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Are you tired of that yet?

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Me too.

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This is Matt DiTilo of Matt's
Today in History, and on this
day in 2007, I helped

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pod show suck a little less by
putting together a shorter blur
of asking you, a podcast

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producer and listener, to visit
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up to participate in some

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a difference.

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Once the last time a media
company asks for your opinion,
never, well then, let's make
some

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history together, visit
suckless.podshow.com, and get
involved.

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So you expect a football Friday,
on the DSC638?

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Well, guess what?

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It's not going to happen.

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So Adam claims he got busy with
the board meeting, but really I
think he was reading Harry

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Potter.

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Oh well, here's your DSC638, a
little less.

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[ Music ]

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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Now many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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So many amazes.

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We got a crisis going on over
here. I don't know if you've
followed on the news by now is
probably spread around the globe
that

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we have severe flooding
throughout the United Kingdom.
Mainly in the north that is now
really spread to the Midlands.

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England as we've called Wales
and now even to parts of the
southeast. Yes, even London is
witnessing this.

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Let me tell you Friday morning.
Of course, the whole day started
off food barred as it would on a
Friday just by this horrible,
horrible weather.

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In the M25 flooded there were
the M40, not that I have to
travel over that but just giving
an example. People were stuck
for seven hours in traffic.

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We have water plants closing
because they've been
contaminated by flooding. We
have power station shutting
down. It's pretty damn bad here.

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It really is already insurer
saying it's going to cost 2
billion pounds. That's 4 billion
dollars or a week in Iraq.

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It's just unbelievable what's
going on. I know I predicted
good weather for this week. I'm
not going to revise that I will
say we're not going to see such
a dumping of rain like we've
seen over the past two to three
days really.

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It was just horrible. I actually
took the train in avoiding the
highways.

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Trains were slowed down. They
couldn't go as fast because of
the accumulation of water.

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I think I was also something
about slippery tracks. I'm not
quite sure. It was difficult
getting into town.

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Town was heavy, heavy traffic.
There was just tons to do.

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Boom, boom, boom, boom, meeting
after meeting. That's some
fascinating people who will be
starting some shows with.

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If you've ever heard of the
medium Gordon Smith, I had a
great great meeting with him
also the barefoot doctor who
actually, you know,

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if we're going to do a show with
someone who calls himself the
barefoot doctor and says he can
cure you just by, you know, by
using his hands.

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I'm like, shit, cure me, baby.
You know, remember, I don't know
if a long time listeners were
recall that I once fell asleep
on an airplane.

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American Airlines going from,
let me think. I think it was
maybe Los Angeles or San
Francisco to Miami.

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Maybe it was New York to Miami.
And I fell asleep on my, on the
palm of my hand and really
messed up a nerve.

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The result is that for the past
two and a half years, you know,
my left index finger is just a
tiny bit numb.

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And the barefoot doctor said,
hold on a second. He, he jammed
his finger into me into my back.
That would be.

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And really pushed it quite deep.
And he said, look, within 48
hours, you'll notice a
difference. I got to tell you,
it's almost gone.

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I mean, it's like two and a half
years and hundreds and hundreds
of pounds in physical therapy
and low and behold.

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Anyway, so we had a board
meeting started 6 p.m. on so I
didn't have time in the morning
to do a show.

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This is all leading up to a huge
apology, obviously.

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We had a board of directors
meeting in San Francisco, which
started at 10 a.m. 6 p.m. in
London.

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And that really lasted until,
well, well, past 10 o'clock.

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And, you know, I got home. I was
so tired. It's been two, but
maybe even three really, really
long weeks.

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It's, I was dead. And, you know,
I took the advice that I should
have taken last weekend. You
guys said, screw it.

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Don't do your show on Saturday
or Sunday. Relax. I couldn't go
flying or anything fun like
that.

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But there was something that I
received on Friday from Head
Sales Weasel, Chris Jacob. He
brought for me an iPhone.

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Yes, I have been assimilated.

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And, uh, I've been playing with
this device all weekend long,
nonstop.

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Setting up my entire environment
to conform to it because, of
course, there's a little bit
different than working with the
trustee, uh,

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Nokia E61I because you're right
back into the, the throws of
iTunes and I really haven't used
iTunes very much at all.

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If at all, even on this
computer. Um, so I'm back to
sinking.

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Over the course of, uh, the next
few days, over the course of the
week, I'll be telling you about
my experiences. The first thing
I did though, um,

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you know, I knew that I did not
want to have yet another AT&T
account. I have a singular
wireless account,

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which, uh, you know, I've been
moving that SIM card back and
forth from every single Nokia
phone that I've had.

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In fact, it started out with my
blackberry, which you remember
how much I love that device. I
really did.

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And, uh, I was looking around
that I found at
hacktheiPhone.com. I found a
procedure that enables you to,
um,

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insert any AT&T compatible SIM
card, meaning that I could,
because that's really all I want
us to do.

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You know, I want to test the
phone out. I don't want to
completely commit to it. Now, by
changing my number, I'd say
that's a pretty big damn
commitment.

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So, even though I'm an AT&T
customer, you can't just put a
different SIM card in
immediately. It'll say, no, no
good.

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Uh, please put in a compatible,
you know, please put in the SIM
card that came with the phone.

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You've got to go through the
activation process. And, of
course, this activation process
takes place through iTunes.

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So, uh, because of iTunes lives
on the local computer, you know,
lots of, uh, engineers and,
well, you can call them hackers
if you want.

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Um, you know, have a way to
track and see what communication
is going on between the computer
and the iPod, even though they
really haven't been able to get
into the iPod.

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And so, uh, essentially, you
load a program that acts like
iTunes and routes around it, you
know, there's some interesting
steps where you, um,

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have to click restore, then
unplug the, uh, the iPhone from
your computer quick before
iTunes is able to recognize
it's, uh, it's gone.

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Um, and it works. If I can work,
first time off. So, I inserted
my, uh, my singular one, uh, SIM
card and presto, my, my number
and even in iTunes, it says,
here's your number.

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So, that was great. And, of
course, I've been following
along on the, uh, on the iPhone,
on an iPhone mod, uh, IRC
channels to see the, the
progress, you know, obviously
whatever one wants is to unlock
the phone.

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So, you could put in any SIM
card from any network. I could
take quite a while. It's not,
it's not a trivial exercise.

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And I think a lot of that
information usually comes out
after it's been leaked from one
of the factories probably, um,
that, you know, information just
has a way of flowing in that
regard.

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Um, but for right now, I'm, I'm
happy just, uh, just testing
another, you know, so here's the
one thing I've got to say right
off the bat.

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They have figured something very
important out. The whole idea,
and I, and I went back actually,
and I, I looked at Steve Jobs's
keynote where he announced the
iPhone.

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And he was talking about the,
the internet navigation device.
And yes, as an internet
navigation device, I have to say
it is outstanding.

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And the main reason is because,
um, you're not looking at what
Steve Jobs calls the baby web.

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When you load a web page, you
can see the entire page in the
browser and you can, you know,
double tap to zoom in,

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or you can use the pinch finger,
move to zoom into where you want
to be.

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And it's incredibly important.
It's not just a trick, you know,
the Nokia.

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So let me just step back for a
second. So, you know, we are
used to seeing web pages in
context. So we understand almost
instantaneously, you know,
what's the layout, where's the
information, what's the
navigation structure, except, of
course, with Pacho.com.

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Working on sucking lesson that
regard.

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Having that knowledge then
allows you to navigate through
the rest of the site.

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When it comes in all, you know,
stuff on top and, you know, one
big long strip of information,
you know, what that looks like
right in your cell phone,

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where you get the, the side
bars, the first thing you have
to scroll all the way through,
you know, you lose your whole
context of information.

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Now, in the East 61 eye the way
they solve that is they have a
little mini map.

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And so when you really start to
scroll, you then see the whole
page in this kind of mini map
that is off to the side.

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So it does give you some context
as to where you are in, in
navigating throughout this page
because let's face it, you're
scrolling, so you're navigating.

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Brilliant, brilliant the way
they've solved that absolutely
make so much sense.

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And this screen, they, I don't
know if these guys are actually
making money on the iPhone
because this screen is of
outstanding quality, of course,
a lot of it.

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There's the courts, technology
stuff that they already had
figured out in, in OS 10, but,
um, man, wow, the, the browsing
experience is utterly, utterly
fantastic.

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Now I don't know about battery
life yet, you know, I've run it
down a couple times already,
which is not so surprising.

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I'm putting it on an extended
long charge now, I ran it all
the way down because, you know,
batteries do develop some kind
of memory.

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If you recharge them halfway
through and you do that too
often.

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Yeah, I, you know, I was very
ready to hate this, extremely,
and I didn't get it for free.

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I paid for at least Chris paid
for, I got to pay him back.

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I was really prepared to not
like this at all.

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Now, once I've gotten around
some of the ugly things, which
is pretty traditional for, for
Macintosh, you know, out of the
box, it works great for
everybody.

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And if you want it to perform,
you know, in a, in a way that
would be consistent with a
machine that is a bit more open,
then you have to hack stuff
around.

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I think that's kind of the Mac
way.

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So, so far so good, I'm given it
the thumbs up at the moment.

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And I just saw that, that
apparently they've gotten into
the OS into the file system, so
we're close to something.

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Yeah, it wouldn't be cool if you
couldn't SSH into your, into
your iPhone.

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Just the FTP in drops them stuff
off.

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Man, if we can really get in, if
we can really load a shell, it's
going to become a very, very
important device.

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One more thing I want to say
about it, their integration of
QuickTime is really stellar.

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I've been messing around with
that, because of course, I'm
highly interested.

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You know, QuickTime is, it's not
as prevalent as flash on most
computers.

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But what wouldn't it be amazing
if QuickTime turned out to be
the mobile format?

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And of course, it's not a
format.

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It's really, it's a, it's a
container to be quite honest.

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They do have formats within
that, but you know, can also be
H.264.

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And so I have QuickTime video in
it, but it just works so
beautifully.

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I think every MP3 link you click
on it plays.

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Most MP4 links definitely all
MOV linked or almost all.

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I mean, there's some weirdness
is to what formats it will
accept.

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I got to get some information on
that.

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But it just works.

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In fact, I even tried out, I
watched the Steve Jobs keynote.

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I went to the Apple site, went
to QuickTime, went to Keynotes
and events, clicked on the, on
the,

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was it the developers
conference, I think.

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And, and it played it.

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It's streamed the QuickTime
video right into my iPhone.

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Got to tell you extremely
impressed.

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Adam, good afternoon.

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It's you.

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I am calling to prove once and
for all that someone actually,
we've got articles in playboy.

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I got a script for years and
years ago and claimed it was
purely, you know, for the free
speech stuff

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and the first amendment
promotion and all things and
articles and all that stuff.

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But finally, it's, you know,
it's living proof because this
current issue has this
tremendous article about new
media and stuff.

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And in this nice little graphic
of a big column of logos of sort
of web to .0 or a new media
company, the pod safety and user
network logo,

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right at the top of the entire
column over YouTube and overall
these other big, big, huge, well
known names.

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And the first person quoted in
article is Ron Bloom.

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Very nice.

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So I don't know if you caught
that using your ego filter or
vanity filter, or if it is used
and checked for news about stuff
on the web.

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But, uh, awesome piece.

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Really terrific exposure for a
pod show.

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And, uh, well, of course, it
would be exposure for anybody
who had the articles in playboy.

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But anyway, uh, how about a
great great weekend and, uh,
photo, uh, continuing to hear
the shows.

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Talk to you.

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Bye bye.

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Oh, Shabbat Shalom, my friend.

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Yeah.

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Are you and Mark Yoshimotan
Mkov, the only people who
pointed that out, of course, I
had seen it already.

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Away with those one more someone
sent me a, no, that was, I
think, Mkov sent me a scan of
it.

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Uh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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I remember being interviewed.

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I was on the call too.

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They didn't quote me though.

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I guess I'm completely
uncoordable.

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But I believe it.

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I believe it does work, man.

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Once again, this weekend, uh, we
had Dr. Cockney featured in the
news of the world that humongous

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newspaper here in, uh, in the
UK, 9 million readers only comes
out on Sunday and people say

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they bite for the sports, but
it's just filled with naked
chicks, which is kind of the
culture

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here in the UK.

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So it's not like a smart, well,
yeah, it is smarty.

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But, uh, Dr. Cockney fits in
just perfectly out half to say.

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And man, boom, download requests
through the roof, registrations
through the roof, um, you know,

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people pay attention to that
stuff.

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They, they do read the articles.

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In this case, they take the, you
know, they take all the steps to
actually go over to

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website, you know, then go into
another website and play
something.

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It works.

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Al-Warring, right, our front,
I'm going to go long today
because there's been so much

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response to, uh, to the trickery
of television.

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Of course, that's where we left
off, uh, with the 637, where I
went through that

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interview with Michael Grayton,
David Cox, uh, some great
feedbacks and great examples of

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things that people have
witnessed themselves when it
comes to, uh, media deception.

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You know, nothing
earthshattering, but some great,
some fun things to listen to for

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sure.

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And, uh, so I just got so many.

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I just want to rush through the,
you just bang out a couple.

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Also, today is the day of the
cheddar, uh, if all goes
according to plan and I think

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it will, uh, somewhere near the
end of our day in the United
Kingdom will be releasing

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the new channel editor
functionality at podshow.com,
which will enable you to
determine the

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output of your channel feeds,
how they play.

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And, and, you know, I've been
playing with this iPhone
already.

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I have yet another, another play
out in mind is to how I want
stuff, uh, to be made

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available.

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Because that's really one of the
big differences you'll see is
now as an audience member,

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you can go to anyone's channel
and decide how you want to
listen to it.

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You just want to play it in the
dashboard, click play channel,
boom, it'll play.

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You want to play it in real or
Windows media or wind amp, no
problem.

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We've got options for those.

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Want to put it on your iPod
through iTunes, no problem.

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Got an option for that.

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Do you want to just download it?
No problem.

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Got an option for that.

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Do you want the RSS fee?

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No problem.

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There's the icon.

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Yep.

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So let me just, this is actually
left over from, from Thursday,
just a couple of

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quick blurbs on channels since
it's coming out today.

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Hey, I just want to share
channels for the nylon and
anyone else is still

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doesn't get it.

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And if I'm not right about this,
you're not going to play this.

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I'm just going to assume I know
what I'm talking about.

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And even if I don't, I don't
know.

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He said he doesn't need channels
because your already has iTunes,
which he thinks does the same
thing.

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But it's not just playlists.

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It's smart playlists.

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And iTunes, there's smart
playlists.

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You can set them up according to
any combination of albums and
artists and podcasts and banks.

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You know, now that I've been
using iTunes again, it is very
much like smart playlists.

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Oh boy, is it?

20:55.120 --> 20:57.120
Except they're Uber, smart.

20:57.120 --> 20:58.120
Uber, smart.

20:58.120 --> 21:03.120
Because you put shows in and
shows, there's your serendipity
factor.

21:03.120 --> 21:06.120
They pop out episodes and you
never know when it's going to
come.

21:06.120 --> 21:08.120
You never know what's going to
be in it.

21:08.120 --> 21:09.120
Oh, man.

21:09.120 --> 21:10.120
Yes, yes.

21:10.120 --> 21:11.120
Or yeah.

21:11.120 --> 21:13.120
And this is the last bit of
functionality I'm waiting on.

21:13.120 --> 21:15.120
You can put channels into
channels.

21:15.120 --> 21:19.120
Can you imagine how much cool
stuff is going to happen to your
smart playlists?

21:19.120 --> 21:20.120
Quite a bit.

21:20.120 --> 21:28.120
So, that's more of what channels
are, but if you've done much
with smart playlists,

21:28.120 --> 21:32.120
you know, that you can base them
on other smart playlists.

21:32.120 --> 21:42.120
So, you're really sharing your
iTunes playlists and sharing it.

21:42.120 --> 21:49.120
And you're losing your getting
other people smart playlists.

21:49.120 --> 21:56.120
And then you get the channels
within channels, which is, you
can base your smart playlists

21:56.120 --> 22:01.120
to other people smart playlists,
which is, yes.

22:01.120 --> 22:04.120
Yes, I guess that's a big thing.

22:04.120 --> 22:05.120
That is.

22:05.120 --> 22:07.120
Oh, my help.

22:07.120 --> 22:08.120
Thanks, man.

22:08.120 --> 22:09.120
That's absolutely right.

22:09.120 --> 22:13.120
That's exactly how it's supposed
to work.

22:13.120 --> 22:17.120
And I must say, great
explanation for someone who's
never actually used it.

22:17.120 --> 22:24.120
I'm so happy because, you know,
I keep comparing this to how
tough it is to explain Tvo.

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And you can't really understand
it until you use it.

22:27.120 --> 22:28.120
And it's the same thing.

22:28.120 --> 22:32.120
So, having this level of
understanding without having
used it, thank you.

22:32.120 --> 22:33.120
I applaud that.

22:33.120 --> 22:34.120
Hey, Adam.

22:34.120 --> 22:35.120
This is Chris and Philadelphia.

22:35.120 --> 22:40.120
Let me sum up my previous two
long comment.

22:40.120 --> 22:45.120
It's about two things, the first
is the magical player for
podcasts.

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I think it would be some sort of
program that fits on a portable
device.

22:49.120 --> 22:54.120
Like, at any hundred in the
iPhone, not my palm, but that is
not so good.

22:54.120 --> 22:55.120
That, you know, it can sink.

22:55.120 --> 22:58.120
It can download all the stuff on
the go.

22:58.120 --> 22:59.120
And let me see back.

22:59.120 --> 23:01.120
Let me have it to a shared
field.

23:01.120 --> 23:02.120
Let me get it put in the
channel.

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Let me rate it.

23:03.120 --> 23:04.120
Share it with my friends.

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I like that.

23:05.120 --> 23:07.120
Yeah, I'm down with that.

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And we'll have some of that
functionality in our channels.

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Although I am moving away from
the download synchronized part.

23:14.120 --> 23:17.120
I can just see where we're
going.

23:17.120 --> 23:19.120
And not that we're not going to
need this for a long time.

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But eventually, bandwidth and
connectivity will just be so
prevalent.

23:23.120 --> 23:27.120
You'll be able to, you know,
stream stuff live from anywhere
uninterrupted.

23:27.120 --> 23:28.120
I'm pretty convinced of that.

23:28.120 --> 23:33.120
Maybe five years from now, so we
have some download
synchronization things we need
to do.

23:33.120 --> 23:34.120
And yes, over the air.

23:34.120 --> 23:37.120
But please, let's keep it
broadband over the air.

23:37.120 --> 23:41.120
Because it's a bad experience
doing that over a mobile
network.

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It could also be a very
expensive experience.

23:44.120 --> 23:45.120
I want to see.

23:45.120 --> 23:49.120
So hopefully some get on that
for the iPhone for any hundred
and stuff.

23:49.120 --> 23:52.120
And second, the chatter sounds
awesome.

23:52.120 --> 23:55.120
It's exactly what the future
media is.

23:55.120 --> 23:59.120
Like everyone have their own
little feeds and stuff getting
passed around.

23:59.120 --> 24:04.120
One of the problems with with
iTunes and channels is that, you
know, it sticks all

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of shows in the one list.

24:06.120 --> 24:10.120
Is it possible to use OKML in
this format?

24:10.120 --> 24:15.120
I know that OKML is like, you
know, a listing of RSS feeds.

24:15.120 --> 24:19.120
So I would like to really like,
I nested list of RSS feeds in
ID.

24:19.120 --> 24:21.120
I'd have my basic channel.

24:21.120 --> 24:22.120
Click on it.

24:22.120 --> 24:25.120
It opens up two more listings,
two more directories, I guess.

24:25.120 --> 24:28.120
And there's my, you know,
electricity podcast.

24:28.120 --> 24:30.120
And there's my daily source
code.

24:30.120 --> 24:32.120
You know, that would be
excellent.

24:32.120 --> 24:34.120
That's that you're talking about
change in iTunes.

24:34.120 --> 24:36.120
You're talking about change in a
lot there.

24:36.120 --> 24:37.120
But it's just something to think
about.

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So keep up the good work piece.

24:39.120 --> 24:40.120
Yeah, man, thank you.

24:40.120 --> 24:44.120
Now, the reason I played this
rather geeky comment is multiple
reasons.

24:44.120 --> 24:50.120
First of all, I want to point
out that we do have an OPML
important export feature.

24:50.120 --> 24:53.120
I don't know if it's working
properly at this moment.

24:53.120 --> 24:54.120
The spec has changed.

24:54.120 --> 24:55.120
A lot of stuff has changed.

24:55.120 --> 24:59.120
Support probably waned a bit for
it because very few people
actually wanted.

24:59.120 --> 25:04.120
But I might as well say right
off the bat and right now that
the entire cheddar concept,

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not the editor per se and not
the playout system.

25:07.120 --> 25:12.120
The idea of OPML and RSS feeds
is completely modeled after what
Dave Winner built.

25:12.120 --> 25:18.120
Of course, Dave Winner found RSS
co-founder of RSS and definitely
the founder of OPML.

25:18.120 --> 25:23.120
It is if you've looked at share
my OPML and reading list,

25:23.120 --> 25:29.120
it is exactly this concept taken
a bit further by being able to
determine the output.

25:29.120 --> 25:32.120
And these are the things that as
a user of the OPML editor,

25:32.120 --> 25:33.120
I was always looking for.

25:33.120 --> 25:35.120
It's like, okay, you know,

25:35.120 --> 25:37.120
and I just didn't know how to do
it.

25:37.120 --> 25:40.120
Otherwise, you know, the
platform is certainly open
enough to hack around.

25:40.120 --> 25:43.120
But I'd like the idea of a
reading list.

25:43.120 --> 25:47.120
But I wanted more control over
the output because that then
makes me a publisher,

25:47.120 --> 25:52.120
not just a collector with some,
you know, standard based output
of my feed.

25:52.120 --> 25:54.120
So I want people to be able to
enjoy it.

25:54.120 --> 25:57.120
And I want to have some form of
editorial control,

25:57.120 --> 25:59.120
which doesn't mean actually
writing something.

25:59.120 --> 26:01.120
But determining what comes out
of the feed,

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filter certain feeds,

26:03.120 --> 26:07.120
you know, really using it as an
information router.

26:07.120 --> 26:10.120
So I might as well give Dave
props right away before,

26:10.120 --> 26:13.120
there's some problem of who
invented what.

26:13.120 --> 26:14.120
It doesn't matter.

26:14.120 --> 26:15.120
I just want to be able to,

26:15.120 --> 26:17.120
I want to be able to use this
for myself.

26:17.120 --> 26:19.120
I want to be able to control
what pictures,

26:19.120 --> 26:21.120
what MP3s,

26:21.120 --> 26:24.120
what shows, what goes onto my
iPod.

26:24.120 --> 26:25.120
And, you know, with the channel,

26:25.120 --> 26:28.120
and if you go to
Adam.podshow.com,

26:28.120 --> 26:30.120
you'll see that I already
created an iPhone channel.

26:30.120 --> 26:32.120
Right now, there's only one show
in there.

26:32.120 --> 26:33.120
It's a twit.

26:33.120 --> 26:35.120
And, of course, it's not, you
know,

26:35.120 --> 26:37.120
it's displaying multiple
episodes.

26:37.120 --> 26:39.120
So it hasn't been edited with
cheddar yet.

26:39.120 --> 26:41.120
But when it is, boy, I'm telling
you,

26:41.120 --> 26:43.120
I'm going to give you so much
cool shit to listen to.

26:43.120 --> 26:45.120
And you're going to be given it
back.

26:45.120 --> 26:48.120
Just do a search on your
favorite word of the day

26:48.120 --> 26:50.120
for under channels at
podshow.com.

26:50.120 --> 26:52.120
You'll see what I'm talking
about.

26:52.120 --> 26:55.120
So you think, you know, your
rock history, huh?

26:55.120 --> 26:57.120
Well, tell me this.

26:57.120 --> 27:00.120
Who was the original vocalist
for ACBC?

27:00.120 --> 27:02.120
Wrong.

27:02.120 --> 27:04.120
It was Dave Evans.

27:04.120 --> 27:06.120
And Dave and his band,

27:06.120 --> 27:07.120
the bad asses,

27:07.120 --> 27:10.120
have a brand new CD out called
Center.

27:10.120 --> 27:12.120
Dave, his management,

27:12.120 --> 27:14.120
and his record label,

27:14.120 --> 27:16.120
have given podshow radio the
right

27:16.120 --> 27:18.120
to play five tracks

27:18.120 --> 27:20.120
off this incredible CD.

27:20.120 --> 27:22.120
And throughout the show,

27:22.120 --> 27:24.120
we'll learn more about this
badass of rock and rose.

27:24.120 --> 27:27.120
Past and history.

27:27.120 --> 27:29.120
Starting Monday.

27:29.120 --> 27:32.120
Exclusively on podshowradio.com

27:32.120 --> 27:36.120
and podshowradio.potshow.com

27:41.120 --> 27:42.120
Jesus.

27:42.120 --> 27:44.120
With metal.

27:44.120 --> 27:45.120
Hey, Adam.

27:45.120 --> 27:46.120
It's Matt from Gamesweasel.

27:46.120 --> 27:48.120
Just so you know what's coming
up on this week's show.

27:48.120 --> 27:51.120
We've got a review of Overlord
on the Xbox 360.

27:51.120 --> 27:53.120
We're also reviewing
Transformers, the game,

27:53.120 --> 27:55.120
on the very same console.

27:55.120 --> 27:57.120
We've got a scary preview of
Silent Hill.

27:57.120 --> 27:59.120
And of course, you can win
copies of

27:59.120 --> 28:02.120
Lost Planet Extreme Condition on
the PC.

28:02.120 --> 28:03.120
For very exciting stuff,

28:03.120 --> 28:06.120
at gamesweasel.btpodshow.com

28:06.120 --> 28:07.120
Yeah, Adam.

28:07.120 --> 28:09.120
Keith from Vancouver BC.

28:09.120 --> 28:12.120
I failed compelled to send in
the comment.

28:12.120 --> 28:15.120
Just finished listening to
DSC632

28:15.120 --> 28:18.120
and had opening track was
outstanding.

28:18.120 --> 28:20.120
I had a pretty good day today

28:20.120 --> 28:23.120
and when I heard that track had
put me into

28:23.120 --> 28:25.120
an even better mood on the way
to Ikido.

28:25.120 --> 28:27.120
When I got home,

28:27.120 --> 28:30.120
went straight to iTunes and
bought it.

28:30.120 --> 28:32.120
The PMMemnet gets finest.

28:32.120 --> 28:34.120
PS.

28:34.120 --> 28:36.120
I wanted to do I'm not here to
comment,

28:36.120 --> 28:38.120
but my wife is asleep beside me,

28:38.120 --> 28:40.120
so I did this up on my neck.

28:40.120 --> 28:42.120
Ciao for now.

28:42.120 --> 28:44.120
Red pill.

28:44.120 --> 28:45.120
Fulder.

28:45.120 --> 28:48.120
I didn't sound the half bad
actually.

28:48.120 --> 28:52.120
That was pretty good.

28:52.120 --> 28:55.120
I did not sound half bad at all.

28:55.120 --> 28:56.120
I like that.

28:56.120 --> 28:57.120
If I came out of your Mac,

28:57.120 --> 28:59.120
dude, that's pretty, this got in
a lot better.

28:59.120 --> 29:00.120
That speech since this.

29:00.120 --> 29:01.120
DSC632.

29:01.120 --> 29:03.120
So that was Valley Lodge hanging
on.

29:03.120 --> 29:04.120
Yeah, fantastic track.

29:04.120 --> 29:05.120
I love those guys.

29:05.120 --> 29:08.120
They kind of like a Casey in the
Sunshine Band

29:08.120 --> 29:09.120
upside down in backwards.

29:09.120 --> 29:12.120
So I'm going to launch into this
whole thing

29:12.120 --> 29:15.120
about the BBC since I got so
many great comments.

29:15.120 --> 29:17.120
People giving examples of how
they were part of

29:17.120 --> 29:19.120
mainstream media deception.

29:19.120 --> 29:22.120
But before that, something I've
got to play

29:22.120 --> 29:24.120
you from the Pod Safe Music
Network.

29:24.120 --> 29:26.120
I believe Jersey Todd sent this
into me

29:26.120 --> 29:28.120
as something to play on the
Fubar Friday.

29:28.120 --> 29:30.120
You're going to love it because
the kleptones

29:30.120 --> 29:33.120
know the revolution.

29:33.120 --> 29:38.120
It will be televised if you're a
blue pill taker.

29:38.120 --> 29:42.120
Ladies and gentlemen, our
future.

29:42.120 --> 29:45.120
You will choose to stay at home,
brother.

29:45.120 --> 29:48.120
For you'll be able to do
everything you need

29:48.120 --> 29:50.120
from your potato couch.

29:50.120 --> 29:52.120
You'll be able to don your
virtual helmet

29:52.120 --> 29:55.120
and experience the revolution on
360

29:55.120 --> 30:00.120
degree around CGI.

30:00.120 --> 30:02.120
You may choose to view as manga

30:02.120 --> 30:05.120
or Hannah Barbera as the hair
bear bunch

30:05.120 --> 30:11.120
because a revolution will be
televised.

30:11.120 --> 30:13.120
The revolution will be brought
to you

30:13.120 --> 30:15.120
by Apple Mac or PC World

30:15.120 --> 30:18.120
with Nokia and Motorola
providing

30:18.120 --> 30:19.120
SMS updates.

30:19.120 --> 30:22.120
The revolution will show
pictures of

30:22.120 --> 30:25.120
hopefuls, cueing overnight for
the latest

30:25.120 --> 30:27.120
audition.

30:27.120 --> 30:33.120
The revolution will be sponsored
by

30:33.120 --> 30:35.120
Gown, the cocky and camel
collection.

30:35.120 --> 30:38.120
And it will storm me as you.

30:38.120 --> 30:41.120
You will play yourself or run
pit playing

30:41.120 --> 30:42.120
you.

30:42.120 --> 30:43.120
Or you.

30:43.120 --> 30:44.120
Playing grind pit.

30:44.120 --> 30:45.120
Playing you.

30:45.120 --> 30:47.120
The revolution will be smoked.

30:47.120 --> 30:48.120
Snorled.

30:48.120 --> 30:49.120
Injected.

30:49.120 --> 30:50.120
Chased on vaporized.

30:50.120 --> 30:52.120
It will be recorded on mini-dv

30:52.120 --> 30:54.120
and kept in the puppet.

30:54.120 --> 30:56.120
The revolution will be
digitized.

30:56.120 --> 30:58.120
Then transferred to all
available formats.

30:58.120 --> 31:00.120
It will appear on your favorite
CD

31:00.120 --> 31:01.120
as the bonus track.

31:01.120 --> 31:04.120
You'll be able to procure it
cheap on VHS.

31:04.120 --> 31:07.120
Or pay a little bit more for the
extra footage on DVD.

31:07.120 --> 31:10.120
Met a max will be available for
the old school.

31:10.120 --> 31:13.120
Who are more good shooting comes
you

31:13.120 --> 31:15.120
with the shelters and grips.

31:15.120 --> 31:19.120
The revolution will shoot from
the hip hip hip hip.

31:19.120 --> 31:23.120
I used to say

31:23.120 --> 31:25.120
I...

31:25.120 --> 31:27.120
I...

31:27.120 --> 31:29.120
I used to...

31:35.120 --> 31:38.120
The revolution will be
scratched.

31:38.120 --> 31:40.120
It will be spun back and
suffered as a loop.

31:40.120 --> 31:43.120
It will appear as the red button
on your remote control.

31:43.120 --> 31:45.120
The revolution will operate in a
job share.

31:45.120 --> 31:46.120
Or flexi time option.

31:46.120 --> 31:48.120
It's so you can have it at your
leisure.

31:48.120 --> 31:52.120
Because the revolution will be
ticked.

32:03.120 --> 32:04.120
The revolution will be burned.

32:04.120 --> 32:06.120
Highlight it in scent.

32:06.120 --> 32:08.120
It will have its own awards
ceremony.

32:08.120 --> 32:10.120
With the biggest winners unable
to attend.

32:10.120 --> 32:13.120
Except for via live satellite
link.

32:13.120 --> 32:17.120
Because of their current
revolutionary commitments.

32:17.120 --> 32:20.120
The revolution will be a tick up
in a storm.

32:20.120 --> 32:21.120
Or a bottle in a message.

32:21.120 --> 32:23.120
Or a door to a key.

32:23.120 --> 32:26.120
The revolution will always come
with fries.

32:26.120 --> 32:30.120
Because the revolution will be
televised.

32:30.120 --> 32:33.120
The revolution will be hard, my
brothers.

32:34.120 --> 32:36.120
Because it will use via gra.

32:36.120 --> 32:37.120
Come a gra.

32:37.120 --> 32:39.120
Arroll tight and hardening of
the arteries.

32:39.120 --> 32:41.120
In order to fill inside.

32:41.120 --> 32:42.120
Rumbles happy meal box.

32:42.120 --> 32:43.120
As the free gift.

32:43.120 --> 32:46.120
The revolution will have a new
twist.

32:46.120 --> 32:48.120
Sponsored by Levi.

32:48.120 --> 32:52.120
With a sticker campaign written
in an eligible graffiti style
font.

32:52.120 --> 32:56.120
Because the revolution will be
advertised.

32:56.120 --> 33:00.120
And paper view will have a whole
new meaning, brothers.

33:00.120 --> 33:03.120
The revolution will be available
for gameboy this fall.

33:03.120 --> 33:07.120
And Xbox and GameCube today.

33:07.120 --> 33:10.120
The revolution will be
televised.

33:10.120 --> 33:12.120
We'll be televised.

33:12.120 --> 33:14.120
We'll be televised brothers.

33:14.120 --> 33:18.120
Because the revolution is alive.

33:22.120 --> 33:23.120
Yeah.

33:23.120 --> 33:25.120
It's common sense.

33:25.120 --> 33:27.120
We go have Yasi Claire.

33:27.120 --> 33:28.120
Good bye.

33:29.120 --> 33:32.120
It's real hip hop music from the
Soya.

33:32.120 --> 33:33.120
Yeah.

33:33.120 --> 33:34.120
Say it.

33:34.120 --> 33:35.120
Yeah.

33:37.120 --> 33:38.120
I know you're out there.

33:38.120 --> 33:40.120
I can feel you now.

33:40.120 --> 33:42.120
I know that you're afraid.

33:42.120 --> 33:44.120
You're afraid of us.

33:44.120 --> 33:47.120
You're afraid of change.

33:47.120 --> 33:49.120
I don't know the future.

33:49.120 --> 33:52.120
I didn't come here to tell you
how this is going to end.

33:52.120 --> 33:56.120
They came here to tell you how
it's going to begin.

33:57.120 --> 33:59.120
I'm going to hang up this phone.

33:59.120 --> 34:02.120
And then I'm going to show these
people what you don't want them
to see.

34:02.120 --> 34:04.120
I'm going to show them more.

34:04.120 --> 34:06.120
Without you.

34:06.120 --> 34:08.120
A world without rules and
controls.

34:08.120 --> 34:10.120
Without borders or boundaries.

34:10.120 --> 34:12.120
A world.

34:12.120 --> 34:14.120
But anything is possible.

34:16.120 --> 34:20.120
Where we go from there is a
choice I leave to you.

34:20.120 --> 34:30.120
You may think it's a lot of old
cockman, but that's your
hangover.

34:30.120 --> 34:32.120
You bastard.

34:32.120 --> 34:33.120
Right.

34:33.120 --> 34:35.120
Supercalipraginistic spirality
doso.

34:35.120 --> 34:38.120
Thank you, if you seem to have a
son or a son.

34:38.120 --> 34:41.120
If you don't say it, you'll have
a success.

34:41.120 --> 34:45.120
Supercalipraginistic spirality
doso.

34:51.120 --> 34:54.120
Remember that three years ago,

34:54.120 --> 34:58.120
you had to return.

34:58.120 --> 35:00.120
You spent your children.

35:00.120 --> 35:03.120
You didn't want to tell me
what's going to end.

35:03.120 --> 35:06.120
Supercalipraginistic spirality
doso.

35:06.120 --> 35:08.120
Supercalipraginistic spirality
doso.

35:08.120 --> 35:10.120
Supercalipraginistic spirality
doso.

35:10.120 --> 35:12.120
Supercalipraginistic spirality
doso.

35:12.120 --> 35:19.120
No, of course that wasn't pod
save.

35:19.120 --> 35:26.960
No, it wasn't sending by Jersey
Todd Kenneth for Burrach sent in
a Gmail atom fastening shows
again lately

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concerning the TV deception
stuff, maybe track 20 at the
kleptones that I've humble

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with all put that link in the
show notes could be an
interesting piece of music

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a tie into the show.

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No idea if it's really pod save,
but they do offer it as a DM DRM
free download, yeah.

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No, I would guess that's not pod
save, particularly with Michael
Jackson's Ben track

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on there.

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No, no, don't think so, but the
whole point is well taken, the
revolution, if you see

35:49.920 --> 35:54.680
the revolution televised, be
very aware of my friends, you're
in the blue pill revolution.

35:54.680 --> 36:01.240
If you see something else coming
through the pipes, the series of
tubes, then you know

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it might be a real revolution.

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But first we've got a dismantle
this thing known as mainstream,
not that it has

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to go away.

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We just have to show you what it
is so you can recognize it and
remember inherently

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television makes use of lighting
and sets and zooms and cuts and
fades and all kinds

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of things that you will
understand much better if you
take the TV, the Zen TV
experiment.

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I'll just have to post the link
once again to it.

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Let's check out the phone lines.

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Of course, we have a number of
phone numbers for you to call in
one in the United States

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to New Jersey and one in London
in the UK.

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Hey, I'm Mr. John and Omaha, a
great story on a BBC thing.

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I've always been suspect, a
government run communication.

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Again, we're putting the media
into the hands of a few.

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I much rather have it in the
free market where I can decide
what I see is to or fact on

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what somebody else.

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Tell me if that or at least try
and show me that that might be
to or fact or fall, so

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I should say.

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Anyway, keep up the great work.

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I would say that I'm a red pill
and what you're doing with
Potcho is that total free

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marketization of the
communication out there and
getting this out of or into more
people's

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hands and out of the government
control.

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Again, that's my problem that I
have with the BBC and also the
FCC in the United States.

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Thanks, bye.

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Well, yes indeed.

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I'm glad you're slipping down
the red pillage there.

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BBC is a little bit different
though.

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It's yes, government and yes,
the government makes up a lot of
the rules and there's

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a board of governors and they're
all tied into the government.

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But the idea is, is
philosophically really good, you
know, it was like, hey, everyone

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he pony up some bucks, I think
it is like 136 pounds 50, so
about $300 a year.

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It's not insignificant, pony up
some money and we'll make some
great programming for you.

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The problem is, of course, that
it's really the problem is
ratings, you know, well,

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that's twofold ratings and
availability of bandwidth.

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Look, the BBC has, you know,
three main channels, really two
main channels.

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BBC won BBC two.

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There you go.

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That for television.

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Those can be seen by the entire
population because it's
distributed very widely, still

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distributed through the air for
free.

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Well, sorry, not for free
because of course you have to
pay up if you have a television.

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But there's only so much you can
shove down those channels.

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Yeah, they got the BBC three and
four and digital channels, but
you know, those audiences

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are much more limited in scope.

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So there's only so much you can
put on.

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So what do you want to put on?

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Well, you want to put on the
stuff that people like the most.

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The only way we have to
determine that is through
ratings and it's the same
ratings

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that the commercial guys look at
and, you know, the theory
remains the same.

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You know, you sure you may have
an niche program that is great
for a very small amount

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of people who love it and are
really happy and feel that
that's worth the fee that
they're

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paying.

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But probably it's not going to
see the light of day because
they have to, you know, all

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this stuff has to be pushed
through this very narrow piece
of bandwidth, no, you know,

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just two linear channels 24
hours a day.

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So they have to make choices.

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So it's never going to be your
niche programming that you like,
which is exactly why companies

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like pod show exists to bring
you that niche programming.

39:46.920 --> 39:52.080
Do you know how many aviation
programs I subscribe to when I
listen to, there's only half

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a million pilots in the United
States.

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It's really not that much, you
know, so of course, you're not
going to get tons of aviation

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shows through that very narrow
pipe, which is that linear,
linear playout basis.

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No, of course not.

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And once we are able to really
change advertising, show
advertisers what they can do and

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how much more rich the
environment is instead of your
20 to 30 second in your face
spot,

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I think we're really going to
have a lot of fun.

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It may be a bit of, you know,
pandemonium, but, uh, happy
thought.

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Hey, I understand John and
Omaha, great story on that BBC
thing.

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I've always been suspect.

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I'm sorry.

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I didn't mean to do that.

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Here's what I meant to do this
one.

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Hey, Adam, this is special event
of the financially.

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I guess that marking of a
conflict was an idea of C7, you
know, a great idea of how

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television is deceased.

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It'd be really cool.

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I mean, you could such a video
podcast, you know, I don't know
if a person's a flop, but

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whatever.

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But, uh, take some clips of
either stuff that you've done or
stuff that, you know, you

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production's your own part of
and all steps through, uh, with
the audience, okay, here's

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where he did this.

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Okay, here's where the, uh, the
satellite, think, uh, you know,
kind of got fun.

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Here's when we did this or
here's how he did this.

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And really show the man behind
the curtain, show the map, how
the magic tricks have

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done.

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I think it'd be instructive, you
know, for someone who's been in
media as long as you

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have and on the broadcast media,
so I just show all the tricks
and, uh, and secrets

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that are out there that
broadcast media uses and expose
them for what they are.

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Uh, they've been really, really
cool in a very second, a heck of
a lot of fun too.

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So hopefully we'll see that, uh,
from the, uh, the, uh, the, uh,
the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the

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hard show team.

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The great, uh, I, I just got it.

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Anyway, keep it for great work
and, um, stand tuned to the DSC.

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Yeah, man.

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Absolutely.

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And that's a great idea, Chris,
and I, and I, and I will try to
do that.

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It's hard, though, to remember,
I mean, this, it's been, my
mainstream broadcast career

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has been, uh, all deception, I
guess, of, uh, of the public,
you know, to, to, to varying

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degrees, you know, not really,
um, horrible.

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I do remember distinctly though,
I interviewed Madonna, um, in
1982 or 1983.

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She was holed up at the, uh, uh,
uh, what's the place that has
the, the Skylight Bar, uh,

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the La Mondrian when it was
still, maybe it's still called
La Mondrian on Sunset strip.

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And this was when she, uh, the
first time, no, it was the
second time she was releasing

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her album that had borderline on
it, like a virgin.

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She released that earlier in 81,
um, and I'd met her very, very
briefly at the Pirate

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of Station at Amsterdam, that,
but brief enough to do some hash
under a glass.

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She didn't, she didn't remember
me.

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That's for sure.

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Um, and, uh, you know, we, uh,
did the interview.

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We conducted the interview on on
the balcony overlooking Los
Angeles.

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And at one point, I can't
remember, it's a long time ago.

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I can't remember what I asked,
but she didn't like the
questions and said, this is
stupid.

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I'm not going to do this
anymore.

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And, you know, and she walked
in, uh, back into the room.

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She came out later to finish
off, but it was like, uh, it
was, she was so bitchy and so

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mean.

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And it was so weird that she did
that.

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Well, maybe that wasn't weird.

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I can't remember what I asked,
but something apparently
offended.

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But it's just through a little
minor history fit, not a
problem, right?

43:15.600 --> 43:20.120
But when we put that interview
on television, it was, of
course, intercut with the pieces

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of the video from like a virgin,
and I think pieces of
borderline.

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And that entire piece was, you
know, there were two edits.

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Our director actually had made a
fantastic edit where he really
showed how pissy Madonna

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looked.

43:34.880 --> 43:39.880
I think for the time it was
revolutionary, you know, and put
that whole piece in and, and it

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was, it was much more a
representation of what had
happened on the spot.

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But management said, no, no, no,
come on, man, she's a big star
and people want to

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love her.

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And, you know, let's just make
it into a happy piece.

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And so, well, you know, it
wasn't horrible.

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I think it was wrong because it
would have been so much more
interesting to have seen,

43:58.560 --> 44:03.240
you know, to have seen that side
of her, particularly at that
moment in her, uh, in her

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career.

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But it didn't happen.

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I was, you know, it was changed,
changed to fit whatever made
sense for the ratings, I

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guess.

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In fact, literally, to make
sense for whatever made sense
for the ratings.

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Hey, Adam, it's Jeff Sats,
calling in from Florida,
regarding your television
deception

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conversation.

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Um, the kind of stuff you'd do
with Janet Jackson is definitely
standard operating procedure

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for interviewing, especially
when things are often done with
a single camera.

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Um, in the early 80s, pretty
much my first job at a college,
I produced a show called

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Celebrity on cable television,
Allison Spiel, the nightbird,
was the host of this.

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She was a terrific woman, a real
character.

44:44.320 --> 44:47.600
Got plenty of Allison Spiel
stories for another time.

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Um, excuse me.

44:48.600 --> 44:53.120
Anyway, we would cover all the
movie premieres and the press
junk that's going on in New York

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and we'd have access to all the
stars to interview them about
the movies and we'd go

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to the premieres.

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So we always went with a single
camera and we set up the
interviews with a single camera,

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shoot.

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So we would shoot the interview
east.

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We tried to get over the
shoulders, shot or two of
Allison talking to them from the

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office chair.

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And then at a later time,
sometimes right then in the area
to the celebrity left, but
sometimes

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back in our offices at a later
date, we would shoot out and
asking the questions and then

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it would all be edited together
in the finished product, we'd
look like Allison was sitting

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there talking to the celebrity,
standard practice, probably
still standard practice today.

45:29.120 --> 45:33.160
One time Allison was sick, she
couldn't show up and we were
supposed to interview Robin

45:33.160 --> 45:34.160
Williams.

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So I show up to the junkets and
I tell Robin Williams, I show
the picture of Allison Spiel and

45:39.560 --> 45:43.440
I say, she's going to be the
hostess, but she's not here, so
I'm going to interview you,

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but when it airs, it's going to
be awesome interviewing you.

45:45.840 --> 45:49.560
No problem with Robin Williams,
it's a terrific guy in person,
great to interview.

45:49.560 --> 45:50.560
We went through the interview.

45:50.560 --> 45:54.600
I asked all the questions, I was
very careful not to let my voice
overlap with his, so the

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editors wouldn't have any
problem.

45:56.600 --> 46:01.040
We went our very way, at a later
date, we shot Allison asking the
questions, put it

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all together and when the show
aired, it looked like Allison
Spiel was sitting in the

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area in the room with Robin
Williams, doing the interview,
of course she wasn't there.

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Standard practice happens all
the time.

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Thanks again.

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Yo, man, thank you for sharing.

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Oh, absolutely.

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I definitely still happens all
the time.

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In fact, that's one of the parts
I love about John Stewart's
daily show, the most,

46:20.640 --> 46:24.520
is where they, I'm sure you've
seen the interviews, where
they're interviewing someone

46:24.520 --> 46:28.960
about some serious topic and
then there's all kinds of bogus
asked questions and then

46:28.960 --> 46:29.960
stupid answers.

46:29.960 --> 46:34.840
And if you look really closely,
so for instance, Samantha B will
be on camera over the

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shoulder of the person who's
being interviewed.

46:36.400 --> 46:40.320
You'll see that that person's
mouth is moving, you'll see
their jaw moving or the side

46:40.320 --> 46:43.480
of their, the side of their
cheek and you'll see that it
isn't in sync with what they're

46:43.480 --> 46:44.480
actually saying.

46:44.480 --> 46:47.880
Those things are completely cut
together because you're right.

46:47.880 --> 46:52.200
They go off with one camera, do
the interview and then do what
we call cutaways and

46:52.280 --> 46:56.080
noties and the noties are really
important.

46:56.080 --> 46:59.440
When you have an interview with
someone, the first thing that
always happens, it's cut

46:59.440 --> 47:00.440
down to length.

47:00.440 --> 47:04.680
You know, it's like we got,
that's how the sound bite came
to and came into existence.

47:04.680 --> 47:11.000
You know, hey, look, we've got
one minute, so we're going to
put this in, put this in,

47:11.000 --> 47:13.880
we're going to do a cutaway here
and now the cutaway, when they
do an edit, that's what

47:13.880 --> 47:18.040
they need that, that you'll
watch it now, you'll see it on
the news all the time, you'll

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see the interviewer doing one of
these, yeah, so, you know, very
interested, like head

47:22.440 --> 47:29.240
shaking up and down, yeah, yeah,
and it's a talent, the worst
thing, by the way, is to

47:29.240 --> 47:35.400
interview someone and then after
they're, you have to interview,
you're saying, okay,

47:35.400 --> 47:38.760
we need some cutaways, that
means they have to sit there,
the camera moves to over their

47:38.760 --> 47:43.640
shoulder and you ask the exact
same fucking questions again.

47:43.640 --> 47:48.520
So it's like, it's not, it's
completely removed from a
natural dialogue and in your
case,

47:48.520 --> 47:53.640
wow, you showed a picture, this
is what the first thing will
look like in the finished
product.

47:53.640 --> 47:56.280
You created a little, little
mini feature right there.

47:56.280 --> 47:57.280
So is it deception?

47:57.280 --> 48:01.880
Yeah, you know, it's, it's just
good to understand how it works
because it's exactly what

48:01.880 --> 48:02.880
goes on.

48:02.880 --> 48:07.320
And again, I really have stories
where all the good shit was lost
because of the stupid

48:07.320 --> 48:13.720
system, the way this is supposed
to work, I interviewed Paul
McCartney at MPL, McCartney

48:13.720 --> 48:17.560
publishing limited, in the same
time around, you know, it
wasn't, maybe even before I

48:17.560 --> 48:21.960
interviewed Madonna in those
very early 80 days when I still
working in the Netherlands.

48:21.960 --> 48:27.920
And so MPL and London, and I
spilled tea all over his MPL
rug, you know, the big McCartney

48:27.920 --> 48:28.920
logo.

48:28.920 --> 48:33.040
And, you know, and so there we
are in our hands and knees
trying to, you know, mop up this

48:33.040 --> 48:37.800
tea, ding elevator opens, Linda
walks in, she's on her hands and
knees, completely

48:37.800 --> 48:40.040
beautiful, beautiful television.

48:40.040 --> 48:45.160
We had those stupid, vis-news
guys that was like, you know,
because of the unions, you

48:45.160 --> 48:49.000
couldn't bring your own camera
guy, you had to use someone, it
was employed locally.

48:49.000 --> 48:53.720
And so these like, these half
dead guys for vis-news and, you
know, you could rent them.

48:53.720 --> 48:54.960
And a guy had turned a camera
off.

48:54.960 --> 48:58.160
He wasn't even, he was like,
just sitting there looking like,
oh, well, it spilled

48:58.160 --> 48:59.160
tea.

48:59.240 --> 49:03.800
Oh, that good stuff, all that
good stuff, all lost.

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Hi, Adam, this is Raymond from
the Netherlands and I was
watching some live TV a couple

49:11.560 --> 49:16.760
of years ago, from the NOS,
which is of course our Dutch
public service, and it was

49:16.760 --> 49:21.440
the interview with the Newt
Lover, so then the Prime
Minister or the Minister of

49:21.440 --> 49:29.880
President, and, well, anyways,
at the 8 o'clock news at that
night, they changed the

49:29.880 --> 49:35.080
live interview, they changed the
order of the questions, and by
doing that, they also

49:35.080 --> 49:41.600
gave the impression that is a
viewpoint on the matter and was,
I don't remember exactly

49:41.600 --> 49:45.760
what it was about, but it was
really surprising that, by just
changing a couple of questions,

49:45.760 --> 49:49.840
you know, the order that they
could change something like
that, and it was very
disappointing

49:49.880 --> 49:54.000
because at that time I was
thinking, well, the NOS, you
know, national public
television,

49:54.000 --> 49:58.720
that's supposed to be truthful
and all that kind of stuff, but
there you go, it's just

49:58.720 --> 50:00.720
vacant, for sure, all of them.

50:00.720 --> 50:01.720
Bye.

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Yeah, all part of the blue pill
world that we live in, my
friend, and it doesn't just
happen

50:05.160 --> 50:06.160
in television.

50:06.160 --> 50:16.680
Yeah, I'm a totally different,
I'm calling in about the DOE,
what is it, the 637, and you

50:16.680 --> 50:24.880
were asking about media, asked
to call in about media, and if
you were to show anything

50:24.880 --> 50:29.440
where we were part of a
deception, well, I can't say you
did that, I was on a media show,

50:29.440 --> 50:35.960
but I was at a sporting event,
and at the time, I was a sports
blogger, I wrote

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stories on a local sports team
here in Minnesota, and I knew
the ownership were well,

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and they had a contest going on,
and they couldn't get anybody to
participate in the

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contest, I guess, I don't see
why they couldn't get anybody,
but they asked me, if I

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would grab my kid, and
participated in it, and we did,
and we had fun doing it, but

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I don't know if it was the other
participant in it, was also from
the media, from a local

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newspaper.

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So, we've heard in the beginning
about it, but just got the media
involved, and of course,

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I wrote about it in my blog at
the time, so sports teams do the
same thing, and the

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new people are a lot of friends
are seeing, and they're the more
excited, and I'm hoping

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that they're going to be part of
it, not the center, but the
sports teams are doing

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it as well.

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Sure.

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I've got to let you know that
one thing, so I'd have a good
day.

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Yeah, man.

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It's all a part of
entertainment.

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Oh, contest.

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It's the worst.

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Any type of contest.

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You know why?

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Because they want to have people
who look good on camera, or
excuse me, sound good on the

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air.

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Oh, man.

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There's not a single phone call
that I haven't played back on
traditional radio, where

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I wouldn't have cut out at least
five or six different bits.

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You know, digital recording and
editing in on-air studios
becomes such a big deal.

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Because, you know, you get a
contest winner.

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Oh, man, I've heard this
shocky's go, you know, you just
won $100, and it didn't take

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it to see the Rolling Stones,
and the person would go, oh,
cool.

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And then the disc shocker say,
oh, hold on, man.

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I'm recording this.

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I want you to sound really
excited, and I'll ask the
question again, you'll just say,

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you just won $100, and then take
it to the Rolling Stones, and of
course, the person

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goes, woo, woo, woo.

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It's all fake.

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They weren't excited, and for
the length of fuck, I already
had, you know, Rolling Stones

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who cares, don't know, no matter
anymore.

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Of course, of all the feedback
I've received, not everybody
agrees.

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I had a minute to roll it from
the Don't Compass podcast.

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Just listening to your daily
source code, six, three, seven,
yes, today's one about the BBC,

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and the way that TV has accepted
the masses, and to be honest, I
mean, I've worked for

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the BBC for crying out loud, and
so it's not as bad as you'd
quite think.

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I mean, this kind of thing isn't
going to bring down the British
Broadcasting Corporation,

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I can tell you that for a
kick-off.

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The Director General is, as so
rightly, cancelled all these
things for a huge review, and,
you

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know, things will get put into
place, the deception is no
longer there, you know, it's

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a really important thing that,
to be able to see a doing, not
just in trying to sort

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this problem out, but of the
content that they give, and
they're reviewing over a million

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hours of footage to see if
there's any other incidents like
this.

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There's going to be the people
in question of all being
suspended or dismissed, and,
yeah,

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it's going to be interesting
times, but the BBC do absolutely
fantastic job, and you'll

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comment about Britain, the
company down, the corporation
down, I feel, is a long one,

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it's not, it's the trust will
come back, the trust of the
public will come back to the

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BBC, I am convinced of that.

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Oh, Adam, I just thought I'd
throw my tuppins into the pond,
take it easy, by now.

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Oh, dude, your tuppins is more
than appreciated, please, open
wide, I'm going to shove a

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red pill down your throat
because you really need one.

54:43.440 --> 54:49.080
Maybe I should explain what I
mean by their coming down,
they're going down.

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Let's just understand that the
nature of media has become, but
I think always has been

54:57.880 --> 55:06.720
about audience size, getting
more people to tune in, stop by,
pick it up, read it, surf

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to download, it's about more and
more people, it's always been
about that.

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The problem is, before we could
actually, before we actually
understood the beast, and of

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course we understand how
television works were getting
pretty good out of ourselves,
just

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go to YouTube or look at any of
the pod show video shows, you
know, we understand how to

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make this media, it's not all
that hard, you know, it's now we
have all those tools,

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it's about the distribution, and
this distribution, of course,
has been extremely interesting

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to people of power, people, and
that's not just politicians,
it's also people have something

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to sell, you know, big consumer
goods companies, and they've
been able to, the whole,

55:51.320 --> 55:56.600
the whole architecture is based
upon, again, you know, the most
people, it's the sureest

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way to get your message out, the
more people you are able to
reach.

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There's no real targeting going
on yet, yeah, there's some, you
know, of course there's

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niche channels, and, you know,
what's happening now with
independent media is there's
tons

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of niche stuff around, it's my,
I see my job is to enable that
to continue by being able

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to monetize on it, you can't do
shit for free forever, just
doesn't work that way,

56:21.600 --> 56:28.000
however, there's no real malice,
I do not believe in a grand
master plan, there's no

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master plan that says let's
deceive the public, you know,
people who get up in the morning

56:32.520 --> 56:36.080
and go to work for television
aren't thinking about that, but
they are thinking one thing,

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we've got to entertain, we've
got to get the ratings, we've
got to get as many people

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watching or listening or reading
or downloading or surfing to or
page viewing, that's

56:47.520 --> 56:53.120
just the nature of it, because
that's how you make a
sustainable business, of course

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there's a lot of people who
don't have to do this at all,
and you can continue doing

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independent stuff, but if you
want to grow, you need money,
it's just a fact, I can't help

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it, I can't get around it, so
the flow of media, the way it
from where I see it is,

57:15.120 --> 57:20.000
and I think probably associated
press is one of the biggest
problems, you have these

57:20.000 --> 57:28.800
huge indicators of so-called
news, and what distinguishes
news and how it's reported and

57:28.800 --> 57:34.400
how factual it is doesn't matter
after it's first introduced,
because and you can follow

57:34.400 --> 57:41.680
this, every other single media
property will quote that
so-called reliable source, and
then

57:41.680 --> 57:46.400
other people will quote that
source that's quoting the
reliable source, it's the
copy-paced

57:46.400 --> 57:52.800
culture, because this problem is
not just in television, it's not
just in radio, it's in print,

57:52.800 --> 57:57.280
it's in newspapers, we need
viewers, we need people to be
interested, so what are the
stories,

57:57.280 --> 58:01.520
people are interested in, well
they're interested in crap,
they're interested in Britney
Spears,

58:01.520 --> 58:08.480
yes we're also interested in
Iraq and Afghanistan and North
Korea, but if you're going to

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present it in a boring way,
we're just not going to watch it
because we want to be spoon fed

58:11.840 --> 58:15.600
like all the other stuff, why
all of a sudden do I have to
work extra hard to understand

58:15.600 --> 58:19.920
what's going on on the news, no,
that's what people wake up in
the morning to do and they don't

58:19.920 --> 58:24.240
really even realize it, they're
all blue pillars, it's okay and
they're just doing what they
love

58:24.240 --> 58:29.600
doing, they like creating media
and having lots of people pay
attention to it, that's that's
the only

58:29.600 --> 58:37.680
job, so you can't really fault
anyone, however what I predict
is going to happen, I think
you're right

58:38.400 --> 58:44.800
is yes the trust will come back
and yes the BBC will implement
all kinds of editorial controls

58:45.520 --> 58:50.720
and all kinds of gates to make
sure that you know the stuff
that gets on the air or on the

58:50.720 --> 58:56.320
website or on television or
whatever that it's accurate and
that it's correct and guess
what,

58:56.320 --> 59:03.680
it's going to be boring, it's
going to be incredibly fucking
boring, that's our chance

59:04.960 --> 59:12.400
because I do believe because we
don't have this limitation of
time that we can make things

59:12.400 --> 59:20.560
interesting to a large audience
and that audience can be a long
tale of many many niche
audiences

59:20.960 --> 59:25.360
and we can do it in an
entertaining way, look, you
know, I didn't have to stop
after 30 minutes of

59:25.360 --> 59:29.600
this podcast because I didn't
have to, you didn't have to
listen to it either, you could
just

59:29.600 --> 59:34.640
fast forward to the bits you
wanted to or skip over pieces,
there's your core difference,
that's

59:34.640 --> 59:41.200
where we win because people will
migrate, they'll migrate to the
things they want to hear,

59:41.280 --> 59:46.560
the things that are interesting
to them and it could be very,
very niche but we're going to
win

59:46.560 --> 59:52.960
when the BBC and other
mainstream media have so many
regulations and so much porn on
top of them

59:52.960 --> 59:59.360
that they'll just be boring
because that will also bring
upon a huge financial problem
because

01:00:00.560 --> 01:00:05.600
all of these phone lines, all of
these scams that were in place
and make no mistake, they're
scams,

01:00:05.600 --> 01:00:10.400
oh yeah, I think I'm going to
get a text back from that really
cute chick, I don't get one

01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:14.720
text back from a cute chick, I
get three a week, I'm
automatically subscribed, these
are scams,

01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:20.560
complete scams, just a rob
people of money, you know, of
course people are gullible but
they're

01:00:20.560 --> 01:00:24.080
waking up to that now, that's
the whole other side of this and
this is going to happen in the

01:00:24.080 --> 01:00:30.560
United States as well and you're
going to see that television,
particularly television, has
been

01:00:31.600 --> 01:00:39.280
subsidizing their mere existence
through these phone scams and
they'll have to go back to very

01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:45.680
boring, very simple programming.
Hi Adam, this is Alex from
podcastjunkie.co.uk,

01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:52.800
loved your DSC 637, I've come up
with a letter to the BBC that
I've posted at my blog and it

01:00:52.800 --> 01:00:58.720
goes something like this, do a
BBC, has I've been paying you in
good faith for honest television

01:00:58.720 --> 01:01:05.040
programming to principally sum
of £135.50 a year and there's
obviously you've been cheating

01:01:05.040 --> 01:01:10.480
lying to me and to millions of
people, what do you say I'll
skip paying you for the next
year?

01:01:11.120 --> 01:01:16.000
After all you haven't been
providing me with the service I
would expect, have you? You've
lied

01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:21.280
and you've cheated, you've been
given a year to clean up your
act, however as you've been
lying

01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:26.800
and cheating for years, I really
don't think that me with holding
only one year's license fee
could

01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:32.560
be considered illegal, do you?
Thanks for the great show's Adam
and regards to you and all your

01:01:32.640 --> 01:01:41.520
listeners, massive red pill.
Yeah, there's one thing I hadn't
even thought about in the

01:01:41.520 --> 01:01:47.120
midst of all of this, but John
points it out very well. Hi
Adam, he's John, long time
listener,

01:01:47.920 --> 01:01:54.880
the BBC, a public service
broadcaster, paid for by the
license fee, by license fee,

01:01:55.760 --> 01:02:00.400
he read out seven instances
where they confess now to break
in the rules again.

01:02:02.240 --> 01:02:09.600
They were recently signed
£50,000, so the bleep teacher
isn't aware they did the same
thing,

01:02:09.600 --> 01:02:15.760
presumably there's another seven
now, are they going to be signed
at £50,000?

01:02:16.720 --> 01:02:25.760
In the room, $60,000, it's mine,
they're like the rules, they get
signed, they pay with my money!

01:02:27.600 --> 01:02:34.160
Want to load a shit? Thanks
Adam. Dude, you're so spot on, I
hadn't even thought about that,

01:02:34.160 --> 01:02:40.560
the 50,000, it's your money,
it's my money, where's it going
to? It's going to the
government,

01:02:40.560 --> 01:02:46.160
that is, you're so right, man,
that is so incredibly wrong, the
penalties have to be completely

01:02:46.160 --> 01:02:52.960
overhauled, good point and a
good, good, good point in the
show to wrap it up with one last
song,

01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:57.200
which is from the pod save music
network authorized by Alice
Cooper himself.

01:02:58.750 --> 01:08:03.840
[ Music ]

01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:06.840
Only when I'm bleeding

01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:09.840
Only when I'm bleeding

01:08:09.840 --> 01:08:12.840
It's got to be one of my
favorite Alice Cooper tracks of
all time

01:08:12.840 --> 01:08:13.840
All time

01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:15.840
All to you pot safe

01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:17.840
By Wednesday

01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:18.840
Only when I'm bleeding

01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:20.840
Fully sanctioned by Alice Cooper

01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:22.840
To put it on the pot safe music
network

01:08:22.840 --> 01:08:24.840
So another cool for the
networking

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What an awesome song

01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:26.840
Definitely

01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:28.840
Another piece of the puzzle

01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:30.840
To the soundtrack of my life

01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:31.840
That I love to share with you

01:08:31.840 --> 01:08:33.840
Daily source go dot com

01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:34.840
Adam at podshow.com

01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:35.840
For your feedback

01:08:35.840 --> 01:08:37.840
I'll talk to you guys tomorrow

01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:38.840
Bye bye now

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Stick it in your ear