Yeah. Yeah, that kind of works, doesn't it? 20:31.080 --> 20:33.320 Like Cirque de Sly, only different. 20:35.160 --> 20:38.760 Once in a while, people will call in and when they've had a brush with greatness. 20:38.760 --> 20:40.600 And today is no exception. 20:41.320 --> 20:45.080 Hey, Adam, our green sea from New York, and I'm out here in San Francisco tonight. 20:45.080 --> 20:49.160 Went off to a blogger dinner with Scoville and you and some other people. 20:49.160 --> 20:53.800 You never guessed who I met. I found one of the famous savants. 20:53.800 --> 20:57.560 Say hello. If you did put it for them, then you can't find it. 20:59.560 --> 21:00.600 That's a real surprise. 21:00.600 --> 21:02.200 Wait a minute. 21:03.240 --> 21:06.440 I love it prolific program when he gets flustered, man. You can't understand him. 21:06.440 --> 21:07.640 Here you go. Listen, it's him. It's him. 21:08.600 --> 21:09.640 Wait, wait, wait. I don't understand. 21:09.640 --> 21:11.640 I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand. 21:11.640 --> 21:13.640 What are you saying, man? 21:13.640 --> 21:15.640 Savant. Say hello. 21:15.640 --> 21:19.640 If you did put it for them, then you can't understand. 21:25.640 --> 21:29.640 If you did put it for them, then you can't understand. 21:29.640 --> 21:31.640 I met the prolific programer. 21:31.640 --> 21:35.640 I'm excited. Man, it was great. The intro grammar was here. It was a whole thing. 21:35.640 --> 21:39.640 So, sorry can be here, man. You're up in London, junior thing. 21:39.640 --> 21:41.640 But we'll catch up with you soon. Cheers. 21:41.640 --> 21:43.640 Yeah, buddy. Yeah, I'm sorry, too. 21:43.640 --> 21:48.640 I'm just waiting for the right moment to get the superior savant prolific programer on the show. 21:48.640 --> 21:51.640 Because I know he's got a lot of good stuff to say. I just don't have a reason yet. 21:51.640 --> 21:54.640 But when I'm ready, I know that he'll be there and he'll be ready for me. 21:54.640 --> 21:56.640 The savant specials. 21:56.640 --> 22:00.640 Okay, it's time for our savant from our series of the circle of savants. 22:00.640 --> 22:02.640 Buying the salt and the salt savants. 22:03.640 --> 22:04.640 So long. 22:04.640 --> 22:08.640 I think I'm going to be able to get at least once a month in episode. 22:08.640 --> 22:12.640 There's a fast forward button on there for a reason. 22:12.640 --> 22:16.640 And I hope to be able to talk to savant every single day. 22:16.640 --> 22:17.640 So long. 22:17.640 --> 22:20.640 And by the way, I want you to know that this format change. 22:20.640 --> 22:24.640 Doesn't mean that I don't want to make it pictures, make it pictures. 22:24.640 --> 22:27.640 I'm the salt and the sense of on savants. 22:27.640 --> 22:33.640 Joining us now is a guy who I've had some email contact with over the past several weeks. 22:33.640 --> 22:36.640 I think we probably had contact a long time ago as well. 22:36.640 --> 22:39.640 I don't know. My brain is so fried. 22:39.640 --> 22:44.640 And he sent me feedback. He sent me voice mail. 22:44.640 --> 22:47.640 And honestly, you know, the stuff that he sent me has been so long. 22:47.640 --> 22:49.640 I'm like, I just didn't know where to put it. 22:49.640 --> 22:54.640 So I did finally get around to playing one of his, one of his pieces of feedback recently. 22:54.640 --> 22:59.640 And he joins us now as our official nuk savant. 22:59.640 --> 23:03.640 His savant name is a atomic rod. 23:03.640 --> 23:06.640 Rod Adams, welcome to the Daily Source Code. 23:06.640 --> 23:08.640 Hello, I don't know how are you. 23:08.640 --> 23:09.640 I'm good, man. 23:09.640 --> 23:12.640 Well, now you are a home on a second. 23:12.640 --> 23:14.640 I got this from your website. 23:14.640 --> 23:17.640 An atomic entrepreneur. 23:17.640 --> 23:18.640 It's right. 23:18.640 --> 23:22.640 And you've been professing. 23:22.640 --> 23:26.640 And this is what really interested me and want me to get in touch with you and talk about it. 23:27.640 --> 23:30.640 The concept of a backyard nuclear reactor. 23:30.640 --> 23:31.640 You bet. 23:31.640 --> 23:35.640 And an actor safe enough to be surrounded by people. 23:35.640 --> 23:38.640 Okay, so the first of all, are you actually making anything? 23:38.640 --> 23:42.640 Because I looked around your site and it seems like you've been interested in this for a long time. 23:42.640 --> 23:45.640 Are you actually physically creating a reactor? 23:45.640 --> 23:50.640 Or are you just making a plans and following policy and politics, et cetera? 23:50.640 --> 23:52.640 We have invented the metal yet. 23:52.640 --> 23:54.640 We're doing a lot of design work. 23:54.640 --> 23:59.640 And an awful lot of the background work and the foundational work. 23:59.640 --> 24:03.640 Necessary policy regulations that kind of stuff. 24:03.640 --> 24:06.640 It takes a long time to get a permit to do what we want to do. 24:06.640 --> 24:07.640 Well, yeah. 24:07.640 --> 24:11.640 When you're handling uranium and stuff like that. 24:11.640 --> 24:13.640 Well, there's nothing wrong with uranium. 24:13.640 --> 24:15.640 Well, we're going to talk about uranium in a second. 24:15.640 --> 24:17.640 But first my uranium. 24:17.640 --> 24:23.640 Okay, so Rod, what you're talking about here is building a... 24:23.640 --> 24:28.640 Or I guess the concept of every home having their own nuclear reactor. 24:28.640 --> 24:34.640 And that being an alternative for fossil-based fuel and energy that we currently use. 24:34.640 --> 24:35.640 Correct? 24:35.640 --> 24:37.640 Well, we want to eventually get to homes. 24:37.640 --> 24:41.640 But initially we're going to start more in the mini reactor as the micro reactor. 24:41.640 --> 24:49.640 It's going to be more like large buildings and stopping malls and industrial parks and ships and that kind of stuff. 24:50.640 --> 24:53.640 Significantly smaller than the current reactors. 24:53.640 --> 24:56.640 But not quite to the personal reactor mode. 24:56.640 --> 24:58.640 Sort of like the computers. 24:58.640 --> 25:00.640 You know, one from mainframes down to many computers. 25:00.640 --> 25:06.640 And eventually we had Jonathan and his boys to invoke to then develop the micro computers. 25:06.640 --> 25:08.640 But it took a while. 25:08.640 --> 25:15.640 So on the atomic insights site that I guess is yours. 25:16.640 --> 25:18.640 There's a couple of interesting things here. 25:18.640 --> 25:20.640 And we kind of jails with what you just said. 25:20.640 --> 25:27.640 Atomic power is safe enough to float to power floating cities with more than 5,000 people living within 1,000 feet of the plant. 25:27.640 --> 25:30.640 And that's what we call nuclear powered aircraft carriers. 25:30.640 --> 25:33.640 It's clean enough to operate inside sealed submarines. 25:33.640 --> 25:35.640 True, they're nuclear submarines. 25:35.640 --> 25:39.640 Cheap enough to provide overnight power for about 1.5 cents per kilowatt hour. 25:39.640 --> 25:42.640 I have no idea it sounds like a real bargain. 25:43.640 --> 25:47.640 And compared it enough to make suppliers of all other energy sources very nervous. 25:47.640 --> 25:49.640 Okay, let's start with that one first. 25:49.640 --> 25:52.640 You know, nuclear power, you still need to mind stuff. 25:52.640 --> 25:58.640 You still need the equivalent of a refinery, which is just like the oil business, I guess. 25:58.640 --> 26:00.640 Why would they be very nervous about it? 26:00.640 --> 26:03.640 Well, it's the matter of scale. 26:03.640 --> 26:10.640 A pound of uranium has as much energy as 2 million pounds of oil. 26:10.640 --> 26:14.640 But that in perspective, you can hold the pound of uranium in the palm of your hand. 26:14.640 --> 26:17.640 It's about the size of three hundred marbles. 26:17.640 --> 26:24.640 Two million pounds of oil requires 30 tanker trucks to carry it. 26:24.640 --> 26:25.640 Okay. 26:25.640 --> 26:35.640 So, but it'll end the pound of uranium right now, even after a seven years worth of price run out, cost about $100. 26:36.640 --> 26:42.640 And really, that's all about after all the refining and the enriching that you go through it, 26:42.640 --> 26:46.640 it's surely the value must be much higher after that process. 26:46.640 --> 26:52.640 Well, even after all of the refining and rich and commercial nuclear fuel costs about 1.20, 26:52.640 --> 26:57.640 as much as oil does on a per unit heat basis. 26:58.640 --> 27:02.640 So, you can get that 1.5 cents right now. 27:02.640 --> 27:08.640 If you produce electricity with oil, it'll cost you over 8 cents to get it all out. 27:08.640 --> 27:09.640 Okay. 27:09.640 --> 27:14.640 Now, Rod, you're talking, I've got to bring it back to some really understandable concepts. 27:14.640 --> 27:15.640 Okay. 27:15.640 --> 27:17.640 First of all, you talk about uranium. 27:17.640 --> 27:22.640 I mean, this is the yellow cake that Iraq supposedly had, 27:22.640 --> 27:30.640 and all the technology that people or other kind of evil acts as evil countries are supposedly developing and using. 27:30.640 --> 27:37.640 And here you are talking about uranium, like you could go down to the drugstore and grab a couple marbles worth a minute. 27:37.640 --> 27:45.640 Is this, is this incredibly hard to produce, then, or enrich to make viable for nuclear energy? 27:45.640 --> 27:48.640 Well, actually, you don't have to enrich it. 27:48.640 --> 27:55.640 There are reactors operating today in Canada that use natural uranium as their fuel source. 27:55.640 --> 27:58.640 It doesn't require enrichment, if you design a reactor problem. 27:58.640 --> 28:08.640 Now, if you enrich it, it does make it a little better, it's sort of like the difference between running crude oil in your car and running gasoline in your car. 28:08.640 --> 28:12.640 Gasoline burns a lot better than crude oil does, so you do some refining to it. 28:12.640 --> 28:17.640 That's what we enrich your engine, just to make it work a little better and smaller reactor. 28:17.640 --> 28:20.640 Okay, and build a reactor with natural uranium. 28:20.640 --> 28:24.640 And this uranium, it's a natural element that comes out of the earth. 28:24.640 --> 28:27.640 I mean, is this just an endless supply? 28:27.640 --> 28:30.640 Is it only found in certain locations? 28:30.640 --> 28:35.640 I'm really trying to figure out how viable this is as an alternative to other energy sources. 28:35.640 --> 28:37.640 Where do we get the uranium from? 28:37.640 --> 28:39.640 Is it in my backyard already? 28:39.640 --> 28:42.640 Cause I made some of your backyard. 28:42.640 --> 28:44.640 I wanted to be my neighbor's backyard. 28:44.640 --> 28:46.640 I don't want uranium in my backyard. 28:46.640 --> 28:48.640 Well, it's pretty common. 28:48.640 --> 28:51.640 It's pretty widely distributed to the earth. 28:51.640 --> 28:53.640 It's about as common as 10. 28:53.640 --> 28:57.640 There are some places in the world that have very nice supplies of uranium. 28:57.640 --> 29:04.640 Particularly the major sources of uranium in the world are Australia, which has about a third of the world's known supplies. 29:04.640 --> 29:08.640 And Canada, which has about 25% of the world's known supplies. 29:08.640 --> 29:10.640 The US has a lot. 29:11.640 --> 29:18.640 And there's deposits in Kazakhstan and a bunch of other places that are very economical to mind. 29:18.640 --> 29:23.640 But worldwide, there's really no limit to where you can mind uranium. 29:23.640 --> 29:25.640 It's pretty widely distributed. 29:25.640 --> 29:29.640 Right, but that's what we thought about oil initially as well. 29:29.640 --> 29:31.640 It can run out, I presume. 29:31.640 --> 29:38.640 Well, we've been looking seriously for oil and using a lot of it for 150 years. 29:38.640 --> 29:41.640 Now, uranium is far more energy dense. 29:41.640 --> 29:44.640 Like I said, one pound of uranium is worth 2,000,000 pounds of oil. 29:44.640 --> 29:45.640 Right. 29:45.640 --> 29:46.640 It's widely distributed. 29:46.640 --> 29:49.640 And we've only really used it for a very short period of time. 29:49.640 --> 29:55.640 You know, we haven't used it for energy until that 1957 was the first commercial power plant. 29:55.640 --> 30:01.640 And not only that, we found as much as we needed in about the first 10 years of looking 30:01.640 --> 30:04.640 and really haven't looked much in the last 30 years. 30:05.640 --> 30:10.640 And the reason to stop looking was the price got so low that it was economical to develop it. 30:10.640 --> 30:14.640 Look at, abandoned mines in the US that are still full of uranium. 30:14.640 --> 30:18.640 We just stopped producing it because the price was too low. 30:18.640 --> 30:19.640 Okay. 30:19.640 --> 30:23.640 So, and that, by the way, can also be a significant problem. 30:23.640 --> 30:25.640 Because someone's less to go in and mind this stuff. 30:25.640 --> 30:26.640 Right. 30:26.640 --> 30:32.640 The price is now almost 10 times, but it was 7 years ago. 30:32.640 --> 30:35.640 So it's back to an economical mineral demand. 30:35.640 --> 30:36.640 Okay. 30:36.640 --> 30:42.640 So how much will a backyard nuke reactor cost me to power my home? 30:42.640 --> 30:46.640 Just, you know, taking into account that we are down the line somewhere. 30:46.640 --> 30:50.640 We've gone past the main frame where the PC version of the nuclear reactor. 30:50.640 --> 30:52.640 What's it going to cost me, Rod? 30:53.640 --> 30:56.640 That's how I get to the PC version. 30:56.640 --> 31:00.640 We'll probably be looking at $50,000 to power your home. 31:00.640 --> 31:04.640 But that'll last you for about 30 years without any new fuel. 31:04.640 --> 31:06.640 That's pretty cool. 31:06.640 --> 31:07.640 Yeah. 31:07.640 --> 31:09.640 But it was at all depends on a bigger house. 31:09.640 --> 31:11.640 Your house may be more developed. 31:11.640 --> 31:12.640 Yeah. 31:12.640 --> 31:14.640 But still, 50,000. 31:14.640 --> 31:19.640 And after 30 years, you can fill her back up. 31:19.640 --> 31:21.640 I mean, do you have to get rid of the whole reactor? 31:21.640 --> 31:23.640 I mean, what's the idea here? 31:23.640 --> 31:25.640 And of course, the obvious questions. 31:25.640 --> 31:28.640 What do we do with the waste and how about the dangers? 31:28.640 --> 31:29.640 Yeah. 31:29.640 --> 31:31.640 Well, the waste is very small. 31:31.640 --> 31:33.640 I used to be an engineer on the submarine. 31:33.640 --> 31:35.640 And I'm way back in a previous life. 31:35.640 --> 31:37.640 On a nuclear submarine, might I chance? 31:37.640 --> 31:38.640 Oh, yeah. 31:38.640 --> 31:40.640 We'll see on account we have a new way. 31:40.640 --> 31:41.640 We don't really. 31:41.640 --> 31:45.640 We don't have like old fashioned coal submarines or beans or something like that. 31:45.640 --> 31:48.640 I mean, you don't have steam engine submarines. 31:48.640 --> 31:50.640 Well, we do have steam engines submarines. 31:50.640 --> 31:53.640 But they are heated with nuclear energy. 31:53.640 --> 31:54.640 Okay. 31:54.640 --> 31:55.640 Right. 31:55.640 --> 31:56.640 I'm sorry. 31:56.640 --> 31:58.640 We got rid of our last diesel sub probably can. 31:58.640 --> 32:01.640 Well, actually, we had one diesel sub that we just beat commission, 32:01.640 --> 32:05.640 but it was a very specialized deep diving submarine. 32:05.640 --> 32:08.640 But other than that, let me just tell you what's the sub in the Navy in 10 years. 32:08.640 --> 32:09.640 That's going to tell you, man. 32:09.640 --> 32:10.640 There's two things I love. 32:10.640 --> 32:12.640 I love flying and I love submarines. 32:12.640 --> 32:13.640 I cannot tell you. 32:13.640 --> 32:17.640 I am so enchanted by, you know, run silent, run deep. 32:18.640 --> 32:19.640 Ice station zebra. 32:19.640 --> 32:21.640 I've seen all the movies with all the submarines. 32:21.640 --> 32:22.640 I love that shit. 32:22.640 --> 32:23.640 Yeah. 32:23.640 --> 32:24.640 Me too. 32:24.640 --> 32:25.640 It was fun. 32:25.640 --> 32:26.640 All right. 32:26.640 --> 32:27.640 So now to the waste. 32:27.640 --> 32:28.640 Okay. 32:28.640 --> 32:29.640 So arguably, there's very little waste. 32:29.640 --> 32:30.640 Okay. 32:30.640 --> 32:32.640 So just to give you an idea of how little waste, 32:32.640 --> 32:35.640 the reactor on board my submarine. 32:35.640 --> 32:38.640 If you took all the. 32:38.640 --> 32:41.640 If you just looked at the fuel and you put it in a nice container, 32:41.640 --> 32:43.640 it'd be a container, maybe. 32:43.640 --> 32:46.640 Oh, five feet in diameter and 10 feet high. 32:46.640 --> 32:49.640 And that lasted 15 years. 32:49.640 --> 32:51.640 Now we're a 9,000. 32:51.640 --> 32:52.640 Some of them are okay. 32:52.640 --> 32:54.640 But if that. 32:54.640 --> 32:56.640 If that stuff ever gets out of its container, 32:56.640 --> 32:58.640 it could potentially contaminate surrounding. 32:58.640 --> 32:59.640 What do you think it is green? 32:59.640 --> 33:00.640 Who's or something? 33:00.640 --> 33:01.640 I don't know. 33:01.640 --> 33:02.640 What is it? 33:02.640 --> 33:04.640 It's solid. 33:04.640 --> 33:05.640 Ceramic. 33:05.640 --> 33:06.640 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. 33:06.640 --> 33:08.640 I told you, bro, you don't get my face, man. 33:08.640 --> 33:10.640 I'm not like an anti-nube guy. 33:10.640 --> 33:12.640 I'm just trying to figure it out. 33:12.640 --> 33:13.640 No, it's. 33:13.640 --> 33:14.640 It. 33:14.640 --> 33:17.640 It's a material that they can't leak because it's. 33:17.640 --> 33:18.640 It's solid. 33:18.640 --> 33:19.640 It. 33:19.640 --> 33:20.640 It's like. 33:20.640 --> 33:21.640 Very. 33:21.640 --> 33:22.640 Uh. 33:22.640 --> 33:24.640 Pretty shiny metal. 33:24.640 --> 33:25.640 It was sitting in a. 33:25.640 --> 33:26.640 In a. 33:26.640 --> 33:28.640 Battle of hot water for a long time. 33:28.640 --> 33:29.640 It's just that. 33:29.640 --> 33:30.640 That's a hot water. 33:30.640 --> 33:31.640 And you put it in a nice. 33:31.640 --> 33:33.640 Really infilled container. 33:33.640 --> 33:34.640 And it's. 33:34.640 --> 33:35.640 It's. 33:35.640 --> 33:36.640 Doesn't. 33:36.640 --> 33:37.640 It's. 33:37.640 --> 33:38.640 It's. 33:38.640 --> 33:39.640 I did not know that. 33:39.640 --> 33:41.640 I mean, people totally. 33:41.640 --> 33:43.640 I mean, yeah, you think about waste. 33:43.640 --> 33:49.640 You know, if what we see in your mind, of course, is these, you know, excess oil drums that 33:49.640 --> 33:54.640 have big, you know, atomic energy warning signs all over it and radiation signs. 33:54.640 --> 33:57.640 And of course, you're thinking it's green ooze that comes out. 33:57.640 --> 34:00.640 I mean, that's that's totally what I think. 34:00.640 --> 34:01.640 Sure. 34:01.640 --> 34:03.640 Well, you told me that. 34:03.640 --> 34:04.640 I would. 34:04.640 --> 34:05.640 Oh, well, okay, conspiracy. 34:05.640 --> 34:07.640 You know, just put my tin foil back. 34:07.640 --> 34:08.640 No, I'm not. 34:08.640 --> 34:09.640 I'm not. 34:09.640 --> 34:10.640 I'm not. 34:10.640 --> 34:12.640 I'm not. 34:12.640 --> 34:13.640 Three. 34:13.640 --> 34:15.640 Like the portrait, or the compositions. 34:15.640 --> 34:16.640 Certainly. 34:16.640 --> 34:17.640 Okay, and this. 34:17.640 --> 34:18.640 We can get into that. 34:18.640 --> 34:22.640 But, you, I'm already learning some amazing things here. 34:22.640 --> 34:23.640 So it's. 34:23.640 --> 34:24.640 In theory. 34:24.640 --> 34:28.640 And the theory is that whatever, in cases the shiny beautiful object that is known as 34:28.640 --> 34:32.640 Luke, it ne下 a waste in theory. 34:32.640 --> 34:35.640 Um, that can be safe guarded in perpetuity. 34:35.640 --> 34:36.640 Sure. 34:36.640 --> 34:37.640 Okay. 34:37.640 --> 34:39.640 Now, sorry. 34:39.640 --> 34:40.640 Put it in the container. 34:40.640 --> 34:42.180 and you can watch it. 34:42.180 --> 34:44.800 And some people want to somehow 34:44.800 --> 34:47.960 postulate a society where nobody will be around 34:47.960 --> 34:49.960 to watch it anymore. 34:49.960 --> 34:53.080 And then, of course, I don't understand quite how they 34:53.080 --> 34:56.560 expect somebody to be hurt if nobody's around to watch it. 34:56.560 --> 35:01.040 But that's beyond, I don't understand how people are going 35:01.040 --> 35:01.680 to be hurt. 35:01.680 --> 35:06.720 No one in the world has ever been hurt by exposure 35:06.720 --> 35:09.840 to the used nuclear fuel. 35:09.840 --> 35:14.160 OK, gotcha, now we can move into the final frontier 35:14.160 --> 35:16.920 of questioning when it comes to nuclear energy. 35:16.920 --> 35:19.200 We've all, we all know the history of Chernobyl. 35:19.200 --> 35:21.200 We know three mile island. 35:21.200 --> 35:24.960 What are the risks involved in meltdown? 35:24.960 --> 35:28.680 Or, and of course, this is something of the most, 35:28.680 --> 35:34.200 the past seven years, what if there's a terrorist attack 35:34.200 --> 35:36.200 on a nuclear reactor? 35:36.200 --> 35:37.680 What are the dangers? 35:37.680 --> 35:40.280 Not to, that's a complicated question. 35:40.280 --> 35:41.720 Let me see if I can give you a simple answer 35:41.720 --> 35:43.520 from my point of view. 35:43.520 --> 35:45.240 The technology that we want to develop 35:45.240 --> 35:48.960 is called the space dumps on a called a pebble bed reactor. 35:48.960 --> 35:52.920 And it uses a fuel that was developed, 35:52.920 --> 35:55.160 not in the first generation of nuclear plants. 35:55.160 --> 35:57.120 It was developed after a lot of thought 35:57.120 --> 35:58.960 and consideration. 35:58.960 --> 36:03.040 And basically, it is a fuel that cannot melt. 36:03.040 --> 36:06.960 And it's surrounded by materials that are very high 36:06.960 --> 36:09.560 in the country, the capacity of materials. 36:09.560 --> 36:15.560 And those pebble bed reactors can operate 36:16.560 --> 36:19.080 in a situation where no matter what happens 36:19.080 --> 36:23.520 to the cooling system, the reactor cannot get hot enough 36:23.520 --> 36:24.960 to melt. 36:24.960 --> 36:27.280 And we like that design a lot 36:27.280 --> 36:29.960 because it makes it easy to design 36:29.960 --> 36:31.920 very safe reactors. 36:31.920 --> 36:35.120 So in other words, the reactor that cannot have a meltdown. 36:35.120 --> 36:36.200 Correct. 36:36.200 --> 36:40.200 Especially when it's designed to be a fairly small reactor. 36:40.200 --> 36:43.200 And you can build a pretty good size pebble bed reactor 36:43.200 --> 36:47.240 and still prove that it can withstand any postulated 36:47.240 --> 36:49.160 accident and not melt. 36:49.160 --> 36:51.340 There's a video on the web that 36:51.340 --> 36:54.320 Chinese have one of these operatives pebble bed reactors. 36:54.320 --> 36:57.920 And they actually do the test instead of just doing 36:57.920 --> 37:00.760 the equations and saying it won't melt. 37:00.760 --> 37:02.920 They actually say, OK, watch. 37:02.920 --> 37:05.280 And they turn off all the cooling and watch what it does 37:05.360 --> 37:12.280 and it was a Australian Broadcasting Channel, ABC, 37:12.280 --> 37:13.840 to paddle this program. 37:13.840 --> 37:14.840 I think it was called. 37:14.840 --> 37:16.640 Damn those Chinese. 37:16.640 --> 37:19.000 Well, actually they copy it out the Germans. 37:19.000 --> 37:26.240 The German pebble bed reactor was developed in Germany. 37:26.240 --> 37:28.240 Called the ABR. 37:28.240 --> 37:31.560 And they built the ABR operative for about 25 years. 37:31.560 --> 37:33.640 They also built a follow-on called the Thorium 37:33.640 --> 37:36.040 Hyperion after THTR. 37:36.040 --> 37:37.560 And so that was also done. 37:37.560 --> 37:40.640 And by the way, you got to say damn those Americans 37:40.640 --> 37:43.640 because it was an American named Ferington Daniels, 37:43.640 --> 37:47.760 who actually developed the idea that they peed 47. 37:47.760 --> 37:49.880 But he didn't have the materials that now is necessary 37:49.880 --> 37:50.880 to make it work. 37:50.880 --> 37:51.680 All right, Rod. 37:51.680 --> 37:52.880 So, so, anyway. 37:52.880 --> 37:55.200 So, it's a South African's work on it too. 37:55.200 --> 37:59.640 So, and if there was an explosion, because I'm just going 37:59.640 --> 38:01.760 based on the fears that it's embedded in people's minds, 38:01.760 --> 38:06.400 if there was some form of explosion unrelated to the core, 38:06.400 --> 38:10.200 but can radiation be released into the atmosphere? 38:10.200 --> 38:12.640 Can we get a Chernobyl repeat or these pebble, 38:12.640 --> 38:13.880 be tree actors? 38:13.880 --> 38:17.880 Are they safe guard against that as well? 38:17.880 --> 38:19.040 It is safe guardians. 38:19.040 --> 38:21.400 Well, they're actually in a full containment. 38:21.400 --> 38:25.920 At least I want to build a full prototype containment. 38:25.920 --> 38:30.320 It's a pretty significant vault with lots of steel 38:30.320 --> 38:32.120 on concrete. 38:32.120 --> 38:36.720 I just can't see it failing and releasing any radio activity 38:36.720 --> 38:38.040 to the environment. 38:38.040 --> 38:41.160 So, Rod, we're going to work to actually build some 38:41.160 --> 38:45.200 that we can prove that to people by actual person. 38:45.200 --> 38:49.120 So, it appears to me that the only hurdle 38:49.120 --> 38:52.080 would you have two hurdles, and maybe I could help you. 38:52.080 --> 38:53.440 I don't know. I'm interested. 38:53.440 --> 38:55.680 I think you got a very compelling story. 38:55.680 --> 38:59.720 And of course, I need to read up and get some background 38:59.720 --> 39:03.240 on this, but the first one would be the PR. 39:03.240 --> 39:08.000 The whole PR aspect, and this goes into politics, 39:08.000 --> 39:11.680 there's just a horrible, horrible meme of nuclear energy. 39:11.680 --> 39:14.040 Everyone's going to be glowing in the dark. 39:14.040 --> 39:18.680 We're going to kill our babies of the future with the waste. 39:18.680 --> 39:22.120 Is there anyone who is trying to work on that problem, 39:22.120 --> 39:25.080 which I think would be almost insurmountable? 39:25.080 --> 39:26.360 Well, actually there are a lot of people, 39:26.360 --> 39:29.120 but a couple of very prominent people. 39:29.120 --> 39:34.760 There's a guy named Patrick Moore who was a Greenpeace founder 39:34.760 --> 39:40.400 and has come to the clean side and then become a pro nuclear activist. 39:40.400 --> 39:43.240 He's been talking around all around the U.S. 39:43.240 --> 39:46.040 The woman named Christine Pat Wooden, Todd Whitman. 39:46.040 --> 39:47.760 And after who's Jersey a director? 39:47.760 --> 39:51.320 She was from New Jersey, didn't she get kicked out of office in New Jersey? 39:51.320 --> 39:54.120 Well, I don't know about that, but yeah, a administrator. 39:54.120 --> 39:56.480 No, she had some kind of, she was a sex scandal. 39:56.480 --> 39:58.680 She had a sex scandal or something like that. 39:58.720 --> 40:00.120 Oh, maybe that was just a fantasy. 40:00.120 --> 40:01.720 That was another New Jersey. 40:01.720 --> 40:03.120 That's right. 40:03.120 --> 40:04.640 No, it was just my fantasy. 40:04.640 --> 40:06.120 I was fantasy people. 40:06.120 --> 40:07.000 First he taught Whitman. 40:07.000 --> 40:08.120 I was like, yeah, baby. 40:08.120 --> 40:10.480 I know what I do to you. 40:10.480 --> 40:11.480 Right. 40:11.480 --> 40:13.160 The other thing, obviously, is money. 40:13.160 --> 40:15.600 I mean, if you were to get into business, 40:15.600 --> 40:18.800 how much money would it take to get a functioning, 40:18.800 --> 40:24.160 mall powering, completely terrorist proof, shiny, waste, 40:24.160 --> 40:27.800 pooping reactor together based on pebbles? 40:27.800 --> 40:30.920 The first one will probably cost us about 300 grand. 40:30.920 --> 40:34.840 $300 million, sorry, $300 million for the first one. 40:34.840 --> 40:41.160 But that's a lot of it's the initial cost of any new machine. 40:41.160 --> 40:44.160 We believe that we're going to be able to build 10 40:44.160 --> 40:47.760 major lot units for on the order of $20 million of fees. 40:47.760 --> 40:49.480 See, that kind of money doesn't scare me, 40:49.480 --> 40:50.720 because I know it's out there. 40:50.720 --> 40:53.400 And well, it doesn't scare me any energy business. 40:53.400 --> 40:55.640 It's an expensive business. 40:55.720 --> 40:57.000 So do you have plans? 40:57.000 --> 40:58.080 Do you have, like, what do you have, like, 40:58.080 --> 40:58.840 blueprints? 40:58.840 --> 41:01.680 Do you sit over that at night with your nuclear buddies? 41:01.680 --> 41:03.080 And you draw this up? 41:03.080 --> 41:04.840 Or are you, do you have engineers? 41:04.840 --> 41:07.720 I mean, how far are you with this project? 41:07.720 --> 41:11.720 Well, right now we've got some engineers working. 41:11.720 --> 41:15.040 Mostly at night on their own computers, 41:15.040 --> 41:18.160 but the good thing about today is we have computers 41:18.160 --> 41:19.680 for a more powerful order that some 41:19.680 --> 41:23.040 were used to design an odd list. 41:23.040 --> 41:25.440 And we have a bunch of business planners, 41:25.440 --> 41:28.640 a couple of MBAs from Duke and an entrepreneur 41:28.640 --> 41:30.640 who's been in business for a number of years 41:30.640 --> 41:34.120 and some good advisors and we've got a pretty solid business 41:34.120 --> 41:35.120 plan going on. 41:35.120 --> 41:36.680 All right, man, listen, atomic rods. 41:36.680 --> 41:37.720 That's serious stuff. 41:37.720 --> 41:38.400 Here's what you do. 41:38.400 --> 41:40.040 You get your MBA boys together. 41:40.040 --> 41:42.440 You get them to put together the presentation 41:42.440 --> 41:46.320 or some kind of something that I can send off to someone 41:46.320 --> 41:50.880 like Bill Joy or John Doer or Ray Lane. 41:50.880 --> 41:52.280 I'll send it to a man. 41:52.280 --> 41:55.720 And they'll take a look at it and these are those kind of, 41:55.720 --> 41:57.880 you know, these are the guys who can make that kind of money 41:57.880 --> 41:59.080 happen. 41:59.080 --> 42:01.520 Yep, well, it's a public promise, man. 42:01.520 --> 42:03.080 It's a what? 42:03.080 --> 42:05.280 I said, I think you just made a public promise. 42:05.280 --> 42:07.680 We've got that stuff almost ready to go now. 42:07.680 --> 42:09.160 Or with it about two days. 42:09.160 --> 42:10.160 Yeah, yeah. 42:10.160 --> 42:12.080 Of course, you're right, listen to this show. 42:12.080 --> 42:12.920 It'll be all over me. 42:12.920 --> 42:15.120 It's like, hey, man, fuck, why do you mention on the show 42:15.120 --> 42:17.920 or because we want to get in first? 42:17.920 --> 42:21.280 We went, I went and talked to some Google engineers 42:21.280 --> 42:24.360 about two weeks ago at Google headquarters 42:24.360 --> 42:26.000 and talked about this. 42:26.000 --> 42:29.600 And we've been doing a lot of talking. 42:29.600 --> 42:33.520 But there's a lot going on besides talking. 42:33.520 --> 42:36.040 Right on, oops, hold on, that's my, yeah. 42:36.040 --> 42:36.880 No problem. 42:36.880 --> 42:40.040 Hold on one second, I think that's my wife, don't go away. 42:40.040 --> 42:42.080 All right, that's what we call a natural edit. 42:42.080 --> 42:43.600 Yeah, I have to break my wife. 42:43.600 --> 42:45.280 You know, she calling me 11.30 at night. 42:45.280 --> 42:45.800 She's calling to bed. 42:45.800 --> 42:48.240 She's oversees him to Holland this week. 42:48.240 --> 42:50.320 She'll do it her start, Dan, who was the star? 42:50.320 --> 42:54.360 Yeah, man, she's like, I can't, I shouldn't be talking about it. 42:54.360 --> 42:57.320 But she's got an amazing, I'm going to go over it 42:57.320 --> 43:00.160 because I'm also partially, I'm not going to actually be on the show, 43:00.160 --> 43:01.960 but a whole bunch of friends of mine are on the show. 43:01.960 --> 43:03.400 And it's going to be pretty cool. 43:03.400 --> 43:06.280 So she's rehearsing and doing press. 43:06.280 --> 43:08.440 And I don't know, she's having a good time. 43:08.440 --> 43:11.640 And leaving it very proud has been, oh, absolutely. 43:11.640 --> 43:14.160 It's just, I got to get help, man. 43:14.160 --> 43:18.640 I need like a full-time person because I got to take care 43:18.640 --> 43:19.640 of the kid. 43:19.640 --> 43:20.640 I got it to you. 43:20.640 --> 43:21.640 I got the animals. 43:21.640 --> 43:22.640 Of course, the cats. 43:22.640 --> 43:23.640 It's 11.30. 43:23.640 --> 43:24.640 They're still outside running around. 43:24.640 --> 43:25.640 I don't know where they are. 43:25.640 --> 43:26.640 They don't want to come in. 43:26.640 --> 43:28.640 You know, I'm doing everything wrong. 43:28.640 --> 43:32.640 You know, it's typical Mr. Mom shit. 43:32.640 --> 43:33.640 All right, dude. 43:33.640 --> 43:34.640 For those days. 43:34.640 --> 43:37.640 Yeah, my baby is graduating from college. 43:37.640 --> 43:40.640 So it's not been too long ago. 43:40.640 --> 43:42.640 I don't remember those days. 43:42.640 --> 43:43.640 All right. 43:43.640 --> 43:44.640 Well, now I feel old. 43:44.640 --> 43:45.640 Thank you. 43:45.640 --> 43:47.640 Atomic Rod, we're going to check in with you from time to time. 43:47.640 --> 43:49.640 Have your MBA boys and that stuff over. 43:49.640 --> 43:53.640 And if you've got any nuclear news, just give me a shout. 43:53.640 --> 43:54.640 You got it. 44:18.640 --> 44:20.640 What's my every move? 44:20.640 --> 44:23.640 And sticking out on notice? 44:23.640 --> 44:25.640 Do you want to be? 44:25.640 --> 44:27.640 Everything that I want to be? 44:27.640 --> 44:30.640 But for all the wrong reasons. 44:30.640 --> 44:32.640 You'll never see. 44:32.640 --> 44:35.640 Without a creative point in your body. 44:35.640 --> 44:37.640 You're forced to imitate. 44:37.640 --> 44:39.640 You try to walk online. 44:39.640 --> 45:05.640 [ Music ] 45:05.640 --> 45:10.640 You're the world. 45:10.640 --> 45:12.640 You're the world. 45:13.640 --> 45:15.640 You're the world. 45:15.640 --> 45:16.640 You're the world. 45:16.640 --> 45:20.640 You're the world. 45:20.640 --> 45:26.640 You're the new hurrayer of art. 45:26.640 --> 45:28.840 And then you're cast out to see 45:31.340 --> 45:35.140 Finding yourself all alone with the most powerful force in the world 45:36.140 --> 45:39.640 Instead of the blue and slowly drift away 45:39.640 --> 46:50.140 [ Music ] 46:50.140 --> 47:20.140 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 47:20.140 --> 47:27.480 I learned that there are now reactors that cannot experience meltdown, hmm, getting pretty 47:27.480 --> 47:28.480 interesting. 47:28.480 --> 47:31.200 Alright tomorrow we'll probably have another sabondon if I can schedule some of them and 47:31.200 --> 47:37.160 get someone willing to come on and talk about some ship and Friday of course, the maximum 47:37.160 --> 47:42.100 music football Friday I am getting ready for a doozy, it bought it. 47:42.100 --> 47:45.960 DailySourceCode.com is where you can find all the show notes, links to everything discussed 47:45.960 --> 47:46.960 in the show and play it on the show. 47:46.960 --> 48:00.520 And of course, I'm in email anytime at patshow.com, take care everybody, bye now.