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In a world where women wear
comfortable shoes and technology
has changed the way you get

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your entertainment.

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This is the pod show network, no
big media, no excuses, no BS.

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The share Charlie's six-to-niner
was $16 billion worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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In the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
this genre.

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[ Music ]

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I don't know where to go, but I
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[ Music ]

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I don't know where to go, but I
don't know where to go, but I
don't know where to go, but I
don't know where to go, but I
don't know where to go, but I
don't know where to go.

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[ Music ]

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I wish I was special

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But I'm okay

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Nothing like a nice mash up to
warm you up on a chilly day in
the UK

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Of course, and of course you
just don't hear this shit and up
on the ring

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What's the last time you heard a
French rap?

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Maybe you gave up listening to
the radio

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He jazzy, brum mashed it up for
us

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Radiohead's creep

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And Oxmo Puccino's rap

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Oxmo Puccino

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He's a Frenchman

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I guess he's a cap's brother

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Hey everybody, how you doing?

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It's a daily source code episode
number six hundred and twenty
nine coming to you from

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Yet again, another overcast
thunder clouded, filled, thunder
cloud filled

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Um

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Suburb of Surrey, let's just
call it that

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Better known as Guilford
G-Towner on the west side in the
curry manner

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Boy oh boy

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The week is going by really
really quick for a number of
reasons one of course

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And that may be for most
Americans

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And we had to forth the July
celebration so that does kind of
give you a nice little break

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I think a lot of companies may
actually have today off

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They might even have the rest of
the week off

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I know what Potcho I think today
is a holiday though

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There's a couple of meetings and
people are coming in and stuff
is happening in Friday

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We always have a food bar

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Food bar Friday, which basically
means everything's food bar

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So let's break out the beer,
let's break out the pizza and
let's hang out and complain

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And bitch and moan and laugh and
smile and cry and get hammered

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And this is a tradition that Ron
and I have carried forth in all
of our companies

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At think new ideas are previous
company we called it think drink

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Same thing Friday and it would
be actually five o'clock in San
Francisco

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We do it at four o'clock for
some reason what people do start
earlier

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And it's nice but we're going to
have a special one this Friday
because

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Well, we've been in meetings and
in conference and congress I
should say

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With each other with the company
with all disciplines departments

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It's a part of us starting to
suck less

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And so we have we're ready to
present to the entire company

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So everyone is on the same
ticket

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And I'm very excited about it

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Some of the things that we're
thinking of you've already heard
me talk about

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Or you've probably seen some of
the stuff

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Yeah, it's I think that the
things are going to happen
pretty quickly now

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Because we've got everything all
stuff is in place

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Now we are in the process of
connecting all the dots

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So things actually work in
departments communicate for the
right reasons

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And it's tough man building a
company I got to tell you more
about that later

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By the way, are we talking about
another company in the
podcasting space?

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Of course I'd like to refer to
it as independently produced
media

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Yesterday was the fourth of July
show and I knew that the and it
was funny because I had a whole
bunch of

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Collins and stuff scheduled

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Stuff I was going to just run
almost like a regular show

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And then I really got into it
and I got into a feeling proud
to be an American

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And proud to be a world citizen
if you will

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And I knew that that was bound
to set off some people

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Interestingly enough, it's set
off one of my my good friends,
good friend of the show

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I should say James

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Who calls in regularly, you
recall James recently got his
computer bag

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And his iPod and the cell phone
jack and so everything was gone

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And he was bummed out so we
hadn't heard from him a while

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And then he tuned into
yesterday's show and

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He wasn't too happy about it

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Adam, dear Adam, it's James, I'm
left in message for a long time

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I'll be very busy boy anyway, I
felt compelled to renew this
morning

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Is 6, 20 years

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It would make a lot of enemies
over this one

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Fuck yeah, I wasn't early sick

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I'm there again, you be who who

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Yeah, I just made me feel
completely crazy and horrible

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And also, yeah, you're right,
you're a mixture of people

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So you can even own the country,
you don't need it

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Okay, so I'm just gonna stop it
there

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James is obviously, his point is
already clear

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That he was nauseated by the
Americanism, my expelled
yesterday on this program

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And so here come the arguments
and there's a reason for this

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And of course, James, you know,
I respect you, I love you, your
friend of the show

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So, you know, don't take it
personally, we're having a

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We're just having a conversation
in my typical format where you
can't interrupt me

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Because I've got the pause
button, I love that system, by
the way

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Okay, so what do they teach you
in school, James, let me ask you
that first

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These are the types of blanket
statements we got to get rid of

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Let's stop with the, you jumped
the country, you stole the
country

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First of all, who's you, it was
you

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It was you guys, it was people
from mother England, it was
British people

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They jumped the country, they
jumped and by the way, again,
what do you learn in school
here?

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This has been the modest
operandi for the United Kingdom,
for Britain, for a long, long
time

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There's a reason why many
countries in this world,
including India, including the
West Indies

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Speak the Queen's English and
quite well and actually love
your queen

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There's a reason because

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Because you're columnist, you've
gone out and jumped everyone's
fucking country, including the
United States

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But what happened was, you know,
something changed

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Different views were able to
bubble up, but not being
suppressed by the

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The status quo of how things
were running in England

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Okay, and so it became a
culture, it became an
adventurous culture

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People who went to America often
didn't make it, they died, and
they were Brits, Brits, I tell
you

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You guys, uh, maybe, um, and you
know, I, I, I studied this, I'm
a student of

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Well, I'm a student of

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And now we're from our spine
here

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It's the Yanks, versus the Brits

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We'll drive each other crazy,
but everybody knows that it's a
parent to see

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Let's just like you and me, it's
the Yanks and the Brits

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Yeah, the Yanks versus the Brits

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Mind the gap, yes, please do,
okay, so

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I believe, no, let me, let me
step back one, one little step
here

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There is a tremendous envy in
the United Kingdom

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In my world, which is the world
of media, that's what I pay
attention to the most

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It does not go for politics, as
an example, but for media

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To be successful in the United
States

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Interestingly enough, there is
an incredible hunger

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In the American media market, to
be successful in the United
Kingdom

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Now it's for two different
reasons, and this is just the
way I see it, the way I'm going
to call it

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In the UK, your success is
limited

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You can probably, you know, if
you're Terry Wogan, then you can
do 8 million pounds a year

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16 million dollars a year in
salary

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I think he's probably at the top
of the game everywhere

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That is pale in comparison to
what you can do with the
successful media

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Property, career, company,
whatever you want to call it in
the United States

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Mainly due to size, it's very
simple

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There's 350 million people
living in America, or closer to
300 million

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So that's just simple law of big
numbers

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Conversely, you see all American
media people

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Really wanting the
legitimization, the credibility
of making it in the United
Kingdom

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Where the Queen's English is
spoken

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That's it, we are two countries,
two cultures separated by a
common language

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Here's an example, look,
Americans are natural born

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I know you thought killers, but
I was going to say marketing
people

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It's a part of the whole
adventure, spirit

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Brits went over to the new land,
the new country, it's a very big
risk, big adventure

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Maybe there's some envy of those
who did of the ancestors who
went over

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It wasn't a long ago after all

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When you do something like that,
what do you do?

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You send messages back home
saying, dude, we're doing great,
it's awesome here

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From sea to shining, shining
sea, the beautiful plains,
Oklahoma

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Where the wind goes, rustling
through all that stuff

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It's marketing, of course, and
I'm going to say it sucks

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Yeah, we lost the 80% of the
people on the trip

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So that became the culture of
the United States

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And the whole idea is, and this
is the nucleus

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If you want to work hard and you
want to bust your ass, you too
can be just as successful as

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Pick anyone, X, Y or anyone
here, and there's lots of them,
because there's lots of them

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In general

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So, marketing is what we're good
at

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And of course, like all
marketing, it comes across

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Brash and loud and often in
sincere, you know, and we have
to get better

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We must get better, because look
at our top marketing guy, the
CEO of our huge organization

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Known as the United States, the
president, socks, he sucks it,
been marketing

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He makes everyone feel like
shit, like there's no one in
control

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I like this Gordon Brown guy in
the UK, by the way

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I've been watching him, I've
been watching how he speaks and
how he addresses the nation

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And what he's done in these
first few, in this first week
essentially, this guy is a good
PR guy

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I think he's also a really good
politician, which he'll make it
extremely interesting

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So anyway, an example, and
actually I should play the rest
of your comment, because I can
give a better example

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Here we go

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Because it isn't meant to be
anybody, you know, yeah

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I'm rumbling, look right now

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No, no, I was a horrible
episode, but I think it's a good
fight

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I feel so bad that you feel that
way, look

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Of course, team America, the
whole movie is irony, but it is
the way the Americans are

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And we're not ashamed of it,
that's the point

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That is our version of what you
call irony

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Okay, we're not idiots

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We may be shallow, I'll be the
first to admit

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Because we've got a layer of
marketing around our skin, sure

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But of course, we understand
that team America and yeah, we
invented Taco Bell and Band-Aids

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Of course, it's irony dude, but
at the same time, we invented
fucking Band-Aids

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We invented Taco Bell, these are
not wonderful things for society

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I think it is an envy, it's
interesting because you pick
Band-Aids

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They're not called Band-Aids in
the United Kingdom, they're
called Plasters

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Alright, so for years, you
refuse to use the Plasters, you
know, you refuse to use
Band-Aids for Plasters

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And you know, as successful as
your plaster companies, I don't
know

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The Band-Aid Corporation is
probably Johnson & Johnson or
something like that, they're
probably doing okay

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The only time you use the word
Band-Aid was for the Tribute
Band-Aid

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And it was a mega smash, there
you go

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Anyway, it believed me from
where I sit and from what I see
and from what I've witnessed

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We love each other's countries,
we really do love each other's
company

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We're envious of things the
other has or can do

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It's just a fact, but look, we
are from the same family, we are
from the same wood

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It's just we have some major
cultural differences

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And that's okay, it's okay

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But I must say that I've noticed
a lot of US bashing going on

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And it's not really bashing,
it's more like, you know, it's
your laughing at us

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Because, you know, they're,
they're these shallow yanks

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Well, yes, but that's okay

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Because, you know, we see you in
a different light as well, but
to be nauseated by it

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Nah, I don't think so, that's
not necessary

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I'm proud that you guys can be
proud that you're British, I
have a sense of what that means

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I'll never fully understand it,
but I do appreciate it

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In fact, I'm a little bit
envious of it in my own way

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And all I ask is that you
understand the same for us

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And, and know that you're
welcome, just as I'm welcome
here

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Which, of course, thanks,
Commissioner Blogger is more due
to the European Union I agree,
obviously

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And you're welcome over in the
US, let's have some fun together

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He's not the whole point

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I think we're going to do
exactly that, aren't we?

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On this Saturday, the 7th of
July, the life, the life, earth
concert

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Should be interesting, again,
we're working together

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So, the world, I can't believe
I'm getting myself into this

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I'm going to paint myself new
corner, but

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It's all about marketing, it's
all about what you see in the
media

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That's why blogging is
interesting, how it's uncovering
things in mainstream media

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And how it's creating things
that aren't true as well

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It's just a lot, we have to
learn, we've got to reinstate
our filters, we've got to work
on it

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Oh, the humanity

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Anyway, so I'm sorry, I gave you
a shitty D.S.C.

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I'll try better

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The yanks versus the bits

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Mind the gap

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Now here's something that's
getting a lot of pod play and
the pod safe music network

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A lot of pod tasks, a lot of
independently produced radio
shows play in this one

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I can kind of understand why Tom
Smith says it all and I don't
care

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Everyone is lining up to get the
latest toy

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With every fancy buzzword, the
reviewers can deploy

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It's a wireless browser, music
player and a phone

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Well, listen up, you apple
junkies, because I've got my own

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It's called I Don't Care

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Amazing Gadgetree, I Don't Care

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The latest in on me, it tells me
if what's cool or hot

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Actually matters, usually not

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I don't care, the new technology
I don't care

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This modern sophistry, all it
does has been done before

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But now it's clumsy or an costs
more

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Every permutation, every
variance in you

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Slim responsive elegance, such
16 is sad grace

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It's like a high price to hear

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With a logo on her face

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I don't care

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Because I don't need to own I
don't care

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Another telephonic between all
this noise and height

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I'll come it's not as clear as
Skype

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I don't care

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I haven't got the time I don't
care

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To shift the paradigm, I only
want to play a song

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Good thing that my thumbs are
strong

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So many times we've seen this
sort of marketing before

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[ Music ]

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I won't complain because I don't
know why

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They have new crap to buy and I
don't care

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I am

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There you go

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That's part of America's culture

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We come up with the iPhone and
then of course we come up with
the I don't care

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So yeah

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So apparently one is on its way
to me

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Via FedEx will see if it makes
it through customs

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That'll be interesting to see

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I have been making a bit of a
study

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Of course I've been thinking
about it

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In the recent

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Twitter episode where they all
had their iPhones

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And they were talking about
cataluess

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Was on that one as well

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She had some activation problems

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I'm evaluating because I'm very
happy with my Nokia E61I

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Does everything for me

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Listening to these reviews

22:07.680 --> 22:09.680
I haven't really seen anyone
right about this yet

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I had expected

22:11.680 --> 22:13.680
Technically it wouldn't have
been such a problem

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I would have expected for you to
be able to synchronize

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Through Wi-Fi

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Maybe you can but I don't read
that anywhere

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It seems pretty much like you
got a plug it in

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Which of course also charges the
device

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Or at least it should charge the
device

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And then everything syncs up
with your iTunes

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Which means you really have to
have the computer

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That you sync it up with

22:34.680 --> 22:36.680
Along for the ride if you really
want it to be

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Most effective

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Because I'm not a big music
guide

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How fucked up does that sound

22:43.680 --> 22:44.680
But I just don't listen to music
on my iPod

22:45.680 --> 22:47.680
I can't stand it because I know
exactly the order in which it's
coming in

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And I like serendipity so I want
my shows

22:50.680 --> 22:52.680
I want to be able to get my
audio and video shows

22:53.680 --> 22:54.680
And of course I can subscribe to
those iTunes

22:55.680 --> 22:57.680
However, if I'm on the road

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I can't just check and see if so
and so put out the latest show

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Or if I can't just listen to the
New York Times front page

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If it has finally been posted to
get in later in later these days

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I love listening to CNN radio
reports

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So I won't be able to get that
unless I continually synchronize
the machine

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So I'm sure that they did this
because they didn't want

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Because I guess you can access
the network

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The network in two ways one is
through your cellular data
connection

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Your edge connection the other
one is of course through Wi-Fi

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And then your direct connects
with three ways

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And I guess I think when you're
pretty easy to restrict
synchronizing

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I think about it your address
book your calendar

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I can synchronize my calendar on
the fly through my edge network

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Whenever I want I don't have to
necessarily

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Physically hook up to a computer

23:46.680 --> 23:49.680
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm just
totally missing it here

23:50.680 --> 23:52.680
Maybe it is possible but I
haven't read anyone about it

23:53.680 --> 23:55.680
So either it's possible and
everyone's just loving it and
doing it

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And forgot to write about it or
no one's thinking about it
either way

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Please let me know

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To rock this mother out

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This is Zach from Las Bandakis

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And be sure to enter the
shameless plug cast on July 9

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For my interview with the one

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The only searchersy type

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I'm like the force and comfort
podcasting

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I never expected this to get to
where it is

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There's no reason to ever walk
into a sandwich ever again

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I go into like a Barnes & Noble
when I get depressed

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Probably the secret service
agent in my door soon

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Well there goes my access

24:43.680 --> 24:47.680
They're actually communicating
very well together because
they're taking shifts

24:48.680 --> 24:49.680
To stay awake

24:50.680 --> 24:53.680
Be sure to check it out at
shamelessplotf.com

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Have been met

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Are you having the plans or
endeavors in the near future?

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Sleep

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Yeah, I've been following the
plug cast

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Interesting, I like that

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And it always sends a couple
promos through

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And guys got something good
going on there, appreciate that

25:13.680 --> 25:16.680
Oh, I discovered something
pretty cool, well actually very
uncool

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I had already kind of suspected
that I was having some trouble
with the voicemail service

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That sends me the files when you
leave a voicemail on the numbers

25:27.680 --> 25:28.680
Which are always listed at
DailySourceCode.com

25:29.680 --> 25:31.680
And you should have in yourself
phone for when you just can't
stand what I'm saying

25:32.680 --> 25:33.680
And want to call in and bitch at
me

25:34.680 --> 25:35.680
That's why we tell you to enter
the plus

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Because it really helps you no
matter where you are it will
work

25:41.680 --> 25:43.680
And yesterday or the day before

25:44.680 --> 25:47.680
The Firf, Chris McIntyre from
Pod Show HQ

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He said he said I called I
phoned in my first report for
the developer stuff that we're
doing

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So be on a lookout for it and I
keep waiting and waiting and
yesterday I show I

25:59.680 --> 26:01.680
I just didn't get any voicemails
and I'm like crap man

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I can't believe you sure what
number did you call so he told
me what number he called

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So I go into it's J2.com is what
I use

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So I go into the J2 control
panel and message center and
loan behold for some reason

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Certain messages it may be
related to length

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It just doesn't forward to the
email

26:17.680 --> 26:21.680
So who knows what freaking gems
I may have been missing it
really upsets me

26:22.680 --> 26:28.680
And of course it totally makes
sense that nylon has been
calling things in

26:29.680 --> 26:31.680
He's pretty long-winded

26:32.680 --> 26:34.680
So that stuff probably just
wasn't getting through to my
mailbox

26:35.680 --> 26:36.680
So I'm really bummed about it

26:37.680 --> 26:41.680
I have a new process now so in
the morning I go and I download
all the most recent comments

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neatly organized. There is a way
for me to do that and I can go
through them and check them

26:45.680 --> 26:47.680
This really sucks

26:47.680 --> 26:50.680
Anyway, the good news is I found
the first little blur

26:51.680 --> 26:52.680
At the office

26:52.680 --> 26:54.680
But I'm bummed just saying hello

26:54.680 --> 26:57.680
But I'm bummed to the game from
HQ

26:57.680 --> 26:59.680
But I'm bummed and pod shot

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Hey Adam what's up this is the
graphic calling and pod show HQ

27:04.680 --> 27:08.680
Now here you're talking about a
lot about this developer network
working on the pod show

27:08.680 --> 27:10.680
You don't have to spend the time
in a little bit and you need to
know our first update

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First off, one of the APIs we
have in place already that
people may or may not know about
is our author and the API

27:17.680 --> 27:22.680
This allows people to upload
shows along with all the related
information that Kyle biscuits
and keywords

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To the pod show website, well
that actually being on the pod
show website

27:26.680 --> 27:28.680
We have four or five
applications that are using it
already including

27:29.680 --> 27:33.680
Not only cast blaster but good
blaster, FDL and Ubercaster as
well

27:33.680 --> 27:37.680
So just letting people out there
know that this author and API is
available

27:37.680 --> 27:39.680
Make sure to check it out on
developer.pot show.com

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Secondly, we are working on the
channel's API

27:42.680 --> 27:44.680
See some screenshots in your
feed

27:44.680 --> 27:46.680
On Terry.com, talking about some
stuff

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So I just want to touch on a
little bit

27:48.680 --> 27:49.680
A lot of exciting stuff there

27:49.680 --> 27:53.680
Considering that channel and
collecting is one of the most
powerful features on the pod
show website

27:53.680 --> 27:56.680
It might make sense to be about
this feature next to allow
people

27:56.680 --> 27:58.680
You know, it's a create and
share playlist

27:58.680 --> 28:00.680
In samples of information

28:00.680 --> 28:04.680
And different audio files that
are collected on pod show and
from around the web

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Finally, I don't want to go too
deep into this one

28:06.680 --> 28:08.680
And I'll just mention if I had
an Uber nerds

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But there is a spiked up there
called Twitter, Twitter.com

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And we may be working on
something to release some cool
features for that

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So if you're not going to get to
deep into it

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People who want to stay up to
date with what's going on with
the development

28:19.680 --> 28:21.680
We're going to always visit
developer.pot show.com

28:21.680 --> 28:23.680
Subscribe to the blog and keep
up to date

28:23.680 --> 28:25.680
As always, people get email as
well

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And info.com with questions or
if they need help

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Check it and I'll talk to you
later

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All right, the first blur of
everybody

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Thank you very much Chris
McIntyre, excellent dude

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Yeah, that's all part of what
we're going to be talking about
company wide tomorrow

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You know what?

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I'm not going to tell you about
it today

28:48.680 --> 28:51.680
Because I want to make sure that
everyone in the company

28:51.680 --> 28:54.680
Here's it from the walls of the
company first

28:54.680 --> 28:56.680
But I am very excited, it makes
total sense

28:56.680 --> 28:59.680
We can execute well, we can
execute quickly

28:59.680 --> 29:02.680
We fix so many fucking problems

29:02.680 --> 29:04.680
Particularly with our website

29:04.680 --> 29:08.680
Remember, remember remember the
fifth of November

29:08.680 --> 29:10.680
Gunpowder trees and a plot

29:10.680 --> 29:13.680
I remember that we built this
thing upside down

29:13.680 --> 29:15.680
Not purposely, but that's what
we've basically figured out

29:15.680 --> 29:18.680
We've built the fucker upside
down

29:19.680 --> 29:23.680
Court City PD, the number one
online police drama series

29:23.680 --> 29:27.680
Is now available, subscribe now
and get the entire first season
on your iPod

29:27.680 --> 29:29.680
And get ready for an action pack
season 2

29:29.680 --> 29:31.680
Coming July 2007

29:31.680 --> 29:34.680
Court City dot podshow dot com

29:34.680 --> 29:37.680
This summer when you buy coke

29:37.680 --> 29:39.680
You get music

29:39.680 --> 29:43.680
You can win an iPod or freak
songs on iTunes

29:44.680 --> 29:48.680
So maybe you guys have been
sending in the tombs that you've
been getting

29:48.680 --> 29:50.680
Look, here's how it works

29:50.680 --> 29:54.680
I need to, in order for these
campaigns to work

29:54.680 --> 29:57.680
And for us to show the power of
independent media

29:57.680 --> 30:00.680
I need to show some real

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Where they call it, customer
engagement

30:02.680 --> 30:05.680
So you would help me out
personally

30:05.680 --> 30:07.680
And you would help many other

30:07.680 --> 30:10.680
And this is only for UK
audience, everyone outside of
the UK

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Just plug yours

30:12.680 --> 30:14.680
You would help me tremendously

30:14.680 --> 30:19.680
If you have actually been
motivated

30:19.680 --> 30:23.680
To look under the cap of your
bottle of coke

30:23.680 --> 30:25.680
And get the number and redeem it

30:25.680 --> 30:28.680
And you actually bought a track
off of iTunes with it

30:28.680 --> 30:31.680
If you could call me and let me
know that would be very helpful

30:31.680 --> 30:34.680
Because that would actually tell
the advertisers that the shit is
working

30:34.680 --> 30:36.680
Otherwise, I have to tell them
shit ain't working

30:36.680 --> 30:37.680
It's that simple

30:37.680 --> 30:42.680
And of course, the first thing
we can send them is this that I
just recorded right now

30:42.680 --> 30:46.680
Yes, just going back briefly to
the Fourth of July show

30:46.680 --> 30:49.680
There was one other call that
came in that I feel I do have to
play

30:49.680 --> 30:53.680
Hi Adam, this is Dave and
Philadelphia

30:53.680 --> 30:56.680
The cradle of liberty on
independent stay

30:56.680 --> 31:00.680
I'm calling because you made a
comment about

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How the brits are kind of
steering around Asians

31:05.680 --> 31:09.680
I don't know whether we're doing
that in the US but I'll tell you
after September 11

31:09.680 --> 31:12.680
There were plenty of
circumstances

31:12.680 --> 31:15.680
Plenty of incidents where people
were getting beat up

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Because of the color of their
skin

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People who were wearing turps

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Particularly were getting called
terrorists

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Drivers particularly had a
really tough time of it

31:25.680 --> 31:29.680
And we've got to look at
ourselves

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To really try hard to get people
as people

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Maybe I found idealistic but I
sure hope that if we all just
took this back

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And really thought about each
other sort of as individual

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We would do a whole lot better
as a country as a society as a
world

31:52.680 --> 31:57.680
Too much to ask probably but
there's my thought for
independence there

31:58.680 --> 32:02.680
Right on man, absolutely so
first of all of course I stand
corrected

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I was not in the United States
after 9-11

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And I'm sure that there was some
of that going on

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As I think I said yesterday I
have personally not witnessed it

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So I think it's excited pretty
quickly

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And maybe that same thing will
happen in the UK

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Although it's only been one year
since the 7th of July 7th 7

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When over 50 people lost their
lives in London

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Interesting by the way how the
live earth concert is being held
on 7th 7th

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That's kind of funky

32:35.680 --> 32:38.680
But again I think typically
British you know we're just
going to keep

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Play on ahead we'll do something
new something fresh

32:40.680 --> 32:42.680
So I agree with what you're
saying

32:42.680 --> 32:45.680
And I think that what we're
doing here in these independent
productions

32:45.680 --> 32:48.680
At least I feel like it's
happening in the dialogue

32:48.680 --> 32:51.680
We're having is we got to focus
on two things

32:51.680 --> 32:54.680
Keep talking start doing

32:54.680 --> 32:56.680
You know I'm a big fan of just
doing stuff

32:56.680 --> 33:00.680
Yes sometimes I do stuff and
this of course is part of the
risk

33:00.680 --> 33:03.680
You know you you step on
someone's toes or go over the
boundary

33:03.680 --> 33:08.680
And I'm always quick to
apologize and retract if I've
done something incorrect

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But we have to start doing
things

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And I believe the best way to do
it is to engage other people in
the same concept

33:14.680 --> 33:17.680
Keep talking and start doing

33:17.680 --> 33:20.680
So when I hear people speak like
this

33:20.680 --> 33:25.680
I my immediate version of start
doing something is to engage
them in talking about excuse me

33:25.680 --> 33:27.680
I really have to disagree

33:27.680 --> 33:31.680
I'm not just going to follow
along and say oh yes or be quiet
and not say anything

33:31.680 --> 33:33.680
It doesn't have to be a huge
argument

33:33.680 --> 33:36.680
But you know there are things
you know you can start up a
conversation

33:36.680 --> 33:39.680
And maybe even if you feel that
way even if you do want to agree

33:39.680 --> 33:42.680
Still talk about it you may come
up with something interesting

33:42.680 --> 33:44.680
All I know is I'm a traveled man

33:44.680 --> 33:47.680
I've been around the world I've
been to many many places

33:47.680 --> 33:50.680
I've met many many many people
including Iraq

33:50.680 --> 33:53.680
I've I've been there at the
height of the war

33:55.680 --> 33:58.680
And it's just fucking people
they got iPods and cell phones

33:58.680 --> 34:01.680
Okay, most of the world has that
what you see on television

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It's not representative of the
way it is

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Okay, so if you do anything this
year get a ticket and go to as
close as you can get to Iraq

34:13.680 --> 34:19.680
Just go look at the country
surrounding it. I'm telling you
it is not the way it's portrayed
on television and the newspapers

34:19.680 --> 34:25.680
And we have this you know this
is a this is the downside of our
great marketing prowess

34:25.680 --> 34:27.680
You know it can be used for evil

34:27.680 --> 34:30.680
That's what's happening and it's
not even on purpose

34:30.680 --> 34:36.680
Most of the people reading the
news reading the news off of the
teleprompter have never been to
these countries either

34:36.680 --> 34:38.680
They can probably just point to
it on a map

34:39.680 --> 34:45.680
So Americans we certainly have
work to do everybody has work to
do gosh damn I'm on the soap box
today

34:45.680 --> 34:47.680
I don't know if that's a good
thing

34:48.680 --> 34:53.680
All right, so I found some other
interesting stuff in the voice
mail box

34:53.680 --> 34:57.680
Hey, yeah, my name is Davis

34:57.680 --> 35:00.680
And I listen to the DSC

35:00.680 --> 35:10.680
But since the reason why I'm
calling is and I am at the
cushion the cushion of run this
malls and we never hear run this
malls on your podcast

35:10.680 --> 35:16.680
Then you mall so I thought I
would say cover from run just
malls

35:16.680 --> 35:21.680
My name is David's malls David's
malls

35:21.680 --> 35:25.680
Yes, thank you my okay

35:25.680 --> 35:30.680
Well, I do miss Roger Smalls.
That's for sure and David if you
truly are as cousin of course

35:30.680 --> 35:36.680
Me familiar to familiar Mikasa
to Kasa, you know, you're you're
part of a one of the biggest
friends of the show

35:36.680 --> 35:40.680
Who indeed I had been a bit
preoccupied and and only now
stopping to think

35:40.680 --> 35:42.680
Where is our friend Roger

35:42.680 --> 35:57.680
Yeah, wouldn't it be great if
all of a sudden you heard hello
at them

35:57.680 --> 36:01.680
Yeah, you don't know what you
got till it's gone ain't that a
bitch

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Oh, I don't it's will for my six
just for the side but not on
it's indeed a dick

36:07.680 --> 36:16.680
Now that I know how to get his
voicemails he might call in
there's a couple of me you guys
are going while I wild on
nylon's ass

36:16.680 --> 36:22.680
Madam, this is Darren from
Melbourne Australia, message
about the nylon

36:23.680 --> 36:32.680
Jesus this guy is just pony ass
first of all every time he
spouts his opinion he speaks at
a different effect

36:32.680 --> 36:41.680
And he's representing some large
percentage of your audience and
I can assure you that it's
purely your opinion nylon

36:41.680 --> 36:49.680
You know, you don't represent
the whole audience. There's
plenty of us who enjoy all
aspects of what's going on

36:49.680 --> 36:56.680
And just just kind of down a bit
you know I say this is my
opinion and I'm like that

36:56.680 --> 37:03.680
Okay, yeah, well, that's okay.
You know, I don't really mind
how he communicates as long as
he has a contrarian view

37:03.680 --> 37:09.680
That's the most fun obviously so
from New York to the UK we now
head over to Vancouver

37:09.680 --> 37:14.680
Add on it's a sale calling from
Vansford and I'm also known as
beautiful Vancouver British
Columbia

37:14.680 --> 37:19.680
Just finished listening to the
Charlie 627 and you know the
nylon's finally pushed me over
the edge

37:19.680 --> 37:27.680
I'm actually in marketing. I
actually do understand how that
whole game works and I certainly
understand what it is you're
trying to do with the network

37:27.680 --> 37:34.680
And nylon just doesn't get this
I mean he doesn't understand
that what we're dealing with
here is not a conventional

37:34.680 --> 37:41.680
You know type of business where
you can go out survey customers
get fantastic ideas and drive
yourself over up the million

37:41.680 --> 37:48.680
Or the couple million of
listeners that he wants to have
but we're dealing with here is
what's classically known as a
disruptive technology

37:48.680 --> 37:53.680
And I don't like some like a
lecturer like the nylon is but
he might be better off

37:53.680 --> 38:02.680
If he sat down one day spend
some of his value of time and
read Clayton Christians and book
called Innovators dilemma a
classic text and technology
based marketing

38:02.680 --> 38:08.680
But it tells you that you know
you have to kind of watch out
what you're doing you have to be
on the leading as you have to
try risky new things

38:08.680 --> 38:16.680
And frankly that's what your
channels are all about I have to
be honest. I do agree with him
that a couple times when you
first started describing the
channels

38:16.680 --> 38:21.680
It did sound very much like a
technology push it didn't sound
like something that necessarily

38:21.680 --> 38:26.680
Added value to the user added
some sound of like it added
almost some complexities

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But you know what I did I'm
listening to you and you said
hey try one of these things out

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So I actually went down today
and put trucker Tom's HD video
channel up on my iTunes

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Got a town loading to my Apple
TV have been watching it and
it's great. I get it. I
understand

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And you know the easiest way to
figure this out is to try it if
you like it great if you don't
like it time something else

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So anyway, I hate to go on a
rant to match the my ones, but
keep up the good work

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Really appreciate what you do it
on the show and look forward to
seeing more innovation out of
the Charlie sealated. Bye.

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Man, thank you so much. Oh, that
makes me feel good. Okay. Well,
a couple things here. So first
of all

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I'll talk about channels at the
very end. I do want to talk. I
just want to go back to what you
said about marketing

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Because it is you know marketing
is hard and you're right a
company like ours

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We have to and by the way, I
have read the innovators
dilemma. I mean, I've read all
these books

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Oh my goodness. In fact, one of
the guys on our board

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Radi Kamasar wrote the riddle in
the monk is another one that you
you may have come across a
simplistic concept, but hit home

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Then there's the you know
crossing the chasm. I've read
all these books

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I'm always interested in it. I
love reading you know about
people who have been moderately
successful

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And write and tell me how to be
very successful

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But yes, you do have to take
risks and and and sometimes you
just fuck shit up, you know

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The big mistake, you know, the
on the internet no one knows
your dog. Well, on the internet
no one knows really

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How your company runs, how big
it is, what does big mean, you
know, what is lots of money,
what is

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You know, there's all these
questions that people, you know,
they look at pod show. They may
quite as to Google for all

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I know, I don't know. This
sometimes things we do and
choices we make and sometimes
mistakes we make we are
certainly

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Treated like we were Google
making a mistake within a
certain you know within a
certain segment

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Better known as the community
whatever that means I think I'm
starting to think the community
now means content producers and
creators

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And I'm actually very happy with
that there's a controversy
brewing right now around pod
tech pod tech is a

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A podcast a technology podcast
network led by John Furrier

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And so they have a couple of
interesting and famous

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People on the network so their
talent includes Robert Scobel
and Jason Calacanis although I
think he has his deal was to put
a couple of kids through school

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I wonder if they've actually
done that I wouldn't mind an
update on it because they did
use that we're abused that deal
for

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You know, for some nonprofit
goals so an update would be nice
Jason

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So here's what happened
apparently I think pod tech
organized the vloggies

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Not a horrible name

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And the vloggies like an award
show for vloggers and vloggers
is a little bit different than
the stuff that we do vloggers is
in my mind is much more

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I'm sitting in front of the
camera I'm telling you a
personal story a segment in time

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But it's really one person to
camera that's kind of my idea of
a vlog because it it already
says to me this is a video blog

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So I'm cool with that

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So they sponsored the or they
organized I think even maybe the
vloggies and they I know they
put a lot of effort into it

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Just reading through a lot of
the posts what happened was on
some marketing material or some
kind of material a picture was
used by pod tech

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Without permission of the author
and the author then so the owner
and was taken off a flicker page
which of course

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You know flicker and I've been
there and you know I I actually
went to court over someone
taking a picture off a flicker
and

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And using it for commercial
goals which was a gossip
magazine and boy did they use I
mean just Google that or maybe
I'll put a link in the show
notes

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You can see what that was about
but actually went to court and
proved that the magazine was in
the wrong

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I didn't get any compensation
for the use of the pictures but
the court basically said hey it
was clearly licensed creative
comments attribution

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Non-commercial you broke the
rules

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That was bad you can't do it
again because then you'll be
penalized

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So that was a huge win and I
believe in that and I think I
was right and I think it is
right and that's the way it
should be

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But now what what we're seeing
happen

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So pod tech use this picture the
owner said hey you use my
picture

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I actually this is what I do for
a living or even if I did it for
hobby doesn't make any
difference

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I think you should pay me I
think $3,000 is about right and
so they went back and forth on
money

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And you know then this thing
started to spiral

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So you know people are blogging
about it and now pod tech is is
the evil bastard who don't give
a shit about people's rights

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Their ownership of content and
clearly don't care about content
creators and they're being
equated now to you know to other
companies

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And it's it's just so
interesting to me so first of
all pod tech they're they're no
better or worse than we are

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There are small companies. I'm
sure they're fucked up and they
fucked this up

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So they need to apologize work
it out with a guy and move on
and stop fucking blogging about
it

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You know it's a mistake I could
see it's a mistake and I really
want to take their side on this

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So it doesn't spin out a control
because you know I pod show
knows what it's like to be on
the receiving end of that type
of controversy

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And a number of people are very
skilled and used to it

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So this is going to be different
for this company and it's going
to be interesting to watch

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But my recommendation is you
know look we're really fucking
sorry

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I think it apology was already
made

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We're really fucking sorry we'll
work this out work it out with
the guy and move on because you
messed up. It's that simple

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But what's so interesting to me
is that here again

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You see a huge controversy
brewing and people yelling and
shouting and calling people
names

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Well meanwhile there are other
companies out there who are
really stealing your content

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And if you don't think you do
business one of them then you're
nuts

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Okay, if you just want to post
your cell phone video up
somewhere and shooting a bottle
rocket out of your ass

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Great fantastic if you actually
want to make a business out of
it

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Okay, you know then you're going
to probably want to work with
companies like pod show like pod
tech

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There are others you're probably
going to want to do that. These
are media companies and they're
not perfect

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We're building an industry while
building companies at the same
time. It's very hard

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So let's you know we all look
like idiots

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Okay, let's just get it fixed
move on and and I'm looking at
scobl and furrier you guys
should just do that because it
doesn't do anyone any good

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Yeah, cranky 45 minutes. I
wonder if you're still even
listening to me at this point

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Okay, so I will I'm going to
finalize with something about
the channel something about our
big meeting on Friday

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The company wide meeting and
changes you'll be seeing to pod
show across the board

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But first one more comment about
the channels and this is from a
technology perspective the
person who sent who called this
in

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Is an engineer and a
technologist so I'm hoping that
you don't get bored by it

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But you may actually be very
excited when you hear his
analogy

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Hey, and this is a Chris
Thompson in Philadelphia a
humble listener calling into a
use of feedback on the

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Mods or channels now when you
say channel I hear a feed
because that's what it is you
know the end pump on the output

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So it comes to me in iTunes or
whatever as a feed

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So I'm going to you know I use
some different ways I use feeds

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I'm subscribed to this blog
called gizmodo is a gadget blog

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And they have a bunch of junk in
there about cell phones and
windows vista that just I don't
care to read

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And so I use Yahoo pipes to
filter it out

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Yeah, who price this pretty cool
service where you can mix and
mash up different RSS feeds and
make your own

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Output and I subscribe to that
in Google reader and I get all
that I want without the stuff
that I don't

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And in Google reader whenever
I'm viewing whatever I'm viewing
a an article that I want to
share

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There's a button down there that
you know click on it and it is

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Hello, I'm just going to stop
you for one second. I'll show
you one that a little bit

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Okay, so the filtering
fantastic. I love it

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So this is exactly what we want
to do with channels a couple
different ways to filter one
will be the order in which
things come in

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So you'll be able that is in my
mind a type of filter so you can
determine what the output's
going to be what is going to
poop out of that thing first

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You'll be able to determine that
the second thing is the depth
how many items do you I'll just
talk in in geek speak how many
items do you want to receive
from from this feed

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So you'll be able to set that
depth of one will be default
actually

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I think that's what we're well,
that's what we're working with
right now. You should be able to
go to infinity I think

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But zero will also be possible
so you could suppress the output
from from a show into a channel

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What would be fucking awesome
and there's two parts to it one
is a filter where you can say
okay keywords and show notes

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If the pot if those pop up or
tags then then don't pass the
episode through that would
totally work

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Something also very interesting
is the result of a search that
could also be in a collection an
item or a container I should say
within a channel

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So anytime a show comes through
and and of course, you know,
we're obviously thinking of
indexing the content of the show
as well

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There's a lot of companies that
do that extremely well and we're
in touch with the number of them
and we're definitely plowing
ahead with that

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So you can get some more, you
know, great search essentially
but the results of that search
would also result in episodes

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Which you could again filter
saying okay if it's if it's if
it matches the result but it has
Microsoft in it

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And I don't want it then you
know filter that one out so you
could really create a basically
a chain or indeed a pipe if you
will of the output

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Love the idea definitely going
to be implemented the hard part
of course is how do you make
that simple for people to
understand

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Then how do you build the right
user interface around it but
love that idea

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I'm viewing a an article that I
want to share there's a button
down there that you know click
on and it is

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It's a share button and it goes
into its own feed and that feed
is a

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Subscribe to buy my girlfriend's
out and she uses blog lines and
she's described with that so
when I share something

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It'll show up in her feed
reader. That's a whole
wonderful, you know, so
basically something and come
from Gizmoto

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Go to Gapu pipes and at my
Google reader get a shared and
come out on her blog line at the
end

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Oh man, I love it you're
thinking my thoughts

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Okay, so so this is beautiful
this of course already works
with pod show and if you go to
my channels and yes, there's a
link or all over the place now

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You'll see there's a channel
called Pat's podcasts and these
are shows that I put together
for Patricia and the way it
works

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It's a channel that I put
together for Patricia the way it
works is her iTunes because she
has no idea

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Okay, she's a no idea. I don't
want to have works. She, you
know, she just wants to be able
to see the shit that she likes
that she's found so far

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So I am actually managing that
experience for her since I'm
always looking at video. I'm
always finding stuff and audio
as well

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She loves the Frank truth as an
example in fact

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There's a special show that is
only for her that an a special
feed

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The brine knows put together so
when when something comes
through on that I drop it into
her feed

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The other shows coming
automatically Marie Claire.
There's a fashion show and when
there's a single episode

50:49.680 --> 50:54.680
I really wanted to see I put
that through and so all she has
to do is just whenever she's in
the mood she just checks iTunes

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And she'll see the stuff that I
put into her channel and it went
straight to her iTunes. It's
like magic

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So what we'll listen to the last
minute of your comment here, but
of course what we're really
seeing is we've got all this
stuff working

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We can and by the way, so you
send certain stories to Val to
your girlfriend

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Fantastic. So what if you set
put that into the channel right?

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But then I put the output of
that channel which she normally
reads on our blog lines

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What if I put that into into one
of my channels?

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So now all of a sudden when you
put something through not only
does it go into Val's blog lines

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It could actually bubble up into
my channel which I may in turn
put into Patricia's channel

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Do you see the connection? Do
you see the plumbing taking
place? Do you see how that kind
of distribution can be massive?

51:44.680 --> 51:49.680
Because you can subscribe to
channel so anyone can subscribe
to the channel

51:49.680 --> 51:54.680
And if you don't like one
particular show that's in the
channel then just suppress the
output or maybe filter it out

51:54.680 --> 51:58.680
That is exactly the vision.
That's a very very big part of
where we're going

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So that's the interesting

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No, I tend to use the individual
seeds to subscribe to different
podcasts

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So I have individual seeds for
dawn and through and and then
cops master feed with all the
stuff that he does in it

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Because I like to see all the
individual shows in iTunes

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I don't like how a whole channel
just have one big listing full
of stuff

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That can be useful sometimes

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As it is I have one channel
which contains your show

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And also an awesome audio book
that I know Mike Bartlett is
starting in electricity

52:40.680 --> 52:44.680
You can search for Mike Bartlett
or electricity

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It's a new audio pod novel he's
on chapter 3

52:48.680 --> 52:50.680
It's pretty awesome to talk that
up

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So that's the sum of the ways
that I use feeds in my general
media consumption

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And hopefully that helped out.
I'm going to go finish up the
stuff listed right now

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So keep up the good work. Peace

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Oh man, do I appreciate that

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So here's what I envision
happening

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You would have found so you've
you have created a channel

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And this channel you use for
yourself, but it's also public

53:14.680 --> 53:18.680
So it's very thinkable that if
you're finding great audio books

53:18.680 --> 53:21.680
Mark Yoshimoto Nemkoff might
subscribe to your channel

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Because he's collecting great
audio books

53:24.680 --> 53:26.680
And that would be the Mark great
audio book channel

53:26.680 --> 53:30.680
So why wouldn't I subscribe to
that channel and put it in one
of my own channels

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So whenever you post a great new
book that you found audio book

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It'll automatically flow through
to Mark

53:36.680 --> 53:40.680
Which will automatically flow
through to me and anyone else
who subscribed to my channel

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It'll flow through to them

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Mm-hmm

53:43.680 --> 53:46.680
You start seeing how powerful it
can be

53:46.680 --> 53:50.680
So creating the interface for
that is I just want to say

53:50.680 --> 53:53.680
What I've shown in these cheddar
updates is not the interface

53:53.680 --> 53:55.680
This is this is sandbox stuff

53:55.680 --> 53:57.680
We're just trying to admit right
now

53:57.680 --> 53:59.680
I just want something that works
so I can create the output

53:59.680 --> 54:01.680
Which I think will solve part of
your problem

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There in Philadelphia

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Yeah, if you sit right now the
output of the channel is you get
a whole mess of shit

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And there's no order to it

54:09.680 --> 54:11.680
There's no format is what I'd
call it

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Because you're getting all the
episodes

54:13.680 --> 54:17.680
You know until some certain
amount of time or certain number
of episodes

54:17.680 --> 54:19.680
Which I think is quite set quite
large

54:19.680 --> 54:21.680
So that is exactly what you
don't want

54:21.680 --> 54:23.680
You want your channels to be
clean

54:23.680 --> 54:25.680
And you want them to be easy,
navigable

54:25.680 --> 54:27.680
You want to be able to follow
the tree

54:27.680 --> 54:29.680
So where did the show actually
come from?

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Ah, it came from Mark's channel

54:31.680 --> 54:35.680
And oh, I see that Mark doesn't
have it in his channel

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It's actually from your channel

54:37.680 --> 54:39.680
And then I could traverse your
channel

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And maybe find other stuff

54:41.680 --> 54:43.680
It's really what we need

54:43.680 --> 54:45.680
Okay, and this is the final
thing I'm going to say about it

54:45.680 --> 54:47.680
Remember I said that pod show
built its site upside down

54:47.680 --> 54:51.680
We need a better media browser

54:51.680 --> 54:55.680
And I would love if you have any
examples

54:55.680 --> 54:57.680
For you to send me links

54:57.680 --> 54:59.680
I'd love to see what kind of
media browsers you're thinking
of

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Because when I say media browser
it's essentially a player

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Show me a player that is really
thinking the way media things

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Okay, how can we integrate what
I just talked about

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Into windows media player

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I don't think you can

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How do you integrate that into
iTunes

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I don't think you can

55:19.680 --> 55:21.680
So the tools we really have

55:21.680 --> 55:27.680
I don't think we're powerful
enough to produce a new
downloadable player

55:27.680 --> 55:31.680
You know, that's huge, huge
amount of work

55:31.680 --> 55:35.680
But we may be able to create a
similar experience online

55:35.680 --> 55:37.680
Through a website, through a
combination of

55:37.680 --> 55:41.680
Very, very powerful technologies

55:41.680 --> 55:43.680
Okay

55:44.680 --> 55:45.680
Holy, cranky!

55:45.680 --> 55:47.680
It's been the while since I've
done over 55 minutes

55:47.680 --> 55:51.680
We'll probably just get very
close to an hour

55:51.680 --> 55:55.680
And you know what I think we
have a bona fide hit on our
hands

55:55.680 --> 55:57.680
This is our Jones

55:57.680 --> 55:59.680
His second release to the pod
safe music network

55:59.680 --> 56:01.680
It's getting tons of pod play

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And I gotta say I like it

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Revolution of the heart

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For people around the world

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I don't feel an easy man

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[ Music ]

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The world fills the universe

58:44.680 --> 58:48.680
To forget it seems right that
doubt too

58:49.680 --> 58:51.680
The world fills the universe

58:52.680 --> 58:55.680
As something about a man, song
just for words

58:58.680 --> 59:02.680
And I love the fact that it has
an ending in that nice

59:03.680 --> 59:07.680
Lots of stuff to do is going to
be another late late night for
two reasons

59:08.680 --> 59:11.680
One I have a date with my
daughter, we're going out and
I'm very excited about it

59:12.680 --> 59:14.680
We're going to the Justin
Timberlake concert at the
Millennium Dome

59:15.680 --> 59:18.680
Or the O2 venue, formerly known
as the Millennium Dome

59:18.680 --> 59:20.680
In London never been there
before

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So I have to say very excited

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And these tickets came to me
from RB

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That's right because that's what
we call them in the upper class
program

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We call them Richard Branson

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These guys know how to suck up

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Damn I love that

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So thanks to Pauline and Morag
who are

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I got like personal people who I
book my travel through man

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This is awesome

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That'll be fun

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And I was actually surprised

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When they offered the tickets I
said let me just check

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I had to check first to see

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Well really if Christina would
be interested at all

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Because Justin Timberlake

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She's in a lot harder stuff
typically

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But she was really excited

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She's like oh, we're dressing my
going to wear

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It's great, I'm going on a date
with my daughter

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It's going to be a lot of fun

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And tomorrow of course we'll
have massive food barners

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It's going to be a great day for
myself personally

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Because of the stuff we're doing
with our company

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And of course for you guys I
hope as well

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If only just because it's the
weekend

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And you've been working like a
dog all week long

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DailySourceco.com is where we
can find all the show notes

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Links to all the crap we talked
about today

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And of course Semini Mail to
Adam at podshow.com

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Talk tomorrow everybody bye

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