WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:05.000 This podcast is brought to you by Poncho and GoDaddy. 00:05.000 --> 00:10.000 This show will give you a special code to get great discounts at GoDaddy.com. 00:10.000 --> 00:12.000 Got something to say? 00:12.000 --> 00:15.000 Log it with your frequent log from GoDaddy. 00:20.000 --> 00:21.000 It's 6am. 00:21.000 --> 00:22.000 This is San Francisco. 00:22.000 --> 00:24.000 Head Delta Sheriff Charlie. 00:24.000 --> 00:25.000 713. 00:26.000 --> 00:29.000 16 million dollars worth of airplane strapped to my ass. 00:30.000 --> 00:33.000 Done the next generation radio content in my ears. 00:36.000 --> 00:38.000 I like to think I'm flying into the future. 00:42.000 --> 00:45.000 You're listening to the Daily Source code with Adam Curry. 00:45.000 --> 00:47.000 And his audience have meant well, love him. 00:47.000 --> 00:48.000 No, homo. 00:49.000 --> 00:50.000 Yeah, we're right. 00:55.000 --> 00:57.000 Running your pants through my hair. 00:57.000 --> 04:19.340 [ Music ] 04:19.340 --> 04:36.260 Well, that doesn't open up the deranity and you, I don't know what else will. 04:36.260 --> 04:42.940 It's uptown, boys, regular, Tyler Burns from the Faud Save Music on the daily source 04:42.940 --> 04:48.060 code episode 713 coming to you from the curry kind of over about it. 04:48.500 --> 04:54.740 Now, let me ask you, if there was definitely one thing you wouldn't do when you were 04:54.740 --> 05:01.180 going on the road, would you change your road base setup? 05:01.180 --> 05:06.980 I bet you wouldn't, oh man, oh, oops, sorry about that. 05:06.980 --> 05:09.220 Nice little fade out there, wonderful. 05:09.220 --> 05:11.820 Yeah, here's what I've done. 05:11.820 --> 05:16.460 Actually it was Franco from Rokostitalia who turned me on to the new version of Ableton 05:16.460 --> 05:18.620 Live, which is now up to number seven. 05:18.620 --> 05:23.420 The line I went back to my email actually and I looked, and I guess maybe the release 05:23.420 --> 05:28.580 numbers correspond with the year that they were released because it was 2005 when I 05:28.580 --> 05:33.180 last looked at Ableton Live and just like every other program for the Mac, really, 05:33.180 --> 05:36.540 I think we've come into a beautiful crux kind of an intersection where everything 05:36.540 --> 05:41.660 all fits together where we have the processor speed is fast enough, the software is 05:41.700 --> 05:47.980 lean and mean enough where you can actually just plug in a microphone and there's no latency. 05:47.980 --> 05:52.780 I mean, there is, there actually is a few milliseconds, maybe it's less than one millisecond 05:52.780 --> 05:57.580 latency, which the program just needs to keep pace with itself. 05:57.580 --> 06:03.220 So why don't you be along on the ride with me to find out if they actually hangs together? 06:03.220 --> 06:08.500 I gotta tell you, it looks pretty, actually, you know what, why don't I make a screenshot 06:08.580 --> 06:09.580 of it home on a second? 06:09.580 --> 06:12.580 I think I can do this, who knows what will happen, right? 06:12.580 --> 06:13.580 All kind. 06:13.580 --> 06:14.580 Okay. 06:14.580 --> 06:19.220 I don't know if that worked enough, but it seems like we're still recording, so I'll just 06:19.220 --> 06:20.220 leave it as it is. 06:20.220 --> 06:25.860 Yeah, it's actually a little bit past six a.m. it's now about six twenty five. 06:25.860 --> 06:31.980 I got in last night, or actually yesterday afternoon, now I apologize because the 06:31.980 --> 06:35.180 first of all, I thought I was going to be able to do a show on Tuesday, turned out 06:35.260 --> 06:38.060 Tuesday in the city was a lot easier than I expected. 06:38.060 --> 06:40.060 I didn't get home until relatively late. 06:40.060 --> 06:43.220 And on the way home, I found out, oh, you know what, I really do need to go to San Francisco. 06:43.220 --> 06:47.500 And of course, we have one of our infamous board meetings today, actually. 06:47.500 --> 06:54.380 So, Lickley split, booked a flight, flew out Wednesday morning, flight, of course, was 06:54.380 --> 06:55.780 nice on eventful. 06:55.780 --> 07:01.500 I was actually, I slept for a couple hours, which is nice, maybe three, four hours. 07:01.500 --> 07:06.540 Now, it just started watching this movie, I think it's called Shut Up, I think, or 07:06.540 --> 07:12.020 it's about a WLDJ PD Green in Washington. 07:12.020 --> 07:16.180 And I was about twenty minutes into it, and there was sales weasel Greg stand the next 07:16.180 --> 07:20.540 to my seat, who was on the same flight, he had been in London, he had been working with 07:20.540 --> 07:24.820 Vanessa, our sales weaselette in the UK office. 07:24.820 --> 07:26.060 So he went down to the bar. 07:26.060 --> 07:29.780 I've never actually sat at the bar on Virgin on a Virgin flight, and it was Greg, because 07:29.780 --> 07:33.060 there was no one else there, and the minute you sit down, they start to serve you, you know, 07:33.060 --> 07:35.620 it's like, can get you drink, you know, want something to eat, we'll mix them off to 07:35.620 --> 07:39.100 noon tea, so it was nice, and we chatted for at least an hour and a half, maybe even two 07:39.100 --> 07:40.100 hours. 07:40.100 --> 07:44.020 It was good, we really got caught up on a lot of things. 07:44.020 --> 07:51.060 And of course, I said, hey, you know, I would invite you to ride with me into the city, 07:51.060 --> 07:52.060 but guess what? 07:52.060 --> 07:55.940 I'm pretty sure that they're going to flag me and they're going to stop me. 07:55.940 --> 07:58.980 So we went through customs together, lo and behold, and actually, you know, it happened 07:58.980 --> 07:59.980 once again. 07:59.980 --> 08:04.580 Custom guy said, hey, wait a minute, aren't you, um, aren't you, uh, that, uh, I said, yeah, 08:04.580 --> 08:05.580 the MTV guy. 08:05.580 --> 08:12.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the MTV guys, you know, uh, I thought you would kind of, you know, 08:12.900 --> 08:15.700 I kind of saw that look and I thought you look familiar and I said, you know, the look 08:15.700 --> 08:16.700 you have on your face right now. 08:16.700 --> 08:19.740 I've seen that for the past five times, I've entered the U.S., because you're looking 08:19.740 --> 08:22.900 at me going, that's the MTV guy. 08:22.900 --> 08:26.300 How come I've got to put a M on his uh, customs form? 08:27.260 --> 08:30.220 He said, yeah, I don't know, man, but there's definitely something in there. 08:30.220 --> 08:32.060 And it's an M, it's definitely an M. 08:32.060 --> 08:37.180 I'm trying, I know one will tell me what the M stands for, um, I, you know, I, I just, 08:37.180 --> 08:39.620 I can't even come up with anything. 08:39.620 --> 08:43.620 So yeah, um, I had to go through, uh, and actually I took a little different approach 08:43.620 --> 08:48.060 this time, um, you know, I was all smiles and like, hey, how you doing? 08:48.060 --> 08:50.100 Oh, I guess I should go straight ahead there. 08:50.100 --> 08:53.660 Yeah, I know where to go and he, you know, once again put my customs form, the little 08:53.660 --> 08:59.140 blue plastic, uh, clicking on the thing and, uh, and walked me over. 08:59.140 --> 09:04.260 And this time, there was a guy there who had, um, investigated me before. 09:04.260 --> 09:09.860 And he's like, wow, man, you're still on the list, uh, yeah, this is, uh, well, how come 09:09.860 --> 09:11.020 you can't get off of this? 09:11.020 --> 09:15.460 I said, uh, I think you know the answer to that, to know, I have a piece of paper and you 09:15.460 --> 09:18.780 can send it and I was like, yeah, right, that's the freedom of information, act piece 09:18.780 --> 09:20.660 of paper that I got in New York the last time. 09:20.660 --> 09:23.420 He said, yeah, yeah, it doesn't really make any difference. 09:23.420 --> 09:24.420 Yeah, you're right. 09:24.420 --> 09:29.300 But anyway, you're okay, go on through how about that, huh? 09:29.300 --> 09:30.700 How about that for some service? 09:30.700 --> 09:36.020 Hey Adam, Adam, this is Andrew from the Bay Area, uh, I'm way behind on the episodes, but 09:36.020 --> 09:40.820 I just want to call you having a discussion about why you appeared on the Homeland Security 09:40.820 --> 09:46.420 or Customs, no fly list, or at least check you every time you do fly list. 09:46.420 --> 09:49.900 One thing that I hadn't heard about up yet is the fact that you're a pilot. 09:50.820 --> 09:55.940 You mentioned that they have this database or this sort of checklist where you check 09:55.940 --> 09:59.980 a certain number of boxes, then you get put on that list or you get flagged for screening. 09:59.980 --> 10:04.420 So my guess is, uh, one of the big boxes you check is the fact that you're a pilot, if you 10:04.420 --> 10:07.900 remember, obviously 911, the guys trained as pilot. 10:07.900 --> 10:13.180 So, uh, in addition to you, you know, flying in and out of the country a lot, uh, the 10:13.180 --> 10:17.980 fact that you and yourself are a pilot, okay, that has triggered something in their database. 10:18.060 --> 10:19.340 Anyway, just not to you. 10:19.340 --> 10:23.340 Yeah, well, interesting thought, and when I think about a little bit more, yeah, you know, 10:23.340 --> 10:28.140 if you put it all together, the fact that I've been to Kuwait, uh, Kuwait, sorry, uh, 10:28.140 --> 10:32.860 the fact that I've been to Iraq, uh, this was, by the way, all my previous passport, but I'm sure 10:32.860 --> 10:36.700 the information carried over because I had to get visas, at least for Kuwait, I had to get a visa. 10:37.500 --> 10:41.900 Uh, add to that a pilot's license, uh, remember there's everything from the DMV to the IRS 10:41.900 --> 10:45.980 and his database and this illegal database, I might point out, which is not supposed to 10:45.980 --> 10:47.980 exist according to Congress, but it is there. 10:47.980 --> 10:53.740 Uh, the, the knocking and, uh, and all the, uh, sounds you hear is a combination of me sitting 10:53.740 --> 10:57.740 at the, uh, at the table, I'm not at the Bakers' rack because basically, all I have now 10:57.740 --> 10:59.180 was just my Mac, how about that? 10:59.180 --> 11:02.060 I don't have 15 outboard pieces of gear. 11:02.060 --> 11:06.860 It's the first time I've come to San Francisco without the Violopt laptop, which includes 11:06.860 --> 11:07.860 cast blast. 11:07.860 --> 11:11.180 So I was really taking a risk saying, you know what, if I'm going to do it, I'm just going 11:11.180 --> 11:12.180 to do it. 11:12.180 --> 11:15.060 See if I can get this thing to work, uh, hopefully so far. 11:15.060 --> 11:16.060 So good. 11:16.060 --> 11:21.460 You know, it was a, um, maybe it was, uh, the beginning of, uh, last week, or maybe even the 11:21.460 --> 11:27.300 week before that at the end, I was talking about, uh, the Nokia N-810, the internet tablet. 11:27.300 --> 11:31.740 By the way, uh, I'm the top seller so far, uh, from what I understand, uh, these are 11:31.740 --> 11:36.780 unofficial numbers, it's actually work and people have purchased it at the best price 11:36.780 --> 11:43.340 anywhere on the internet, 15% discount if you use the code daily source code, um, and, uh, 11:43.340 --> 11:46.540 and thank you by the way for those of you who've purchased it for sending me, uh, you know, 11:46.540 --> 11:48.300 nice little emails about how much you love it. 11:48.300 --> 11:52.540 I told you I wouldn't steal you wrong on this thing, but, um, so maybe a week ago, two 11:52.540 --> 11:57.980 weeks ago, I was talking about using log me in on, uh, on the tablet to get to other computers, 11:57.980 --> 12:02.380 basically, like, uh, kind of like what Apple is trying to do with their, um, uh, back to 12:02.380 --> 12:06.020 my Mac, which just doesn't work very well across all different networks. 12:06.020 --> 12:10.900 I mean, I've tried every, every combination, um, and, you know, I really just want to be 12:10.900 --> 12:15.460 able to take over a control of the screen of at least, you know, four of the computers 12:15.460 --> 12:16.460 that are in my life. 12:16.460 --> 12:20.620 Most importantly, the one that my wife uses because, you know, from time to time, she just 12:20.620 --> 12:21.620 needs some help. 12:21.620 --> 12:26.980 Hey, Adam, Jesse, and you can't hear you, I say, thinking about the last C had C I heard 12:26.980 --> 12:28.980 and had a few things to say about it. 12:28.980 --> 12:32.260 First of all, that log me in services, like in way cool, mm-hmm. 12:32.260 --> 12:37.660 But because there's something like that to, uh, to help my mother, who, often needs health 12:37.660 --> 12:38.660 points. 12:38.660 --> 12:40.300 That's exactly what everyone is saying. 12:40.300 --> 12:45.340 Everyone says, yeah, man, it was great because, um, my sister, my dad, my mother, my wife, 12:45.340 --> 12:48.380 whatever, you know, she really needs, he, she, it really needs help. 12:48.380 --> 12:52.220 And now, from anywhere you have a web browser, you can just connect to the thing. 12:52.220 --> 12:54.300 It's, uh, and they should be paying me for that. 12:54.300 --> 12:55.300 I should shut up. 12:55.300 --> 12:59.580 And, uh, at least in the evening for me to get to our house and having something like that, 12:59.580 --> 13:06.060 uh, it just works, it's beautiful when something works and it's free to go to home. 13:06.300 --> 13:09.660 I was thinking about, that's a new to a power issue, mm-hmm. 13:09.660 --> 13:12.380 And the seeds, the green seeds you're talking about, man. 13:12.380 --> 13:16.620 They were talking about, uh, uh, was it something, uh, 13:16.620 --> 13:18.380 who'd be your rod Adams called in. 13:18.380 --> 13:20.940 We were talking about, uh, new power in the UK. 13:20.940 --> 13:24.620 I'm not quite sure we talked about the green fees, so please do, do carry on. 13:24.620 --> 13:28.140 Here in the state of New Hampshire in the US, uh, uh, 13:28.140 --> 13:32.860 I honestly don't understand them all, but we're, I pay $100 a year and some sort of 13:32.860 --> 13:38.860 nuclear decommissioning fees, uh, presumably something to do with the, uh, 13:38.860 --> 13:43.100 because of power plants and seafood in New Hampshire, but for again, hey, man. 13:43.100 --> 13:48.700 I, I, I'm paying my, uh, decommissioning something that's still operating, 13:48.700 --> 13:51.500 and I'm still paying my bill on top of that. 13:51.500 --> 13:52.780 That's pretty crazy. 13:52.780 --> 13:56.380 Is that, uh, is that from the, uh, from the state government, and they're asking 13:56.380 --> 14:00.940 you to pay these decommissioning fees, or is that on your energy bill, like, kind of like the 14:01.020 --> 14:06.700 airlines will put on a special quote, tax for, uh, fuel surcharge, which is basically just 14:06.700 --> 14:11.020 you paying directly for their cost of doing business, is that, uh, where's it coming from? 14:11.020 --> 14:12.460 Who's billing you for that stuff? 14:12.460 --> 14:18.140 Um, so sort of on that note of energy, I'm a guy that works for an oil company, and I'm 14:18.140 --> 14:21.740 going to work in my hybrid car, uh, sort of interesting. 14:22.540 --> 14:27.740 So I was thinking a good topic, um, sort of in the old vein of topics she had, like, 14:27.820 --> 14:32.780 the Metro sexual home, it might be, uh, cars and car tech and, and gadgets. 14:32.780 --> 14:37.660 I think that's a cool one of the discussions, um, I'd be interested to hear, for example, 14:37.660 --> 14:41.820 how other people are listening to this, see if they're in their cars, and what sort of 14:41.820 --> 14:42.940 tech is going on. 14:42.940 --> 14:48.380 So might just be some good gadgets discussions, where I, I, I, I think that, uh, gadgets and 14:48.380 --> 14:54.220 car talk would fit in line with your, your audience, make up, I think, anyway, maybe I'll just 14:55.180 --> 14:56.620 Yeah, I appreciate the thought. 14:56.620 --> 14:57.740 I, I don't know about that. 14:57.740 --> 15:00.140 First of all, I don't really give a shit about cars anymore. 15:00.140 --> 15:03.660 Um, I, I just don't, it's just the, I don't know. 15:03.660 --> 15:07.980 It happened, uh, probably, you know what had happened when Patricia sold on my cars? 15:07.980 --> 15:09.100 That's what, that's what, that's what had happened. 15:09.100 --> 15:11.580 I have that on, uh, on, on video. 15:11.580 --> 15:13.260 I actually actually put that up. 15:13.260 --> 15:14.700 She sold every single one of them. 15:14.700 --> 15:16.140 She said she was sick and tired of it. 15:16.140 --> 15:17.580 And she was getting rid of all my cars. 15:17.580 --> 15:19.820 It actually, she left the, uh, the outie at the time. 15:19.820 --> 15:21.340 I should dig that up. 15:21.500 --> 15:22.540 Okay, then, mode itself. 15:22.540 --> 15:28.060 By the way, um, I, I wouldn't mind knowing who a little bit more about you guys, because, 15:28.060 --> 15:30.220 you know, you're talking about the audience make up of the show. 15:30.220 --> 15:33.580 I think we've pretty much ruled out the fact that any women listen. 15:33.580 --> 15:34.700 So it's just us guys. 15:34.700 --> 15:40.140 What are we, are we like middle aged, uh, middle class, guys? 15:41.020 --> 15:42.380 Is that, is that what we are? 15:42.380 --> 15:46.060 Is that who, I mean, it's okay because, um, we're the ones under the most pressure in the 15:46.060 --> 15:46.700 United States. 15:46.700 --> 15:50.940 Okay, granted, I'm upper middle class, but that's just, uh, because I've been around 15:51.020 --> 15:56.140 longer than most of you fuckers, uh, had some time to build up a little, uh, a little nest egg. 15:56.780 --> 16:01.180 But, uh, where the ones that are driving the economy, where the ones that get squeezed, 16:01.180 --> 16:02.300 is, is that it? 16:02.300 --> 16:03.020 Is that us? 16:03.020 --> 16:06.060 So, you know, maybe now, uh, you let me know how old you are. 16:07.100 --> 16:09.740 Um, or just say, uh, yeah, this is it. 16:09.740 --> 16:11.580 So I'd say, uh, love you. 16:12.220 --> 16:13.580 I mean, if I can remember it all. 16:13.580 --> 16:17.340 Uh, love you, mean it, great hair. 16:17.420 --> 16:21.420 Hope you win 43 middle class. 16:22.220 --> 16:23.180 Something like that. 16:23.580 --> 16:25.660 Now, maybe not. 16:47.420 --> 16:48.700 podcasting. 16:49.100 --> 16:58.860 I need to have no idea in, uh, actual bandwidth, how much I'm using, um, as a heavy, uh, podcast listener, 16:58.860 --> 17:05.500 but it's got me thinking that I could in the future be seeing a very large bill. 17:05.500 --> 17:07.100 You know, uh, and this is good. 17:07.100 --> 17:10.620 Uh, I've been thinking about talking about this for a while and I appreciate you calling in 17:10.620 --> 17:12.460 with that, Mr. No last name. 17:13.100 --> 17:16.620 Um, so this is apparently a trial that time Warner, uh, 17:16.700 --> 17:18.780 cable is doing in Beaumont, Texas. 17:18.780 --> 17:22.380 And you can laugh about Beaumont, Texas, but I've been to Beaumont, Texas, okay? 17:22.380 --> 17:26.940 I have been to a roadhouse in Beaumont, Texas, which is, you know, 17:26.940 --> 17:29.420 that's all the story because I never get to talk about Beaumont. 17:29.420 --> 17:32.220 At the time, I had, uh, Adam Curry's top 30 hit list. 17:32.220 --> 17:35.420 It was a syndicated top, you know, basically a countdown show on the radio, 17:35.420 --> 17:37.020 syndicated throughout the U.S. 17:37.020 --> 17:40.620 And one of the stations, I forget the actual station, but it was in Beaumont, Texas. 17:41.340 --> 17:45.420 And, um, you know, um, from time to time, I'd go visit the stations. 17:45.420 --> 17:49.580 Usually around the time they had their summer jam or some other, you know, 17:49.580 --> 17:52.940 thing where not just me, but a whole bunch of artists would come in. 17:52.940 --> 17:54.220 Usually, you know, track artists. 17:54.220 --> 17:58.540 So, uh, you got to think of, uh, Marky Mark and the funky bunch, you know, 17:58.540 --> 18:02.380 so no, no, no musicians or typically no musicians, just, you know, 18:02.380 --> 18:05.340 pure dat tape playing in the singing and dance and on stage. 18:05.340 --> 18:08.300 And I would introduce them and, you know, participate in the summer jam, 18:08.300 --> 18:09.740 everybody, Beaumont, Texas. 18:10.300 --> 18:12.940 And so I arrived in Beaumont, which does have its own, uh, 18:13.020 --> 18:14.460 it does have its own airport. 18:15.180 --> 18:19.420 And I was picked up, uh, I'm trying to think the name of the club, 18:19.420 --> 18:26.220 but the radio station, uh, pick me up in, uh, in a pink Cadillac convertible. 18:26.220 --> 18:28.780 And I swear to God, with the big long horn on the front. 18:28.780 --> 18:30.860 I mean, it was completely authentic. 18:30.860 --> 18:32.700 And the gig was at this roadhouse. 18:32.700 --> 18:35.740 And literally, if you've seen the movie roadhouse where there's chicken wire up on this, 18:35.740 --> 18:40.620 on this, uh, and front of the stage and the stage is really elevated about shoulder height 18:40.700 --> 18:42.940 off of the ground, that's the gig. 18:42.940 --> 18:49.660 And it was necessary because, you know, it got pretty fraughty and crunchy on the, on the floor. 18:49.660 --> 18:53.820 But I'll never forget because of this stage being so high up, uh, 18:53.820 --> 18:57.020 there were these fans on the ceiling ceiling fans. 18:57.020 --> 19:02.380 And, um, you know, if you were basically on the stage, you were, you know, pretty close to the 19:02.380 --> 19:07.180 ceiling. I'm not, not like, uh, you know, I'd say probably about a meter, 19:07.260 --> 19:10.700 yeah, about three feet, uh, from, uh, from the, from the ceiling fans. 19:10.700 --> 19:13.580 And I remember it was, um, uh, EMF. 19:13.580 --> 19:15.900 Remember those guys? You're unbelievable. 19:15.900 --> 19:20.540 And they were unbelievable. They were just out of their mind, you know, that, that was such an explosive 19:20.540 --> 19:24.220 track. And I think it was pretty much all they did, uh, at least that I can remember. 19:24.940 --> 19:27.020 And at one point, you know, you may have heard this. 19:27.020 --> 19:31.660 Oh, I should look this on, I'll be able to go to the, oh, down, down, to, down, to, and the guy gets 19:31.820 --> 19:37.500 up on, um, a piano stool. And jumps into the air. Yeah, you guessed it. 19:37.500 --> 19:41.980 His head went right into the fucking ceiling fan. It was, it was quite a trip. 19:44.220 --> 19:50.140 Excuse me. Anyway, so Beaumont, Texas, they got a real airport. They got real, uh, uh, 19:50.140 --> 19:53.900 people who enjoy popular music. They got internet. So that's where they're testing this thing out. 19:53.900 --> 19:59.500 You know what? I think it's a great idea. Excuse me. That's the morning call. 20:00.220 --> 20:05.340 I think the idea of meter band with this good. The question, of course, is what are we going to 20:05.340 --> 20:10.220 charge for it? I think right now, if you were to actually measure what most people are using in 20:10.220 --> 20:15.980 bandwidth and what they're being charged, you're being overcharged right now. Now, not, that's not to 20:15.980 --> 20:20.620 say that there's, you know, that there's tons of people who use the same pricing. And of course, 20:20.620 --> 20:26.220 they're downloading a lot more. Um, they may have, uh, some peer-to-peer programs running. I mean, 20:26.300 --> 20:33.340 this is a lot more used of, uh, of bandwidth. And, and obviously, it's very, very difficult for, um, 20:34.620 --> 20:40.380 for, uh, ISPs to manage all this traffic, particularly with video traffic. And, you know, I'm not, 20:40.380 --> 20:44.860 you know, sucking up to the big man here. I think I'm just being very realistic because I do know a lot 20:44.860 --> 20:49.660 about how, how traffic is routed and what it takes. And particularly what it costs, because it is just 20:49.660 --> 20:55.660 not free. Now, here's what's interesting. By the way, I like the 4-pay model. And I would say, 20:55.660 --> 21:01.260 you know, just make it, uh, you know, make it meet it all the way, you know, like, like your phone 21:01.260 --> 21:08.620 system, uh, like, uh, like so many things. Um, what I like about the payment is kind of like, um, 21:10.300 --> 21:14.860 like the supermarket, you know, where you get the, uh, you get the supermarket, the shopping cart, 21:14.860 --> 21:19.260 but you have to stick a quarter or in the UK appound. You have to stick a pound into the, 21:19.260 --> 21:23.900 into the little thing for it to unlock from the, uh, from the other, uh, carts from the other 21:23.980 --> 21:29.340 shopping carts. Now, it's only a quarter or pound in, in, as the case may be. And it's not about 21:29.340 --> 21:35.660 you stealing the cart. It's about you bringing the cart back. So it's cleaned up. That saves so much 21:35.660 --> 21:40.060 money and aggravation and hassle for everybody. Because, you know, it's, you know, you just do, you want 21:40.060 --> 21:43.340 your money back. You know, and it's like, uh, for the pound. Yeah, I'm not going to let some other 21:43.340 --> 21:47.100 smuck it in my pound. I'm going to put the, the cart back in the, in the nice little row. I want 21:47.100 --> 21:54.460 to get my pound out. So I, I'd like the, um, the psychological effect paying for something has 21:54.460 --> 22:01.180 on, uh, on people. Now, I think that we're probably overpaying as it is because I know that on the 22:01.180 --> 22:07.340 other end, when I'm sending ban without, when we're, because we pay for ban with to send you the podcast. 22:07.340 --> 22:16.700 So it's a really valid question. Um, for each giga bite transferred, right? Um, we, uh, I can't, 22:16.700 --> 22:21.900 I'm not allowed to tell you the exact price, but it's less than nine cents per gigabyte. Okay, 22:21.900 --> 22:27.020 significantly. Um, and nine cents is pretty much the norm for anyone who's pushing a lot of 22:27.020 --> 22:32.700 volume. You can get at least, uh, I'd say a lot of people are around 25 cents, but you know, we 22:32.700 --> 22:36.940 push so much and the more we push the cheaper it gets, which is the way I believe it should be. 22:37.340 --> 22:43.180 If I'm a huge user of ban with at home, I should be paying less for, you know, for the, 22:43.180 --> 22:48.380 for the overage that I use. So it's the, it's all going to come down to the accounting. Um, 22:48.380 --> 22:53.340 and obviously, you know, it's, they're not going to, I just can't believe that any company with 22:53.340 --> 22:58.620 any brains is going to try and charge you $200 at the end of the month because you use 10 gigabytes 22:58.620 --> 23:05.580 of information, uh, excuse me, uh, because it won't fly and then someone else will come in with cheaper 23:05.740 --> 23:12.780 rates. But that is, that is kind of the industry standard cost of a gigabyte of, of data transfer. 23:12.780 --> 23:18.380 Now, granted, if you go to Akamai or some other content delivery network today, and you say, 23:18.380 --> 23:22.380 all right, how much you're going to charge me? They'll probably start off at $1.25 per gigabyte 23:22.380 --> 23:27.580 transferred. So, you know, just by telling him fuck you, you'll get it down to 75 cents. But then 23:27.580 --> 23:32.060 the rest has really got to come out of volume. Um, so I can actually see where almost like a 23:32.060 --> 23:38.060 price line.com. You could pool your, your bandwidth usage together, buy and bulk, and then distribute 23:38.060 --> 23:41.980 that cheaper to the people who are part of the system. I think that really will work because it 23:41.980 --> 23:47.180 gives everyone a fair shake and everyone's basically paying for what they're using. But the four 23:47.180 --> 23:52.940 pay model, the meter bandwidth will not work at today's prices, which actually are kind of expensive. 23:53.500 --> 23:57.980 Does that make any sense? Uh, I'm hoping I'm starting off a debate here. Well, from the book, I drive 23:57.980 --> 24:17.660 time podcast and the tone ranger. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. Yeah, 24:17.660 --> 24:23.180 hi. This is a message for a Jose Martinez. Mr. Martinez. This is Bonnie from Eagle Appraisal Service 24:23.180 --> 24:29.500 for writer insurance company, or steer motor. All of us this are number 73. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. 24:29.500 --> 24:35.340 Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What the hell is that? Two, two, four, four, five, four, one. Thank you. 24:37.260 --> 24:43.020 That's clearly a wrong number. Oh, man. Let's see. Who's this then? 24:43.020 --> 24:49.340 Adam, I have Charles. Charles. He's over for January. London. I'm very good my friend. Not Charles, 24:49.340 --> 24:54.060 the drunken Londoner, but sober for January only, but he is Charles, our friend from London. 24:54.060 --> 25:00.700 I've been away quite some time. Yeah, and do I can show that is? Because I'm an easy. And also, 25:00.700 --> 25:08.460 the lovely, it like what you gave me has just stopped working. However, I'd saved up and I went out and bought 25:08.460 --> 25:15.580 myself an iPhone yesterday. Oh, I do with a max book as well since saving hard. Charles, I can't believe 25:15.580 --> 25:22.220 you didn't go out and get a Nokia N8010 with my 15% discount. Well, you needed a file. That's right. 25:22.220 --> 25:26.860 It didn't your car get broken into and your laptop and all kinds of, maybe it was. Yeah, I think it was 25:26.860 --> 25:31.260 you. Did all your shit get stolen, man? Anyway, good to have you back on the scene, Charles. What 25:31.260 --> 25:35.820 you got for me? And I'm loving them. So, I've just been listening to the latest show. Don't know 25:35.820 --> 25:40.860 the note which it was on this iPhone. My first podcast on the iPhone. My second phone call on the 25:40.940 --> 25:48.060 iPhone. In fact, excellent. Someone made a comment. I hope Patricia is recovering well. 25:49.100 --> 25:54.940 So, we're having a bit of wait for a long time. I have no idea what that comment was about. 25:54.940 --> 26:00.780 But I just thought I'd drop you a line and say, I also wish Patricia well. I hope that nothing 26:00.780 --> 26:10.620 serious has happened. And, you know, good hair. Well, I hope you win. Yeah, that's sweet to your 26:10.620 --> 26:16.060 Charles. Yeah, no, it was a appendicitis that Patricia had been walking around with for a year, 26:16.060 --> 26:21.580 completely misdiagnosed. We caught it in time. And she went back to the doctor. She's in her recuperation phase. 26:21.580 --> 26:28.060 She's almost back to normal. And the doctor said, you are lucky because it would not have been 26:28.060 --> 26:32.140 much like. It could have happened at any moment, basically. She could have, it could have ruptured in. 26:32.140 --> 26:37.660 Let me tell you, you got more than just a little blowhole of an entry wound there. If that happens, 26:37.660 --> 26:41.500 then you're going to rip you all the way open. So, she's very lucky. We're very happy. And even 26:41.500 --> 26:47.500 though, she's still healing. She is so, oh man, she's so happy about just having this pain gone. 26:47.500 --> 26:52.380 This alien has been taken out of her, which is not, you know, she says that. It's funny because 26:52.460 --> 26:59.500 reminds me because when my mom was very sick before she passed, she also had a really nasty tumor 26:59.500 --> 27:05.020 and they had removed it once. And she also spoke of the alien. So, it was a very weird time for us. 27:05.020 --> 27:09.820 In fact, I'm making sure she goes to visit her mom and her sister to chew out a little bit. 27:09.820 --> 27:13.500 Because of course, you know my wife, right? She's walking around. She's still healing, you know? 27:13.500 --> 27:17.820 And she just can't leave stuff alone. She has to have someone else take care of her. And of course, 27:17.820 --> 27:24.460 so, you know, I can only, I guess I can only do so much. Okay, I've just noticed something here 27:24.460 --> 27:30.140 on the Ableton Live. By the way, I will post this screenshot. I'm using it in combination with 27:30.940 --> 27:34.860 something called SoundBite, which is another Mac program, which basically lets you 27:35.420 --> 27:39.500 put a whole bunch of sound files into racks. So, you can kind of fire them off. Very analogous to 27:39.500 --> 27:45.740 what Casplaster does for the PC. But I'm noticing on Ableton, I can't actually see how long I've 27:45.820 --> 27:52.700 been recording for this. The time, I'm sure there's a way to, there must be a way to 27:52.700 --> 28:01.660 to get the time scale here. Is it 194 something that I've been 194, I can't be minutes, 28:03.180 --> 28:08.060 crap, I gotta figure this thing out. I do like this, this live thing because 28:08.060 --> 28:11.100 you look at it for the first time and you look at the interface and you go, 28:11.900 --> 28:15.900 man, that looks dumb. It looks like something out of Tron. You know, it looks like real 28:15.900 --> 28:23.580 70s colors. It's not that typical, what do you call it? You know, the typical beautiful 28:23.580 --> 28:29.580 rendering of a 24 track mixing board and all the knobs are really rendered beautifully, 28:29.580 --> 28:35.420 quite the opposite. And I understand why now, because in programs like like a 28:35.500 --> 28:42.460 logic studio, logic studio pro or whatever it is, which has all those beautiful interfaces, 28:42.460 --> 28:46.380 there's latency that you can't get rid of and this thing, you could actually control the latency. 28:46.380 --> 28:52.540 If I wanted to, I could actually delay myself or delay any tracking, there's all kinds of stuff in 28:52.540 --> 28:58.700 here. I think Richard Blusty also uses this program and there's all kinds of routing, so tomorrow 28:58.780 --> 29:05.820 on Friday, I'll be able to test the routing from the microphone and from the audio tracks 29:05.820 --> 29:10.620 back in the Skype without feeding Skype back into it. For those of you who have tried that out, 29:10.620 --> 29:16.460 you'll know what I'm talking about. When we do another no agenda show. Okay, let me see, 29:16.460 --> 29:22.140 it's, I can kind of see the time. It's been about 22 minutes. So let's, 29:22.380 --> 29:29.820 um, oh, when we do something sexy for Thursday, early Thursday morning. 29:29.820 --> 29:34.380 Let's bring in Chuck, of course, who was hooked me up with my Grokha Kirstie Hawkshaw, Chuck. 29:34.380 --> 29:44.060 I told my dad Adam's DSU 712. That was over the time. Yeah, you like that? That was excellent. Thank you. 29:44.060 --> 29:52.060 Then that was just out of control anytime. Anytime. So hey, uh, I launched you a little link 29:53.180 --> 29:59.740 for a vid to check. Um, you remember, uh, DRAMs, the show for back in the day, uh, 29:59.740 --> 30:04.940 Kirstie did this awesome remake with, uh, guide of Salt Lake City by the name of Sleep Thief, 30:04.940 --> 30:09.100 and they did a video as well. I didn't see it, man. You guys? I said I'm near in the email from 30:09.660 --> 30:13.740 you need to resend the to me. And I didn't see that. I'd love to see that. I'll have to look again. 30:13.740 --> 30:17.740 Of course, my email is hoes because it's just so much coming in. Please resend. Well, actually, 30:17.740 --> 30:23.500 get a check. Hey, and I just had an inspired thought, um, you know, I was a avid listener of 30:24.220 --> 30:29.500 uh, Natalie Doganti and uh, texture. Yeah. I mean, I loved it. Yes, she was, she was just a sweet 30:29.580 --> 30:36.140 her to live room, you're on the show. And, um, you know, I don't know what your plans are for, um, 30:37.180 --> 30:43.180 for fill in her shoes or, or if you're looking to fill her shoes, but, uh, holy cow, you know, 30:43.180 --> 30:48.540 I know where this is going. I'd show you K. She's a tech girl. She's a geeky girl. She's all 30:48.540 --> 30:54.220 about music. You know, how Natalie was there at the plus TV award, mhm, mhm, mingling with all 30:54.300 --> 30:59.660 the music types. I mean, Jesus, thirsty, you know, those are all those folks. You know, 30:59.660 --> 31:04.140 I'm liking where this is going, Chuck. I'm like, you know, I, I, I, I, I'm always very careful 31:04.140 --> 31:07.580 because she's very dedicated to her music and I don't want to get it on a different career path, 31:07.580 --> 31:12.780 because she's really, really concentrated. Uh, but I am like, are you setting me up, man? 31:12.780 --> 31:19.420 Are you hooked on me up with a personal meeting? I, um, if only I could find a female 31:19.420 --> 31:23.660 British singer for this show I have in mind. And what she's a geeky girl, man? Yeah, there's 31:23.660 --> 31:28.540 a girl. I don't, um, we have someone lined up for texture. Obviously, I think the cat is pretty 31:28.540 --> 31:35.820 much out of the bag. It's, uh, Becky. I don't even want to say any more than that. Um, Becky's 31:35.820 --> 31:41.020 awesome. The only problem with Becky is her timing. Uh, at the very moment, we actually wanted to 31:41.020 --> 31:46.620 bring her in. Uh, she was about to drop, uh, twins, which I believe has happened. So I'll get 31:46.620 --> 31:53.100 an update on that, uh, Becky Warley. Yeah, that's who we have slated, but um, I'm digging your idea 31:53.100 --> 31:57.260 here, Chuck. And she's cool. Yeah, it's cool. So anyway, that's my inspired top for the day, 31:58.300 --> 32:05.420 and a career you rock, uh, who comes once again, man. I love you. Me, 32:05.420 --> 32:15.260 need it. Great, right here. I hope you win. Middle-aged middle class 43. There you go. Hey, the, um, 32:15.340 --> 32:21.180 A, A, I, B, the Air Accident Investigation Branch in the UK has, uh, released an update on British 32:21.180 --> 32:29.580 Airways, uh, flight 38. This is, uh, in addition to their January 17th update, it came in yesterday. 32:30.300 --> 32:34.220 Um, and this is, it's quite interesting. Uh, so let me just get through the Blom Blom Blom Blom 32:34.220 --> 32:39.100 Blom stuff. As previously reported, while the aircraft was stabilized on an iOS approach, which 32:39.100 --> 32:43.740 means it was coming in on instruments, it was on the instrument landing system with autopilot 32:43.740 --> 32:49.740 engaged. The autoprust system commanded an increase in thrust from both engines. The engines 32:49.740 --> 32:57.020 both initially responded after about three seconds. The thrust of the right engine reduced some 32:57.020 --> 33:02.140 eight seconds later, the thrust reduced on the left engine to a similar level. This is interesting, 33:02.140 --> 33:06.860 because, um, although I've never flown a triple seven, I'm pretty sure that if, um, if both 33:06.860 --> 33:13.020 engines, uh, they throttled up, but then the right engine reduced after about three seconds, that plane 33:13.100 --> 33:18.300 is going to veer off course. So that could have set a whole bunch of things into motion, which, um, 33:18.300 --> 33:22.860 uh, you know, certainly the pilot would have probably disengaged the autopilot at that point 33:22.860 --> 33:27.820 and taken over manual control, because it'd be, uh, ready to miss the runway, not not coming 33:27.820 --> 33:33.020 up short, but left or right, just missing it, which could have also affected his, um, his glide path 33:33.020 --> 33:39.020 on the speed and, and could have, um, you know, um, negatively impacted the glide that he was trying 33:39.020 --> 33:43.740 to put into, make a, a smoother landing than what to, took place. So some eight seconds later, 33:43.740 --> 33:47.660 the thrust reduced on the left engine to a similar level. The engines did not shut down, 33:48.540 --> 33:54.460 and both engines continued to produce thrust at an engine speed above flight idle, but less than 33:54.460 --> 34:00.460 the commanded thrust. Very interesting, uh, which means, you know, uh, obviously you're still 34:00.460 --> 34:05.660 going to kind of come up short, but with this, uh, um, with the difference between the engines, 34:05.980 --> 34:11.020 that could have really screwed up the glide path. So all possible scenarios that could explain 34:11.020 --> 34:15.180 the thrust reduction and continued lack of response to the engines to throttle lever, inputs are 34:15.180 --> 34:20.620 being examined in close cooperation with Boeing, Rolls Royce, British Airways. Interesting. I love the 34:20.620 --> 34:26.300 fact that these guys are setting out, uh, all of these updates. That's, uh, that's something the, uh, 34:26.300 --> 34:31.100 the NTSP, I don't think they do that do it that way. And, uh, and it's important because we need to 34:31.180 --> 34:38.780 all of these aircraft are safe or not. All right. Um, let's do, um, no, um, you know, tomorrow, 34:38.780 --> 34:42.940 which I may tape tonight, we got to get deep into some stuff like the Fed. We've got all kinds 34:42.940 --> 34:50.380 of banking stuff going crazy. Uh, we had this rogue trader, uh, who, um, at the, um, what's the, 34:50.380 --> 34:55.500 the French bank? Hmm, I can't remember the name of the, uh, I probably have it written down here. 34:55.500 --> 34:59.500 A whole lot of my notes. It's another thing I got to set up. I'll tell you about the second 34:59.580 --> 35:04.220 hold on. Let me just see what the rest of the new stories are. No, I didn't even put it in there. 35:04.220 --> 35:09.820 Anyway, something like, uh, almost five billion pounds that they're writing off. It's like seven, 35:09.820 --> 35:18.220 seven or eight billion dollars. A rogue trader. Yeah. I'd say, um, you know what I'm missing? 35:18.220 --> 35:21.740 And this is the thing that I am going to see if I can score that while I'm out here. 35:22.300 --> 35:26.540 Is I want to control surface? And what that is, because now of course, I don't have a mixing board 35:27.500 --> 35:31.500 and even, uh, with my previous setup, I have a mixer so I can control the levels and 35:31.500 --> 35:35.900 and twist them with my left hand while I'm doing all of the selecting of what I'm playing with my 35:35.900 --> 35:42.060 right hand on the computer. Uh, but of course, now I only have one control input for both function. 35:42.060 --> 35:46.700 So I need a control surface, which has some sliders and a control surface, basically all it does is it 35:46.700 --> 35:53.500 just sends MIDI commands to the program so that I can then map these, uh, these volume, uh, 35:53.580 --> 35:58.940 faders, these sliders, as you might recognize them, uh, to the individual channel. So, uh, 35:58.940 --> 36:02.620 I'd be able to train, you know, to fade my mic up and down. I'll be able to mix this on the 36:02.620 --> 36:08.140 sounds a little bit better. Uh, it's just a lot of stuff I got to work on. All right. I do have 36:08.140 --> 36:13.900 one more song, which came to us from a mashuptown.com, which is so beautiful for a Thursday morning 36:13.900 --> 36:20.220 where the sun is just coming up in San Francisco. It's just raising up over the bed. I think you'll 36:20.220 --> 36:25.260 like this one. It'll get you into that mood by the bay, everybody. 36:38.750 --> 38:38.720 [ Music ] 38:38.720 --> 38:43.720 Those in the know will recognize mini-ripperton and John Legend. 38:43.720 --> 38:46.720 Brought to you by mashuptown.com. 38:46.720 --> 38:48.720 Oh, what a great track that is. 38:48.720 --> 38:49.720 Love you. 38:49.720 --> 38:50.720 Love you. 38:50.720 --> 38:51.720 Love you. 38:51.720 --> 38:52.720 Love you. 38:52.720 --> 38:53.720 Love you. 38:53.720 --> 38:54.720 Love you. 38:54.720 --> 38:55.720 Love you. 38:55.720 --> 38:56.720 Love you. 38:56.720 --> 38:58.720 Love you. 38:58.720 --> 38:59.720 Love you. 38:59.720 --> 39:00.720 Love you. 39:00.720 --> 39:01.720 Love you. 39:01.720 --> 39:02.720 And that is love it. 39:02.720 --> 39:05.040 Hey, it's almost seven o'clock now. 39:05.040 --> 39:07.720 And that means it's time for our sales call. 39:07.720 --> 39:10.720 So I'm going to get on the phone with the sales Present. 39:10.720 --> 39:14.720 Let me know what you thought of the sound if it works for you. 39:14.720 --> 39:18.720 Obviously, I still got some bugs to work out, some kinks and stuff. 39:18.720 --> 39:24.720 But I think overall I'm pretty pleased and all the still lot more experimentation to go through. 39:24.720 --> 39:26.700 Whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop-whop, 39:26.700 --> 39:27.900 told you about the N800's. 39:27.900 --> 39:32.480 Of course, go Daddy, if you want an awesome deal on a domain name, in fact, you can't get 39:32.480 --> 39:33.440 better anywhere else. 39:33.440 --> 39:37.920 There's a couple of code you can use all the DSC, DSC12 or three. 39:37.920 --> 39:41.820 The standard one, DSC3 is if you just want to get a domain name, real quick down, down 39:41.820 --> 39:46.380 and dirty cheap for 695, DSC3 is your checkout code. 39:46.380 --> 39:50.040 Atomoodpodshow.com, dailystorescode.com, I will get the show notes together, of course, 39:50.040 --> 39:54.640 that's another part of the process, that is not as streamlined as with cast blaster. 39:54.640 --> 39:58.960 So I got to figure out how that works and what the heck? 39:58.960 --> 40:00.960 Love you, mean it. 40:00.960 --> 40:04.040 Great hair, hope you win, live life with passion 40:04.040 --> 40:05.040 and enjoy your freedom. 40:05.040 --> 40:06.760 I'll talk to you tomorrow for the Fubar Friday. 40:06.760 --> 40:07.760 Bye, everybody. 40:07.760 --> 40:10.000 Another Pajo podcast. 40:10.000 --> 40:11.400 Stick it in your ear. 40:11.400 --> 40:14.400 I'll talk to you tomorrow for the Fubar Friday.