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Wow, hey, happy, that's great
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Hey, aren't you supposed to
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Oh yeah, big hair, big show, big
time.

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Love ya, but no homo, Delta's
here at Charlie.

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Seven, two, one.

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With 15 bags of squanders stuck
in our pants.

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Sugar!

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And 15 bags of toilet paper
hanging from our cracks.

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We don't need no stinkin' sugar.

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I like a thing I'm right.

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For the future.

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We're gonna hold on to his day.

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He's very, very.

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[ Music ]

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All the things about me, you're
the way I want.

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Got to tell ya. I built up quite
a rapport with DJ Schmolley over
the past couple of weeks.

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Of course, played his match me
on Medeo, so on the Fubar
Friday.

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And start checking out some more
of this stuff. Awesome. I love
this.

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I can't drop upside down.

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DJ Schmolley kicking off episode
number 721 of the daily source
code.

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It is Monday, February 11th,
2008.

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Another beautiful day outside of
the United Kingdom.

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Blue skies, no clouds, almost no
wind.

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Again, what the hell am I doing
here instead of flying around?

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That's a very good question.

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You know, actually I was very
excited over the weekend.

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Finally, everything came
together on this quest that I've
been on for.

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I got to say at least four and a
half years probably or four.

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Yeah, about four years.

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I've literally been trying to
find the all in one, one box
solution for recording

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everything I need to on one
computer.

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And all I really want is I want
to be able to just put a
microphone in,

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put headphones on and everything
else should just work, all the
routing, all the,

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you know, all this external gear
that I normally carry around.

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Of course, the biggest problem
was latency.

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The minute you start processing
your voice with electronic or
software,

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essentially, it then it builds
in an automatic delay.

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And this delay can make you talk
funny.

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So it looks like a combination
of a couple things.

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Well, the guys over at Apple, I
got to give them big ass props.

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No, let me back up.

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I have tried everything to do
this.

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I've tried it with previous
power books.

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I've tried it with Windows
machines.

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I've tried it with external
recording devices and audio
hijack pro.

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And of course, all of that
eventually led when we started
off in like 2004 before we

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would encounter numbers on the
show.

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That eventually led to the
collaboration with Mike for
state that turned into cast

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plaster on Windows.

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That's the whole reason I moved
to the Windows platform.

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It looks like the guys in
Cupertino have really gotten
together with with the latest
OS.

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And with the, I guess the dual
core horsepower that these new
MacBooks have.

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Because finally everything is
there.

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This whole concept of this, I
guess it's the core audio team
at Mac who put all this
together.

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The concept of aggregate devices
being able to route through
virtual devices.

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Add onto that the smartness of
the guys over at Ableton who
make Ableton live.

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Who have essentially
concentrated 100% on speed and
processing and ease of use.

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And not a lot on the interface
to very flat interface.

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No spiffy knobs, no high end
renderings of something.

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It looks like a 24 track mixer
or anything like that.

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Lots of flexibility to build up
the interface the way you want
it.

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Why the fuck is the dog barking
while I'm talking?

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It rotates me.

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Oh, I know why it's the window
washer guys here.

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He's warning us.

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He's not actually barking.

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So everything now works inside
the Mac.

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I can route to Skype and back
again.

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External applications have to be
fair.

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I'm also using another program
called SoundBiteBiteSpelt as
BYTE as in a computer bite.

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Which essentially lets me load
up a whole bunch of anything.

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Well, anything I guess, you
know, MP3s, wave, AFFs, GS3
files that come off of cell
phones.

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You can just drop it into
essentially it looks like a
cartridge rack.

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You can fire stuff up and you
can pause it.

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And that's it's a good program.

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It's not quite the way I'd like
it.

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But it's certainly fulfills the
main need.

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And now I've hooked up the
Yamaha workstation.

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The Alpha Whiskey's 16 golf
older listeners remember that
one.

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And I'm using it basically as a
MIDI controller.

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So now when I move the
microphone fader up and down
like that,

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I actually, I'm not actually
controlling the output of the
microphone into the computer.

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I'm controlling the live
software.

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And I actually see the faders
move on the screen,

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or at least the indicators that
are indicating the fader.

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So anyway, now I've found, I
forget the name of it.

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I found this beautiful little
portable battery operated MIDI
driven.

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And by the way, is MIDI
undervalued or what?

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This MIDI driven six port fader
bay.

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So I can take that on the road.

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And then all I basically need is
that as an external device,

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very lightweight, not a whole
another computer to carry
around.

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My microphone, my headphones,
and I'm done.

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And it's expandable so I can add
on another one of those panels

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where I can just, I can map
button so I could fire up songs

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and little bits and openings and
jingles, et cetera.

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It's really come together.

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So far, in fact, now I'm ready.

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I think I'm ready, or just about
after this kind of stabilizes.

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I'm sure that it all works.

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I'm going to go for one of these
live situations.

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I think that there's some good
services out there

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that offer you a phone bridge
and you can mute and unmute
people

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and it's a chat room.

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And I really wanted to give it a
try.

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Especially after hearing this
comment from J-Mac over at hood
hype.

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I'm just wanted to check in and
drop you a message.

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You know, we did our first live
show through Eustream.

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We just did audio only in over
the year.

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And I tell you what, and there's
something to be said about doing
a live chat

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and inviting people to call in
live when you're interviewing
somebody

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right there.

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And when you're spending music
and you get live comments

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of what people think, based on
the people coming out

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and dropping off, you can see
real time what people like and
dislike.

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Because a lot of people are
really too lazy to post a
message on the blog

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or to email, or you can call for
that matter when you give them a
free phone number.

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Yeah, this is essentially the
real difference between
podcasting and live radio.

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It's about the time driven
nature of it.

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When you have to tune in,
there's certain time to get
something

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and I think J-Mac is going to
talk about how that happens when
you miss stuff.

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You know, having people respond
in real time, but also a finite
starting and ending point.

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You know, like this morning,
it's like I spent at least an
hour

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ticking around after I got my
perfect setup.

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It actually wouldn't start up.

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And I was so ready to
pontificate too.

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But this of course was because
my Mac needed it's weekly
reboot.

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Very different from Windows,
where it's a couple times a day

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because something with the MIDI
court server was all messed up.

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And by the way, I still got to
give props to the core audio
team

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because I've been messing with
this thing for at least a week

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and amaze that I hadn't had to
reboot before then.

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Anyway, let's check in with
J-Mac again.

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Let's see what he has on his
experiences with doing who'd
hype live.

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Anyway, so which brings me to my
next question.

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I listen to Howard Stern
religiously every single damn
day during the week.

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I get 30 minutes to listen to
the show on serious satellite.

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Luckily for me, they looped the
show all day.

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If I'm lucky, I won't catch it
in the same segment.

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I was listening to it on and I
get 230 minute pieces of the 4-5
hour show.

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My problem is, you know, I want
to hear the whole damn thing.

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I just don't have the ability
to.

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Well, you know, that's
interesting because I think if
you listen to Howard Stern,

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sometimes he goes on very long
rants.

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And that will carry out a thread
throughout those three or four
hours.

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But very often they regurgitate
or repeat stuff.

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Certainly every other morning
show that I know over the United
States does this

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because the audience flips over
every 15 minutes.

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And honestly, I don't think it's
necessary.

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And you don't have to, I think
you can get everything out in
under an hour.

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But of course, it's a little
different because it's a live
situation.

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They're just passing the time.

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They've got to do something.

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So it is very interesting.

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Sorry about that.

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And I'm not quite sure.

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Well, I got to think about it
actually.

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I got to think about if the
Howard Stern show has changed
dramatically

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since they're on serious or not.

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I'm sure that they were thinking
a lot more about repeating
certain items

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and certain news bits when they
were still on free to air
broadcast.

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So if I can put it on my iPod,
you know,

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via podcasts, subscription to
iTunes or whatever,

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that would be optimal.

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But I'm sure there's advertising
issues with that.

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Copyright issues with that.

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Yeah, obviously they can't be
tracked and all that shit.

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So my thing is,

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it's all about the music.

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That's the only reason why you
can't,

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and how much music do they play?

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The Howard Stern show doesn't
play very much music.

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That's just the control issue
then.

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I think it's just because they
don't want their shit out on the
internet.

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And it's probably a part of the
contracts

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so that it remains exclusive to
serious.

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Did you see the price?

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You know, why can't we create
something

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that there's a happy medium
between all of it?

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You know,

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I guess satellite radio would
have to be free

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in order for podcasting to be a
legitimate medium

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married with the satellite radio

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because it doesn't work if the
podcast is out there for free.

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Yeah, there's an interesting
article

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on the financial times I read
over the weekend about.

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There's some shifts going on
here

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when it comes to infrastructure

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because you mentioned serious
satellite would have to be for
free.

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Well, unfortunately,

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they don't really know how to
sell advertising on serious.

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The sponsorships, yes,

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but real advertising spot
advertising,

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no, because they don't,

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I don't think they qualify for
the arbitron ratings.

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That's what you need.

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You have to appear in the
ratings book

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which makes it very, very
complicated.

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And on top of that,

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keeping two satellites in orbit
continuously is an extremely
expensive business.

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Same thing going on here with
digital audio broadcast,

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better known as DAB,

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where this company has invested
very heavily

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in all this architecture and
infrastructure

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so that they can actually
deliver

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multi channels of digital
pristine clear quality audio.

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But the bottom line is

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only 1% of all people have
digital audio broadcast
capabilities

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in their car.

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So unless the government says,

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we're going to stop all regular
FM

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and AM broadcast which they will
never do.

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That's just not going to be the
same type of

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silo-driven pipe business model

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that people have to have to
listen to

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one particular type of
architecture in order to

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be able to listen to it all.

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Now there's just so much choice.

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So when you look at the
percentage of people who have an
iPod

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or other MP3 device,

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I think it's pretty clear where
the future

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is going to be.

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But it's open.

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There's no restrictions.

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There's no one who has the lock
on the frequencies.

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Or people are pirating.

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They'll show out there for free.

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Damn it.

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There's got to be a way to do
this.

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So I don't know, man.

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I think that's the battle with
serious satellite

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trying to get them to accept a
free medium.

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Now it's about money.

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If somebody's going to be paying
money,

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why would they fucking pay if
they're

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can download it on the internet?

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But the fact is that.

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Exactly.

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So anyway, my question is,

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or my idea is,

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we need to come up with
something that

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allows people to do it all.

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Complete 100% freedom.

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Podcasting offers that,

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but man, if the live feed

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that just has so many cool

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extra things to it, man,

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I love it.

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I wish we could do it all, man.

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I really do.

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What are your thoughts on it?

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I would really like to hear it.

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I know it's all about sucked a
man,

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fuck bro.

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Podcast media.

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It's all about violence.

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Sure.

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I was bringing a whole hell of a
lot

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to a show.

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So we'll look at what you're
doing.

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I'll be curious to hear your
thoughts.

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Thank you.

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Okay.

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Jay Mag, look at what you're
doing, man.

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You're doing essentially.

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Although it's not quite
streaming live

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onto portable devices,

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but it will.

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I mean, it can only take five or
ten years

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and we'll be there and then the
internet

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will be ubiquitous.

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You'll be able to pick it up

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on almost any portable device.

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And then you can do a live show.

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The question is,

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what is the audience really want
at that point?

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It seems that, you know,

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live broadcast is still works on
radio.

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How many listeners did you have?

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That's what I'd like to know.

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So I think it can work both
ways.

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One is the way I do it,

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which is essentially you call in

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with your phone comments.

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And we have a quasi interaction,

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which of course is
intellectually

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not quite very stimulating for
either party,

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but I think it does work

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and doing it for a while.

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And then, of course,

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the other way is to do a live
show

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that people who can participate

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and I think you'll find that a

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group will be able to tune in

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and if you have some,

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you know,

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if you can set up a schedule for
yourself,

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we can do it at the same time
every day.

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Of course, for me,

17:28.500 --> 17:29.500
that's a double whammy,

17:29.500 --> 17:30.500
because you know,

17:30.500 --> 17:31.500
I'd love to do it in the morning

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or in the afternoon,

17:32.500 --> 17:33.500
or the evening,

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and one particular time zone

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is going to be different

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all over the world.

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And the Charlie listeners,

17:37.500 --> 17:38.500
just looking at that survey,

17:38.500 --> 17:39.500
man,

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we're from all over the place.

17:41.500 --> 17:43.500
Anyway,

17:43.500 --> 17:44.500
to be continued,

17:44.500 --> 17:47.500
and right into something

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I've been saving up a whole
bunch of comments

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about this is the

17:50.500 --> 17:52.500
metered bandwidth trial

17:52.500 --> 17:53.500
in Beaumont, Texas,

17:53.500 --> 17:54.500
time Warner is doing.

17:54.500 --> 17:55.500
And of course,

17:55.500 --> 17:56.500
lots of people have opinions on
it,

17:56.500 --> 17:59.500
and let's listen to a couple of
them.

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Hey,

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what's going on?

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Hey, I'm your Beaumont.

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This is David,

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your friend,

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and Bobbi, Texas.

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Hey, David,

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call you every once in a while.

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You know,

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the big thing is that we got

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compounds now for eyelids,

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and time Warner was through.

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I didn't know they were still in
the time

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and the Beaumont market.

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Yeah, see,

18:20.500 --> 18:22.500
I've been looking for someone
who lives in Beaumont, Texas,

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so I can actually find out

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what the metered trial is all
about,

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and how they're thinking of
charging,

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and is there a limit you get,

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and then you pay over,

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I mean,

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all the questions that are just
completely unanswered.

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That's interesting news to hear.

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It's metered stuff,

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garbage.

18:37.500 --> 18:38.500
I just read a pay for the
highway,

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and you know,

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just get where I need to go.

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Not a mean.

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Uh-huh.

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In fact,

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we talked about that,

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that very topic about paying
more on the highway,

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if you have a bigger rig,

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if you're using up more of the
road,

18:54.500 --> 18:55.500
I eat,

18:55.500 --> 18:56.500
if you're using up more
bandwidth

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or the only guy who can answer
that

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is our very own trucker time.

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You know, Adam,

19:00.500 --> 19:01.500
Tom Wiles here,

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aka Trucker Tom,

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trucks do indeed pay a lot more

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to use the roads than cars or
motorcycles.

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Now, I'm a company driver.

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I'm making wages just to drive a
company truck,

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so I'm not paying out of my
pocket,

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but I do know that the average
truck,

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and this is kind of an estimate,

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is paying probably 15 to 20,000
dollars

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a year.

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Rolling drive.

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Various fuel taxes,

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road use taxes,

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registration fees,

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so on and so forth.

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It's very expensive to operate
truck.

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One of the problems I see is
that

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it's inconsistent from state to
state.

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California, for example,

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if you own a car in California,

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it's going to be more expensive

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than if you own a car in
Arkansas

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for where I live, for example.

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You know,

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if they could make it consistent

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for the immediate bandwidth,

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if they could make it consistent

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all across the country,

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it might be a good system,

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but what I'm afraid of is you

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end up with different prices for
different regions.

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Something's going to have to be
done.

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It's going to be interesting to
see

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what the results are of the

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experiment that they're
conducting in Beaumont.

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You can find my podcast at
Trucker Tom podcast.com.

20:18.500 --> 20:22.500
You can find my HD video podcast
at Trucker Tom HD.com.

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I'm talking also find my video
podcast

20:25.500 --> 20:28.500
as of February 1st on Tivo.

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You can find me on the Tivo
Guide.

20:32.500 --> 20:36.500
You can check that out at
TivoCast. podshow.com.

20:36.500 --> 20:38.500
All right Tom. Yo.

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You love you, me and it.

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Sorry about the crackling there.

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I've said my latency filter.

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But I can't change it while I'm
recording.

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So if you hear a crackle once in
a while,

20:48.500 --> 20:50.500
do not be alarmed.

20:50.500 --> 20:52.500
It's not the wire on your
earbud.

20:52.500 --> 20:56.500
So we heard last week from
Belgium listener

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who talked about his bandwidth
constantly in the cost

20:58.500 --> 21:00.500
and his situation.

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Of course, I would venture to
say that the infrastructure in
Europe

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and in the east and the far east
is a lot better in the United
States.

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Of course, this is only
US-centric conversation.

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I am here during a long time
listener since Episode 1.

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I'm calling with some info about
the meter bandwidth

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discussion you were talking
about.

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Here in Holland, I pay 20 euros
each month for a full limited
data pack.

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And usually I'm around about 60
to 60 gigs a month.

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Wow.

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20 euros for unlimited
bandwidth.

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Are you sure there's not little
asterix there?

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That says that there is a limit.

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Check on your bill or your
contract

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and get back to me, man.

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Because that sounds almost too
good to be true.

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And you've got 20 megabits down
one megabit up.

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Oh, I've got wood for your
situation.

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It's 20 down and one up.

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So it's a bit cheaper than the
Belgian guys.

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A little democratic for me.

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On the bus driver, a city bus
driver here in Holland.

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I'm 30 years wife two kids.

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Yeah, just a normal guy.

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I'm also trying to start my
podcast called talking about
being a bus driver.

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Yeah.

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I'm searching for info.

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If you can help me do this.

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And yeah.

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Fuller rep deal.

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I love you no homo.

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I wish you a good day.

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Hi, boy.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, let me know about your
contract.

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If it's really true that there's
no, no cap on what you can use
on a monthly basis.

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Usually there's a little, a
little fine print there that you
got to take a look at.

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But, you know, it's Europe.

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Wouldn't surprise me.

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Interesting.

23:03.500 --> 23:05.500
The idea of a bus driver doing a
podcast.

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That what I would do is I would
rig my, my, my set up there.

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And yeah, I'm sure you have lots
of interesting conversations
with people.

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That's what I would be doing.

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I'd be recording that.

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But then again, I'm not a bus
driver.

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Not everyone's happy with this.

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All right.

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I'm curious.

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Officially lost your freaking
mind.

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About meter bandwidth.

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Come on.

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There's a big, big hole in your
theory.

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And the big hole is this.

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The cell phone industry, which
you keep using as an example.

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Lowering rates and how it's much
cheaper now.

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Is suffering from competition.

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There are four or five, maybe
even seven major carriers of
cell phones in the United
States.

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Yeah, but my friend, it didn't
start out that way.

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Now, did it?

23:51.500 --> 23:54.500
It took quite a while for there
to be some real competition in
cell phones.

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There were competing systems
today.

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There is still competing
systems.

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Well, you can't use one phone on
another network.

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And there's all kinds of
downsides and competitive
measures that it just took time.

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You know, it takes time.

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And I believe that anyone should
at least have a DSL option, a
cable mode of option.

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And then why not even a
dedicated line?

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You know, like a local unbundled
local loop.

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It does take some effort, you
know, depending on where you
are.

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Companies aren't going to set up
unless it's going to pay off.

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So you've got to create, you
know, groups of people that say,
hey, we're willing to look at an
alternative.

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That's how it works.

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Competition doesn't just show
up.

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You've kind of got to work for
it.

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That competition drives down
prices.

24:44.500 --> 24:49.500
The problem is even in major
metropolitan areas like where I
live in Seattle.

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I still cannot get anything but
contest for my provider.

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They will never drop my rate.

24:56.500 --> 24:59.500
So you can't get a DSL
connection through the phone
line.

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I had to find that hard to
believe simply because they
don't have any competition.

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And as long as the, you know,
infrastructure built on a wired
system.

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There's no incentive for
competition because the output
in order to run more wire is so
expensive.

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That unless you're 18T on East
Coast and already have an
infrastructure there, which they
don't have here.

25:18.500 --> 25:19.500
And there's no competition.

25:19.500 --> 25:21.500
There's no reason for
competition.

25:21.500 --> 25:25.500
There's no incentive for someone
to stream a new wire because it
would be too expensive.

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So therefore, meter bandwidth is
only going to host people like
me who have no other options.

25:29.500 --> 25:30.500
I can't get DSL.

25:30.500 --> 25:33.500
I guess I could get a cable or a
satellite modem.

25:33.500 --> 25:36.500
I had a choice in that, but it's
not really competition.

25:36.500 --> 25:38.500
Competition is what's going to
drive down cost.

25:38.500 --> 25:40.500
That's what drove down cost to
the philanthropy.

25:40.500 --> 25:41.500
Love you.

25:41.500 --> 25:42.500
I mean it.

25:42.500 --> 25:43.500
Great hair.

25:43.500 --> 25:44.500
Hope you win.

25:44.500 --> 25:45.500
Love you.

25:45.500 --> 25:46.500
No home.

25:46.500 --> 25:47.500
Emma.

25:47.500 --> 25:48.500
You know what?

25:48.500 --> 25:49.500
It's very interesting.

25:49.500 --> 25:50.500
You can't get DSL.

25:50.500 --> 25:54.500
It seems to me like someone
technically it should be
possible.

25:54.500 --> 25:58.500
There may not be another
offering there, but technically
it should be possible.

25:58.500 --> 26:01.500
And I think that's where you
have to go.

26:01.500 --> 26:07.500
So in the meantime, I'm still
trying to find someone who lives
in Beaumont, Texas, to find out
what's going on.

26:07.500 --> 26:13.500
So if you remember, consider
that maybe the reason why you're
not hearing from anyone in
Beaumont is because

26:13.500 --> 26:18.500
the internet service is so
expensive that they can't afford
to download podcasts.

26:19.500 --> 26:22.500
No, I hadn't considered it, but
it's a good point.

26:22.500 --> 26:25.500
I had a list of Paul and
Littleton Colorado.

26:25.500 --> 26:30.500
A long time listener called in a
couple of times, I think.

26:30.500 --> 26:32.500
I can remember anyways.

26:32.500 --> 26:35.500
But anyways, I was driving home
listening.

26:35.500 --> 26:38.500
Episode 719.

26:38.500 --> 26:42.500
We started talking about the
bandwidth issues.

26:42.500 --> 26:45.500
It was a limited or meter
bandwidth.

26:45.500 --> 26:47.500
And I had a question.

26:47.500 --> 26:54.500
I believe that color from
Belgium was saying is like a
year old per gig over on that
meter.

26:54.500 --> 27:02.500
When I started thinking, if they
started doing like a dollar
here, for every gig over the, a
lot of,

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most consumers will think that's
pretty fair deals, not knowing
that they're making in the
moment 90 cents.

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On the dollar of profit per gig
that you go over.

27:13.500 --> 27:20.500
So just wondering if you think
that's fair, if, if, I don't
know if any, if anything can be
done about that,

27:20.500 --> 27:27.500
that's just my thought that
they'd probably price it right
around the dollar on an overage
charge.

27:27.500 --> 27:38.500
But I also was thinking, have
you tried or thought of
contacting someone directly from
a well time Warner about the
pilot in Beaumont since no one

27:38.500 --> 27:41.500
from Beaumont has called or
contacted you.

27:41.500 --> 27:44.500
You know, that's such a good
point.

27:44.500 --> 27:52.500
And honestly, I don't think
there's a reporter out there
that has taken the effort that
has made the effort to actually
call time Warner and ask exactly
that.

27:52.500 --> 27:54.500
I know I certainly haven't.

27:54.500 --> 27:57.500
We do seem, you know, this is a
culturally very interesting.

27:57.500 --> 28:06.500
We seem very, very much at ease
to copy paste news reports and
then add our own opinion and
yell and rant,

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actually do the work that it
probably should should be put
into something to affect any
kind of change or getting
information.

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We're just a bunch of lazy
bastards.

28:16.500 --> 28:17.500
Man, you're so right.

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Okay.

28:18.500 --> 28:23.500
Does anyone know if anyone has
actually asked time Warner about
this G would a novel question?

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Just be kind of interested to
see if maybe someone from their
PR department will be even
willing to talk about this on
your show.

28:32.500 --> 28:33.500
There's a couple of thoughts.

28:33.500 --> 28:36.500
See if I can get this sign off
to incorrect.

28:36.500 --> 28:37.500
Here you go.

28:37.500 --> 28:41.500
31 Italian American losing hair.

28:41.500 --> 28:43.500
Hope I win too.

28:43.500 --> 28:45.500
And, uh, Guillermo Adam.

28:45.500 --> 28:46.500
Yeah.

28:46.500 --> 28:47.500
No, almost.

28:47.500 --> 28:48.500
Guillermo.

28:48.500 --> 28:49.500
Thank you very much.

28:49.500 --> 28:50.500
I appreciate a good point.

28:50.500 --> 28:52.500
How stupid am I not even think
of that?

28:52.500 --> 28:57.500
I'm going to hunt around on
Google News and see if anyone
actually spoke to a time Warner
representative.

28:57.500 --> 28:58.500
All right.

28:58.500 --> 28:59.500
I'm sick and tired of this.

29:00.500 --> 29:09.500
Oh, you know, I've always heard
that Carmen Tyler has such a
beautiful voice that she could
read the phone book and make it
sound good.

29:09.500 --> 29:12.500
So I think that makes me a karma
haul like I'm not sure.

29:12.500 --> 29:23.500
With anger at the thought that
Adam Curry wanted naked pictures
of this beautiful perfect
angelic pure Carmen that we love
listening to so much.

29:23.500 --> 29:24.500
It just angers me.

29:24.500 --> 29:31.500
I got thinking, you know, you're
real gift to all of us via these
little podcast isn't just a cute
half hour or so sweet fun
chatter.

29:31.500 --> 29:32.500
No.

29:32.500 --> 29:37.500
No, the real appeal of Carmen
Tyler is the positive spirit
that you have, Carmen.

29:37.500 --> 29:40.500
Even though you've never sent me
the naked picture.

29:40.500 --> 29:41.500
Make pictures.

29:41.500 --> 29:42.500
I assure you.

29:42.500 --> 29:43.500
You have the fuck.

29:43.500 --> 29:45.500
Well, he keeps them to himself.

29:45.500 --> 29:46.500
Because I know I would.

29:46.500 --> 29:48.500
If I had naked pictures of
Carmen.

29:49.500 --> 29:56.500
That's K-R-M-Y-N-K-A-S-T dot pot
show dot com.

29:56.500 --> 29:58.500
Oh, indeed.

29:58.500 --> 29:59.500
You know, I'm going out to LA.

29:59.500 --> 30:04.500
I think in the next couple of
weeks from maybe a day or two
and I can't wait.

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If I'm lucky, I can hook up with
Carmen Tyler who's out there.

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Sir, ladies from the pod safe
music network, think you'll like
it.

30:12.500 --> 30:14.500
For it in love.

30:14.500 --> 30:17.500
Oh, I think she's sending me
messages again.

30:17.500 --> 30:27.500
In a day, she don't know what to
do.

30:27.500 --> 32:42.500
[ Music ]

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I wonder how she records that.

32:53.500 --> 32:58.500
I wonder if it was recorded with
the musicians in the room or she
did this in her.

32:58.500 --> 33:05.500
I have this visual of her
creating this in her apartment
on like garage band.

33:05.500 --> 33:10.500
It says it's a demo, but damn
it's straight up for me, man.

33:10.500 --> 33:13.500
Carmen Tyler for bitten love
from the pod safe music network.

33:13.500 --> 33:15.500
And of course, you will find a
link to that.

33:15.500 --> 33:19.500
And everything else discussed in
the show notes at
dailysourcecode.com.

33:19.500 --> 33:20.500
Okay, Adam.

33:20.500 --> 33:26.500
In the Jewish religion, there
are two crimes that are
considered unforgivable.

33:26.500 --> 33:31.500
Murder and adultery because they
can never be taken back.

33:31.500 --> 33:38.500
I think the Carpander's mashup
that you played in daily source
code number 720.

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Could qualify as a third.

33:40.500 --> 33:44.500
Dude, that thing was fucking
awful.

33:44.500 --> 33:46.500
Okay, just plain fucking awful.

33:46.500 --> 33:52.500
That thing, it's a musical
abortion that needs to be a code
hanger before you can play it
again.

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Now, I understand that some guy
called in and he wanted to hear
yesterday once more by the
Carpander's,

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which in itself is about as lame
as Stephen Hawking on a
stairmaster.

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But you, you proceed to play
this thing.

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Now, I love the mashups on
mashup.com.

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I love the mashups you play.
They're very clever. They're
cool.

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They kind of, they tickle
various spots in my cerebral
cortex that I find to be
satisfying.

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But this Carpander's mashup, you
know what it's like?

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It's like getting a blowjob from
somebody's grandma.

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I mean, it may feel good for
like the first one or two
seconds,

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but then after that you're
filled with more loathing than
ten years of therapy can cure.

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This, of course, is
hypothetical. I've never been
blown by anybody's grandma,

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but I'd like to think I keep an
open mind.

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Anyway, please, just, Adam,
repeat after me.

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Okay, I hear you.

34:46.500 --> 34:47.500
Please say this.

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Okay.

34:48.500 --> 34:51.500
I will never play the
Carpander's mashup again.

34:51.500 --> 34:54.500
I will never play the
Carpander's mashup again.

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I promise.

34:56.500 --> 35:00.500
Oh, man, I got like 15 minutes
and we got a sales conference
call,

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so I got to hurry to long today.

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Hey, good response from the
Brits over here about the Snoop
Dogg Nation better known

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as the British Surveillance
State.

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Although on the, when it comes
to close circuit TV cameras,

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this is very interesting when
I'm getting back.

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So, you know, this, this
country, for those of you just
listening into this thread

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for the first time, is filled
with wire taps and over four
million cameras.

35:30.500 --> 35:34.500
If the most watched nation in
the world barn on everybody
knows it,

35:34.500 --> 35:37.500
Stephen East meets, says Adam,

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generally speaking, I'm with you
on your argument for the most
part.

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I'm concerned about the amount
of bugging and lack of
accountability there appears to
be,

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but I'm not quite with you
regarding public CCTVs.

35:47.500 --> 35:50.500
I was a magistrate, which is, is
that a judge?

35:50.500 --> 35:53.500
I think it's a, well, we'll find
out.

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I'm magistrate for many years,
which encompassed both pre and
post widespread CCTV use,

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while I consider that there
ought to be more regulation of
CCTV.

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I only ever found them very
helpful form of evidence in a
magistrate's court.

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And this is exactly what my wife
says.

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You know, she says, hey, this is
really good because, you know,

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bad people will are on the watch
out because they know that they
can be identified by cameras.

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And yes, that is a benefit.

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The question is, it's, you know,
it's not the cameras.

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It's who's operating them.

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And what powers are they given?

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And what can they watch you do?

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And it's, it's never ending
discussion.

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This is why in the United
States, it's such a big deal
that this is being,

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being done.

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This is the whole, the hell is
the name of that act, the Fina
or whatever.

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You know, it's, it's nuts.

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Because, yeah, today they're
catching bad guys tomorrow.

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Well, actually, today they're
also catching you speeding by
three miles an hour.

36:52.500 --> 36:56.500
Yeah, now the CCTV cameras are
starting to talk back to you,

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telling you, hey, calm down over
there.

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I mean, this is big brother, no
matter how you, how you look at
it.

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So, yes, well, sometimes it may
be handy.

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I just don't buy the argument.

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If you have nothing to hide,
what are you afraid of?

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I like the argument.

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I'm doing nothing wrong.

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Why do you have to be looking at
me?

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I don't know.

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We've told you.

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We're probably going to be drunk
this evening.

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I'm sorry.

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Yes.

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I am just walking past the
practice.

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It's a, I like getting it in
recognition of it.

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You need contribution to British
cinema.

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I'm on Monmouth Street, WC2 in
London's West End.

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Just having a little looking to
719, I think.

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Talk about the CCTV or closed
circuit television.

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You know, this shit really does
piss me off, but it is
unfortunately necessary

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when you have this many people
squeezing to such a small space.

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All absolutely stuck and jacked
to the eyeballs on booze.

37:54.500 --> 37:57.500
They tend to fight in the
streets.

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And it's just, it's not common
to these galley to run around.

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You know, Charles, and by the
way, I love it when you're
drunk.

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I think we should be looking at
the cause of all the people
boozed up to their eyeballs
running around

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drunk in the streets.

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Why is that happening?

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This doesn't happen in every
single city.

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It doesn't happen in New York.

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It doesn't happen in Amsterdam.

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It doesn't happen in San
Francisco.

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This is consistently happening
in London specifically, but I
believe in every city around the
UK.

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Maybe we should be looking at
the reason behind that and why
that is happening instead of
just trying to put a bandaid on
it

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by stopping drunk people from
running around.

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Shouldn't we look at the root of
the cause?

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Unfortunately, it is a bit of a
necessary evil.

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But I have to say, when those
cameras started talking,

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we're right here.

38:55.500 --> 38:57.500
That was that it's spooky.

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I mean, if anyone is interested
in a red film moment,

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they really want to get
themselves a copy of brave new
world by all this luxury or even
better.

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The word that I think you really
should have been looking for was
all well,

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and you should read the George
Orwell book 1984.

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Yeah, good point.

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Go reread that.

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Go reread it.

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And then go look at that Tom
Cruise movie.

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What was it?

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I can't remember the name of it.

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Something, something report.

39:29.500 --> 39:34.500
You know, basically where they
know you're going to commit a
crime before you actually commit
it,

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and then they arrest you.

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Okay, that may be a bit far
fetched.

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But go reread it.

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Go reread 1984.

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Go to the library.

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Go to Amazon.

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I'll put a link on Amazon on the
show notes.

39:45.500 --> 39:48.500
I'll put a link to the Amazon
store so you can buy it.

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Purchase it, reread it.

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You'll see where the dangers
are.

39:51.500 --> 39:52.500
This is not new.

39:52.500 --> 39:58.500
Okay, so I mean, the book you've
been in the station to appear to
use 1984 as a manual,

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to keep you at all in a state of
constant fear.

40:01.500 --> 40:05.500
The very, very beautiful book,
but really excellent reading.

40:05.500 --> 40:08.500
I am myself having read them all
in fact a bit of a blue book.

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Although, yeah, you know what,
this, the ID cards.

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Don't get me started on that
piece.

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I'm snatched the chip inside my
password.

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Because I don't want to story
all that shit about me.

40:19.500 --> 40:20.500
So just have a number.

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That's why I'm not actually on
me.

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Now.

40:22.500 --> 40:23.500
Anyway.

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Bye.

40:24.500 --> 40:25.500
All right, Charles.

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Thank you.

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Richard and Clay Gates as a
flash mob to protest our service
surveillance society.

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Which is what I suggested.

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He said, when you've been the
victim of a knife point mugging
and seen the bastard convicted

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on the strength of CCTV
evidence, you might want to
think again.

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Ah, we really need some more red
pills here, my friends.

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Yes, that is a great benefit.

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But maybe we go after stopping
people before they mug you.

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There's reasons behind that,
too.

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This is just a bandaid on top,
which is trying to make you feel
good while the same

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time you're being frightened to
death.

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So you think that this is the
right remedy.

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Can't you see that?

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Some of you luckily can.

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Hey, Adam, I just want to say
thanks very much for your show
720.

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Brilliant.

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Do you actually hit the nail
well and truly on the head about
the totalitarian state

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that the UK has now become based
on fear?

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I reckon based on fear after
seven, after 9, 11 with Bush and
Blair screwing

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us all completely out of fear.

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Keep your scared.

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Keep us under control and we'll
accept anything.

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And we certainly have in the UK.

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One thing I suggest, you do, if
you haven't seen it, is see a
video called taking

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it by Chris Atkins.

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It's a brilliant video and it
really explains Michael Moore
fashion exactly what's happened

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to us under the guy's of the
Labour government.

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Oh man, you've got to watch
that.

41:45.500 --> 41:48.500
I posted the first episode
that's broken up in the ten
parts on YouTube.

41:48.500 --> 41:52.500
I posted that on Curry.com over
the weekend as required homework
for all British

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daily source code listeners.

41:54.500 --> 41:57.500
That is a fantastic piece of
work.

41:57.500 --> 42:01.500
In fact, I saw last night that
it was nominated for a British
film and television award

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at the BAFTAs, a very boring
show otherwise, but I was
surprised and delighted to see
that.

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You've got to watch this thing
because you'll see that
protesting actually is kind of
outlawed

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in the United Kingdom.

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It was surprising to me.

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Certainly within one kilometer
of parliament, you are not
allowed to protest.

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Want to protest somewhere else?

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You've got to go watch this
documentary.

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You'll be surprised if you're
living in the United Kingdom.

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It is your duty as a Brit to
watch that.

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I'm not kidding.

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And what they've done for us,
they have completely removed our
right to protest.

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And that's the reason that
nobody sees any protest anymore.

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Because you have to apply to
protest.

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And of course they'll say no.

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And if you go ahead, they'll of
course crush it.

42:46.500 --> 42:50.500
So yes, I think that the Labour
government have done a lot of
wonderful things for us.

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But I can't think of one at this
moment in time.

42:52.500 --> 42:53.500
So many things you talked about.

42:53.500 --> 42:55.500
You're absolutely right on about
their heroes.

42:55.500 --> 42:56.500
We've got the wrong heroes.

42:56.500 --> 42:58.500
Football is being paid to
ridiculous amounts of money.

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They could actually pay for a
hospital wing.

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I think that's outrageous.

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Dude, you are now officially my
UK Savand.

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You've got to call in more
often, man.

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First of all, I love the fact
that you recorded this.

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It sounds awesome.

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I don't know what you're
recording on.

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You've got to send in more
comments.

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The media is stuffed full of
footballers, wives, and trashy.

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We call those distractions.

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One of the three necessary tools
of the three necessary legs of
the stool of fascism.

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Yep.

43:28.500 --> 43:30.500
Keep them distracted.

43:30.500 --> 43:33.500
In consequential news, what's
wrong with the independent news?

43:33.500 --> 43:38.500
Now, through I think podcasting
is such an important part of the
world information service.

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We should be telling people
exactly what is going on.

43:41.500 --> 43:47.500
And certainly things like, are
you aware that British citizens
can now be taken to America?

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By bounty hunters.

43:49.500 --> 43:54.500
If you have a look at times
online, the US and there's now
clearly stated in a UK court of
law,

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that it has the right to kick
them out of British citizens,
accused of a crime in the US.

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Horrific things are going on.

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Of course, the government
haven't protested against that.

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Education, well, you touch a
sore point there.

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My wife was a teacher, and
certainly there's a lot of
things going on in education.

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What people don't realise is
just that the teachers are
completely crushed by the amount
of paperwork.

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And they meant lists and targets
that have been put onto them.

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Oh, it doesn't surprise me at
all.

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I've seen the complete apathy of
teachers in the public schooling
system here.

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Complete apathy.

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I totally agree 100% that the
Department of Education has
removed all of their power.

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And they can't discipline.

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And they just have to hit too
many targets.

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And there's tons of paperwork.

44:40.500 --> 44:42.500
Oh, I buy that for sure.

44:42.500 --> 44:45.500
That's taken from the American
Department of Education
Playable.

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I once again buy the government.

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They don't get extra time.

44:48.500 --> 44:52.500
And they've also taken away all
their rights as regards
discipline children and so on.

44:52.500 --> 44:54.500
And of course, nobody will take
responsibility.

44:54.500 --> 44:56.500
These days, nobody takes
responsibility for anything.

44:56.500 --> 44:58.500
It's always somebody else's
fault.

44:58.500 --> 45:01.500
And if that's the case, that
means they can sue.

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So it's not surprising that kids
don't protest.

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They haven't actually seen a
protest.

45:04.500 --> 45:07.500
And when you consider you've
got, that's a great point, man.

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They haven't actually seen a
protest.

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The only protest kids today in
the UK of seniors.

45:12.500 --> 45:17.500
When footballers walk off the
field because the crowd is
throwing too much shit into the
pitch.

45:17.500 --> 45:22.500
Three generations in this
country now that have probably
never worked in a family.

45:22.500 --> 45:24.500
And they've lived off the state.

45:24.500 --> 45:26.500
And then the state opens its
doors to these Europeans.

45:26.500 --> 45:28.500
They come in their cheap labor.

45:28.500 --> 45:29.500
They're earning money.

45:29.500 --> 45:32.500
They're sending them any back
home and they're using our
facilities.

45:32.500 --> 45:35.500
Maybe that's why we're all
drinking over here.

45:35.500 --> 45:38.500
That sounds like a pretty good,
nucleus core of issues.

45:38.500 --> 45:42.500
And blocking up the hospital as
they're currently doing at the
moment with the Polish people,
apparently,

45:42.500 --> 45:44.500
filling it all in maternity
wards.

45:44.500 --> 45:46.500
It's a dreadful state of
affairs.

45:46.500 --> 45:47.500
I couldn't agree with you more.

45:47.500 --> 45:50.500
I just want to thank you very
much for flagging it up.

45:50.500 --> 45:52.500
I think we should be protesting
an awful lot more.

45:52.500 --> 45:56.500
And the best protest I could
think of is actually everybody
by a t-shirt that says,

45:56.500 --> 46:02.500
you work for us and then
surrounding parliament on a busy
day and stopping the traffic and
just saying,

46:02.500 --> 46:03.500
just a silent protest.

46:03.500 --> 46:06.500
Just to remind them exactly
where they got their power from.

46:06.500 --> 46:08.500
But they've certainly abused
that power.

46:08.500 --> 46:10.500
And you're absolutely right.

46:10.500 --> 46:13.500
There are what 20 or 30 cameras
for every person in the UK at
the moment.

46:13.500 --> 46:15.500
It's outrageous.

46:15.500 --> 46:16.500
So that's me, Sonny.

46:16.500 --> 46:17.500
Thanks very much.

46:17.500 --> 46:18.500
Late 40s.

46:18.500 --> 46:19.500
Good looking.

46:19.500 --> 46:20.500
No.

46:20.500 --> 46:21.500
No.

46:21.500 --> 46:22.500
Still married.

46:22.500 --> 46:23.500
King podcaster.

46:23.500 --> 46:25.500
And that's Bob from the Idol
Station.

46:25.500 --> 46:26.500
Bye.

46:26.500 --> 46:27.500
Bye.

46:27.500 --> 46:28.500
Bye.

46:28.500 --> 46:29.500
Bye.

46:29.500 --> 46:30.500
Thank you, man.

46:30.500 --> 46:31.500
I love you.

46:31.500 --> 46:32.500
No, homo.

46:32.500 --> 46:33.500
Send him more, dude.

46:33.500 --> 46:34.500
This is a great idea.

46:34.500 --> 46:36.500
You work for us.

46:36.500 --> 46:39.500
So we need t-shirts and we need
to coordinate.

46:39.500 --> 46:46.500
I think multiple flashmob since
it is illegal to protest within
one mile of parliament.

46:46.500 --> 46:48.500
But this wouldn't be a protest.

46:48.500 --> 46:53.500
It would be a quick flash mob
and all of a sudden we'd have
hundreds of people appeared with
these t-shirts.

46:53.500 --> 46:57.500
And then within five minutes,
boom, we all disperse before the
cops can do anything.

46:57.500 --> 46:59.500
How cool does that sound?

46:59.500 --> 47:01.500
Bob, you want to coordinate?

47:02.500 --> 47:04.500
You want to rock and roll, man?

47:04.500 --> 47:05.500
You want to have some fun?

47:05.500 --> 47:08.500
I'm certainly ready for it.

47:08.500 --> 47:12.500
Steven Lowe says, Adam, I have
had my N-810.

47:12.500 --> 47:14.500
This is a Nokia internet tablet.

47:14.500 --> 47:16.500
Since they were launched in the
UK, I love it.

47:16.500 --> 47:17.500
Found all sorts of cool apps.

47:17.500 --> 47:19.500
But apart from the video center
app,

47:19.500 --> 47:22.500
I haven't found a decent
podcasting out the downloads
directly.

47:22.500 --> 47:24.500
Any ideas?

47:26.500 --> 47:27.500
Muller?

47:27.500 --> 47:28.500
What is it?

47:28.500 --> 47:29.500
Muller?

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How much?

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$4.47.

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Wage slave, Birmingham, UK,
White Mail.

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Boston Air, Hope you Win,
Kippertai.

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Love you, and a Brotherly, Love,
Hippie Way.

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XXX.

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You know what?

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I posted a link on Curry.com,

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just this morning to the candy
men's Weblog.

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You should take a look at that
because he shows Canola,

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which I think you'll like a lot.

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Canola, I think version 2 is now
odd.

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I haven't had time to load it
myself,

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but it's a very nice interface
for big thumb type usage.

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and uh... i know that uh...
previous versions of uh...

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of canola have done podcast and
quite well see might want to
have uh...

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have a check of that a wait a
minute

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what is this

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what day is it

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it's not friday this is weird

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[ Music ]

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you're out of what do you say

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you know how's going at i'm it
is jersey time the official
musicologist of the

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chacha

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hey dude i know what you're
saying

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of course you know it's not food
bar friday

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but over the time that i've been
your official musicologist i do
think that i've

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built up some certain
credibility some certain ability
to come to you and say

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dude dude i've got something for
you that just absolutely blows
my mind and some weeks

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i simply can't wait till food
bar friday to bring it to you

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it's happening again to me this
week sharing Miller out of New
York

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New York has a brand new five
song EP with a brand new album

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you're real soon that is
absolutely all right man the
stakes are high

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possible to wear out a CD i'd
like it done it with this one

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check this out this song is
called waste my breath i know
you're going to love it i'll see

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you on friday but you got to get
this thing on as soon as
possible check it out

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sharing Miller out of the D.S.C

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[ Music ]

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I'm always my breath on the rise

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I'm always my breath on the rise

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I'm always my breath on the rise

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It's at a James Beatles Otis
running

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She's got like 8 or 9 tracks up
on the pot

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That music never

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I'm definitely gonna listen to
some of the stuff she has

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That's cool, waste my breath

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Links in the show notes at
dailysourcecode.com

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Okay, I got this sales call
which started four minutes ago

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So I've really gotta go

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I'll be back tomorrow

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We'll have lots more to talk
about

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I love you, I mean it in the
home

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Well, in some cases maybe

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Hey, live your life with passion
and please enjoy your freedom

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What's left of it?

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Another pod show podcast

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Stick it in your ear