WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:08.000 Dromatically reduce ambient noise by up to 85% with Sony's noise-cancelling headphones and 00:08.000 --> 00:13.000 work, home or travel, shut out the noise and really enjoy your tracks. 00:13.000 --> 00:15.000 Get yours at Sony.com slash headphones. 00:15.000 --> 00:19.000 Sony headphones, your music never sounded so good. 00:30.000 --> 00:37.000 I'd like to think of a sign to this journey. 00:37.000 --> 00:40.000 I'm just taking this out of the curry. 00:40.000 --> 00:42.000 Yeah, man. 00:42.000 --> 00:43.000 Delta. 00:43.000 --> 00:44.000 Scarrot. 00:44.000 --> 00:46.000 Charlie. 00:46.000 --> 00:48.000 Six, nine, or seven. 00:48.000 --> 00:50.000 You know, Christmas Eve, this is the government. 00:50.000 --> 00:53.000 We roll out American Heartbreak without a doubt. 00:53.000 --> 00:57.000 This has got to be the best Christmas song ever. 00:57.000 --> 01:03.000 Do you remember that in down the Christmas tree? 01:03.000 --> 04:04.000 [ Music ] 04:04.000 --> 04:08.000 I'm gonna be the world. 04:08.000 --> 04:11.000 I'm gonna be the world. 04:11.000 --> 04:13.000 I don't think I'll be alone. 04:13.000 --> 04:15.000 I'll be alone. 04:15.000 --> 04:18.000 I'll be with my girls. 04:18.000 --> 04:20.000 It's not gonna be too busy now. 04:20.000 --> 04:23.000 The Christmas season really kicks off. 04:23.000 --> 04:25.000 Once you've heard American Heartbreak. 04:25.000 --> 04:29.000 Greatest Christmas song of all time on the Charlie. 04:29.000 --> 04:31.000 American Heartbreak of Parts. 04:31.000 --> 04:32.000 Featuring. 04:32.000 --> 04:34.000 I'm not sure it's very own. 04:34.000 --> 04:35.000 Son of Love. 04:35.000 --> 04:37.000 Michael Butler on this. 04:37.000 --> 04:38.000 Everybody how you doing? 04:38.000 --> 04:39.000 Daily source code. 04:39.000 --> 04:41.000 Six, nine, or seven. 04:41.000 --> 04:43.000 Coming to you from the curry condo once again. 04:43.000 --> 04:45.000 In Northern California. 04:45.000 --> 04:48.000 It is Thursday for y'all. 04:48.000 --> 04:50.000 It's Wednesday night for me. 04:50.000 --> 04:51.000 Wow, it's later than I thought. 04:51.000 --> 04:52.000 It's 11, 30. 04:52.000 --> 04:54.000 I'm feeling much better. 04:54.000 --> 04:56.000 So, yeah, yeah, yeah. 04:56.000 --> 04:58.000 All systems are go. 04:58.000 --> 05:00.000 Stuff starting to function is normal again. 05:00.000 --> 05:01.000 And a really good day. 05:01.000 --> 05:04.000 I spent a lot of time looking at V3. 05:04.000 --> 05:06.000 This is the new version of, of Potcha. 05:06.000 --> 05:08.000 I'm not gonna say the new version of the site because it's, 05:08.000 --> 05:11.000 it's a new version of Potcha, really. 05:11.000 --> 05:14.000 Damn, there's some cool stuff. 05:14.000 --> 05:19.000 I'm like, this, I couldn't even start to tell you what it is. 05:19.000 --> 05:21.000 But it's something you'll want to use. 05:21.000 --> 05:23.000 It's not, it's not the site. 05:23.000 --> 05:25.000 Does that make any sense? 05:25.000 --> 05:29.000 Chris McIntyre is gonna do a screencast for the, 05:29.000 --> 05:31.000 I think for the Potcha producers. 05:31.000 --> 05:33.000 So then they can start saying how much they love it, 05:33.000 --> 05:36.000 but they won't be able to explain it either. 05:36.000 --> 05:39.000 Oh boy, I was just thinking actually doing that song. 05:39.000 --> 05:41.000 I was like, wow, you know, it's a real bummer 05:41.000 --> 05:43.000 that neither Patricia or Christina. 05:43.000 --> 05:45.000 I don't think they ever listened to the show. 05:45.000 --> 05:47.000 I know she would like the, the Butler song. 05:47.000 --> 05:49.000 I know she likes American Heartbreak. 05:49.000 --> 05:51.000 I know that, I know she likes Michael. 05:51.000 --> 05:52.000 And Martina. 05:52.000 --> 05:53.000 Do you hear a hum somewhere? 05:53.000 --> 05:54.000 I'm hearing something. 05:54.000 --> 05:55.000 Hold on. 05:55.000 --> 05:56.000 Oh my god, that should be better. 05:56.000 --> 05:58.000 Yeah, much better. 05:58.000 --> 06:01.000 And I'm just thinking about, you know, 06:01.000 --> 06:05.000 I, I tell so much about what's going on and what I'm thinking 06:05.000 --> 06:07.000 on the show. 06:07.000 --> 06:09.000 And I wonder, do I tell them? 06:09.000 --> 06:12.000 Do I forget to tell them stuff that I'm thinking sometimes 06:12.000 --> 06:15.000 because I think I've already told them or told someone. 06:15.000 --> 06:17.000 And I guess I've told you guys. 06:17.000 --> 06:20.000 Anyway, some of the things you gotta think about. 06:20.000 --> 06:22.000 You know, for the past, 06:22.000 --> 06:25.000 I gotta say eight or nine months. 06:25.000 --> 06:30.000 I've been receiving emails about the show called The Plugcast. 06:30.000 --> 06:33.000 And I get asked to do interviews a lot. 06:33.000 --> 06:36.000 I pretty much decline every single one. 06:36.000 --> 06:38.000 And usually mainstream interviews. 06:38.000 --> 06:40.000 I don't even answer anymore. 06:40.000 --> 06:41.000 I'm just not interested. 06:41.000 --> 06:44.000 And mainly I don't do them because I know that my schedule 06:44.000 --> 06:45.000 is going to get messed up. 06:45.000 --> 06:47.000 I'm going to have to postpone to lay. 06:47.000 --> 06:48.000 I hate that. 06:48.000 --> 06:49.000 I really hate it. 06:49.000 --> 06:50.000 So I'd rather just say no, sorry. 06:50.000 --> 06:52.000 I can't because I'm literally just too busy. 06:52.000 --> 06:53.000 I am busy. 06:53.000 --> 06:54.000 Look at it. 06:54.000 --> 06:55.000 It's 11.30 in doing my show. 06:55.000 --> 06:57.000 And it's not like I've been hanging out. 06:57.000 --> 07:02.000 But I, I, when, so I think it's, 07:02.000 --> 07:04.000 I forget the guy's name. 07:04.000 --> 07:06.000 Anyway, the plugcast. 07:06.000 --> 07:09.000 He, he had his idea of, 07:09.000 --> 07:13.000 I don't know if it's the format for the show or whatever. 07:13.000 --> 07:15.000 Whatever the thought behind it was, 07:15.000 --> 07:18.000 you know, it's like why don't I get a whole bunch of people 07:18.000 --> 07:21.000 to ask Adam to come on the show 07:21.000 --> 07:24.000 and have other podcasters ask him. 07:24.000 --> 07:28.000 You know, podcasters who I presume have appeared on the plugcast. 07:28.000 --> 07:30.000 And you know, and the plug, I don't want to plug anything. 07:30.000 --> 07:32.000 First of all, I have nothing to plug. 07:33.000 --> 07:35.000 And I really have nothing to say. 07:35.000 --> 07:37.000 And I really don't have the time. 07:37.000 --> 07:40.000 You know, or I'm sure I'll schedule the time. 07:40.000 --> 07:42.000 And then, you know, oh, sorry. 07:42.000 --> 07:44.000 Different time zone. 07:44.000 --> 07:45.000 Different continent. 07:45.000 --> 07:46.000 Yeah, sorry. 07:46.000 --> 07:47.000 Not going to work out. 07:47.000 --> 07:48.000 It sucks. 07:48.000 --> 07:50.000 I, I hate that out of everything. 07:50.000 --> 07:51.000 That's why I usually say no. 07:51.000 --> 07:54.000 I'm getting pretty close to saying yes to the plugcast. 07:54.000 --> 07:57.000 After Zack sent in his version of an invitation 07:57.000 --> 07:59.000 for me to go on the show. 07:59.000 --> 08:01.000 Yeah, I'm super excited about it. 08:01.000 --> 08:05.000 You know, it's interesting about him. 08:05.000 --> 08:06.000 Nothing. 08:06.000 --> 08:07.000 What? 08:07.000 --> 08:09.000 Well, you tell me he's an asshole for me. 08:09.000 --> 08:10.000 No, from what he needs to. 08:10.000 --> 08:11.000 Like, he gives a shit. 08:11.000 --> 08:12.000 Well, I love a lot of people. 08:12.000 --> 08:15.000 Actually, because that's what my job entails is making sure 08:15.000 --> 08:16.000 people care what he has to say. 08:16.000 --> 08:18.000 I'm interviewing him. 08:18.000 --> 08:19.000 Wait, wait a minute. 08:19.000 --> 08:22.000 Sounds like he's a she who needs to interview me. 08:22.000 --> 08:23.000 Well, if I'd known that. 08:23.000 --> 08:24.000 It's just me. 08:24.000 --> 08:25.000 Maybe I just don't give a shit. 08:25.000 --> 08:26.000 I don't think you're an asshole. 08:26.000 --> 08:27.000 I'm Korean. 08:27.000 --> 08:29.000 I do give a shit. 08:29.000 --> 08:31.000 Show some holiday spirit, Adam. 08:31.000 --> 08:33.000 Through a shameless plugcast interview. 08:33.000 --> 08:35.000 It's a doll that keeps dropping like that. 08:35.000 --> 08:36.000 I probably will have to. 08:36.000 --> 08:38.000 If you want to stay with it and stay your cool guy, 08:38.000 --> 08:39.000 you should go. 08:39.000 --> 08:40.000 You're so right, though. 08:40.000 --> 08:42.000 Yeah, do something with the young guys. 08:42.000 --> 08:43.000 Yeah. 08:43.000 --> 08:44.000 And that will keep you young. 08:44.000 --> 08:46.000 An example of some questions in my experience. 08:46.000 --> 08:49.000 Do your hobbies are drinking, smoking weed, 08:49.000 --> 08:51.000 and all types of ill shit. 08:51.000 --> 08:52.000 I like it very much. 08:52.000 --> 08:53.000 Just kidding, Adam. 08:53.000 --> 08:55.000 I'll be rain for your call. 08:55.000 --> 08:56.000 We still does that. 08:56.000 --> 08:58.000 And now you want to give me the freak out. 08:59.000 --> 09:02.000 Who is the plugcast? 09:02.000 --> 09:03.000 Is it Zach? 09:03.000 --> 09:04.000 Is it who sent this? 09:04.000 --> 09:06.000 Or is it who's the girl? 09:06.000 --> 09:09.000 And who's the guy who wants to tell me I'm an asshole? 09:09.000 --> 09:10.000 I don't know. 09:10.000 --> 09:11.000 I'm confused. 09:11.000 --> 09:12.000 So many mixed singles. 09:12.000 --> 09:13.000 Now I don't know what to do. 09:13.000 --> 09:17.000 Ah, please help me make this terribly tough decision. 09:17.000 --> 09:19.000 Hey, this came in a couple days ago. 09:19.000 --> 09:23.000 It kind of got stuck in a pile of doo-doo in Gmail. 09:23.000 --> 09:27.000 But my sister checks in from from the hills of Florence. 09:27.000 --> 09:28.000 Italy. 09:28.000 --> 09:30.000 And as you know, she's a Nokia fiend like myself. 09:30.000 --> 09:33.000 She, uh, she too has the E61 eye. 09:33.000 --> 09:35.000 And, uh, she really uses this thing. 09:35.000 --> 09:38.000 She uses the VoIP, uh, I think the Gizmo client. 09:38.000 --> 09:39.000 No, wait a minute. 09:39.000 --> 09:42.000 She uses, um, eeeeee. 09:42.000 --> 09:44.000 Why am I forgetting? 09:44.000 --> 09:47.000 Uh, I don't know. 09:47.000 --> 09:51.000 She uses one of those VoIP clients that kind of integrates with the, with the phone book. 09:51.000 --> 09:56.000 And, and when we're on vacation on, uh, uh, fire island. 09:56.000 --> 09:57.000 Is it fire island? 09:57.000 --> 09:59.000 Can you remember? 09:59.000 --> 10:00.000 August. 10:00.000 --> 10:03.000 We were in, uh, an island somewhere in New York. 10:03.000 --> 10:05.000 I think it was fire island. 10:05.000 --> 10:09.000 Um, I saw her use it consistently on the Wi-Fi in the house that we'd rented. 10:09.000 --> 10:10.000 Okay. 10:10.000 --> 10:12.000 So you're going to love this story. 10:12.000 --> 10:13.000 Hi, Adam. 10:13.000 --> 10:15.000 Sister calling in from Florence, Italy. 10:15.000 --> 10:18.000 Um, I just finished listening to your Fuber Friday. 10:18.000 --> 10:24.000 And actually was very, very fortunate that I was able to do so on my E61 eye. 10:25.000 --> 10:29.000 Um, this is all, I mean, theme with, uh, your listener who was asking about the, uh, 10:29.000 --> 10:31.000 what was it the N95 or the iPhone. 10:31.000 --> 10:33.000 And he wanted to have more information. 10:33.000 --> 10:37.000 Well, I've got to tell him and, and, and everybody, you want an okay. 10:37.000 --> 10:41.000 If you're any, if you're anything like me, you want an okay. 10:41.000 --> 10:46.000 And I just had another experience that just confirmed that, um, last night, I was 10:46.000 --> 10:51.000 listening to, uh, your, uh, your, uh, your Wednesday episode. 10:51.000 --> 10:54.000 And, uh, some listener called in and I was just, uh, 10:54.000 --> 10:57.000 I wanted to pump up the volume a bit because I couldn't hear so well. 10:57.000 --> 11:00.000 Uh, because I don't wait the, uh, the headphones. 11:00.000 --> 11:03.000 Well, because, uh, I didn't forgot to mention I was in the tub. 11:03.000 --> 11:05.000 And so you can feel where this is going. 11:05.000 --> 11:06.000 Hold on a second. 11:06.000 --> 11:07.000 I just got a visual. 11:07.000 --> 11:09.000 I really didn't need to have realo. 11:09.000 --> 11:14.000 So I picked up the phone and it slipped and it went to the tub. 11:14.000 --> 11:18.000 And I also found out why the bathtub is worse than the toilet. 11:18.000 --> 11:22.000 Because if you have a bowl bath, like I do, you can't find it better. 11:22.000 --> 11:24.000 Oh, let me tell you. 11:24.000 --> 11:27.000 It wasn't easy for me to find my iPhone when it slipped into the toilet, 11:27.000 --> 11:28.000 pre-flush either. 11:28.000 --> 11:29.000 Okay. 11:29.000 --> 11:32.000 So, you know, and, and, and there was also obstruction going on. 11:32.000 --> 11:34.000 Find the phone. 11:34.000 --> 11:40.000 Anyway, so I lost a few extra precious seconds there with my Nokia in the water. 11:40.000 --> 11:43.000 But, uh, I finally found it. 11:43.000 --> 11:47.000 I did the usual blow drying thing, opened it up. 11:47.000 --> 11:50.000 You know, all that's good stuff that you can't do with an iPhone. 11:50.000 --> 11:51.000 Take the battery out. 11:51.000 --> 11:52.000 Take the battery out. 11:52.000 --> 11:54.000 I'm the radiator in the morning and I work like a charm. 11:54.000 --> 12:00.000 So I just wanted to share this wonderful experience and, uh, Nokia. 12:00.000 --> 12:01.000 That's it. 12:01.000 --> 12:02.000 Okay. 12:02.000 --> 12:03.000 Have a nice day. 12:03.000 --> 12:04.000 Bye. 12:04.000 --> 12:05.000 I don't know. 12:05.000 --> 12:06.000 Wait, yo. 12:06.000 --> 12:07.000 Yo. 12:09.000 --> 12:13.000 Well, I feel really bad, but I'm, of course, extremely happy that it came back to life. 12:13.000 --> 12:16.000 Uh, your connection didn't sound all about hot though. 12:16.000 --> 12:17.000 Were you called? 12:17.000 --> 12:19.000 Were you actually calling on the E61? 12:19.000 --> 12:22.000 Because it sounded a little bit muddled. 12:22.000 --> 12:25.000 It sounded like there was some bubbles still left in there. 12:25.000 --> 12:28.000 Oh, man, that's such a horrible feeling when that happens. 12:28.000 --> 12:30.000 Oh, that sucks so bad. 12:30.000 --> 12:31.000 But it is true. 12:31.000 --> 12:33.000 You know, you, you open that sucker up. 12:33.000 --> 12:34.000 You rip the battery out. 12:34.000 --> 12:35.000 You start drying it. 12:35.000 --> 12:38.000 It'll just come back to life like magic. 12:38.000 --> 12:40.000 And I really do love it. 12:40.000 --> 12:42.000 They candy man, dude. 12:42.000 --> 12:44.000 You should be hookin' my sister up. 12:44.000 --> 12:45.000 Listen, that commercial. 12:45.000 --> 12:47.000 Well, hey, hey. 12:47.000 --> 12:50.000 By the way, she did not end with the obligatory. 12:50.000 --> 12:51.000 I love you. 12:51.000 --> 12:54.000 Yeah, that's a little bit disappointing. 12:54.000 --> 12:55.000 Hey, Adam. 12:55.000 --> 12:59.000 This is Zach from Vegas and fuck you, Adam Curry.com. 12:59.000 --> 13:01.000 I'm listening to episode 695 right now. 13:01.000 --> 13:07.000 And there's a guy Eric from Portland who sent in a message saying that he was tired of everybody 13:07.000 --> 13:10.000 saying fuck you, Adam Curry at the end of their message. 13:10.000 --> 13:13.000 And that he wants everybody to say, I love you, Adam Curry. 13:13.000 --> 13:15.000 And you agreed? 13:15.000 --> 13:17.000 Well, I got to tell you something. 13:17.000 --> 13:18.000 Yeah. 13:18.000 --> 13:19.000 I agree with him too. 13:19.000 --> 13:23.000 I'm getting tired of saying fuck you, Adam. 13:23.000 --> 13:26.000 I didn't like it to begin with. 13:26.000 --> 13:29.000 It, that maybe that's why I was angry. 13:29.000 --> 13:31.000 Because everybody kept saying fuck you. 13:31.000 --> 13:36.000 And I knew deep down inside that I really did love you, Adam. 13:36.000 --> 13:41.000 You're the first man crushed I've ever had. 13:41.000 --> 13:44.000 I just, I don't know what I would do without you. 13:44.000 --> 13:45.000 Oh, baby. 13:45.000 --> 13:49.000 And all those times that you've been driven out of me that I missed the daily source code. 13:49.000 --> 13:52.000 I'd take it out on everybody else. 13:52.000 --> 13:53.000 Oh, no. 13:53.000 --> 13:54.000 Small animals. 13:54.000 --> 13:56.000 For everyone. 13:56.000 --> 13:58.000 My parents, my girlfriend. 13:58.000 --> 14:02.000 Everybody and anything I could possibly think of. 14:02.000 --> 14:05.000 So Adam, I didn't mean to hurt you. 14:05.000 --> 14:06.000 It's okay, man. 14:06.000 --> 14:07.000 I really do love you, Adam. 14:07.000 --> 14:08.000 I know, I love you. 14:08.000 --> 14:09.000 I really do. 14:09.000 --> 14:10.000 Oh, my God. 14:10.000 --> 14:11.000 Okay. 14:11.000 --> 14:12.000 I'm in my car. 14:12.000 --> 14:13.000 Calm down. 14:13.000 --> 14:14.000 Oh, I'm down. 14:14.000 --> 14:15.000 Okay. 14:15.000 --> 14:16.000 I got to get us together. 14:16.000 --> 14:17.000 Yeah. 14:17.000 --> 14:18.000 Okay. 14:18.000 --> 14:19.000 All right. 14:19.000 --> 14:20.000 I'm getting rid of fuck you, Adam, peri.com. 14:20.000 --> 14:21.000 Oh. 14:21.000 --> 14:25.000 And I'm going to start the, I love you, Adam, peri. 14:25.000 --> 14:26.000 Good. 14:26.000 --> 14:29.000 I really love you, Adam. 14:29.000 --> 14:31.000 All right. 14:35.000 --> 14:37.000 Okay. 14:37.000 --> 14:38.000 Oh, God. 14:38.000 --> 14:39.000 I can't see. 14:40.000 --> 14:41.000 Okay. 14:41.000 --> 14:42.000 All right, Adam. 14:42.000 --> 14:43.000 I love you. 14:43.000 --> 14:45.000 I love you so much. 14:45.000 --> 14:48.000 If you ever get divorced from Patricia, I will, 14:48.000 --> 14:50.000 I will, I'll move to England. 14:50.000 --> 14:51.000 You'll be my best. 14:51.000 --> 14:52.000 I'll marry you. 14:52.000 --> 14:53.000 We'll have lots of gay happiness. 14:53.000 --> 14:54.000 Love you. 14:54.000 --> 14:55.000 Okay. 14:55.000 --> 14:56.000 I love you, Adam. 14:56.000 --> 14:57.000 I love you, too. 14:57.000 --> 14:58.000 Bye. 14:58.000 --> 14:59.000 Bye. 14:59.000 --> 15:00.000 Hey, very good job. 15:00.000 --> 15:02.000 The Academy Award winner. 15:02.000 --> 15:04.000 No doubt about it. 15:04.000 --> 15:05.000 I gotta tell you. 15:05.000 --> 15:07.000 I feel a lot better now that we've changed it all around. 15:08.000 --> 15:10.000 And you guys seem to be having fun with it. 15:10.000 --> 15:13.000 And it really has changed the comments once again. 15:13.000 --> 15:16.000 You know, I do this just to see the results and, you know, 15:16.000 --> 15:18.000 Vulcan mind trickery. 15:18.000 --> 15:21.000 And it's amazing. 15:21.000 --> 15:24.000 Uh, once I think we've now taken the quality of the comments, 15:24.000 --> 15:27.000 yet up one more level. 15:27.000 --> 15:30.000 You can just hit the, the old Gmail box here. 15:30.000 --> 15:31.000 Let me see it. 15:31.000 --> 15:34.000 We've got, uh, 15:35.000 --> 15:36.000 This was a nice one. 15:36.000 --> 15:39.000 Uh, from Susie Tyler. 15:39.000 --> 15:41.000 Carmen Tyler's mom. 15:41.000 --> 15:46.000 And she has some suggestions on how I can stay in sync with two different 15:46.000 --> 15:48.000 time zones by setting two different clocks. 15:48.000 --> 15:50.000 Yeah, I don't really have a problem with that. 15:50.000 --> 15:53.000 It's other people who have a problem with keeping track of my time zone. 15:53.000 --> 15:56.000 Maybe I should have, uh, 15:56.000 --> 16:00.000 and maybe I should, that should be my status message on my I am, you know, 16:00.000 --> 16:03.000 I am in the San Francisco time zone. 16:03.000 --> 16:05.000 Maybe some of you are, 16:05.000 --> 16:07.000 I've been in the San Francisco time zone. 16:07.000 --> 16:09.000 And, um, 16:09.000 --> 16:11.000 And uh, Susie ends up here. 16:11.000 --> 16:13.000 You don't have to end up having your TV on, 16:13.000 --> 16:15.000 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, 16:15.000 --> 16:18.000 uh, uh, don't you just love having someone trying to mother you, 16:18.000 --> 16:20.000 is what she says to me. 16:20.000 --> 16:21.000 It could be worse. 16:21.000 --> 16:23.000 I could be mother and lawing you. 16:23.000 --> 16:25.000 Hmm. 16:25.000 --> 16:27.000 I don't think that's worse. 16:27.000 --> 16:29.000 As you know, that would mean I would be tasting the sweet nectar of your 16:29.000 --> 16:30.000 lovely daughter. 16:30.000 --> 16:32.000 Uh, uh, take that visual. 16:32.000 --> 16:48.400 visual. Um, let me see. Man, what did you guys send me? Is anything good? I'm sorry for 16:48.400 --> 16:53.840 I, you know, I do this and then I realize that I'm actually not saying anything. Oh, 16:53.840 --> 16:57.040 here's something about I've been looking for Iranians to get on the show. This is a good one. 16:57.040 --> 17:02.240 Billy Waters. Adam, uh, I know some Iranians who fled Iran and now live in my country. 17:02.240 --> 17:07.600 Iranians are gregarious, jolly, normal, noisy, pushy, nosy, just like everyone else everywhere 17:07.600 --> 17:13.200 in the world. I was knocked flat by their openness and they have, uh, and they have some lunatics, 17:13.200 --> 17:18.640 though, who mix religion with politics running the country. If you want, I can get you the number of 17:18.640 --> 17:22.960 one who I'm sure would be willing to talk to you. I also know a guy who recently cycled the 17:22.960 --> 17:29.520 bike from Ireland to China through Iran and it's only worry was being fed to death. He might be 17:29.520 --> 17:35.280 wanting to talk to. Let me know if you want to hook up. Yeah, um, can you get me a female Iranian, 17:35.280 --> 17:44.640 please? About a 5.10. Yeah, man, absolutely. Uh, I'd love to. That's what I asked for. I'd love 17:44.640 --> 17:48.800 to speak to someone who's from, I'd love to speak to actually someone who's in Iran. They can make 17:48.800 --> 17:52.960 phone calls, can't they? I mean, they've got, they have GSM technology. Can they call, can they call 17:52.960 --> 17:57.520 the United States? Or can they call certainly they can call the United Kingdom? I mean, 17:58.400 --> 18:03.120 I can't imagine that that country is completely isolated. I know they have internet. I know 18:03.120 --> 18:10.160 they have bloggers. I know this. Gosh, so it's this one girl I met in Khan and, and I've forgotten 18:10.160 --> 18:18.480 her name. I can't, um, I gotta find out who she was. She was the personal secretary of some 18:18.480 --> 18:24.560 advertising agency Bigwig and she was from Iran and we were talking for like an hour and, uh, 18:24.560 --> 18:28.880 she was telling me all this stuff about how young people are, you know, how metropolitan it is and 18:28.880 --> 18:33.920 how they, how they, how they're into, I mean, she gave me some, uh, some blogs to, uh, I, I, I have 18:33.920 --> 18:39.040 the piece of paper with a blog to look at or I had it. I don't have it anymore. I don't, I don't 18:39.040 --> 18:43.680 remember her name. Uh, it's driving me crazy, but I know she could make a hook up. Shit, she would have been 18:43.760 --> 18:51.680 great. Let's just try and find that. Hey, this is, uh, you know, going on to the, uh, the 18:51.680 --> 18:57.200 Eisenhower quote that got a lot of response, uh, from the other day about the military industrial 18:57.200 --> 19:03.520 complex, uh, Dave from New York said that you should check this quote out. I looked for an audio 19:03.520 --> 19:08.320 version of it. Couldn't find it. I probably looked about 15, 20 minutes. So, and there was nothing, 19:08.400 --> 19:14.240 uh, no video either, but I'll just read it to you. This is from 1954, uh, President Dwight D. Eisenhower 19:15.040 --> 19:21.680 should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment, uh, unemployment 19:21.680 --> 19:27.120 insurance, shit. Let me start again because I want to sound presidential. Should any political 19:27.120 --> 19:32.560 party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance and eliminate labor laws and farm 19:32.640 --> 19:38.640 programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny 19:38.640 --> 19:44.480 splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil 19:44.480 --> 19:52.160 millionaires and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible 19:52.160 --> 19:58.880 and they are stupid. How about their apples? This guy Dwight, you know, there must be a book about 19:58.960 --> 20:05.520 Dwight Eisenhower. I don't think I've ever read a book about him. I know apparently extremely 20:05.520 --> 20:10.960 little about the man, but I'm in very impressed. He's like the Nostradamus of America. And he's 20:10.960 --> 20:17.920 been predicting shit that is coming true in my lifetime. We cannot remain ignorant to this. 20:19.280 --> 20:28.640 We cannot. I asked for a little more in depth explanation of Ron Paul stance on property rights 20:28.640 --> 20:34.560 that has a few people, not quite up in arms, but disappointed or confused. And we've got a response. 20:34.560 --> 20:40.560 Adam, Andy here from Portland, we're going to respond to your question about the proper 20:40.560 --> 20:46.960 rights issue. If you guys are on ball, there's campaign and saying he's a strict whatever 20:47.600 --> 20:53.040 interpretation. Constitution. Constitution of the Constitution. And the problem I have with it is simply 20:53.040 --> 20:58.480 that it's an over-stimplification. If that can be possible. I know that the Constitution is 20:58.480 --> 21:05.360 mainly focused on property rights. Yeah, I think that Dwight Eisenhower also said, keep it simple 21:05.360 --> 21:11.120 stupid. That was him, wasn't it? I know that the Constitution is mainly focused on property rights. 21:11.120 --> 21:18.560 It's a very short document. It's very short. Yes. And I think that easy to remember. 21:18.800 --> 21:23.280 Society, we have going on here. There's a bit more context than that. And I feel like the 21:23.280 --> 21:28.080 government, the federal government and the state government's roles in our lives is to support us 21:28.480 --> 21:35.680 and protect us. Do protect us? To look out for us, to support us is not quite the right 21:36.320 --> 21:43.920 phraseology. And help us out. We pay them. They should do what we want. And anyway, 21:44.800 --> 21:51.280 it's a more complicated issue. I think they're just a strict property rights interpretation to 21:51.280 --> 21:56.160 me have there. And that's about to get. Thanks for including me in your conversation. 21:56.160 --> 22:01.200 I really enjoy your show. So, all right. Okay. So, that actually didn't tell me anything. 22:02.080 --> 22:08.800 I don't understand the issue. I maybe I got the wrong, maybe I got the wrong comment. Am I just an 22:08.800 --> 22:12.240 idiot? Oh, I'm on a second. Well, please don't answer that. Okay. 22:15.840 --> 22:20.320 No, crap. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what's gone wrong. I heard a couple other people 22:20.320 --> 22:28.240 try and call in and explain it. I think it has to do with the government taking your land. 22:29.440 --> 22:34.400 You have to understand at this point in time, you do not own the land that your house stands on. 22:35.120 --> 22:41.840 No where except, hmmm. Was I going to say Texas again? I think it's Texas. 22:41.840 --> 22:46.720 I'll have to go back and look at the constitution lessons that I posted on curry.com. I don't know 22:46.720 --> 22:52.880 a couple months ago. You'll learn all about it there. Your car is not yours. It belongs to the 22:52.880 --> 22:57.840 government. Okay. You do not hold the title to your car. You have a certificate of title. 22:58.640 --> 23:03.200 You do not own the land that your house stands on. The government owns it. That's why they tax 23:03.280 --> 23:11.520 you on it for using it. That in itself is unconstitutional. Anya. 23:13.360 --> 23:19.440 This is a beautiful comment that came in. Hey Adam, touch here. Just got done listening to DSE 23:20.560 --> 23:27.360 six nine six and just a few comments with the pizza hut and Burger King being on the military 23:28.320 --> 23:33.280 Yeah, so this is part of my my thoughts about the military industrial complex and how 23:35.040 --> 23:40.640 our tax dollars for the war against terror are being fed into mainly corporate America. 23:41.200 --> 23:46.080 And that's where all this money is going. It's not just to put our boys and girls into the 23:46.080 --> 23:54.880 sand to throw hot lead back and forth with an unknown enemy. Now it's to pump up revenues of these 23:54.960 --> 24:02.240 companies by giving them business. And so yeah, Burger King Pizza Hut right there in Bosnia and Iraq 24:02.240 --> 24:09.040 feeding our troops. I was in the army for 12 years and okay first of all. Thank you for your service. 24:09.040 --> 24:13.920 And I don't mean that like those bullshit politicians when they say it on sea span. I really 24:13.920 --> 24:20.000 fucking mean it. A lot of the fuel for you know you've been in the field two weeks and Burger King 24:20.000 --> 24:27.840 and Pizza Hut. That's a fucking taste at home. Okay, yeah, you know, but if it was a look, if it was 24:28.880 --> 24:38.480 apple pie, dude, that's shit'll kill you. That's more dangerous than terror itself. So I understand. 24:38.480 --> 24:44.720 I really do understand. But you know, sure, you know, there has to be a limit to this. 24:44.800 --> 24:49.840 Maybe only one or the other. It doesn't have to be both, you know. That's that's my point. 24:49.840 --> 24:58.800 War is ugly. And a war zone is ugly. And it just goes beyond the imagination as to what's 24:58.800 --> 25:04.720 being put into this war. You know, so much money is being spent on so many things. 25:06.400 --> 25:10.400 Ah, it's too late in the week for me to get into this. All right, I'm sorry. Oh, food. 25:11.280 --> 25:18.560 And well, oh, yeah, there's a song I think you should play on the DSC by a band called Valorant, 25:18.560 --> 25:25.200 or Valorant, whichever way you pronounce it. It's spelled V-A-L-E-R-I-A-M and it's children of the 25:25.200 --> 25:32.000 menicide deals with what you're talking about about corporations taking over our world, our mind, 25:32.000 --> 25:39.600 everything. And just a suggestion on the Ron Paul thing. Every site I go to, whether if you see 25:39.600 --> 25:49.600 N-N-N-N-B-C-A-B-C-Fox, Google, Yahoo, I search for Ron Paul. Now, just think if you had all 100,000 people 25:50.320 --> 25:55.360 always searching for that, it would go to the top of the search end, maybe get a little publicity. 25:55.360 --> 26:01.840 Anyway, that's just my two cents. And, uh, oh yeah, fuck, no, of, whatever. Yeah. 26:03.840 --> 26:07.600 All right, man. Thanks for the search engine optimization tip. That helps. 26:09.760 --> 26:13.760 Sounds pretty good. I haven't actually listened to it, but I'll just take your recommendation 26:13.760 --> 26:20.160 because you have done your service, my friend. Valorant, I guess. Children of the men's side. 26:21.250 --> 29:13.600 [ Music ] 29:13.600 --> 29:15.600 We're the children of the men's side. 29:15.600 --> 29:19.600 We're the children of the men's side. 29:19.600 --> 29:29.260 Yeah, okay, so let's not say we don't learn anything here on the Chuck. 29:29.260 --> 29:35.480 Menticide, the undermining or destruction of a person's mind or will, especially by systematic 29:35.480 --> 29:42.040 means, such as mental and physical torture, extensive interrogation, suggestion, training 29:42.040 --> 29:45.400 and narcotics or brainwashing. 29:45.400 --> 29:46.400 Menticide. 29:46.400 --> 29:48.840 I like it. 29:48.840 --> 29:52.600 By the way, that sounds like an episode of the Daily Source Code, doesn't it? 29:52.600 --> 29:53.600 Menticide. 29:53.600 --> 29:54.600 Good word. 29:54.600 --> 29:55.600 I'm going to be using that one a lot. 29:55.600 --> 29:57.800 Welcome to the Menticide. 29:57.800 --> 29:59.400 Welcome to the Menticide. 29:59.400 --> 30:00.400 Hmm. 30:00.400 --> 30:02.400 Yeah, sounds good. 30:02.400 --> 30:03.400 Nice. 30:03.400 --> 30:05.680 Let me see another beautiful email. 30:05.680 --> 30:09.360 Peter Grace, Adam, your show's six nine or five was one of the finest shows I've heard 30:09.360 --> 30:10.360 you do. 30:10.360 --> 30:11.960 Man, thank you so much. 30:11.960 --> 30:15.920 I gotta tell you, when someone says that to me, that means a lot. 30:15.920 --> 30:20.320 A comment, though, on boycotting or striking out against the military industrial complex, 30:20.320 --> 30:26.520 probably more accurately called the military industrial financial managed healthcare complex. 30:26.520 --> 30:28.480 Welcome to the Menticide. 30:28.480 --> 30:30.760 Most of us are wage slaves. 30:30.760 --> 30:36.120 I have a family, two mortgages, no hope for my future, but hope for my kids. 30:36.120 --> 30:41.320 I'll encourage my kids to make a difference, but becoming homeless doesn't work towards 30:41.320 --> 30:42.320 that. 30:42.320 --> 30:45.000 I hope to make a difference by investing and voting. 30:45.000 --> 30:48.320 I'm voting Ron Paul and I encourage others to do it, too. 30:48.320 --> 30:53.400 I've put a lawn sign for Ron Paul on my lawn in addition to donating to his campaign. 30:53.400 --> 30:55.200 Be well. 30:55.200 --> 31:01.080 Peter, first of all, thank you again for the kind words. 31:01.080 --> 31:06.320 Second of all, here's my philosophy. 31:06.320 --> 31:09.760 You're never in trouble if you're out of money. 31:09.760 --> 31:15.200 You're only in trouble if you're out of ideas, because this is the country of ideas. 31:15.200 --> 31:24.520 I understand, I understand, you know, your situation is fucked up, food barred for sure. 31:24.520 --> 31:27.200 But I do have some ideas. 31:27.200 --> 31:33.240 In fact, I have a really, really good idea how we can get ourselves, how we can break 31:33.240 --> 31:34.640 free from the Menticide. 31:34.640 --> 31:36.120 Oh God, I love this word. 31:37.080 --> 31:41.520 I'll only play this one other comment, which plays right into this, and then I'll give 31:41.520 --> 31:45.760 you my idea, which came to me late this afternoon at the office, while I was a perusing 31:45.760 --> 31:48.160 a suggestion to look at something on the web. 31:48.160 --> 31:49.160 Listen to this first. 31:49.160 --> 31:52.160 Adam Gary, Chris Keller, I'm a town band of Ania. 31:52.160 --> 31:56.200 I have a little story for you, so it'll metaphor or whatever you want to call it. 31:56.200 --> 31:58.200 There's a bank robbery. 31:58.200 --> 32:02.560 The robber said, all right, everybody put their hands up. 32:02.560 --> 32:07.320 One of the host you said, let's bum muslim, he can't get us all. 32:07.320 --> 32:13.160 You're the one to why no one does anything, or there's a reason no one does anything. 32:13.160 --> 32:17.800 So, right, he can't get you all, he's got limited bullets, he's got limited time, 32:17.800 --> 32:19.280 he's got limited motion. 32:19.280 --> 32:25.080 But he's going to shoot, so he's going to get some of you. 32:25.080 --> 32:30.480 And there's no way to tell who it is, he's going to get, so no one moves, because no one 32:30.480 --> 32:34.280 wants to be one of the ones that get it. 32:34.280 --> 32:38.160 That's why you're a suggestion of striking just can't work. 32:38.160 --> 32:39.160 It's not going to work. 32:39.160 --> 32:43.360 I mean, you're relatively self-sufficient, you've probably gotten up money and savings 32:43.360 --> 32:47.440 to survive, even with a meagre visits to the rest of your life without work. 32:47.440 --> 32:48.920 Most of us don't. 32:48.920 --> 32:53.280 Most of us are a one or two months away from total poverty, from total, you know, bankruptcy 32:53.280 --> 32:56.320 and debt and not being able to pay our bills. 32:56.320 --> 32:57.320 We can't just strike. 32:57.320 --> 33:00.440 That means losing our income, losing our income means losing our lives like that. 33:00.440 --> 33:02.440 So, how do you do it? 33:02.440 --> 33:08.640 Well, the only way to do it, the only way to make it work is if everybody does it simultaneously 33:08.640 --> 33:10.440 all once, all together. 33:10.440 --> 33:15.480 If you need to do that, no matter what everybody, I mean, the whole country, I mean, 33:15.480 --> 33:17.760 another country to demand a decision. 33:17.760 --> 33:22.480 I think even 10% of the United States population will be enough to have dramatic effects 33:22.480 --> 33:23.480 on Washington. 33:23.480 --> 33:27.480 I mean, if 30 million people stood up and said, no, what are they going to do? 33:27.480 --> 33:28.480 Ignore them? 33:28.800 --> 33:32.120 If 30 million people, you don't ignore 30 million people. 33:32.120 --> 33:34.240 But how do you organize? 33:34.240 --> 33:40.360 How do you motivate and how you orchestrate the actions of 30 million people? 33:40.360 --> 33:41.360 That's the problem. 33:41.360 --> 33:43.520 That's where they have us by the balls. 33:43.520 --> 33:47.360 Because the power of dollars, even if it took away all of our freedoms, the power of 33:47.360 --> 33:52.400 dollars, 255 million people versus how many military. 33:52.400 --> 33:56.120 I mean, short of nookiness is nothing they can do to stop us. 33:56.120 --> 33:59.560 But all they have to do is cause us to stop ourselves. 33:59.560 --> 34:00.760 So think about that. 34:00.760 --> 34:05.400 It's not about standing up and saying, no, it's about how to get enough people to stand 34:05.400 --> 34:08.840 up and say, no, simultaneously, in the unison, that's the problem. 34:08.840 --> 34:12.000 How do you organize that many people? 34:12.000 --> 34:15.640 Just don't think about, fuck you, Adam Gary. 34:15.640 --> 34:20.200 OK, I'll let you slide for that one. 34:20.200 --> 34:22.880 OK, so I'm listening to this at the office. 34:22.880 --> 34:26.480 And then the female comes in from a raw, uh, 34:26.480 --> 34:27.920 crotatual thing. 34:27.920 --> 34:29.120 Adam, love the show. 34:29.120 --> 34:31.120 This short video is great. 34:31.120 --> 34:34.320 I think we would end up generates an interest with your listeners, uh, 34:34.320 --> 34:37.760 which he found by a Boeing Boeing, and I will put that link in the show notes. 34:37.760 --> 34:42.960 But you're going to be able to remember this one because it's a website that you can find 34:42.960 --> 34:46.800 at storyofstuff.com. 34:46.800 --> 34:50.320 And it is literally, um, the story of stuff. 34:50.320 --> 34:53.680 Well, I'm like, one of my jacks is host. 34:53.680 --> 34:54.560 Come on, bitch. 34:54.560 --> 34:56.560 OK. 34:56.560 --> 35:00.400 So let me, uh, since, um, since this is audio, I'm going to, 35:00.400 --> 35:02.960 I'm going to play a piece from this for you. 35:02.960 --> 35:05.840 It's kind of, it's like a widescreen kind of format. 35:05.840 --> 35:09.280 There's a woman who, of course, I forgot in her name. 35:09.280 --> 35:11.440 And that actually is quite important. 35:11.440 --> 35:15.040 But she's kind of a superimposed over, uh, one, two, three, 35:15.040 --> 35:18.560 over five, five drawings in the background. 35:18.640 --> 35:21.680 And so it's five chapters of the story of stuff. 35:21.680 --> 35:23.760 And it's, uh, it's not really that short. 35:23.760 --> 35:25.120 It's quite long, actually. 35:25.120 --> 35:28.960 Uh, but the, the five stories, the five chapters are extraction, production, 35:28.960 --> 35:31.200 distribution, consumption, and disposal. 35:31.200 --> 35:33.840 And then, of course, she has an alternative way. 35:33.840 --> 35:36.720 And this is really about how we're raping the earth, 35:36.720 --> 35:40.000 to manufacture, shit, create toxins, the toxins, 35:40.000 --> 35:42.720 go into all the products that we make, um, 35:42.720 --> 35:47.040 the products are designed to, to not last long, or it's a throwaway 35:47.600 --> 35:49.600 products. You know, we have a throwaway culture. 35:49.600 --> 35:52.960 And then, of course, this stuff, uh, only a small percentage, 35:52.960 --> 35:55.840 is actually recycled, you know, all of this, uh, you know, 35:55.840 --> 35:57.120 we're killing the earth. That's what this is. 35:57.120 --> 35:59.200 You want, you understand that when you see it, 35:59.200 --> 36:02.240 you'll say, I understand the story, but you should actually sit through it and watch it, 36:02.240 --> 36:04.320 because, um, it's a good story. 36:04.320 --> 36:09.040 It's good to be reminded and, uh, particularly, um, when she talks about 36:09.040 --> 36:10.720 government and big business. 36:10.720 --> 36:13.280 And the cartoons are kind of funny and very illustrative. 36:13.280 --> 36:14.560 I'm sure my daughter's going to watch. 36:14.640 --> 36:18.720 I hope so. I'll, uh, if I recommend it to her, she'll never watch it. 36:18.720 --> 36:23.040 I'll try and get her one of her friends to recommend it to her, um, 36:23.040 --> 36:27.120 but there's a piece in the middle that, and it just, it like hit me, 36:27.120 --> 36:34.560 like, whoa, I have the solution to how we can actually create a positive, 36:36.720 --> 36:43.280 a positive show of force to demonstrate against the, let's just call the 36:43.280 --> 36:48.240 industrial complex, because it's not just military, big part of it, by the way. 36:49.120 --> 36:53.200 But we can actually, we have, we've had the control that our fingertips for years, 36:53.200 --> 36:56.720 and we haven't even understood that we have the power. 36:56.720 --> 37:02.320 And to enforce this power, actually, enriches our lives, 37:02.320 --> 37:04.960 literally, and riches our lives. 37:06.000 --> 37:08.640 If you take it in one literal sense, there's a couple of them. 37:09.600 --> 37:13.040 So I just want to play this one part called consumption. 37:14.640 --> 37:17.760 And I think you can drop into the middle of the story. 37:17.760 --> 37:21.840 So right now, you see, there's this, uh, we've gone from, uh, 37:21.840 --> 37:25.200 extraction of raw materials from the earth, of course, in their world countries. 37:25.840 --> 37:30.720 Into production, we create toxins, we blow toxins into the air, everyone's toxic, we're all going to die. 37:31.680 --> 37:37.760 Then it goes over to distribution, you know, Walmart, Apple, Microsoft, uh, yeah, 37:37.920 --> 37:39.760 hardware, um, 37:41.120 --> 37:50.880 came out, no, Walmart, um, you know, the Sears, uh, radio shack, whatever, big distribution, consumer goods. 37:51.520 --> 37:51.920 Thank you. 37:53.520 --> 37:58.000 Then it goes into trash, I take, you know, trash out, and then how we get rid of trash, and 37:58.000 --> 38:00.640 and how basically, you know, we're sucking the earth dry, okay. 38:01.440 --> 38:05.440 But then there's this one little golden arrow, which is the consumption part. 38:06.320 --> 38:10.080 Please pay attention to this. Just listen, sit back. 38:11.200 --> 38:15.440 You'll, you'll hit the part that I really, I can't fast forward. This thing otherwise, it probably would have 38:15.440 --> 38:19.840 cuted up. I know I'm getting to it. I know I would have cuted up a different 38:19.840 --> 38:25.600 different spot, but it'll be worth a couple of minutes to listen to this chapter from storyofstuff.com. 38:25.600 --> 38:28.880 That brings us to the golden arrow of consumption. 38:30.000 --> 38:33.040 This is the heart of the system, the engine that drives it. 38:33.200 --> 38:37.920 It is so important that protecting this arrow has become the top priority for both of these 38:37.920 --> 38:43.360 guys. That's why after 9-11, when our country was in shock and President Bush could have suggested 38:43.360 --> 38:50.480 any number of appropriate things to grieve, to pray, to hope. No, he said to shop, to shop. 38:51.200 --> 38:57.600 We have become a nation of consumers. Our primary identity has become that of being consumers, 38:57.600 --> 39:03.760 not mothers, teachers, farmers, but consumers. The primary way that our value is measured 39:03.760 --> 39:10.080 and demonstrated is by how much we contribute to this arrow, how much we consume, and do we, 39:10.080 --> 39:17.760 we shop, and shop, and shop, keep the materials flowing, and flow they do. Guess what percentage 39:17.760 --> 39:22.880 of total materials flow through this system is still in product or use six months after 39:22.880 --> 39:34.240 their date of sale in North America. 50 percent? 20? No. 1 percent. 1. In other words, 99 percent 39:34.240 --> 39:38.640 of the stuff we harvest mine, processed transport, 99 percent of the stuff we run through this 39:38.640 --> 39:45.760 system is trashed within six months. Now, how can we run a planet with that level of materials 39:45.760 --> 39:51.680 throughput? It wasn't always like this. The average US person now consumes twice as much as they 39:51.680 --> 39:57.440 did 50 years ago. Ask your grandma. In her day stewardship and resourcefulness and thrift were 39:57.440 --> 40:04.800 valued. So how did this happen? Well, it didn't just happen. It was designed. Shortly after World 40:04.800 --> 40:11.040 War II, these guys were figuring out how to ramp up the economy, retailing analyst Victor Lebow 40:11.040 --> 40:16.000 articulated the solution that's become the norm for the whole system. He said, are enormously 40:16.000 --> 40:20.640 productive economy demands that we make consumption our way of life, that we convert the buying 40:20.640 --> 40:25.680 and use of goods into rituals, that we seek our spiritual satisfaction, our ego satisfaction in 40:25.680 --> 40:32.000 consumption, many of things consumed, burned up, replaced and discarded at an ever accelerating rate. 40:32.640 --> 40:37.680 President Eisenhower's Council of Economic Advisors Chairman said that the American economy's 40:37.680 --> 40:43.680 ultimate purpose is to produce more consumer goods. More consumer goods are ultimate purpose, 40:44.320 --> 40:49.600 not provide health care, education, or safe transportation, or sustainability, or justice, 40:49.600 --> 40:55.440 consumer goods. How did they get us to jump on board this program so enthusiastically? Well, 40:55.440 --> 41:00.320 two of their most effective strategies are planned obsolescence and perceived obsolescence. 41:00.960 --> 41:06.000 Planed obsolescence is another word for designed for the dumb. It means they actually make 41:06.000 --> 41:10.720 stuff to be useless as quickly as possible, so we'll chuck it and buy a new one. It's obvious 41:10.720 --> 41:16.160 with things like plastic bags and coffee cups, but now it's even big stuff. Mob, DVDs, cameras, 41:16.160 --> 41:21.520 barbecues, even everything, even computers. Have you noticed that when you buy a computer now, 41:21.520 --> 41:25.520 the technology is changing so fast that in just a couple of years, it's actually an impediment 41:25.520 --> 41:30.480 to communication? I was curious about this, so I opened up a big desktop computer to see what was 41:30.480 --> 41:35.840 inside. And I found out that the piece that changes each year is just a tiny little piece in the 41:35.840 --> 41:40.640 corner, but you can't just change it at one piece because each new version is a different shape, 41:40.640 --> 41:46.480 so you've got to chuck the whole thing and buy a new one. So I was reading industrial design 41:46.480 --> 41:52.000 journals from the 1950s when planned obsolescence was really catching on. These designers are so open 41:52.000 --> 41:57.600 about it. They actually discuss how fast can they make stuff break that still leaves the consumer 41:57.600 --> 42:02.800 having enough faith in the product to go out and buy another one. It was so intentional, but stuff 42:02.800 --> 42:08.240 can not break fast enough to keep this arrow afloat. So there's also perceived obsolescence. 42:08.320 --> 42:15.200 Now perceived obsolescence is to throw away stuff that is still perfectly useful. How do they do 42:15.200 --> 42:20.800 that? Well, they change the way the stuff looks. So if you bought your stuff a couple of years ago, 42:20.800 --> 42:24.960 everyone can tell that you haven't contributed to this arrow recently. And since the way we 42:24.960 --> 42:29.920 demonstrate our value is contributing to this arrow, it can be embarrassing. Like I've had the 42:29.920 --> 42:35.920 same fat white computer monitor on my desk for five years, my coworker just got a new computer. 42:36.000 --> 42:41.840 She has a flat shiny sleek monitor. The matches are computer, matches are phone, even a 42:41.840 --> 42:46.960 pen stand. She looks like she's driving in spaceship central and I kind of like going 42:46.960 --> 42:52.720 about a washing machine on my desk. Fashion is another prime example of this. Have you ever wondered 42:52.720 --> 42:57.520 why women shoot heels go from fat one year to skin is the next to fat to skinny? It's not because 42:57.520 --> 43:01.680 there's some debate about which heel structure is the most healthy for women's feet. It's because 43:01.680 --> 43:06.320 wearing fat heels in a skinny heel year shows everybody that you haven't contributed to that 43:06.320 --> 43:10.880 arrow as recently. So you're not as valuable as that person in skinny heels next to you or more 43:10.880 --> 43:18.240 likely in some ad. It's to keep us buying new shoes. Advertisements and media in general plays a big 43:18.240 --> 43:24.640 role in this. Each of us in the US is targeted with over 3,000 advertisements a day. We see more 43:24.640 --> 43:29.440 advertisements in one year than people 50 years ago saw in a lifetime. And if you think about it, 43:29.440 --> 43:34.720 what's the point of an ad except to make us unhappy with what we have? So 3,000 times today, 43:34.720 --> 43:37.280 we're told our hair is wrong. Our skin is wrong. Our clothes are wrong. Our furniture is 43:37.280 --> 43:43.200 wrong. Our car is wrong. We are wrong, but it can all be made right if we just go shopping. Media also 43:43.200 --> 43:48.400 helps by hiding all of this and all of this. So the only part of the material's economy we see 43:48.400 --> 43:54.240 is the shopping. The extraction, production and disposal all happens outside of our field of vision. 43:55.120 --> 44:00.720 So in the US, we have more stuff than ever before, but polisho that our national happiness is 44:00.720 --> 44:06.800 actually declining. Our national happiness peaked in the 1950s. The same time that this consumption 44:06.800 --> 44:14.640 maniac exploded. Interesting coincidence. I think I know why. We have more stuff but we have less 44:14.640 --> 44:20.640 time for the things that really make us happy. Friends, family, leisure time. We're working harder 44:20.640 --> 44:25.840 than ever. Some analysts say we have less leisure time than any time since feudal society. 44:25.840 --> 44:29.760 And do you know what the two main activities are that we do with the scant leisure time we have? 44:30.320 --> 44:36.480 Watch TV and shop. In the US, we spend three to four times as many hours shopping as our 44:36.480 --> 44:40.800 counterparts in Europe do. So we're in this ridiculous situation where we go to work maybe 44:40.800 --> 44:45.280 two jobs even when we come home and we're exhausted. So we plopped in on our new couch and watch TV. 44:45.280 --> 44:49.360 And the commercials tell us you suck. So we got to go to them all the bisoning to feel better. 44:49.360 --> 44:52.080 And then you got to go to work more to pay for the stuff you just bought. You come home and 44:52.080 --> 44:55.040 you're more tired. You sit down and you watch more TV. And it tells you go to them all again. 44:55.040 --> 45:02.240 And we're on this crazy work, watch, spend treadmill. And we could just stop now you see that's the 45:02.240 --> 45:06.320 paint that's the piece. We spent all this stuff. Shut up. Thank you. That's the piece I really 45:06.320 --> 45:15.200 want to get to hear. Wow. What an eye opener perceived obsolescence. That is indeed a fantastic 45:16.080 --> 45:21.840 model. It's never been mine, but it's the business model of fashion. As an example, 45:21.840 --> 45:28.640 it's the business model of cars of consumer goods without a doubt perceived obsolescence. Fantastic. 45:28.640 --> 45:36.640 So the easiest way is to slow down the consumer spending. I don't know. We don't have to stop it. 45:37.280 --> 45:41.920 But the good news is when you slow down consumer spending when you and I start spending less. 45:42.880 --> 45:49.920 We actually have more money. What a concept. What a great protest this could be. Stop the 45:49.920 --> 45:59.120 menicide. Stop shopping. Now obviously double edged sword here because I'm a part of this machine 45:59.120 --> 46:05.280 or we're starting up or we're kind of in the mid cycle of a of a new version of this. 46:05.680 --> 46:13.680 And you know, I'm a commercial MF. I got no problem with making money with advertising. 46:15.760 --> 46:23.440 But perhaps we can look at what we're buying first and foremost. Reusables, green, etc, etc. 46:24.640 --> 46:31.520 But really just slow it down. Particularly this perceived obsolescence. I think that's a big deal. 46:31.840 --> 46:38.880 I really do. I, you know, when when someone is trying to sell you something, maybe this is 46:38.880 --> 46:44.960 the best plan of attack when someone is trying to sell you something because last year's model is 46:44.960 --> 46:49.440 uncool. And that's the product you should not be buying. Then you're buying into the whole 46:50.160 --> 46:55.920 work really hard. Have TV tell you you suck because you don't have the latest and the greatest. 46:56.640 --> 47:02.080 Go shopping, go work harder to go make some money for that is a deadly deadly circle of 47:02.080 --> 47:07.760 cycle that we're in. I can see I can see my own daughter in this cycle easily easily. 47:09.360 --> 47:13.360 And even though she gets minimal input from television because she really doesn't watch that much TV. 47:13.360 --> 47:18.080 Well, I'm sure banner ads and shit, you know, magazine, whatever fashion fashion is doing it. 47:19.360 --> 47:24.240 Maybe we should start a new fashion line. I have the wrong bag. Just put it just a bag, a hand bag that says 47:24.560 --> 47:28.400 wrong bag. You know how women will look at it. She's got the wrong bag. 47:28.960 --> 47:35.760 Can you believe it? She's got the wrong bag. Look at those heels. Wrong heels. Just make it like the red products, 47:35.760 --> 47:41.440 you know? Instead of saying red or instead of saying Gucci, just wrong. That's even better. 47:41.440 --> 47:47.520 That's, uh, I've got a new brand, the wrong brand. I've got the wrong bag. I've got the wrong car. 47:47.520 --> 47:53.520 I've got the wrong shirt. Excellent. Hey, Chris Mac, let's start making those up. Let's 47:53.680 --> 47:59.520 start making up some t-shirts trademark. I'm calling it right now. We're going for the wrong brand. 47:59.520 --> 48:07.200 What a great idea. Stop the menicide by wrong. Stop the menicide. I say bye wrong. 48:10.240 --> 48:12.240 Oh, I should wrap this up. 48:12.240 --> 48:16.880 I'm good. Chris and River Town. I can to call you and leave comments in real time. I'll actually 48:16.880 --> 48:20.400 pause your podcast and call up and leave a comment. What I just heard, 48:20.480 --> 48:24.560 course, that was about 30 seconds before we change from buck you haven't carried. I love you haven't 48:24.560 --> 48:28.960 carried. So I got another one for eight updates. I fucking love you. I'm carry. 48:31.200 --> 48:36.080 That's a great one. All right, uh, one more song, uh, not pod safe, but uh, 48:36.080 --> 48:39.680 very appropriate for the time of year. Happy Hanukkah, everybody. 48:50.400 --> 49:09.200 Good old young Haka, it's time for Hanukkah. So much fun, Haka, to celebrate Hanukkah. 49:10.000 --> 49:11.200 Oh, my God. 49:14.560 --> 49:19.840 Hanukkah is the best of all of us. 49:21.200 --> 49:26.720 Instead of one day have a presence. We get eight. 49:32.000 --> 49:37.440 Where do you feel like the only kid in town without a Christmas tree? 49:39.440 --> 49:42.160 Here's our new list of people who are Jewish. 49:43.440 --> 49:47.440 Swallow slide you and play. 49:47.440 --> 51:03.680 [ Music ] 51:03.680 --> 51:05.680 Still not a Jew. 51:05.680 --> 51:10.320 The guess who is the guy who does the voice for Scooby-Doo. 51:12.880 --> 51:17.200 Rob Dylan was born a Jew. Then he wasn't but now he's back. 51:18.000 --> 51:20.880 Mary Tyler Moore's husband is Jewish. 51:20.880 --> 51:22.880 Costware pretty good in the sack. 51:23.520 --> 51:30.000 Yes, you got barbets fitted on the PGA tour. 51:30.000 --> 52:16.250 [ Music ] 52:16.320 --> 52:30.080 That's a new updated version of the Hanukkah song. I don't know how old it is. 52:30.080 --> 52:36.160 I was familiar with the first one. It's like a new list of Jews, fantastic. Happy Hanukkah, 52:36.160 --> 52:39.920 the Hanukkah song. Nice to hear some actual vinyl crackling there. 52:39.920 --> 52:41.360 Haven't heard that in a long time. 52:41.360 --> 52:46.960 Okay, so I think we've got a whole new fashion statement. We've got a whole new A to protest. 52:46.960 --> 52:50.880 We could roll this out globally. Stop the men aside. 52:51.840 --> 52:58.000 By wrong. I just love it. I can see you the wrong brand everywhere. 52:58.800 --> 53:05.760 And good old products made in the USA, by the way. And recyclable reusable products. By wrong. 53:06.640 --> 53:10.640 I don't know if I'm going to be able to do a food bar Friday for you tomorrow because I'm 53:10.640 --> 53:15.200 actually on the plain home. Thank goodness Friday afternoon. We've got early morning Friday 53:15.200 --> 53:20.720 meetings. I won't be back in the condo until late Thursday night when I'd normally do the show. 53:21.280 --> 53:25.920 I got a pack because I got to take my bag with me to the meeting. So I just don't know if I'm 53:25.920 --> 53:29.200 going to have time because you know, a food bar takes a little prep with songs and all that stuff. 53:30.160 --> 53:35.600 So I'll make it up to you if I don't just remember. Man, there's so many things to 53:35.760 --> 53:40.000 remember. You've got to live your life with passion. You've got to enjoy your freedom. 53:41.440 --> 53:46.240 And we've got to stop the men aside. Vote for Ron Paul and shop wrong. 53:46.640 --> 53:50.480 Another pod show podcast. 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