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Delta Sierra Charlie's 633. 00:34.800 --> 00:38.160 With $16 million worth of airplane strapped to my ass. 00:38.160 --> 00:39.280 Do you know what I mean? 00:39.280 --> 00:42.000 In the next generation radio content in my ears. 00:42.000 --> 00:46.880 You know, I mean, you know, I mean, I like to think I'm trying to get this shit. 00:46.880 --> 00:50.480 You're gonna have to hold my chest and kiss, and I'm curious. 00:56.560 --> 01:00.560 You sure are a birdie man at him. 01:00.560 --> 01:04.560 You sure are a birdie man at him to bounce. 01:04.560 --> 01:08.560 You sure are a birdie man at him to bounce woman. 01:08.560 --> 01:10.560 I'll have something for you. 01:13.750 --> 02:14.560 [ Music ] 02:14.560 --> 02:16.560 I'll have something for you. 02:16.560 --> 02:18.560 I'll have something for you. 02:18.560 --> 02:20.560 I'll have something for you. 02:20.560 --> 02:22.560 I'll have something for you. 02:22.560 --> 02:24.560 I'll have something for you. 02:24.560 --> 02:28.560 I'll have something for you. 02:28.560 --> 02:30.560 I'll have something for you. 02:30.560 --> 02:32.560 I'll have something for you. 02:32.560 --> 02:34.560 I'll have something for you. 02:34.560 --> 02:36.560 I'll have something for you. 02:36.560 --> 05:48.560 [ Music ] 05:48.560 --> 05:50.560 I'll have something for you. 05:50.560 --> 05:52.560 I'll have something for you. 05:52.560 --> 05:54.560 I'll have something for you. 05:54.560 --> 05:56.560 I'll have something for you. 05:56.560 --> 05:58.560 I'll have something for you. 05:59.520 --> 06:02.560 I'll have something for you. 06:02.560 --> 06:04.560 I'll have something for you. 06:24.560 --> 06:26.560 I'll have something for you. 06:26.560 --> 06:30.060 Don Hennelian, pullin' over in there. 06:30.060 --> 06:31.780 We call it not that great. 06:31.780 --> 06:34.060 Agro-1, Mash is it up, it's big time. 06:34.060 --> 06:38.500 Needles, hotel California versus the Hustle Athletics 06:38.500 --> 06:42.180 taking it as noisy as San Francisco. 06:42.180 --> 06:47.020 You can find it at agro1.com or force through Mash of Town.com. 06:47.020 --> 06:49.460 Everybody, Delta, Sierra Charlie 633, 06:49.460 --> 06:53.140 the Danny Soros code coming to you from Swanky Surrey. 06:53.140 --> 06:55.780 That's right, G-Town. 06:55.860 --> 06:58.020 It is the curry manner. 06:58.020 --> 06:59.820 Sorry about yesterday. 06:59.820 --> 07:01.220 It was one of those days. 07:01.220 --> 07:04.540 I just didn't have the energy anymore. 07:04.540 --> 07:05.860 I had to leave early in the morning, 07:05.860 --> 07:08.660 had several meetings at the crash pad in London. 07:08.660 --> 07:09.500 It was great. 07:09.500 --> 07:10.700 I've been going to the crash pad a lot, 07:10.700 --> 07:12.740 which, of course, makes production of the show a little bit tougher 07:12.740 --> 07:15.300 because of the commute and everything. 07:15.300 --> 07:17.700 But Jill Mills was there from the ICAST 07:17.700 --> 07:20.860 and just lots of activity, excitement going on. 07:20.860 --> 07:25.540 We had super-aging Keith and Alan the Face Kingston 07:25.540 --> 07:28.980 dropping by and we're working along on all kinds of stuff. 07:28.980 --> 07:32.100 And, of course, go figure, there was a bomb scare 07:32.100 --> 07:33.580 just down the road from the crash pad. 07:33.580 --> 07:37.500 Now, we are on Charlotte Road right off of Great Eastern Street, 07:37.500 --> 07:43.220 which is in, what do you call it, a shortage. 07:43.220 --> 07:44.060 There you go. 07:44.060 --> 07:45.540 In not so Swanky shortage. 07:45.540 --> 07:49.340 And on Old Street, just down the road, 07:49.340 --> 07:50.580 there was a bomb scare. 07:50.580 --> 07:52.700 So you can imagine that it funny though, 07:52.700 --> 07:54.620 not even reported anywhere, 07:54.620 --> 07:57.300 not on BBC websites or in the news. 07:57.300 --> 07:59.860 But it was, you know, so probably it was someone's valleys 07:59.860 --> 08:03.380 or suitcase just laying around and they probably had to go 08:03.380 --> 08:04.780 and blow that up. 08:04.780 --> 08:07.980 But it was a very indicative of the times we live in 08:07.980 --> 08:10.380 because I immediately observed everybody 08:10.380 --> 08:13.980 because Alan the Face came in late for the appointment 08:13.980 --> 08:15.500 that he had with me about an hour late 08:15.500 --> 08:17.140 because the tube station was closed off. 08:17.140 --> 08:19.180 I think at Old Street. 08:19.180 --> 08:20.860 And he said, well, you know, there was a bomb scare. 08:20.860 --> 08:22.540 And I looked at everyone in the room and I was like, 08:22.700 --> 08:25.780 whatever, you know, don't really responded. 08:25.780 --> 08:27.300 And I was ready to roll out the line again. 08:27.300 --> 08:28.660 You know, if anyone doesn't feel comfortable, 08:28.660 --> 08:29.420 they want to go home. 08:29.420 --> 08:31.060 It's not a problem. 08:31.060 --> 08:32.380 What the hell was that? 08:33.820 --> 08:35.820 Oh, what does that, is that this? 08:37.820 --> 08:38.860 I don't know where that sound came from. 08:38.860 --> 08:41.060 That was kind of frightening. 08:41.060 --> 08:43.860 One of my devices is burping at me. 08:43.860 --> 08:45.820 So that made the commute home horrible. 08:45.820 --> 08:48.140 It took me two and a half hours to get home. 08:48.140 --> 08:50.300 I was on conference call from most of it 08:50.300 --> 08:53.580 because as we're working on sucking less, 08:53.580 --> 08:55.100 there's a lot of things that are happening. 08:55.100 --> 08:56.700 One of the most exciting things, of course, 08:56.700 --> 08:59.660 is that tomorrow, I think we'll be able to roll out 08:59.660 --> 09:00.220 cheddar. 09:00.220 --> 09:03.300 It's the new channels editor. 09:03.300 --> 09:05.140 And you'll be able to use it tomorrow. 09:05.140 --> 09:06.580 So there'll be some talk of channels 09:06.580 --> 09:08.380 in today's Daily Source Code. 09:08.380 --> 09:10.700 Also on Sunday, and this is something really exciting. 09:10.700 --> 09:12.140 We worked out this week. 09:12.140 --> 09:17.140 Dr. Cockney, our official international sex therapist, 09:17.460 --> 09:20.460 if you've never seen him, just you got to see Dr. Cockney 09:20.460 --> 09:23.020 show international sex therapist.podshow.com. 09:23.020 --> 09:24.580 Just to make it easy, we don't want too many people 09:24.580 --> 09:25.420 finding it. 09:25.420 --> 09:29.780 Or just go to podshow.com and type in Dr. Cockney, 09:29.780 --> 09:33.580 or any of those terms, you'll love this guy. 09:33.580 --> 09:36.940 He will be featured in the news of the world on Sunday. 09:36.940 --> 09:38.940 This is a huge newspaper. 09:38.940 --> 09:43.620 It's totally a low brow, which I love. 09:43.620 --> 09:45.020 I love. 09:45.020 --> 09:46.740 It's, I think it's affiliated with the sun. 09:46.740 --> 09:49.180 It's probably a Murdoch paper. 09:49.180 --> 09:52.020 So there'll be featuring Dr. Cockney, his most recent episode. 09:52.020 --> 09:53.020 We're going to do this for a couple of weeks. 09:53.020 --> 09:54.660 I'm very excited about it. 09:54.660 --> 09:57.340 And this will be about four play. 09:57.340 --> 10:00.020 How long, I think the question is, how long should you wait? 10:00.020 --> 10:02.740 Oh, no, how long is appropriate for four play 10:02.740 --> 10:05.140 before the actual deed? 10:05.140 --> 10:06.580 And Dr. Cockney's in and about, 10:06.580 --> 10:09.300 I think the London this time asking people that question. 10:09.300 --> 10:11.860 So that question will be printed in the news of the world. 10:11.860 --> 10:14.820 We're also going to run this episode on the news of the world 10:14.820 --> 10:15.940 website. 10:15.940 --> 10:21.020 So we should be introducing a whole sh-boat load of new people 10:21.020 --> 10:24.180 to what we're doing, and I'm very excited about it. 10:24.180 --> 10:24.660 Hi, Adam. 10:24.660 --> 10:27.140 This is Justin from San Francisco, Long time listener 10:27.140 --> 10:28.820 first time calling on all that. 10:28.820 --> 10:30.580 The reason why I was calling was because you've got 10:30.580 --> 10:35.380 some dude copying analog to MP3, but what about your old podcast? 10:35.380 --> 10:38.420 I was looking for the first show that you were talking about 10:38.420 --> 10:41.740 the official biographer, Tom from Down Under. 10:41.740 --> 10:44.700 Yeah, he's, he's indeed digitizing analog. 10:44.700 --> 10:45.980 What are you, what are you looking for? 10:45.980 --> 10:49.340 We're just, Christina, remember, you were standing in the kitchen 10:49.340 --> 10:52.620 of the cottage, and asked us if we had similar issues 10:52.620 --> 10:57.260 with our kids, and you got all anxious because she was running late. 10:57.260 --> 10:59.100 Oh, my God, classic memory for me. 10:59.100 --> 10:59.740 Yeah, I remember. 10:59.740 --> 11:03.900 And I wondered if you had it hidden on a server somewhere. 11:03.900 --> 11:06.460 How that would really be great if you had that. 11:06.460 --> 11:08.380 And I want to thank you also for messing up the other day 11:08.380 --> 11:10.860 because my cousin and I started a show. 11:10.860 --> 11:14.860 And if the pot's harder could screw up that, 11:14.860 --> 11:17.260 that would make it a sweet ass of themselves. 11:17.260 --> 11:21.020 Then, you know, it's not that bad if we mess up too. 11:21.020 --> 11:23.180 The red tilt choice. 11:23.180 --> 11:27.660 Testing one, two, one, two, test, test, tickle. 11:27.660 --> 11:30.460 Well, you should be able to find that through search. 11:30.460 --> 11:34.780 I'm trying to think if that episode, if that was uploaded to 11:34.780 --> 11:37.980 the podgeo system, if we had podgeo even in use, then I know exactly 11:37.980 --> 11:39.740 which episode you're talking about. 11:39.740 --> 11:41.740 It was when Patricia was in the Netherlands, 11:41.740 --> 11:44.060 and I had the wireless mic on running around, 11:44.060 --> 11:47.260 trying to get Christina off to school. 11:47.260 --> 11:48.860 I'll have to look for it. 11:48.860 --> 11:50.300 Actually, I could do the search for. 11:50.300 --> 11:54.780 He's probably, if you just search for, I would say, 11:54.780 --> 11:57.340 D.S.C. and Christina, you should be able to find it. 11:57.340 --> 11:58.140 Let me give it a shot. 11:58.140 --> 11:59.420 OK, let me just see what happens. 11:59.420 --> 12:03.580 Because we also track show note episodes, 12:03.580 --> 12:07.740 and soon we'll be tracking what you call it, contextual stuff. 12:07.740 --> 12:12.300 So actually, what's being said in the show. 12:12.300 --> 12:13.820 Man, for some reason, everything seems slow. 12:13.820 --> 12:17.100 It's interesting. 12:17.100 --> 12:19.340 Almost like, let me see, D.S.C. 12:19.340 --> 12:23.500 D.S.C. D.S.C. 12th of June 2007, 12:23.500 --> 12:30.460 May 2006, no, no, no, no, no, well, maybe it was in that one. 12:30.460 --> 12:31.180 What is this? 12:31.180 --> 12:36.860 Let's see, this is a, this is the best stuff, Charlie, I think. 12:36.860 --> 12:38.220 I don't know, man, if that's going to be easy. 12:38.220 --> 12:42.620 It seems like it was earlier than 2006. 12:42.620 --> 12:46.860 Let me see, this is from, where was I here I am? 12:46.860 --> 12:48.460 Sixth of May 2006. 12:48.460 --> 12:50.860 Yeah, but this is a rewind week, maybe. 12:50.860 --> 12:51.660 I'll see if I could find it. 12:51.660 --> 12:53.820 If not, anyone else just to shove that into the comments, 12:53.820 --> 12:55.580 it would be greatly appreciated. 12:55.580 --> 12:57.580 I'm thanks for bringing back the hip test. 12:57.580 --> 12:58.940 Is it a one-to-week thing? 12:58.940 --> 13:01.180 Should we go camping, pay for us? 13:01.180 --> 13:01.580 Great. 13:01.580 --> 13:02.220 I love it. 13:02.220 --> 13:04.060 I think it's back to your days. 13:04.060 --> 13:04.780 I don't care. 13:04.780 --> 13:05.980 Two out of three is wonderful. 13:06.940 --> 13:09.020 I mean, I got another great one for tomorrow. 13:09.020 --> 13:09.980 Young already sent it in. 13:09.980 --> 13:11.340 I haven't listened to it. 13:11.340 --> 13:13.100 Of course, that would ruin it if I listened to it. 13:13.100 --> 13:16.380 But yeah, indirectly, it isn't deed sponsored by Coca-Cola. 13:16.380 --> 13:19.980 This summer, when you buy Coke, you get music. 13:21.100 --> 13:23.980 You can win an iPod or free songs on iTunes. 13:24.780 --> 13:26.940 And ever since I've drawn your attention to it, 13:26.940 --> 13:29.260 people are indeed winning songs on iTunes. 13:29.260 --> 13:31.740 And we had, yes, the other day we had a guy 13:31.740 --> 13:33.740 won an iPod, so it does work. 13:33.820 --> 13:37.180 And indirectly, yes, it is, of course, sponsoring young, 13:37.180 --> 13:39.180 because I can't have young do this for free. 13:39.180 --> 13:40.620 It's a lot of work that he has to do. 13:40.620 --> 13:45.100 So he's being paid a producer fee for producing both the hit test 13:45.100 --> 13:48.860 on a weekly basis and keeping the site current. 13:48.860 --> 13:51.580 And I'm putting the links to iTunes, which is very important. 13:51.580 --> 13:54.540 That was a prerequisite from the organization, 13:54.540 --> 13:56.620 for the preservation to the soundtrack of our lives. 13:56.620 --> 13:57.340 Very important. 13:57.340 --> 13:59.660 We put links into the people can go and buy these things 13:59.660 --> 14:03.340 of which you hear just a very small snippet all under the fair. 14:04.220 --> 14:07.260 Hey Adam, this is Eric Port-Norgen. 14:07.260 --> 14:09.740 At Red Till Blue Bay, 14:09.740 --> 14:12.540 Bill thing reminds me of Sammy Hagar, the Red Rocker, 14:12.540 --> 14:15.500 and I've got the sun there, it's here in front of me. 14:16.140 --> 14:20.460 And here's the first little, uh, first few words. 14:21.820 --> 14:24.060 I've read it all, it's black and white. 14:24.060 --> 14:26.780 The spectrum made of shade I like. 14:26.780 --> 14:29.740 The crimson rays are ruby red, 14:29.900 --> 14:32.540 technicolor light, red. 14:32.540 --> 14:33.580 I want it red. 14:33.580 --> 14:37.580 There's no substitute for red, red, painted red, green, 14:37.580 --> 14:39.740 a mean compared to red. 14:39.740 --> 14:42.220 Give me that red till brother. 14:42.220 --> 14:45.020 We're going down the rabbit hole. 14:45.020 --> 14:47.260 I do, I appreciate you picked up on that. 14:47.260 --> 14:50.220 That was, uh, from, uh, actually, I really liked the show that I did. 14:50.220 --> 14:54.860 The, the, the 632, we were talking about the society of the spectacle. 14:54.860 --> 14:59.580 This book that Brian knew, uh, 50% of the, uh, the production guys at Pod Show sent me. 14:59.900 --> 15:03.100 Uh, from Guida Boa, and, uh, it's a translation. 15:03.100 --> 15:03.820 He's French. 15:03.820 --> 15:07.500 It's, uh, the, when it first came out, this book caused quite a stir. 15:08.300 --> 15:14.700 And, um, and so I actually, uh, let me just, uh, go to a daily source code.com 15:14.700 --> 15:16.780 and read the, the comment that Brian put in there. 15:16.780 --> 15:20.860 So what I did do is that, you know, based on a couple of comments that came in yesterday, 15:21.180 --> 15:25.420 um, that really, we do live in the society of the spectacle and, uh, 15:25.420 --> 15:31.420 and there was a whole list of things like a bird flu and, uh, uh, uh, a global cooling from the 70s 15:31.420 --> 15:34.140 and all these big spectacles that we just get sucked into. 15:34.700 --> 15:38.940 And, you know, really, that is the matrix, um, it's communication. 15:38.940 --> 15:44.060 It's television is radio, but also blogs and, and podcasts and independently produced media 15:44.060 --> 15:45.740 definitely propagate a lot of that. 15:46.460 --> 15:51.820 Um, so it is, you know, we're all kind of on a blue pill trip and, and we're just enjoying things 15:51.900 --> 15:56.380 and letting the information feed in and now we've become information and content routers. 15:56.380 --> 16:01.900 So we, so we, so we hear something, read something at our comment to it, post it on a blog, say it, 16:01.900 --> 16:07.660 uh, somewhere in a forum and, uh, and, and so the, the matrix expands by more nodes. 16:08.380 --> 16:12.620 And the red pill, what I'm referring to and what you just heard referred to is, is really about 16:12.620 --> 16:15.820 breaking loose from that. Here's a Brian knows that he said, you got it. 16:15.820 --> 16:18.780 The spectacle sucks us into the matrix of unreality. 16:18.780 --> 16:23.580 We have to choose to wake up and connect with life, to interact meaningfully with others. 16:23.580 --> 16:24.620 We have to work out it. 16:24.620 --> 16:28.220 Deboard also points out the connection between the spectacle and the global economy. 16:28.780 --> 16:31.420 One makes the other possible and necessary. 16:31.420 --> 16:35.100 The way I applaud good intentions, one, oh, so now I go into the life first thing. 16:35.900 --> 16:39.900 I don't want to get into that, uh, because, uh, that would distract me. 16:39.900 --> 16:41.820 That would bring me back to that horrible thing. 16:41.820 --> 16:45.660 So what I liked about this comment is, dude, you completely reciting the lyrics. 16:46.620 --> 16:50.220 There's no semi-hagar, definitely a friend of the show. 16:50.860 --> 16:57.820 In fact, it was semi-hagar who convinced me to take the offer from MTV in 1987 to go work in the 16:57.820 --> 17:01.180 States in New York when he was on my show in Holland. 17:01.180 --> 17:05.820 And I hadn't told anybody that I'd been, uh, been giving this offer. 17:05.820 --> 17:07.580 Because yeah, I was working like I was working on it. 17:07.580 --> 17:12.700 I was, you know, the top post on the, the only music TV show I think at the time that really 17:12.780 --> 17:15.420 mattered, it was, you know, I was riding high, things were fantastic. 17:15.420 --> 17:20.300 It's like dude, you know, what's up with this MTV gig is, is that, uh, is it worth it? 17:20.300 --> 17:25.100 And he said without a doubt, Adam, you should do it, uh, and, you know, you'll, you'll, you'll 17:25.100 --> 17:27.660 kick yourself for the rest of your life if you don't try it out. 17:27.660 --> 17:29.820 And I have to say, I think he was completely right. 17:29.820 --> 17:33.340 And since he is a friend of the show and since I know he'll vouch for me, 17:33.340 --> 17:34.940 dude, let's put some music to those lyrics. 17:34.940 --> 17:39.900 You recited so cleanly from the red album. 17:40.700 --> 17:41.020 Here saving heart! 17:43.750 --> 20:59.200 [ Music ] 20:59.200 --> 21:10.480 Now it's like a bit of hay going on a Thursday. 21:10.480 --> 21:17.880 All right, those of you in the Potsay Police, please don't worry, Sam is going to vouch for 21:17.880 --> 21:18.880 me. 21:18.880 --> 21:21.160 I don't have a prior permission, but I'm sure it'll be okay. 21:21.160 --> 21:25.040 And by the way, I had to buy the entire Red Album to get one track, and Napster wouldn't 21:25.040 --> 21:27.200 let me just download and buy one track. 21:27.200 --> 21:34.000 I had to buy the Album for $9.95, so I invested in this, Red. 21:34.000 --> 21:37.880 And of course, I expect all of you here on the Charlie to absolutely be swallowing the Red 21:37.880 --> 21:39.160 pill. 21:39.160 --> 21:43.320 So this Saturday is it's black, black Saturday. 21:43.320 --> 21:44.320 Mm-hmm. 21:44.320 --> 21:50.640 It's when the copyright royalty board approved vote goes into effects, and all internet 21:50.640 --> 21:58.680 radio on July 15th will have to pay fees for music played by the person. 21:58.680 --> 22:02.600 And this is, so there's a lot of news about it cropping up today. 22:02.600 --> 22:07.920 Jack Myers report, which I read religiously, says this promises to put many broadcasters 22:07.920 --> 22:12.880 from mom and pops to Pandora out of business. 22:12.920 --> 22:17.880 See live 365 of which I'm a card-carrying member. 22:17.880 --> 22:20.880 Let's see what they say. 22:20.880 --> 22:21.880 Hold on. 22:21.880 --> 22:24.560 What are they going to do? 22:24.560 --> 22:28.640 They have no plans to go dark, and they also currently have no plans to pay the increased 22:28.640 --> 22:29.640 fees. 22:29.640 --> 22:30.640 Okay. 22:30.640 --> 22:33.200 We'll see how that works out. 22:33.200 --> 22:37.880 There are a lot of people sending in questions about this. 22:37.880 --> 22:42.000 In fact, here's William Peachman. 22:42.000 --> 22:44.760 If you're listening to your show, via Sirius, my son and I thought that it might be 22:44.760 --> 22:46.120 fun to put together a podcast. 22:46.120 --> 22:47.960 Gee, how many of your fanletters start out that way. 22:47.960 --> 22:52.160 So here you have a mixer, three mics, and this is an extension to our other hobby amateur 22:52.160 --> 22:53.160 radio. 22:53.160 --> 22:55.160 Send me a QSL. 22:55.160 --> 23:00.160 Uh, you can see our little studio on our side, but we can never foresee legislation 23:00.160 --> 23:03.560 such as going to an effect in going into effect here in the U.S. come this Sunday. 23:03.560 --> 23:04.560 I'm sorry. 23:04.560 --> 23:05.560 The 15th of Sunday. 23:05.560 --> 23:08.120 As you know, via the copyright royalty board, we do not understand what happens when 23:08.120 --> 23:11.640 a source from music has via the podcast music network, nor how creative comments works 23:11.640 --> 23:15.960 here in the U.S. are creative comments, agreements, recognized under U.S. law. 23:15.960 --> 23:19.960 Uh, well, I think we've proven that they certainly work under international law. 23:19.960 --> 23:23.560 If we only use music on the podcast music network, what impact does this law have upon us? 23:23.560 --> 23:26.880 Do I have some sort of record keeping burden, blah, blah, blah, blah. 23:26.880 --> 23:27.880 Okay. 23:27.880 --> 23:28.880 So here's the deal. 23:28.880 --> 23:34.120 Um, if you are creating an internet radio stream, then just the fact that you have 23:34.120 --> 23:38.120 the channel, you are obliged by law, so this is like taxes. 23:38.120 --> 23:40.760 You have to pay $500 a year. 23:40.840 --> 23:43.480 This does not count for podcasts. 23:43.480 --> 23:47.560 This is for streaming the streaming version of internet radio. 23:47.560 --> 23:51.880 Um, so you have to do that no matter what no matter what music you play. 23:51.880 --> 23:56.360 In fact, if I was going to overturn anything about the copyright royalty boards, uh, 23:56.360 --> 23:59.120 decision, I would say that would be the thing to overturn. 23:59.120 --> 24:02.360 Take away the $500 minimum payment. 24:02.360 --> 24:03.880 That's horseshit. 24:03.880 --> 24:09.040 Because it states very clearly in this compulsory law, uh, 24:09.120 --> 24:13.960 mandatory, uh, what is the, um, what's the word I'm looking for? 24:13.960 --> 24:16.520 Uh, not compulsory, not mandatory. 24:16.520 --> 24:17.520 Statutory. 24:17.520 --> 24:18.520 There you go. 24:18.520 --> 24:19.520 Statutory. 24:19.520 --> 24:20.520 Woohoo. 24:20.520 --> 24:25.280 Um, which means, uh, guys who one day will have a statue, 24:25.280 --> 24:27.040 erected for them. 24:27.040 --> 24:29.800 For sure you pay this. 24:29.800 --> 24:37.440 You are allowed to play music royalty free if you have a prior arrangement with the artist. 24:37.440 --> 24:39.240 Well, you have exactly that. 24:39.240 --> 24:42.080 If you're a member of the Podsake Music Network, it is a license. 24:42.080 --> 24:43.320 You have to check the boxes. 24:43.320 --> 24:44.320 You have to agree. 24:44.320 --> 24:45.440 It's completely valid. 24:45.440 --> 24:49.760 You have the right to play that and not pay anything. 24:49.760 --> 24:51.080 Now, the record keeping part. 24:51.080 --> 24:54.760 I'm not too sure about, um, the easiest way to do it, of course. 24:54.760 --> 25:00.080 Again, Podsake Music Network, music.pot show.com is to just tick off the box when 25:00.080 --> 25:04.080 you've played the song, which is the agreement in which you are obliged to do by the terms 25:04.080 --> 25:05.080 of the license. 25:05.080 --> 25:06.080 Anyway. 25:06.160 --> 25:08.280 That's your record right there. 25:08.280 --> 25:09.760 And how many people listen? 25:09.760 --> 25:13.760 Well, you know, you guys, you might have to hand over your, your download request if someone 25:13.760 --> 25:18.520 comes asking, but I'm pretty sure all your streams or Harvey, you do that. 25:18.520 --> 25:24.600 But I'm pretty sure that, um, that it's not going to be too tough, uh, to prove what you're 25:24.600 --> 25:25.840 doing. 25:25.840 --> 25:29.640 And, um, you know, it's kind of up to see who's going to be first, who's really going 25:29.640 --> 25:34.320 to go all Podsake and then, uh, and report that as such and say, look, I don't know 25:34.320 --> 25:38.440 you anything else, but my 500 bucks, and that again, really, I think if any bill is going 25:38.440 --> 25:44.360 to be created, that is the thing to overturn, uh, but as far as, um, uh, all legal opinions 25:44.360 --> 25:48.320 I've received, I am not a lawyer, of course, and we're just at the beginning of all the 25:48.320 --> 25:53.360 crap that's about to happen with this, um, uh, I think you're in pretty good shape. 25:53.360 --> 25:57.120 This is only just, you know, there's so much going on right now, uh, you, you've probably 25:57.120 --> 26:03.840 seen that EMI is considering, uh, a bid from a, um, hedge fund for, I think, 2 billion 26:03.840 --> 26:04.840 pounds. 26:04.840 --> 26:09.120 It was like three or four billion dollars from a outrageous amount, and they keep saying, 26:09.120 --> 26:17.360 and look, they have, uh, you know, like Madonna on their label, wow, um, where is the 26:17.360 --> 26:18.360 shoot? 26:18.360 --> 26:20.360 I thought I would save this for sure. 26:20.360 --> 26:25.240 Anyway, you know, Australia, uh, the Australian version of, uh, I guess could be Ask 26:25.240 --> 26:29.560 at BMI and the RIA, it's all kind of the mainstream music industry. 26:29.560 --> 26:34.840 They have decided to raise the rates, uh, for performance rights in bars and clubs, and 26:34.840 --> 26:41.000 I'm talking about significant, uh, rate increase, like 50 cents to three bucks. 26:41.000 --> 26:44.360 So the way they do it, just so you know, this is exactly how the music business works. 26:44.360 --> 26:49.960 If you have a bar, if you have a cafe, if you have a, um, uh, a dance, uh, hall, if you 26:49.960 --> 26:57.520 got a dance, if you've got a dance hall with the lunches, and that's how I'm system. 26:57.520 --> 27:02.240 If you got any of that, you have to pay by the, by the capacity of people that can fit 27:02.240 --> 27:03.240 in there. 27:03.240 --> 27:06.680 Well, of course, you're probably, if you got a, if you got some kind of rave set up, 27:06.680 --> 27:10.000 you know, you're probably not playing anything mainstream, and it's all self-created 27:10.000 --> 27:11.000 beats. 27:11.000 --> 27:14.160 But still, you know, there's, you have to have, you know, all kinds of proof that you're 27:14.160 --> 27:17.480 actually playing the stuff pod safe, and, you know, you have the agreement, so I think 27:17.480 --> 27:19.920 the pod safe music network will help there as well. 27:19.920 --> 27:22.320 Um, and this is what's happening. 27:22.320 --> 27:25.680 And by the way, there are plenty of people in the music industry who really are in it 27:25.680 --> 27:30.480 for the music, and really do love the music and love getting music out to people and just 27:30.480 --> 27:31.480 love music. 27:31.480 --> 27:35.960 And I know lots of people at record companies who, um, who really feel that way, but 27:35.960 --> 27:38.640 this is the work of the lawyers, and they really run the show. 27:38.640 --> 27:39.640 Yeah, geez. 27:39.640 --> 27:43.240 Was it two years ago, Ron and I were at, uh, Sony music, and I reported back that the 27:43.240 --> 27:47.560 carpets are all afraid, and there's only suits walking around with, you know, legal pads 27:47.560 --> 27:50.760 and stuff, because it's become a lawyer business. 27:50.760 --> 27:55.160 So while they're, you know, look, if you have to prop up a two billion pound valuation 27:55.160 --> 27:59.160 in your EMI, well, you better show that you can get that money somehow, and the way you do 27:59.160 --> 28:02.000 it is by raising rates everywhere. 28:02.000 --> 28:03.760 And of course, that will end. 28:03.760 --> 28:06.720 There's going to be a number of people who can continue to pay that, but at a certain 28:06.720 --> 28:08.680 point, we're all just going to snap. 28:08.680 --> 28:10.880 This is what happened with us in independent radio. 28:10.880 --> 28:15.320 We snapped a long time ago when we started the pod safe music network. 28:15.320 --> 28:19.320 That was, for me, that was really, look, fuck it, there's lots of other great songs out 28:19.320 --> 28:20.320 there. 28:20.320 --> 28:21.320 I'm just not interested anymore. 28:21.320 --> 28:27.320 You have a very limited selection mainstream record music industry, guys. 28:27.320 --> 28:29.280 And there's so much more out there, which I love. 28:29.280 --> 28:32.240 I love your stuff, too, but, you know, if you're going to make an impossible, then so 28:32.240 --> 28:33.240 be it. 28:33.240 --> 28:34.240 It's just going to be impossible. 28:34.240 --> 28:35.240 People will snap. 28:35.240 --> 28:36.240 Bars will snap. 28:36.240 --> 28:39.520 It will just become impossible to, to make money. 28:39.520 --> 28:43.560 So either they go out of business, or they switch to an alternative source of music. 28:43.560 --> 28:46.960 And of course, I would recommend the pod safe music network because it has all the shit in 28:46.960 --> 28:48.240 there that we need already. 28:48.240 --> 28:50.680 If the music that you like isn't in there, then help get it in. 28:50.680 --> 28:51.680 Go find some. 28:51.680 --> 28:52.680 Go find your buddies. 28:52.680 --> 28:54.040 Tell them to put their music up. 28:54.040 --> 29:01.120 It's great promotion, and it does move product for the artist. 29:01.120 --> 29:02.120 Unbelievable. 29:02.120 --> 29:06.200 It's so easy for us to walk into this gaping hole that's being left open. 29:06.200 --> 29:10.120 I predict within the next year that will be a chain of some sort. 29:10.120 --> 29:14.880 Some retail chain is going to go completely pod safe. 29:14.880 --> 29:17.240 Easy for me to predict because I'm actually working on that, of course. 29:17.240 --> 29:19.760 Yeah, this is Steve's Sacramento coin. 29:19.760 --> 29:21.480 I got two questions for you. 29:21.480 --> 29:26.760 What ever happened to the format change, you're going to do, like, weekly or daily geeks? 29:26.760 --> 29:29.160 Uh, yeah, it's a vans. 29:29.160 --> 29:31.920 Yes, well, here's what happens. 29:31.920 --> 29:34.880 You know, my life long dream is to just sit here every single day. 29:34.880 --> 29:38.600 And if I had the time, I'd do it seven days a week and just talk crap and play songs 29:38.600 --> 29:41.600 and have fun and noodle back and forth to you guys. 29:41.600 --> 29:42.600 That's what I love doing. 29:42.600 --> 29:43.600 It's what I do best. 29:43.600 --> 29:46.600 It's really what my career has been. 29:46.600 --> 29:48.760 Um, so there's all this other stuff. 29:48.760 --> 29:52.040 You know, in order to enable that, well, we have to have the infrastructure. 29:52.040 --> 29:54.080 We have to have a pod show. 29:54.080 --> 29:56.360 We have to have the pod safe music network. 29:56.360 --> 29:58.080 All of that takes time. 29:58.080 --> 30:01.000 We're working on two continents at the same time. 30:01.080 --> 30:06.520 I'm usually on the phone until 11 or 11 p.m. or midnight because San Francisco is still 30:06.520 --> 30:10.920 in the middle of their day, um, you know, but there's also a whole day over here. 30:10.920 --> 30:13.200 So I get up early and, uh, and get my stuff done. 30:13.200 --> 30:18.000 And somewhere in between all of that, I fit in making the show and really, I just 30:18.000 --> 30:26.320 don't have the production time to pull it all together, um, then I apologize. 30:27.280 --> 30:32.840 It really does suck, but one day, you know, that, that would be my immediate goal 30:32.840 --> 30:36.160 is one day to have this company running so smoothly. 30:36.160 --> 30:42.720 And so well, oil that I can step back from, uh, well, constantly fixing the gears 30:42.720 --> 30:52.000 and and putting in new, uh, new catalysts and then carburetors and fuel injection pieces. 30:52.000 --> 30:54.080 And, you know, and just kick back and do the show. 30:54.080 --> 30:59.520 So I apologize, uh, just hasn't paned out, but also I have to say the savants that we 30:59.520 --> 31:03.680 do have are doing quite a job of keeping the savant quotient high in the program. 31:03.680 --> 31:07.480 Don't mind, as though I like to keep with the original format and then people 31:07.480 --> 31:13.120 going to ask you what happened to, uh, CSP, what happened to that, uh, second life avatar 31:13.120 --> 31:14.120 check. 31:14.120 --> 31:16.120 Can't remember named Brittany, you think? 31:16.120 --> 31:17.120 Thanks, man. 31:17.120 --> 31:21.880 Yeah, you mean, um, Brittany Mason? 31:22.880 --> 31:24.280 That's right, Brittany Mason. 31:24.280 --> 31:28.320 Well, she kind of runs, uh, the pod show island in second life for me. 31:28.320 --> 31:30.920 Um, I do have to reconnect with her. 31:30.920 --> 31:34.760 Uh, while you were saying that, here we go. 31:34.760 --> 31:37.920 This is one, there was one more thing that I wanted to put in check this out. 31:37.920 --> 31:43.200 Hey, Adam, uh, Bob Evans from Birmingham, uh, so your messages are coming through against 31:43.200 --> 31:44.200 that. 31:44.200 --> 31:46.880 I thought I'd leave another one at the repeat of when I left earlier. 31:46.880 --> 31:50.920 You've been promising a conversation with your Uncle Don and some of which I'm sure was 31:51.160 --> 31:54.720 going to include his thoughts about the original George Bush and the current. 31:54.720 --> 31:58.960 Man, I'd love to hear that interview before George W. Bush leaves office. 31:58.960 --> 31:59.960 So get on it. 31:59.960 --> 32:04.480 Anyway, um, with listening to this show and thought I'd call in, uh, if you're interested 32:04.480 --> 32:09.600 by the way, this is coming in from an iPhone, which, uh, is the same device I was using 32:09.600 --> 32:11.200 worse into the day we source code on. 32:11.200 --> 32:15.400 So I just said, ah, gotta talk to Adam, you get the button on the phone and it stopped 32:15.400 --> 32:19.000 the podcast and now I hit the end call and it'll go back to the podcast. 32:19.000 --> 32:20.000 Yeah, later. 32:20.080 --> 32:21.160 That's beautiful, man. 32:21.160 --> 32:22.800 So it worked. 32:22.800 --> 32:26.600 One device does all you were listening to me and you could use the same device to call 32:26.600 --> 32:27.600 back. 32:27.600 --> 32:29.040 Ah, it's loving that. 32:29.040 --> 32:34.680 Yeah, second week of August, we have a curry family reunion in New York, upstate 32:34.680 --> 32:41.080 and Armank, uh, where Uncle Don lives with Aunt Meg, uh, Aunt Meg is my dad's sister. 32:41.080 --> 32:42.320 And it's going to be the big to do. 32:42.320 --> 32:44.080 It's going to be a boatload of people. 32:44.080 --> 32:46.040 And that is when I'm going to nail down Uncle Don. 32:46.040 --> 32:48.120 We're going to do a nice, long sit down chat. 32:48.120 --> 32:51.480 I hope to be able to do enough for two or three episodes. 32:51.480 --> 32:55.880 And I think, uh, I think it will blow you away when we really get into, uh, and I think 32:55.880 --> 33:02.120 he's going to be pretty darn open, you know, he's, um, he's now 80, I think he's close to 33:02.120 --> 33:03.120 it. 33:03.120 --> 33:06.600 Uh, and the guy is still just, you know, in New York every day and he's, you know, saving 33:06.600 --> 33:07.600 the world. 33:07.600 --> 33:11.040 It reminds me, of course, a lot of my grandfather, my grandfather was at his Remington 33:11.040 --> 33:15.480 typewriter, you know, banging out letters to his congressman every single day and night. 33:15.480 --> 33:21.080 Uncle Don was in the midst of it all, uh, and the midst of the Bush administration. 33:21.080 --> 33:25.160 And, uh, had some very poignant views on the, uh, the current Bush administration. 33:25.160 --> 33:27.480 So, uh, yeah, you can count on it for sure. 33:27.480 --> 33:28.480 Adam, hello. 33:28.480 --> 33:30.480 This is a bit of a sound scene tour. 33:30.480 --> 33:32.480 I'm on Shostown, we have a UW-1. 33:32.480 --> 33:35.720 Shostown, we have a new W1 in the heart of London. 33:35.720 --> 33:36.720 So, hope. 33:36.720 --> 33:40.760 I'm sitting outside and laying his arm with the, uh, terrible. 33:40.760 --> 33:42.760 You mean, lemme's rabble. 33:42.920 --> 33:44.920 Terrible production has been going for too many years. 33:44.920 --> 33:49.720 It's all of your lovely, uh, Americans' factories seem to adore so much. 33:49.720 --> 33:52.920 I guess because it has a, uh, post-face, little girl on fun. 33:52.920 --> 33:57.520 Anyway, hey, yeah, that's a sound of, uh, back all the past nine in the morning and 33:57.520 --> 33:58.800 the half past, can't remember. 33:58.800 --> 34:06.000 I just want to say, um, Shostown, you're always on the money, uh, really enjoy listening 34:06.000 --> 34:11.840 to the CSB, uh, comments, um, and in contrast to that, as Adam said, 34:11.920 --> 34:14.840 you can try to review from, uh, 34:14.840 --> 34:16.840 what's his face? 34:16.840 --> 34:17.840 No, I don't. 34:17.840 --> 34:19.840 Oh, I really enjoy listening to him too. 34:19.840 --> 34:22.840 I don't know if I'm going to get so well now, up by him. 34:22.840 --> 34:23.840 What's your problem, guys? 34:23.840 --> 34:25.840 Back out, chill. 34:25.840 --> 34:31.840 Um, and the issue of, uh, Americans being ignorant and, um, what have you that, uh, 34:31.840 --> 34:35.840 that, uh, prolific programmer, sorts of that. 34:35.840 --> 34:37.840 Um, I think you're being a bit ignorant yourself. 34:37.840 --> 34:40.840 Okay, you can't judge a nation on one or two people. 34:40.840 --> 34:44.840 Um, and, um, and what I'd say to come to Shostown is, uh, 34:44.840 --> 34:48.840 and I'm going to post a program and say you're a great guy, but he doesn't, 34:48.840 --> 34:49.840 but he can get in. 34:49.840 --> 34:50.840 All right. 34:50.840 --> 34:51.840 All right. 34:51.840 --> 34:52.840 All right. 34:52.840 --> 34:55.840 You kind of lost it there at the end, but I understood what you were saying. 34:55.840 --> 34:56.840 Yeah. 34:56.840 --> 34:57.840 I thank you very much. 34:57.840 --> 35:00.840 I was waiting for someone to call it and say they actually are a fan of Nylon because, uh, 35:00.840 --> 35:01.840 uh, you're right. 35:01.840 --> 35:03.840 Contrarian views are extremely important to me. 35:03.840 --> 35:08.840 Um, it's, uh, it is, you know, if you want to feed me the machine, then you got to say something 35:08.840 --> 35:10.840 completely the opposite to what I'm thinking. 35:10.840 --> 35:11.840 Hello. 35:11.840 --> 35:12.840 He's Nylon. 35:12.840 --> 35:14.840 I'll spoken to Beatriz. 35:14.840 --> 35:18.840 He's in London, but he's from New York. 35:18.840 --> 35:19.840 Whoa. 35:19.840 --> 35:21.840 He's Nylon. 35:21.840 --> 35:22.840 Contrarian views. 35:22.840 --> 35:26.840 He's in London, but he's from New York. 35:26.840 --> 35:28.840 Come on in Nylon. 35:28.840 --> 35:29.840 Hey, Adam. 35:29.840 --> 35:30.840 It's the Nylon. 35:30.840 --> 35:31.840 Whew. 35:31.840 --> 35:33.840 After a week of battering, um, 35:33.840 --> 35:35.840 I'm still standing. 35:35.840 --> 35:37.840 But here's my points today. 35:38.840 --> 35:43.840 Um, a lot of personal comments and very little discussion and dialogue on the issues. 35:43.840 --> 35:45.840 Let me get to a couple of things. 35:45.840 --> 35:46.840 No. 35:46.840 --> 35:47.840 Nylon. 35:47.840 --> 35:48.840 Welcome to show business, my friend. 35:48.840 --> 35:51.840 Of course, no one's ever going to address the issues. 35:51.840 --> 35:53.840 It's all about the spectacle. 35:53.840 --> 35:54.840 Not an actor. 35:54.840 --> 35:56.840 I'm not on the part show payroll. 35:56.840 --> 35:59.840 I'm a successful executive with a successful, 35:59.840 --> 36:03.840 working for a successful company living in a wealthy suburb just like Adam. 36:03.840 --> 36:04.840 Okay. 36:04.840 --> 36:05.840 Dude. 36:05.840 --> 36:06.840 I appreciate it. 36:06.840 --> 36:08.840 Just for once the next time you call in, 36:08.840 --> 36:11.840 if you tell us what you do. 36:11.840 --> 36:13.840 Um, so that's me. 36:13.840 --> 36:17.840 Now for about 8,000 of you who attend to have a lot of comments about me. 36:17.840 --> 36:20.840 I would like you to also have a full disclosure when you call, 36:20.840 --> 36:22.840 particularly when you criticize me, 36:22.840 --> 36:24.840 others or actually support Adam. 36:24.840 --> 36:26.840 And therefore, I would like you to say also, 36:26.840 --> 36:29.840 um, to let us know if you have any professional, 36:29.840 --> 36:34.840 contractual or financial interest in the part show. 36:34.840 --> 36:35.840 Dude. 36:35.840 --> 36:36.840 Dude. 36:36.840 --> 36:37.840 Dude. 36:37.840 --> 36:38.840 Dude. 36:38.840 --> 36:39.840 Dude. 36:39.840 --> 36:40.840 You're so misguided. 36:40.840 --> 36:41.840 Nylon. 36:41.840 --> 36:42.840 I wish. 36:42.840 --> 36:44.840 I wish I had the whole company listening to this show. 36:44.840 --> 36:47.840 You know, hard it is to get the people in the company to listen to this program. 36:47.840 --> 36:48.840 Let alone call in. 36:48.840 --> 36:49.840 No. 36:49.840 --> 36:50.840 I can tell you right now. 36:50.840 --> 36:52.840 Not a single person who's ever said anything about you on this program. 36:52.840 --> 36:55.840 Has any financial business, 36:55.840 --> 36:57.840 professional, etc. 36:57.840 --> 37:00.840 relationship with Pod Show with me or this program. 37:00.840 --> 37:03.840 But that sort of disclaimer you would have in any other arena when you're making comments. 37:03.840 --> 37:06.840 If you do have any sort of affiliation with Pod Show, 37:06.840 --> 37:13.840 give us a chance to then understand if you buy it or there's a self-interest involved in your comments. 37:13.840 --> 37:15.840 Now, about the comments. 37:15.840 --> 37:22.840 If you think I'm an asshole because I'm discussing product push versus marketing lead strategies. 37:22.840 --> 37:27.840 Well, then you've already never worked in any major company because every company deals with that. 37:27.840 --> 37:30.840 So tell me why that's an unreasonable perception. 37:30.840 --> 37:32.840 Let's talk about that issue. 37:33.840 --> 37:39.840 If you think I'm unreasonable for thinking that hiring a print journalist who hasn't like any invention in the last five years. 37:39.840 --> 37:41.840 Okay. Now, I'm just going to jump in here. 37:41.840 --> 37:42.840 Nylon, you're doing okay. 37:42.840 --> 37:45.840 But then you say such blatant things about John C. DeVorac. 37:45.840 --> 37:48.840 I think you should back that up because DeVorac. 37:48.840 --> 37:50.840 Let me just give you one thing. 37:50.840 --> 37:53.840 The reason why I really want to DeVorac is cranky geeks. 37:53.840 --> 37:55.840 When I saw cranky geeks and we've got a show for you, man. 37:55.840 --> 37:57.840 You have no idea what we're putting together. 37:57.840 --> 37:59.840 It's going to be awesome. 37:59.840 --> 38:01.840 He brings credibility. 38:01.840 --> 38:03.840 I don't have to explain that. 38:03.840 --> 38:05.840 He doesn't have to be innovative. 38:05.840 --> 38:06.840 He just has to go with the flow. 38:06.840 --> 38:10.840 For him, for him just going with the flow is innovation. 38:10.840 --> 38:12.840 And he's fine with that. 38:12.840 --> 38:16.840 So it's not, it's not about, you know, any innovative. 38:16.840 --> 38:19.840 He's been a print journalist for 25 years. 38:19.840 --> 38:21.840 He's also been around the block. 38:21.840 --> 38:22.840 He's seen the hype. 38:22.840 --> 38:24.840 He knows how to dissect it. 38:24.840 --> 38:26.840 And he's still here. 38:26.840 --> 38:27.840 Kapish. 38:28.840 --> 38:30.840 To transform a technology channel. 38:30.840 --> 38:32.840 Is it unreasonable perception? 38:32.840 --> 38:34.840 Please talk to me about that. 38:34.840 --> 38:38.840 And also tell me how many times you've downloaded tech files. 38:38.840 --> 38:43.840 And if you think the commercialization of Trinity is a ridiculous observation, 38:43.840 --> 38:44.840 can be my ride. 38:44.840 --> 38:46.840 Well, let's talk about that eight months on. 38:46.840 --> 38:48.840 And I'm still waiting for the announcement six weeks ago. 38:48.840 --> 38:49.840 You promised to add them. 38:49.840 --> 38:50.840 Yep. 38:50.840 --> 38:53.840 So anyway, I recognize your entourage. 38:53.840 --> 38:58.840 I believe you have a new Ron Hubbard of the new wave, new media world. 38:58.840 --> 39:00.840 Let's just understand. 39:00.840 --> 39:01.840 I'm a listener. 39:01.840 --> 39:03.840 I'm a listener who disagrees sometimes. 39:03.840 --> 39:06.840 It's probably makes me, among the most engaged listeners. 39:06.840 --> 39:07.840 Yes. 39:07.840 --> 39:10.840 But just because I'm a listener doesn't mean I don't circulate. 39:10.840 --> 39:11.840 Right, nylon. 39:11.840 --> 39:12.840 nylon. 39:12.840 --> 39:13.840 nylon, dude. 39:13.840 --> 39:14.840 I love you. 39:14.840 --> 39:15.840 Of course you don't have to drink the cool light. 39:15.840 --> 39:18.840 And please, let's take a contrarian view to something new. 39:18.840 --> 39:19.840 Okay. 39:19.840 --> 39:21.840 Let's get off the Devorex subject and let's move on. 39:22.840 --> 39:24.840 Let's have a word with the nylon. 39:24.840 --> 39:29.840 Spreading the news with the smile on where the roll is right. 39:29.840 --> 39:30.840 Ringo for light. 39:30.840 --> 39:32.840 Let's listen for a while. 39:32.840 --> 39:33.840 And the nylon. 39:33.840 --> 39:38.840 Let's one, two, one, six, two, five. 39:38.840 --> 39:41.840 Six, three, five, seven. 39:41.840 --> 39:46.840 Let's one, two, one, six, two, five. 39:46.840 --> 39:49.840 Six, three, five, seven. 39:49.840 --> 39:53.840 So if you've got yourself a cell phone, put that number in. 39:53.840 --> 39:56.840 And whenever you want to say something, the minute you hear it on the show, 39:56.840 --> 39:57.840 you can pick up the cell phone. 39:57.840 --> 40:00.840 It may even be the same device you're using to listen to the show, 40:00.840 --> 40:03.840 i.e. an iPhone, or even the Nokia's can do that. 40:03.840 --> 40:04.840 And call me, please. 40:04.840 --> 40:05.840 Hi, Adam. 40:05.840 --> 40:06.840 It's DJ. 40:06.840 --> 40:08.840 You've gone point users at org. 40:08.840 --> 40:10.840 As usual, in traffic. 40:10.840 --> 40:12.840 And I was listening to your daily source code. 40:12.840 --> 40:16.840 So if it's as usual in traffic, then you must be from Holland, dude. 40:16.840 --> 40:18.840 Subscribe on the N800. 40:18.840 --> 40:23.840 And I figured out myself last week that when you crank up the main volume 40:23.840 --> 40:26.840 on the internet tablet. 40:26.840 --> 40:28.840 And then crank up the volume in Skype. 40:28.840 --> 40:29.840 It gets a lot better. 40:29.840 --> 40:32.840 It seems that the two volume slides are not hooked up together 40:32.840 --> 40:33.840 for some reason or the other. 40:33.840 --> 40:34.840 Yeah, I noticed that as well. 40:34.840 --> 40:36.840 You know, a lot of people have been calling in about, 40:36.840 --> 40:39.840 about me talking about Skype on the N800. 40:39.840 --> 40:41.840 So that might help. 40:41.840 --> 40:42.840 Something else. 40:42.840 --> 40:45.840 You should definitely get yourself a contract with notes. 40:45.840 --> 40:48.840 Because, uh, stupid me. 40:48.840 --> 40:51.840 I've got an E60 online now on the way. 40:51.840 --> 40:54.840 So I've played with that later on as well. 40:54.840 --> 40:57.840 And something you want to check out for that maybe is true phone. 40:57.840 --> 41:00.840 Tango, Romeo, Uniform, phone.com. 41:00.840 --> 41:06.840 And these guys basically give you a voice or write the application within your Nokia 41:06.840 --> 41:12.840 that allows you to receive calls and make calls when you're on Wi-Fi. 41:12.840 --> 41:16.840 But when you're not on Wi-Fi, the mobile number you get from them gets forward 41:16.840 --> 41:18.840 to your real mobile number. 41:18.840 --> 41:22.840 So you have just one number and they either forward it straight onto Wi-Fi 41:22.840 --> 41:26.840 when you're on Wi-Fi or onto your phone when you're not on Wi-Fi. 41:26.840 --> 41:28.840 We're checking out at least. 41:28.840 --> 41:29.840 Yeah. 41:29.840 --> 41:30.840 That's it. 41:30.840 --> 41:31.840 All right. 41:31.840 --> 41:34.840 Yeah, so a lot of people said, dude, you know, this is pretty cool. 41:34.840 --> 41:37.840 We've only heard a little bit about Skype on the N800. 41:37.840 --> 41:40.840 And I have to say it's really completed the box for me. 41:40.840 --> 41:44.840 Now, of course, I had Gizmo, which gives you voice over IP. 41:44.840 --> 41:47.840 But really, and this is just a cultural thing. 41:47.840 --> 41:53.840 My and really pod shows entire IAM architecture is Skype. 41:53.840 --> 41:55.840 So we use it for instant message. 41:55.840 --> 41:56.840 We use it for conference calls. 41:56.840 --> 41:58.840 We use it for video conference calls. 41:58.840 --> 42:00.840 We use it for a lot of different things. 42:00.840 --> 42:02.840 So I'll excuse me. 42:02.840 --> 42:03.840 It's a live. 42:03.840 --> 42:05.840 It went down the wrong pipe. 42:06.840 --> 42:10.840 So I really, I've really been waiting for this. 42:10.840 --> 42:14.840 And I'm surprised that there hasn't been a number of articles. 42:14.840 --> 42:20.840 You know, out now, basically comparing the iPhone to the N800. 42:20.840 --> 42:22.840 Because I feel there are comparisons. 42:22.840 --> 42:27.840 Yeah, just take out the cellular network phone part for a second if you don't mind. 42:27.840 --> 42:30.840 And just look at it as an internet tablet. 42:30.840 --> 42:32.840 The iPhone is a fantastic internet tablet. 42:32.840 --> 42:36.840 And of course, it has the iPod in it and it's interface, 42:36.840 --> 42:40.840 which has a lot of advantages for first-time users. 42:40.840 --> 42:42.840 And for people who just want to have music on the go. 42:42.840 --> 42:44.840 And it's a beautiful interface. 42:44.840 --> 42:48.840 And not that I have one yet to be able to actually compare it with anything else. 42:48.840 --> 42:50.840 It's coming Wednesday. 42:50.840 --> 42:56.840 But you know, some people actually said, why don't you demonstrate the Skype on the 42:56.840 --> 42:57.840 on the N800? 42:57.840 --> 42:58.840 Nothing has a pretty good idea. 42:58.840 --> 43:03.840 Actually, I'm taking one of my jacks. 43:03.840 --> 43:05.840 I'm going to put it into, there we go. 43:05.840 --> 43:08.840 It's now in the N800. 43:08.840 --> 43:12.840 And oh, by the way, the jack, any headphone jack goes in the N800. 43:12.840 --> 43:15.840 You don't have to have some kind of special thing from Apple in order for that to work. 43:15.840 --> 43:18.840 So they have their own headphones with microphone built in. 43:18.840 --> 43:20.840 So it's a three-prong works beautifully. 43:20.840 --> 43:25.840 But it also works just fine with a regular headphone jack as I'm about to demonstrate. 43:25.840 --> 43:29.840 So let me, I'm going to bring up the dialing interface. 43:29.840 --> 43:30.840 Okay. 43:30.840 --> 43:32.840 And I'm going to call my cell phone. 43:32.840 --> 43:33.840 Hold on. 43:33.840 --> 43:34.840 Okay. 43:34.840 --> 43:35.840 You can actually hear it. 43:35.840 --> 43:36.840 Can't you? 43:39.840 --> 43:41.840 Luckily, it's not the actual tone. 43:41.840 --> 43:43.840 So you don't get my cell phone number. 43:43.840 --> 43:44.840 Okay. 43:44.840 --> 43:45.840 Let's hit call. 43:45.840 --> 43:47.840 And let's just see how that works. 43:47.840 --> 43:50.840 So the volume is always at 80% by default. 43:50.840 --> 43:52.840 I like to crank that up a little bit. 43:52.840 --> 43:54.840 Let's see. 43:54.840 --> 43:55.840 Okay. 43:55.840 --> 43:56.840 Volume's up. 43:56.840 --> 43:59.840 It's, it says it's dialing. 43:59.840 --> 44:00.840 There we go. 44:00.840 --> 44:02.840 There's my cell phone. 44:02.840 --> 44:05.840 So you can hear it sounds like it's real, doesn't it? 44:05.840 --> 44:06.840 Okay. 44:06.840 --> 44:07.840 I'll answer. 44:07.840 --> 44:08.840 All right. 44:08.840 --> 44:09.840 Hello. 44:09.840 --> 44:10.840 Let's see. 44:10.840 --> 44:11.840 How should I do it? 44:11.840 --> 44:13.840 I'll mute the, yeah, any 100. 44:13.840 --> 44:15.840 So I'm talking to my, I'm talking to my, 44:15.840 --> 44:16.840 61. 44:16.840 --> 44:17.840 61. 44:17.840 --> 44:18.840 Sounds pretty good. 44:18.840 --> 44:19.840 Doesn't it? 44:19.840 --> 44:21.840 And I'll mute that one. 44:21.840 --> 44:23.840 And I'll unmute the tablet. 44:23.840 --> 44:25.840 I'll put the E61i up to the microphone. 44:25.840 --> 44:26.840 Can you hear it? 44:26.840 --> 44:27.840 Can you hear it? 44:27.840 --> 44:28.840 Can you hear it? 44:28.840 --> 44:29.840 So it sounds pretty good. 44:29.840 --> 44:30.840 Doesn't it? 44:30.840 --> 44:31.840 It just works, man. 44:31.840 --> 44:34.840 I've been using this for our conference calls, which is an 800 number. 44:34.840 --> 44:36.840 So that's completely free. 44:36.840 --> 44:38.840 Loving it. 44:38.840 --> 44:39.840 Oops. 44:39.840 --> 44:41.840 Let me just put that back in there. 44:41.840 --> 44:43.840 Okay. 44:43.840 --> 44:45.840 In fact, I think, 44:45.840 --> 44:47.840 Nokia, Nokia is, 44:47.840 --> 44:48.840 I guess what Nokia should do. 44:48.840 --> 44:50.840 If I was Nokia. 44:50.840 --> 44:51.840 I would say, 44:51.840 --> 44:54.840 who needs the iPhone when you can have the guy phone? 44:54.840 --> 44:56.840 This is without a doubt a guy phone, 44:56.840 --> 44:59.840 because we don't need no stank and 3G crap. 44:59.840 --> 45:01.840 Two and a half G, actually. 45:01.840 --> 45:02.840 Edge. 45:02.840 --> 45:03.840 No, no, no, no. 45:03.840 --> 45:05.840 Now, we've got the guy phone, man. 45:05.840 --> 45:06.840 We just, we got the clown. 45:06.840 --> 45:08.840 We've got internet access everywhere. 45:08.840 --> 45:09.840 We've got Skype. 45:09.840 --> 45:11.840 So we're completely reachable. 45:11.840 --> 45:12.840 We can be walking around. 45:12.840 --> 45:13.840 Listen to tunes. 45:13.840 --> 45:14.840 Watch and video. 45:14.840 --> 45:15.840 Have Skype interrupt us. 45:15.840 --> 45:16.840 Yes. 45:16.840 --> 45:18.840 The guy phone is for you. 45:18.840 --> 45:19.840 Hey, Adam. 45:19.840 --> 45:21.840 It's Father Roderick aka the Catholic Insider. 45:21.840 --> 45:22.840 You know, 45:22.840 --> 45:25.840 you're shove it down to throat strategy for the pot show channels. 45:25.840 --> 45:26.840 Really works. 45:26.840 --> 45:27.840 At least for me. 45:27.840 --> 45:28.840 I had to try it out. 45:28.840 --> 45:29.840 So I said down. 45:29.840 --> 45:32.840 And in only 10 minutes was able to create two channels. 45:32.840 --> 45:35.840 One for all the podcast that have to do with the world that 45:35.840 --> 45:38.840 Tolkien created the Lord of the Rings universe. 45:38.840 --> 45:40.840 And then I created a second one, 45:40.840 --> 45:42.840 encouraged by my success on the first one. 45:42.840 --> 45:45.840 And that is a Harry Potter channel with the best Harry Potter podcast 45:45.840 --> 45:46.840 out there. 45:46.840 --> 45:48.840 And this week is very important for Harry Potter fans. 45:48.840 --> 45:50.840 There's a new movie. 45:50.840 --> 45:53.840 We're all waiting also for the final book in the whole saga. 45:53.840 --> 45:59.840 So it's very cool to be able to bring together to create a mashup of all those podcasts 45:59.840 --> 46:01.840 and easily transfer to iTunes. 46:01.840 --> 46:03.840 That's for me, the coolest feature. 46:03.840 --> 46:04.840 Now here's my question. 46:04.840 --> 46:08.840 How do I publish the link to those channels? 46:08.840 --> 46:10.840 I'd like to put them on my website. 46:10.840 --> 46:12.840 I'd like to distribute them in blogs. 46:12.840 --> 46:13.840 But how do I do that? 46:13.840 --> 46:14.840 I just couldn't figure it out. 46:14.840 --> 46:15.840 Perhaps you can help me. 46:15.840 --> 46:17.840 Absolutely my friend. 46:17.840 --> 46:19.840 So I already posted this at curry.com. 46:19.840 --> 46:21.840 And thank you, Father Roderick, for jumping on board with us. 46:21.840 --> 46:24.840 It's funny because yesterday we were in one of our big off-site meetings. 46:24.840 --> 46:27.840 And I was, this is the one I was in the car on the phone. 46:27.840 --> 46:30.840 And we said, you know, look, we've got this two-to-fronts channel. 46:30.840 --> 46:32.840 People are catching on. 46:32.840 --> 46:34.840 And then I think Ron said, well, how about a Harry Potter channel? 46:34.840 --> 46:36.840 You know, this is the biggest thing coming out. 46:36.840 --> 46:39.840 You know, it's surely we've heard of the book in the movie. 46:39.840 --> 46:43.840 And boom, the next day there's Father Roderick with a Harry Potter channel. 46:43.840 --> 46:47.840 So I posted the RSS and the iTunes links at curry.com. 46:47.840 --> 46:52.840 So the whole problem with what you're witnessing, Father, 46:52.840 --> 46:56.840 Beloved Father, is that we don't have the, 46:56.840 --> 46:58.840 you know, we don't have that piece deployed yet. 46:58.840 --> 47:02.840 The piece that is known as cheddar, cheddar has two very important parts. 47:02.840 --> 47:07.840 So one is the ability to edit your channels with much more complexity 47:07.840 --> 47:10.840 and much more power than you're able to do now. 47:10.840 --> 47:14.840 The other is there's actually going to be a drop-down box on each channel that says, 47:14.840 --> 47:17.840 play it in the dashboard, click. 47:17.840 --> 47:19.840 You play it in the dashboard. 47:19.840 --> 47:22.840 Play it in real player, play it in Windows Media Player, put it on your iPod. 47:22.840 --> 47:25.840 And this could be a box that could also say put it on your Nokia, 47:25.840 --> 47:30.840 although Nokia doesn't have a spiffy iTunes link the way iTunes has with ITPC. 47:30.840 --> 47:32.840 You'll also be able to get this channel. 47:32.840 --> 47:35.840 Now, that functionality isn't, I haven't seen that work yet, 47:35.840 --> 47:39.840 but we're going to get to that as we go along with these cheddar updates. 47:39.840 --> 47:43.840 So tomorrow I believe we'll be pushing this live and you'll be able to expose that. 47:43.840 --> 47:46.840 So people, you know, so you'll be able to find the links yourself. 47:46.840 --> 47:49.840 People who just come to your channel will be able to find those links. 47:49.840 --> 47:51.840 And we'll be able to just put it on the iPod. 47:51.840 --> 47:54.840 But even better, you'll be able to determine if you look at, you know, 47:54.840 --> 47:57.840 if you, and of course, I put it in the show notes at dailysourcecode.com. 47:57.840 --> 48:01.840 If you look at Father's Father Rodrigues Harry Potter, Lord of the Ring Channel, 48:01.840 --> 48:04.840 you'll see that there's a whole bunch of episodes in there. 48:04.840 --> 48:08.840 You'll have control over the order in which the episodes come out. 48:08.840 --> 48:11.840 And as John Walker says here, Adam, you've got the interest did. 48:11.840 --> 48:12.840 I started messing with the channels. 48:12.840 --> 48:14.840 Looks like a pretty neat feature question. 48:14.840 --> 48:17.840 Is it possible to filter a show that you've set up in a channel, 48:17.840 --> 48:21.840 so that you can block stuff from that show's feed from coming into the channel, 48:21.840 --> 48:23.840 based on keywords such as a title? 48:23.840 --> 48:27.840 For example, say I want to set up a channel of Mark Yoshimode, 48:27.840 --> 48:30.840 an MCOF stuff except I don't want to see dire of a madman. 48:30.840 --> 48:33.840 Well, he typically dumps everything into into the PCH feed. 48:33.840 --> 48:36.840 I don't like everything Mark does except 48:36.840 --> 48:43.840 a dire madman in my, the hell. 48:43.840 --> 48:47.840 Anyway, so I understand your question. 48:47.840 --> 48:50.840 That will not be available when we deploy tomorrow. 48:50.840 --> 48:55.840 However, if Mark were to create a channel, and this is really the way he should be doing it, 48:55.840 --> 48:57.840 instead of dumping everything into his PCH feed, 48:57.840 --> 49:01.840 he'll create a channel which is a collection of all the stuff he does. 49:01.840 --> 49:04.840 So if you look at that channel, it'll have Pacific Coast Hellway. 49:04.840 --> 49:06.840 It'll have number one with a bullet. 49:06.840 --> 49:08.840 It'll have dire of a madman. 49:08.840 --> 49:12.840 It'll have the badlands. 49:12.840 --> 49:14.840 And if you don't like one of those shows, 49:14.840 --> 49:18.840 you'll be able to suppress one of those individual shows in the channel. 49:18.840 --> 49:21.840 So that is kind of how it should work. 49:21.840 --> 49:23.840 Looking forward a little bit, 49:23.840 --> 49:26.840 and we discussed this yesterday as well on our offsite, 49:26.840 --> 49:30.840 you'll have a search capability where the results of the search can be, 49:31.840 --> 49:32.840 a show. 49:32.840 --> 49:37.840 So whenever that search will run continuously and whenever it hits against your keywords, 49:37.840 --> 49:40.840 or negative keywords, I guess that's also possible. 49:40.840 --> 49:42.840 So I want this and this, but not that. 49:42.840 --> 49:48.840 It will then pop in the episode that's relevant right into your channel. 49:48.840 --> 49:50.840 Oh man, it's going to be so exciting. 49:50.840 --> 49:54.840 I got a lot of work to do today because deploying this is very, very scary stuff. 49:54.840 --> 49:57.840 We don't want to do as mess up the work you've done on your channels already. 49:57.840 --> 50:02.840 Yet I would like to give you the capability to edit the channels you have now, 50:02.840 --> 50:07.840 to reflect the behavior that you can now put into it, 50:07.840 --> 50:11.840 such as order and number of episodes coming in from show containers. 50:11.840 --> 50:14.840 It's going to be a lot of fun. 50:14.840 --> 50:16.840 Oh man, it's been a long one. 50:16.840 --> 50:18.840 What happens when we get busy, eh? 50:18.840 --> 50:19.840 Fifty minutes already? 50:19.840 --> 50:21.840 Well, we can tack on another three and a half. 50:21.840 --> 50:24.840 Because it's a rave dive. 50:25.840 --> 50:28.840 It's always, it's rave dive. 50:28.840 --> 50:29.840 It is. 50:29.840 --> 50:30.840 Hey. 50:30.840 --> 50:31.840 Hey. 50:31.840 --> 50:32.840 Hey. 50:32.840 --> 50:33.840 Hey. 50:33.840 --> 50:35.840 It's rave dive. 50:35.840 --> 50:37.840 So where is this place, anyone? 50:37.840 --> 50:39.840 Well, it's in a circular motion. 50:39.840 --> 50:41.840 You just got to ring this number. 50:41.840 --> 50:42.840 Right. 50:42.840 --> 50:44.840 It's going to be there. 50:44.840 --> 50:46.840 Right on, aren't you? 50:46.840 --> 50:48.840 So what's it all about then? 50:48.840 --> 50:51.840 It's a rave dive. 50:51.840 --> 50:52.840 It's rave dive. 50:52.840 --> 50:53.840 It's rave dive. 50:53.840 --> 50:54.840 It's rave dive. 50:54.840 --> 50:55.840 It's rave dive. 50:55.840 --> 50:56.840 It's rave dive. 50:56.840 --> 51:21.840 [ Music ] 51:21.840 --> 51:23.840 And my friend will such you out. 51:23.840 --> 51:27.840 That's what brings him roll about. 51:27.840 --> 51:30.840 They dive. 51:30.840 --> 51:32.840 See that bird. 51:32.840 --> 51:33.840 I wear that. 51:33.840 --> 51:34.840 Be shaped. 51:34.840 --> 51:35.840 Propynise. 51:35.840 --> 51:37.840 Definitely once it's over. 51:37.840 --> 51:38.840 I'm going to dive, Dive. 51:38.840 --> 51:44.840 Which will make my dive dive. 51:44.840 --> 51:47.840 Dive. 51:47.840 --> 52:02.740 Life, it was my life, I'm feeling strange, yeah we're having sex around time, it's right 52:02.740 --> 52:09.880 time, it's right time, it's right time, it's right time, just as a people in a room, spreading 52:09.880 --> 52:17.440 life, listening to church, it's right time, so what do I have to do? Just have a lot of them stand around, 52:17.440 --> 52:21.960 what they hate, round up and down, it's not your fate upon the ground, it's you who can't 52:21.960 --> 53:20.120 [ Music ] 53:20.120 --> 53:28.860 oh god it working morning, eeeit's going on. Oh yeah we care, yeah, what have we 53:28.860 --> 53:30.400 Yeah, what a knife. 53:30.400 --> 53:32.200 Yeah, what a knife. 53:32.200 --> 53:35.700 I could so see this being the summer hit of 2007. 53:35.700 --> 53:40.540 I just blasted out of stickers and trailer parks everywhere. 53:40.540 --> 53:43.040 I have a diet holiday camps. 53:43.040 --> 53:45.380 It's a rape-dave potsafe. 53:45.380 --> 53:48.100 You'll find the link to the page 53:48.100 --> 53:50.620 of the Potsafe Music Network at dailysourcecode.com. 53:50.620 --> 53:52.980 Tomorrow, Fubar Friday, it's going to be a great one. 53:52.980 --> 53:55.780 Get your songs in, get them in Swift and early, please, 53:55.780 --> 53:57.220 because they're already stacking up, 53:57.220 --> 53:59.420 and I want to play as much as possible. 53:59.420 --> 54:01.420 Adam and Potsafe.com, if you want to send me anything, 54:01.420 --> 54:05.820 data source code that can for the comments and I'll see you tomorrow. 54:05.820 --> 54:07.820 It'll be Fubar. 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