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Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

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I'll speak briefly after which I
will yield the balance in my
time to my honorable colleague

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from the great state of Nirvana.

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After much deliberation,
discussion, and debate,

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I believe we have crafted a
resolution which please is all
concerned parties

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and have settled on language
which is clear, concise and
complete

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and I now submit for immediate
consideration,

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cross-resolution Delta Sierra
Charlie 677 which in its final
form states simply

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fuck you at a burry.

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Well, the winds have changed to
blowing my friend.

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It's time to elect a president
again.

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I'd love a spirited debate, so
I'd be ready for a wait.

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Let's get at them to get the
candidate online.

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Come on at them, get the message
on the line.

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I really want to know what this
stand for.

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I really want to know what they
mean.

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Don't you crack the internet and
rip it wide open?

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Know it's your vote and it's
mine.

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It'll all be okay.

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If I had my say, I'd love at
them to get the candidate
online.

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Come on at them, get run, Paul
online.

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There's $16 million worth of
airplane strapped to my ass.

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Then the next generation radio
content in my ears.

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I like to think I'm flying into
the future.

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I'm fasting, fasting, fasting,
fasting, fasting.

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I've read it in the news to dig
it.

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$6,000 on the way.

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I'll take another cut in bed.

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That's a young America singing
to you.

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The Alexander the Soul of
America from the Podsafe music
network.

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He's from Texas.

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Coincidentally, we'll be talking
to a gentleman from Texas in
just a few moments.

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His daily source code episode
number 677, a really important
one for me.

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Today, we're scheduled to speak
with Dr. Ron Paul.

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He is the Republican candidate
from Texas.

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He's a congressman.

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He's been a congressman for 10
years, over 10 years.

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I believe he's been in politics.

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Also a medical doctor.

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Everyone likes to always say
he's delivered over more than
4,000 babies.

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And we're going to talk to him
today.

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And as places many questions
before him,

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that have arisen on the daily
source code in the past couple
of weeks.

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Since I discovered Dr. Ron Paul.

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And I've got to tell you, I'm
not nervous, but I'm kind of
anxious because, you know,

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politicians, no matter, you
know, they're really trained at
answering questions.

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And always very protective.

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So, you know, my strategy for
this is first, I'm going to
really suck up to him,

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although it's meant and
hard-filled.

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Then I want to get a little
background on just a
constitution in general, I
think.

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And then ask a, you know, some
questions about the issues that
we've been discussing here.

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And then, you know, all the
other things that actually, you
haven't sent me all that many
questions I have to say.

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Although, a lot of you have
requested a discussion
specifically about a couple of,

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a couple of topics like the
second amendment, like Roe
versus Wade.

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So we'll do that.

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And of course, I'll try and ask
some personal questions as well.

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Try to sneak those in.

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So, I want to second.

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I'm doing this through Skype.

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Patricia's not home.

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Christina's not home.

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It's three in the afternoon as
agreed to the reason I'm saying
they're not home.

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So they can't be sucking on the
bandwidth and make my Skype mess
up.

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Well, they're watching porn or
YouTube video.

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So, let's, let's, let's second.

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Here we go.

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Hello.

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Dr. Ron Paul.

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It is.

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Hi, it's Adam Curry.

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Good.

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Dr. Ron, first of all, do you
mind if I call you Dr. Ron?

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Is that okay?

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That's fine.

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I just run.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Well, I kind of like Dr. Ron and
sounds.

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Okay.

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I just want to give you a little
background on myself, my
audience before we start,

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which is the audience is about
500,000 in size spread across
the entire globe.

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60% in the United States.

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I myself am an American citizen.

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I've contributed millions in
income tax, corporate tax,
capital gains tax,

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employ thousands of people,
including giving them health and
dental care.

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I've only lived half of my life
in the United States and
therefore have a lot of
experience with other forms of
government.

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But most importantly, although I
have no party affiliation, I
come from a very long history of
Republicans.

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Many of whom have served in
government.

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So I know very well what the
sacrifices are that that brings.

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So to start off, I just want to
say very sincerely.

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I thank you for your service to
the United States.

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You are a true patriot.

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Anyone who does this is a
patriot.

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So I want to thank you for that
to start off with.

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Thank you.

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And so in independent media, Dr.
Ron, you know, there's no top of
the hour, no news.

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We have as much time as you
have.

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We don't have to hurry along.

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I want to give you the
opportunity to really delve into
a lot of questions that my
audience is as

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bring to the table today through
me.

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And I personally, I just love
you as I see as a man of
dichotomy.

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And which is really how I was
introduced to you and the
platform that you stand for and
that you represent through the
Internet.

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Of course, you know, where you
have a Republican who's against
the war that grabs people's
attention.

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You know, a medical doctor
against centralized health care.

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Those things really always grab
attention because because you
have a platform.

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I believe you stand on the
platform of the Constitution,
right?

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Correct.

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So what I've noticed is you have
this knack of relating every
single issue that people are
talking about, particularly in
these elections.

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Back to the Constitution, which
actually I've seen in the
debates usually goes
uncontested, which is pretty
interesting.

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So I'd just like to take a
couple of the top issues that
the audience has talked about.

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And maybe you could explain your
position on each one.

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And if possible, take it down to
the constitutional level so we
can really understand where
you're coming from.

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Does that make sense?

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And and and really and this is
this is kind of a really a
really weird question.

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I believe that there's a huge
misconception about the form of
government that the United
States is based on.

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It would be fair to ask you if
you could help American to
forgotten or have not been
educated and certainly residents
of other countries to understand
the difference between.

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The democracy and a republic
just so we can set some very
basic understanding of how
America is supposed to work.

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First, the the republic means
that things aren't dictated to
us by a majority vote.

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If you appear democracy is one
of the worst types of
dictatorships because the
majority can rule over the
minority.

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The majority protects minority
rights and you take your
government and decentralize it
and you have representative
governments.

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You don't just vote on
everything and you don't have
arbitrary definition of what
rights are all about.

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And it's supposed to be held in
check with a contract which is
the constitution.

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And it was designed to establish
a republic, not a non a
democracy.

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Today we we have a democracy
where majority dictates against
the the minority.

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And in the process we have lost
a concept of the
decentralization of government.

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Everything is centralized not
only at the Washington level but
even at the international level
because now we're working on
international government through
the UN and WTO and the regional
type.

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And government so it's going in
directly opposite direction of
what was intended by the
founders of this country to
establish and the end of
constitution they republican
form of government.

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Did somewhere alone along the
way did in the past you know
over 200 years did something at
high jack how did this happen
that that we've gone from this
concept which has written down
and to be followed to what
centralized government large
government has become today.

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And it was gradual in in cities
and it probably started
immediately and the debates at
the convention the constitution
convention really dealt with
this you know when you had the
Hamiltonians argued for a strong
centralized government where
Jefferson argued for the
decentralized government.

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So immediately after they
started moving in that direction
but it really didn't move
dramatically away from the
concept of republican republic
until the 20th century.

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I think in the early part of
that that century we changed our
foreign policy toward empire
rather than just protecting and
dealing with our own republic.

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We changed our attitude about
money.

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We changed our attitude about
taxes we had income tax imposed
on us as well as if they central
bank.

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And throughout the 20th century
it was continuous and in cities
and of course we've had a lot of
problems since we've had the
century perpetual war.

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And business cycles that become
more.

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More rampant all the time and
now we're in a midst of a
problem dealing with our dollar
today.

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This is an all consequence of
the natural tendency of some
people who want to rule over
others and also fade into it by
a lot of people who like to be
taken care of.

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And then they become negligent
of the principles of the law and
the principles of individual
liberty.

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And we get careless and
sometimes the prosperity that
comes out of a of a freer
society and more republican form
of society tends to.

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Some people think only about the
prosperity and forget about the
principles and that's where we
are today.

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We still have prosperity but
it's based on borrowing.

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Not on the fact that we're a
free people producing a lot of
goods and services that the
world wants.

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So as this was a gradual process
over maybe 50, 60 years, maybe
100 years or quite a long time.

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But it would seem almost logical
that we can't reverse that
overnight. I mean, is this
something it can even be
reversed in a single or or
double presidential term.

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It's going to be difficult, but
the thing you did good on this
path and knowing the wrong path
is of course not very not a very
wise thing to do.

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And it is difficult, but if we
don't do it, we will have a
reversal or something much worse
because this is the last little
collapse.

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And do you think that's imminent
within our lifetime the collapse
of the system?

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I think the foundation is gone,
but there's still a lot of
facing confidence in the system
that really doesn't have a sound
foundation.

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The world still does a large
degree trust the dollar less so
every day and of course that's
why the dollar is going down.

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But if the dollar is rejected
and our house comes crashing
down, we won't be able to
maintain our empire and the
welfare system collapses too.

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But a lot of people will suffer
from it.

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But there is a way out of this
and it's merely returning to
what was originally intended by
the Constitution.

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It will be the Constitution live
within our means, bring our
troops home.

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And we could reverse it, but it
is not easy.

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It's so well ingrained in the
special interest control of the
control of the system because
the government controls the
wealth through the taxes and
through the inflationary
process.

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And therefore, since they
control and have the wealth,
everybody has to go to
Washington to get their parts
either trying to get their part
back again or getting to try to
get control of it.

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And that's what's going on.

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That's where all the energy is
spent today is trying to recover
or steal from the Naples and
their neighbor just through the
political process.

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So when you speak like this,
which I think is very eloquent
what you just said, do you talk
like this at Republican Party
gatherings?

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Do you even meet with other
members of the Republican Party?

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And what do you call the power
brokers think of this?

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So what is the response?

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Because it is what the
Republican Party should stand
for, I believe.

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Well, I don't go to any of the
major parties and you know,
functions, they national party
functions.

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They probably wouldn't want to
hear this message.

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I mean, I run as a Republican.

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I've been elected as a
Republican for 10 times.

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I go to a rally, go to rallies
in my own district.

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And every political talk I ever
gave is always the same thing.

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And I'm able to get elected and
real elected in my own district.

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But not many people knew me
outside my district up until
this campaign.

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So it is a bigger testing
grounds.

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You're able to overcome it in a
small district to overcome the
status quo of the Republican
Party.

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But it's a bigger challenge now
and it's pretty clear when you
see the debates that the other
candidates aren't very
comfortable with what I'm
saying.

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Yeah, I think there's a lot of
Republicans and most Americans
who agree with me.

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Let's talk about it.

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I do want to come back to that
for a second about the party and
your affiliation to it.

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But I'd like to just go through
a couple of the issues that all
candidates are talking about.

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But yet you have a very
different take on them.

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If you wouldn't mind, we just go
through a couple of them.

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And the one that has been big
debate on this program with the
audience is the second
amendment, the right to bear
arms.

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There's huge misunderstanding of
the amendment.

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There's all kinds of different
interpretations.

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And and that is I believe the
basis for your willingness to
bring back not just troops from
Iraq, but troops from all around
the world back to the United
States.

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Could you just delve into that
and hopefully as we peel the
layers away, we'll get down to
the actual amendment itself.

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So so we can understand your
your take on it.

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Yeah, the founders for rather
clear in the Constitution not to
give the authority the or imply
that we have a responsibility to
deal with other countries in a
military sense or get involved
in their internal affairs.

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And that's what they preach and
that's what they followed.

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We don't have a authority to do
it and the advice is it doesn't
do much good for us to get
involved in nation building and
policing the world and being
involved in their affairs.

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And yet that's what we've been
doing and that's how we've
gotten ourselves in the trouble
and that's why we're on the
verge of a of a bankruptcy.

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But in the same sense, we both
have a strong national fence and
the founders believe the
strongest defense came from the
individuals being armed.

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And they were very clear about
it and the purpose of having
individuals being armed was
their right to organize locally
into malicious for the
protection of their community
and actually protection against.

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We're bearing federal
government. It wasn't just to
worry about an invasion.

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But it was also they went to
people to be armed because they
knew what it was like under the
British that the abuse of the
military and the British
military was such that they
didn't want that to happen to
the people again.

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So the second amendment was
written for that purpose.

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And obviously it was in context
of a foreign policy that we
weren't supposed to have an
empire on the world.

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So many people will say this
amendment is outdated by today's
standards. What is your stance
on that?

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It's probably more important
than ever before.

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I mean, we're living in
dangerous times and with the
threat of terrorism.

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And that is pretty vague, but
people who commit violent acts
and these are criminals, these
aren't governments that are
invading us.

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So it becomes a lot different
than a military approach.

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I don't know if it was like in
the Cold War where we were
frightened that the Soviets
might attack us and maybe even
invade and really try to do
great harm to us.

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That was different than it is
today. So terrorism is done by
individuals who are distraught
and don't have there's anybody's
weak people because they don't
have a political base and they
don't have a military army
behind them.

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And one of the best things to do
is for people who don't properly
be able to protect against
individuals like that.

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So the immediate reaction to
something like that is, oh yeah,
but not 11 was different. Look
at what they did.

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But it was the lack of respect
for property rights and
understanding of property in the
lack of respect for the second
amendment, which permitted that
to happen.

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The government was already
supposed to protect us from
hijackers on airplanes. We
weren't to have, the pilots
weren't to have guns and you
weren't supposed to resist.

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And the airlines weren't in
charge with the government was
in charge and they did, you
know, had all the rules and
regulations of screening.

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So strong emphasis on private
property rights and emphasis
that individuals can use guns to
defend that property which many
people do, individuals in most
homes in the country.

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Most of our chemical plants and
manufacturing plants are
protected that way. If you have
to have an armed car business
falling money around, it's you
that are responsible and not the
government and that's where the
greatest safety comes from.

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So I think today it's more
important than ever to
understand this. And if you look
at the great harm done in the
inner cities, they especially
take the guns away from the poor
in the inner cities.

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And those are the individuals
who are most likely to be killed
by violence because they don't
have a weapon to defend
themselves.

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So if you had to proper respect
for the second amendment, just
because you were poor and lived
in an inner city, you wouldn't
be denied this right to defend
yourself if somebody was coming
into your home.

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So those are mainly external
threats. Do you feel that with
the state of the union as it is
today and being on the verge of
being bankrupt as you say?

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Is it getting dangerously close
to exercising our second
amendment rights against
internal attacks and mainly
against the government?

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There are some in this country
who believe that and are
prepared. I'm not one of them.
I'm working hard to try to
prevent it. It's conceivable.

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So we now have government agents
over 100,000 of them actually
carry guns.

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They can barge into our property
and retirement combination now
with the authority that they've
got and to spoil everything that
we do.

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Coming to our homes without
warrants. I mean, it's a real
mess. And if we have a financial
crisis and there's a breakdown
on the economy, there we're
going to have a lot of violence.

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People will be a lot less
tolerance of the IRS agents and
the FDA and everybody else and
the A agents and the ATF and
when they come around, there's
going to be more violence.

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I believe I'm working to try to
prevent that and devise a
transitional system where we
don't have to do that, but it's
quite possible where it could
come.

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Let me ask you one other issue.
Rovers is weighed, which I think
is also grossly misunderstood.
It seems that there are a number
of rights in discussion here.

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One is you're in a relatable
right of your own body as with
your own right and created by
the given to you by the creator
as well as a pro choice issue.

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That's the pro choice issue and
then there's the right to life.
It seems very complicated. And
in fact, my head is hurting
right now just thinking about
it.

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Particularly you'd be a medical
doctor. It seems like you know
what you're talking about. Help
me through this.

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Well, it is one of the more
difficult issues because it's
unique. If you have a truly
libertarian viewpoint about your
life and you can run your life
as you choose.

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This is pretty easy and I sort
of take that position and I talk
about it all the time.

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It's your life. You can take
your own decisions. If you want
to build your body or your mind
or your soul, you do it. But you
suffer the consequences. You can
come to the government or rob
your neighbor to help me out if
you messed up.

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But all of a sudden this becomes
different with pregnancy. So the
issue to me isn't privacy at
all. I think that's a red
hearing.

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I think the issue is, is there a
live human being that deserves
legal protection within the body
of another person?

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And I've come down on the side
of saying yes, there is a legal
human being that deserves
protection.

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And because I'm very much aware
of my legal responsibilities as
an OB doctor, if I ever get
anything to enter the unborn, I
can be sued because I've entered
a human being.

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If there's an accident, you're
liable. If there's been a
violent crime, you're
responsible and can be hauled in
the court for killing somebody.

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So you've no doubt there's a
live human being that has rights
and inheritance rights or
establish it's time of
conception, not at the time of
birth, a father of an unborn is
still has responsibility through
inheritance laws.

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Now to that unborn child, if
it's a proven child of the
individual. So to me, it's
absolutely illegal person.

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But it's still difficult because
there are difficult terms. You
know, one day after rape is that
the same thing as one day before
birth.

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And the more difficult these
problems are, the smaller units
of government I think should
deal with it. So therefore I
don't want the federal
government involved.

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And robbers who's weighed
happens to be in the trussies
ruling, not only because it
legalized the killing of any
unborn, in any trimester.

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And over road, they over road
all the state laws and said the
state can't do anything to
protect.

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There was a violation of the
concept of the republic and
states rights. At the same time,
they called as a privacy issue
instead of a life issue.

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And they made it so much worse.
So my goal would be to turn this
back to states or get rid of
rovers as weighed.

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And if there is sometimes a
very, very difficult
circumstance that the state has
to deal with that.

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But the Supreme Court literally
dictated medical procedures that
were different in the first
second and the third trimester.

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But they actually legalized the
killing of a viable unborn in
the third trimester. So that's
something that we should even,
even if somebody endorsed
abortion on some sort of

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limitations, they should find
this a bit support to think that
a two or a three or a four pound
infant can be literally just
destroyed.

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And with the argument, it has no
right to live.

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Well, then let me ask it this
way. And I don't think either of
us are qualified to discuss the
female reproductive system
because we don't have one.

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So it's, I find it very hard to
give an opinion on something.
I'm just not schooled on you. Of
course, literally our schooled
on this.

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But as a politician, the right
to your own body as a woman, do
you not have the right to put in
or take out of that body what
you want if I want regardless of
what it is?

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Of course, you have
responsibility.

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I'm with the exception of right.
You have the responsibility of
the consequence of having in a
course. So therefore that is the
decision.

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If you care that argument to its
logical conclusion, I also think
you have the right to your
property at home. Your home is
your castle.

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I don't want any cameras any of
that. Nothing in there. You
know, some parents might kill
their children.

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We don't put cameras in there
because we don't take away
rights of parents because one
out of 14 million are billion
might kill their child.

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We don't remove any their
rights. But if we know there's
some parents in a home just
murdering their children, all of
a sudden this becomes very
important.

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So the sanctity of the home is
does not permit the killing of
the children.

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So I think the analogy is
reasonable to say that yes,
there is a child. It's in the
womb and it deserves some
protection.

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But to say that it deserves done
leads to some very weird things
because if a patient comes to me
and I'm doing abortions, I can
get paid a lot of money to do
the abortion right before birth.

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But if I do that one minute
after birth, I go to prison from
murder.

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And one time there was a case
where the abortions did the
abortion, but the baby was born
alive, so he drowned the baby.

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And he had to go to, he had, I
think he was convicted of a
crime.

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But if he had only killed the
baby sooner, that's why this
partial birth abortion
developed.

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Because you didn't ever want the
baby to be born alive, then
you're a bad guy. But if you can
just kill the baby immediately
before this, this is not
something that should be brushed
off easily.

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But there, to me, there's one
time that I think that it's a
strictly immoral issue.

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The first, you know, in very,
very early pregnancy, you know,
it might be five or six days or
so.

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There's no way you can prove a
crime is committed because you
can't prove pregnancy by
chemically, chemically legally,
or by ultrasound.

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And one of them may not be
pregnant, and so how can you
prove a crime was committed?

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She takes something to make sure
that pregnancy doesn't take.

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And then it becomes strictly
immoral choice.

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And I don't think you can
legislate in that region.

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But you certainly can think more
about what it's like in the
third trimester, right before
birth, whether or not abortion
or done for convenience.

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Let me switch gears, Dr. Ron, to
two things I just like your
input on.

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If, if you're elected president
or perhaps you're already
working on these issues now,
global warming, your stance and
what you think if anything
should be done about it.

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Well, I don't have any answers
for that. I read everything I
can and I'm convinced that if
you get close to where everybody
knows something is so.

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I think there's room for being a
contrary and especially in
economics and in finances,
that's always true.

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When everybody knows what's
going to happen tomorrow, you
can burn.

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You can almost bet on it that
the general information is
wrong.

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So I've read that I think it's
pretty good stuff on both sides
of this argument.

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To be concerned at the same time
not to be overly concerned and
that they're having cycles.

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There's no doubt there's been
cycles in temperature change and
throughout the history of the
Earth.

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And there's proof of that
sometimes the Earth gets cold
and sometimes it gets very warm.

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But I do think that pollution is
a serious problem.

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We should not ignore it.

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It properly writes approach
means that you have no right to
prove anybody's error in water
and we should be cautious.

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I came up with a statistic the
other day that I think is
interesting.

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But if you look, if you were to
see a two-emission emissions,
you might look at who's doing
it.

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There are two-emitting countries
in the world.

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Our Pentagon is 30-fifth in line
of all those countries that burn
oil.

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I think it's supposed to 400,000
barrels of oil a day that our
Pentagon burns for something
bombs endlessly.

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And allowing depleted uranium to
be lying around in the various
countries.

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So that's something I think we
could do something about without
pretending that if there are
some natural weather changes
that occur

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that changes our temperatures
over thousands of years.

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I don't think this is a whole
lot we can do about that.

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And the things that we can do
something about that I'm all
for.

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Excellent.

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Are you familiar with the net
neutrality issue, Dr. Ron?

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Yeah, pretty much, pretty much
so.

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Not in ultimate details, but
just generally so.

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Any comment on that?

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Well, I'm taking a position on,
I'm not for it although a lot of
people in the, in the internet
industry.

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They love what I do except that
position because they think that
it might hurt the market.

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And my argument there is that we
don't need government regulate.

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If you accept the government
regulating in a favorable way on
the internet, then you've
considered the authority to
regulate in a negative way or
even even go into taxation.

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So it's it's difficult, but I
think some of the advantages
some of the providers have have
become about because of
monopolies that they've had in
the past.

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And I would deal with this in a
different way rather than just
regulating some protection.

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A couple of general questions
about your campaign.

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The main one being you've, and
it's funny because I see
mainstream asked this question
all the time.

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I presume because they know the
answer, but there's never any
follow up, which is if you're
not nominated for the Republican
ticket that you will not run as
an independent.

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Which is correct, I presume.

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That's correct.

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Why?

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Is this like a Ralph Nader
situation where it could split
the party and the Democrats who
win by default?

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I haven't thought it through.

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It's probably just personal and
there's a lot of energy that
goes into the essence.

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It's not like I haven't tried
that before.

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You know, I did run as a
libertarian, you know, a while
back and it's really very tough.

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I mean, the whole system is so
biased against an individual
that's independent or a third
party.

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Ross Perode did pretty well, but
he had spent a lot of money, so
unless you have a whole lot of
money.

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Today, at least there's some
recognition that I can get into
the debate and I've made inroads
this way.

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But if I've been doing this
outside of major parties, nobody
would know my name.

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And it's a very, very difficult
to do.

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It's a difficult and I think
that I have to put on my
energies into what I'm doing now
and there's the possibility that
the people really want me to be
president.

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It's going to come about this
way, not by me following up and
trying to do it in an
alternative way.

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The big news about Ron Paul,
Congressman Ron Paul, is that
the internet has clearly
embraced your message, which I
think is logical because the
internet is basically one big
copying propagation machine.

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And when you put something on it
that catches fire or has legs,
it travels very, very quickly.

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That can be a funny video of
someone shooting a bottle rocket
out of his butt or it could be
the message of freedom and the
constitution.

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What are you doing to play into
that form of communication?

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Because it appears to me that
presidential elections, it's
still about who can get the most
money because that means you can
advertise more or more
effectively.

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Do you see it as two separate
places or do you see it as one
and as one influence the other
and what do you, what is your
main strategy for communicating
with the constituency through
online?

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Well, we're doing it all the
time and it's almost sometimes
at the beginning it was in spite
of ourselves because we knew it
was important and we hope we
could tap into it.

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But actually the internet tapped
into our campaign once the
message got out that I was
running and I knew the message
that came to us.

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We got groups just started
growing and now there's over a
thousand of them.

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So it feeds on itself because
they come to us, they volunteer
and it ends up they send this
money as well.

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While we're getting free
advertisement and free support
over the internet, we also get
the funding that will help us do
the ordinary campaign through
television radio.

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That's what we've started to do
and we'd like to say that it was
all because we were so smart and
we were able to harness the
internet.

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But although we knew the
importance of it, I think we
were just really astounded and
how popular the message would be
and how quickly it would spread.

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So I was very impressed with
this.

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May I give you some advice on
that point, Dr. Ron?

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When you're interviewed and when
the mainstream media brings this
up because you know it's like
the internet phenomenon and your
answer is pretty much what you
just said is well you know the
internet kind of found us.

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Could I just make a small
recommendation which is it's not
lying but it's kind of it's it's
a tactic.

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Maybe you could consider saying
yes we've cracked the code of
the internet.

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You don't have to explain how
but that just will put so much
fear in everybody.

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That I'm so frightened of you
because no one has been able to
do that.

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Well that's what some of the
users you know when we when the
when it pulls you know after the
debate they think we have
cracked the code.

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We can we know something they
don't know but if it were just
money in organization the rest
of the characters I'm sure we're
doing the same thing.

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In the course we haven't done it
but I see it's almost like a fun
thing to do that would really
cause them to get a little bit
excited.

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Well yeah I mean yet you have to
kind of you know play along with
the game I think a little bit
which brings me to the
advertising.

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I've actually heard some of your
your radio advertising and what
was interesting to me is that it
was a very different kind of
message than what is propagating
so quickly on the internet it's
very much.

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I'm not like this guy I'm not
like that candidate I voted this
way as opposed to that person
sound so incredibly traditional.

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Who actually does is your media
advisor do you have an
advertising agency that buys the
the time do you have someone who
manages that specifically are
you involved in that process.

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Well we're all involved I'm very
much involved because I've been
in this for a long time and I'm
always afraid if I just turn it
over to a company.

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That they would be too
conventional and I don't want to
lose the message so the last
thing I want them to do is to do
as they we got a appeal to the
Republican base and that means
we have to soften your stand on
the wall or.

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Or stopping your stand of civil
liberties I didn't know way
that's my trademark and I will
not have that so I keep very
close tabs on that but we use
various people in the if the
people in the campaign aren't.

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You know that a professional you
know political people but there
are people who are dedicated for
the philosophy and the pandemic
experience and they help a whole
lot and working on these.

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I found that personally I found
it's much better when someone
else says this guy is great
instead of yourself obviously or
or kind of like a.

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A dark voice announcer guy
something else you just might
want to consider is there's
plenty of people who have I've
seen on YouTube alone I've seen
probably 10,000 different.

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Television or video commercials
I've heard tons of audio
versions that could easily be
used on radio.

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I'm just saying you might want
to consider listening to some of
those messages or have someone
see if there's anything that is
is usable because that message
is sometimes so much stronger
than what I've heard from.

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From the radio commercials just
to just.

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Yeah and I think as to our radio
commercials our song starting
off you know to talk to people
who've never heard my name
before not to talk to people who
know me on the internet and I do
watch those.

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As in those videos on the
internet and some of them are
very emotional I think they're
very powerful.

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But I think as time goes on
we'll get close to that.

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I like to make one other
suggestion that I have a few
more minutes I could take a few
more questions but I'm going to
have to go shortly.

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Sure thank you and I really
appreciate your time so right
now I'll just fire off a few
right now there's a major push
online for November fifth I
don't know if you're familiar
with this.

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There's a and it's just
traveling through the internet
you can't start it or stop at
these things and the idea is we
call it kind of a bum rush the
charts it's been done very
successfully in mainly with
music purchasing and book
purchasing.

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I believe that everyone's going
to start donating on one day
specifically to really make a
big jump.

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I have heard that that is not
necessarily endorsed or even
desired by your campaign do you
want to comment on that.

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Well I know about it I hear
about it and it certainly wasn't
originated in the campaign but I
don't know how anybody could
want to get too far from you
know if somebody wants to raise
a lot of money and have a
surprise and have a media event
that on one particular day that
we raise a huge amount of money.

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I can't see how anybody with
that it's a bad idea.

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Excellent.

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Two more questions nine eleven
conspiracy theories do you buy
any of it Dr. Ron.

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Not really not the kind that I
say well it was all conspired by
our government and and that they
get it for this purpose of
ushering in this war on
terrorism not a believe in that.

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I believe because it's very very
clear evidence that the Neo
Conservatives in the way sort of
welcome the event because they
even wrote about a Pearl Harbor
type event that they might be
able to use to promote their
cause and they and they
certainly have.

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Where where some of the stuff
gets overlapping confused is
that I don't think the nine
eleven commission investigation
was worth a whole lot because I
think it was mainly designed to
cover up mistakes and endless of
government not so much to cover
up or hide a conspiracy or a
plan to do this.

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The whole thing about the
government I think that the
evidence was there that if we
had you know some really sharp
people watching what they and
the information they accumulated
they would have known there was
something very big coming on and
yet they.

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We haven't really arrested or
fired or blamed anybody for the
toe and that this is allowing
nine eleven to attack so I think
those are two different issues.

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So you're saying possible but
definitely not enough
information on the table.

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Well I don't think there's any
information say that the
government planned the event
what I'm saying is that they had
information buried in the
accumulation of all these files
that they didn't pay enough
attention to for instance there
was one FBI agent that.

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The dozens and dozens of time
reported to the series that
somebody was trying to fly
airplanes that not land them and
he was totally ignored.

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I don't think they did that.

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I think I was in happiness
rather than a conspiracy to
allow it to happen.

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Well Dr. Ron you I've said this
before on on my show you you
take all of the boxes that I'm
looking for I wholeheartedly
endorse you and I will be
sending you money today to back
that up and signing your
endorsement form.

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I really appreciate what you're
doing I'm 43 and I'm tired I can
only imagine how tired you are.

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It's a very tiring business
particularly beyond the
spotlight like that and so it's
it's greatly appreciated.

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The final question I have for
you which is extremely important
are you a folder or a scruncher.

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I'm a folder or a scruncher.

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There is a scruncher.

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Yes so when you use toilet paper
do you fold it or do you scrunch
it?

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Well I think I think this is
getting off of the target a
little bit.

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Is there a proper way to do it
Dr. Ron as a medical doctor?

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No I think everybody's
independent minded into each
zone.

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Fantastic.

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Dr. Ron any time you want me to
help you with the network of
independent producers that I can
speak to please feel free to
give me a call.

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I'll be happy to contribute to
the calls.

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Thank you very much Dr. Ron.

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Bye bye.

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Who?

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Why don't we decompress for a
second?

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We'll come back and discuss.

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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Who are you?

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I've been waiting for you, and
I've seen a massive victory

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Are you the best of you ever
after all?

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But nobody knows you've been
waiting for you, baby

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All you've been is all the one
thing you've missed in my life

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From all the way, please

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The storming on me, of America

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The storming on me, of America

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Don't over~)

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[ Music ]

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[ Music ]

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COME ON UP and let it go

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Come on up and let it go

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Go my shoulder kalk

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and stop

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Fight your Pat procedure

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for you

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and fight you

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Come on up and let it go

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[ Music ]

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That I can't go, I can't go

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That's the Dingo Brothers

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Collectively notice to Dingo Pie

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The Dominion of America

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Of course, also brought to you
from the pod save music network

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Links to that song in the show
notes a daily source code dot
com

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So I hope you understood what I
was trying to do

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It was basically get Dr. Ron on
record on the most of the things
that we've talked about

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I didn't go into real debate

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I tried to ask some follow-up
questions

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We're appropriate but I really
wanted him to just speak until
he stopped speaking

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Which I think we kind of
captured

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So one thing I know for sure

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I have to listen to the
interview

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Myself in order to even really
comment on it

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Because I know that there's
things I missed and didn't hear

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Because I was thinking of the
next question

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That's always a bit challenging

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Again, this was what a great
pleasure

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To be able to do this and really
have a conversation

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Not be hassled by a producer
telling me to stop

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Ooming and I just get on with
the next question

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So we talked about second
amendment

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His answer I think was he's
really trying to stop

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The potential bloodshed

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That was interesting

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Rovers is weighed

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Early termination would be a
moral issue

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Since the crime cannot be proven

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Wow strong language there

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And I just jotted down some
notes here

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He felt there was room for a
contrarian view

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He's concerned we should be
concerned

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But not overly

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Net neutrality didn't sound like
he really knew that much about
it

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But he has a pretty clear stance
on

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The fact that any regulation of
the internet

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is not a good thing and he does

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It sounded like he has some form
of a plan

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It's to how he would attack that

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Particularly the telcos and the
monopolies

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Which I think is very
encouraging

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And then if he's not on the
Republican ticket

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Then he won't run it all

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And when I asked why

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I think he said I don't know

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Although he said personal too
much energy

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He's tried it before

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I was quite interesting to hear

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It's like wow

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Someone would actually give up

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But I can understand

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Hey did I get him to laugh

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Like almost like a high school
girl

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About cracking the code

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I really hope he does that

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Wouldn't that be funny?

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Actually he said he said it
would be fun

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He said yeah we've cracked the
code of the internet

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Let's see if that turns up
somewhere

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We talked about the advertising

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He met some valid points there

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And maybe I just gave him an
idea

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That he could use some
alternative creative work

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Maybe I should have mentioned
creative work

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I was hard

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November 5th

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That's what I'm going to

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So I endorse that idea

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Now that I'm going to

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To give it what I think the
maximum of

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$2,300

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I'm going to do it on November
5th

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And I think it's a good idea

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That'll be fun

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Let's see if we can make the
needle move on that one

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9, 11

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I thought he said something

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I wrote this down that the new
conservatives

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In a way

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Welcome the event

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Wow strong mojo there

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And of course huge
disappointment at the end

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Where he would not devolve
whether he is a scruncher

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Or a folder

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But apparently he makes no
difference

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Because you can do with your
body

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What you wish

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Okay, homework once again

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If you haven't seen the
constitution classes

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Do yourself a favor and check
that out

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Because if you didn't already

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Get a better understanding of
this presidential candidate

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You probably will

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By going through that

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And it's important

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If you've got Americans in your
life or in your country

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Then you should know what they
stand for

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And what the rules are

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Anyway thanks to the campaign

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The hundreds and the thousands
of people

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Who helped and put this together

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And I look forward to your
feedback

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And I'm sure this conversation
will continue

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What do we say we meet here for
Fubar?

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Deal

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Hey enjoy your freedom

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Live life with passion

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