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Delta Sierra Charlie, 8-2-3!

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We're 16 months to 7 minutes and
shooting five nons of time.

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The 21st century of radio starts
here.

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We are way nons.

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We can't get any of our lives.

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I know you're the strength of
your honesty.

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It's a battle curry.

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Don't you got to let me know.

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Should I stay or should I go?

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[ Music ]

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Should I cool it or should I
blow

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It'll get on me

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I see you

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[ Music ]

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We are on the air, just about
everywhere, global transmission
starts now on no agenda

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If you are listening and you are
near a computer, please, it is
up at the chat room, it is

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all the fun, it is no
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2 of the show that is back, I
think the question the class
asked us to answer, I think

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I should stay, and you know
what, it is like all of a sudden
the show is just kind of getting

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ready to roll out of me, I am
ready to go, didn't even have to
do all that much prep, although

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I would like a little more
pot-save music, I do have a
couple tracks coming up for you
later

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on, and we are going to be
talking about a number of
things.

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In the vein of laying it all out
there, open source divorce on
the chuckle today, that

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should be interesting, got a
couple of old familiar voices,
he will be back, and yes, one

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counted one promo that I will
play for you, for the next hour,
the source code is

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back and in your face, and this
is the outstanding long version
of this song which you

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never hear on the radio
anywhere, which is why it
deserves to be heard, deep
inside your

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membranes, jam in the plugs,
Martin Offers got it for you,
let it reverberate, it will

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[ Music ]

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be heard, that's the way to do
it, you play the guitar on your
TV, I am working, that's the way
to do it,

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[ Music ]

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Go 푹

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Snow right, where is

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As I put you in the middle of
the road

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It's got to move me to the
refrigerator

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I've got to move me to the
refrigerator

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Look at you

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I should have been to play the
guitar

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I should have learned to play
the drums

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Look at that mama, she got it

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Thinkin' in the camera, I met
her

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I look at her, so

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And he's up there, what's there?

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Come while you know it's us

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You're bringing on a bundle like
this

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Oh, that's a ring

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That's the way you're doing it

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You're doing it for nothing,
it's a chick

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It's so free

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We've got to be strong like a
wave of the moon

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[ Music ]

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Thanks for the chat room, and I
had Twitter that the stream is
in Mono once again today.

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It's something that I definitely
have to figure out because
there's nothing like hearing

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mock-knock-flur in stereo.

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Oh, oh, I'm in dire straits, I
just think you're showing up
again.

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In the extended version of money
for nothing, chicks for free.

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Which I'd say is kind of what we
expected with podcasting back in
the day, isn't it?

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At least I did.

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I thought, hey, it's gonna be
great.

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Now what we got to do is just do
some shows, and the money I'll
show up.

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And of course, didn't turn out
exactly that way, but I do want
to correct something.

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I said, on the source code, on,
was it Friday, the Football
Friday edition.

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Dave Winner actually was right
that podcasting and blogging may
not necessarily result directly

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in money, but it does give you
ways to make money.

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In association with your
programming.

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And I do want to mention that is
exactly what Mivia was finally
stumbled upon.

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And if you want to know more,
then hit me up with an email and
I will forge over to Brian

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Callwell and he'll definitely
let you know how we do it.

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So although you may not make
revenues directly, it's
definitely important.

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I'm gonna play one more song,
which is an amazing mashup from
Rock Sugar.

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Oh, just got turned on to have
never heard of these guys
before, but meant they are
awesome.

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They do the mashups in a new
jacket.

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Kind of live.

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It'll blow you away when you
hear what they've done.

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Don't stop the salmon.

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[ Music ]

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Keep on going.

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Keep on going.

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Band us called Rock Sugar.

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This track don't stop the same
man.

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I've got a whole album filled
with mash-ups like this.

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As far as I can tell, they've
completely replayed,

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we've mastered done everything
all over again.

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And I just love it.

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It's fantastic.

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I had to actually rip that off
of a YouTube video.

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I'm going to put links in the
show notes.

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You can find those at
dailysourcecode.com.

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And I've ordered their album and
you can't download it.

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It's not available on iTunes.

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You're going to only get the
physical product.

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But I wanted to play this for
you so badly.

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I couldn't wait until I got the
album.

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I'm sure that I will be playing
more from their CD in episodes
to come.

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They've got a lot of...

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And they do live shows, too,
which is perfect for the old
people amongst us.

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So yeah, just going back to
making money with alternative
media.

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There's so many different ways
to do it.

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But I have to say it's no one
going to come from the old
fashioned way of,

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hey, you only can go through one
gate, one gate of mainstream
goodness,

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deliver through to your
television or radio.

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And therefore lots of people
have forced the listen to it.

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No, we have much smaller
audiences in much smaller.

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I'd have to say compared to the
way it used to work.

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But you can do a lot of things
in conjunction with your show.

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And sometimes it's just provide
relevance to the business that
you're doing next to it.

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So besides the ever pervasive
GoDaddy codes,

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which I will be putting GoDaddy
codes back into the show notes
at dailysourcecode.com as a part
of the show.

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The only way I really asked to
support this program is by
supporting the project that John
and I are,

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you know, putting together
essentially is no agenda
stream.com,

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which we believe we can build
into something of significant
value.

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And if you find value in no
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devorac.org slash NA S.

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And that's where you can donate
to the stream become a
sustaining producer to keep it
going.

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And we're actually hiring people
to do stuff, which actually does
cost money.

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Coming to you from the hilltop
watch tower once again today.

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It's a beautiful day in Southern
California.

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The people's Republic that is in
Los Angeles.

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And I want to talk to you about
a couple of things today.

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One of them is this incredible
experience I've been going
through,

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which of course is nothing new
for many people.

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They go through separation
divorce.

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It happens all the time.

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Unfortunately, a very high
percentage of people talk about
that on a 22.

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But for the past, gosh, it must
be seven or eight months.

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I've been working with
Patricia's lawyers.

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And I have to say lawyers
because she's gone through three
of them at this point,

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although I begged for a form of
mediation, which I thought would
be much easier.

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And she actually had a lawyer
who pretended like she was
coming in as a mediator.

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And then all of a sudden turned
into her lawyer.

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And I actually, I had a lawyer
for like two weeks.

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And then I fired him.

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I said, dude, you know, forget
about this.

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I'm not going to waste any money
on you.

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And I still beg Patricia not to
waste money on these stupid
lawyers because they are so
evil.

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In this process.

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Because we talk, you know, we
have conversations.

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I picked up Christina from her
house when I took over to London
a couple weeks ago.

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And we actually had a pretty
good chat.

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And, you know, we've been
principle agreed on, hey, let's
just split everything up.

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Whatever that is, that's fine.

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And I've been nothing but easy.

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Because I feel she deserves half
of everything that we built up
together.

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But then you get these asshole
lawyers.

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And I have to generalize.

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I'm sorry.

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Certainly it comes to divorce
attorneys.

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And they're just crazy.

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I spent, you know, and so I've
done so many contracts.

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And that's what a divorce is.

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You know, at the end of the day,
there will be a piece of papers
settlement agreement.

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And it'll be filed in
California.

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And it's very simple.

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There's no fault divorce in the
state of California.

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It'll be under irreconcilable
differences, which is correct.

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And, you know, talking for
seven, eight months answering
long letters and, you know,
going into detail.

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And by the way, the internet is
great.

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Because you can look everything
up.

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You know, lawyers in general, I
think, are just translating a
different language.

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And takes and work off your
hands.

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But I, yeah, I felt it was very
important to be, you know,
personally involved in this
whole process.

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And understand exactly what
they're saying.

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And maybe we can learn something
from it all.

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And so I went through seven or
eight months of basically
bringing it down to, you know,
to two very simple items.

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One really is, you know, I think
a lot of you know, that all of
the bank accounts, everything
was in her name.

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She has control over all of
that. She moved out of the,

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um, our place in London and took
everything.

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I have some boxes arriving with
my studio, by the way, that's
been salvaged.

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Wait for that to, we're that to
arrive.

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Then I can definitely get the
stream back in stereo.

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And, you know, my books and my
nicknakes, that's essentially,
that's kind of what life is
boiled down to.

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My books, my studio equipment
and my nicknakes, which is like
my, you know, my, my star trek
communicator.

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Yeah, important stuff like that.

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Oh, and by the way, the machine
gun that my grandfather brought
back the Japanese submachine
gun.

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He brought about it from the
South Pacific, which I do want
to talk about later as well.

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So we go through months of back
and forth and, you know, then
the lawyers are, well, here's
the family code and they look up
the family code and, you know,
you can answer that stuff.

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It's not that hard, really. It's
not that scary.

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But what we're so disappointing
is,

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then all of a sudden, you know,
you get a draft settlement
agreement.

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And everything we discussed for
the past eight months is all
still in there.

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All the things we agreed upon is
all turned back.

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And now it's basically starting
all over again, because yet
another law firm has to be
involved in the United States.

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And it's just, you know, they're
just ripping off.

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They're ripping her off. And of
course, you know, nothing I say
is,

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is going to convince anybody of
that.

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It's just more time. It's
unbelievable, unbelievable.

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Of course, I'm very happy that
she's doing quite okay.
Certainly financially.

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She has no issues whatsoever.
She's never had a problem with
that.

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And I just hope we can get all
of this behind us.

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And everybody can move on and
we'll be done with it.

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And then eventually the press
will die down, which has been
very,

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whoa, that's a big helicopter,
which has been very challenging
in all of this.

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I mean, it's one thing to
separate. It's another thing to
separate with a lot of media
attention.

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Because, you know, you have to
catch yourself.

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It's like, you know, you'll read
something like, I never said
that to anybody.

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I didn't talk to any journalist.
And then you read something else
from the, from the other side.

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And you're like, I can't believe
she said that. You gotta wait a
minute.

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Wait a minute. That's probably
not true.

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So the smartest thing I think
we've both done is make sure
that we are able to,

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basically ask each other, hey,
did you say that? Did you mean
that?

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And so, you know, it's a
dichotomy.

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On one hand, on the personal
side, things are kind of going
along pretty well.

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But on the legal side, they're
just drawing it out and making
an expensive stupid process.

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Anyway, my dear friend, Angie B,
who sent a comment to me, by the
way,

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which I want to play for in a
second, also sent me along a
song.

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And I definitely want to play
that for you, because it's very
appropriate.

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And not only that, but it's pod
safe.

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And it is one half of
everything, but the girl, which
I've always appreciated as a,

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I guess as a band, and I always
thought they were pretty
awesome.

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It's Tracy Thorne.

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This is appropriately titled,
Oh, the divorces.

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The words will mean a bit to
you, I think.

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Who's next? Who's next?

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[ Music ]

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He's nice.

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Tracy Thorn, oh the divorce is
pod safe and you can download
this track from her website.

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Thank you so much, Angie B for
turn me on to that.

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I want to grace song that is.

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And it says that it's all right
there.

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In fact, I need a little bit of
love right now.

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I need Angie to bring me the
sexy back.

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Hey baby.

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Hey, Adam, it's Angie B.

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Thanks so much for including me
and the DSC last week, just
wanted to share some of my
thoughts.

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My posts of the show up on my
Facebook and Twitter and, you
know, it seemed to inspire

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a lot of conversation, heard
from some of the old media folks
I hadn't talked to in a

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while, from one who had stopped
podcasting and said he was
inspired to get back into it.

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I think he contacted you
privately as well.

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Also talked to some folks about
pod safe music and, you know,

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Angie, before you keep going,
thank you so much for that Tracy
Thorn track.

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Because I would really like to
do so much more with, with pod
safe music.

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But I also want to make a show
that's really entertaining.

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A lot of music out there in
general is crap, pod safe and
not, but please go to pod

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safe music network.com.

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If you're an artist, read how
the system works is pretty
simple.

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You upload your tracks, you make
them available for all the
podcasters and other alternative

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media producers to use them and
give you credit and help you
basically promote your stuff.

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And I think we've pretty much
proven that this works.

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I still see 20 to 30 new tracks
going up every single day.

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I'm just looking for more fun
stuff to play.

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So keep it coming.

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Gosh, you're such an
inspirational guy.

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I think that's is why we all
miss the DSC.

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There's just that personal human
quality that you've always had
in the DSC and you had

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it in spades last week and
really just the show left me at
the smile on my face the rest

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of the day.

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I just get, you know,
remembering old times and
feeling all warm and fuzzy and
it's just so nice

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to have the DSC back.

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I say, take it slow, don't
overdo it, don't get back into
every day thing, just do it

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when you're feeling it and we're
going to feel it too.

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And I just want to say we
appreciate you, man.

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Oh, Angie.

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Oh.

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Now, I'm going to take it to a
home or the level I love you.

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You know that, especially love
your voice, check out Angie at
the chill cast.

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Well, you know what, a lot of
influences, a lot of reasons why
I brought the source code

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back.

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And I am doing it totally when I
feel like it and I've changed a
lot of things in my life,

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you know, now I'm living in Los
Angeles, still going up to San
Francisco a couple of times

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a month to be in the office and
contributing there, what I can't
I can do a lot obviously

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being in the same time zone
through phone and Skype, which
of course I did for four years

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from London.

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So, makes a lot of sense there.

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I think I mentioned on the
previous show that I've been,
I've got this new book, ADD.

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I'm able to read five books
simultaneously once again.

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I'm trying to pair that down to
three, but I'm doing pretty good
with the five.

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And one of the things that that
I think really hit me, one of
the books that really brought

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me back to what I wanted to do
with the source code, now that I
can really talk about

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everything and I feel open
enough to talk to you guys about
everything, that's going on

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in my life, which really works
is this book called Authenticity
by James H. Gilmore and

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B. Joseph Pine II, who are the
authors of the experience
economy.

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And the book actually has a
subtitle, what consumers really
want.

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And it is authenticity and, you
know, the DSC has always been a
playground, so once again,

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you are in my guinea pigs and
I'm just trying to give you 100%
authenticity.

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And I think it works.

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It really does.

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Now, I've always been as
authentic and real as possible
on this show, but, you know,
often

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a lot of things have been going
on that I really just couldn't
talk about it and feel

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as appropriate.

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And I think I'm over that, which
is really nice, really is.

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So let me say one other thing
then, which I see is a topic in
the chat room, not right

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now at noagendachat.com,
remember when we do the show
live, it goes out on
noagendastream.com,

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is about the health care bill
and I'm going to make it real
simple.

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If we believe the system works
the way it should work and I'm
just going to have to have

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some belief in that, then a
majority, albeit a slim
majority, a majority of the
country

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through their representatives in
government, I know it's all
disputable and debatable,

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but that's maybe something for
noagenda.

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They voted for this health care
bill.

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Now, I believe that the public
was poorly informed and perhaps,
say, we're even lied

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to, certainly words matter and
when you say that the
congressional budget office says
that

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this will reduce the deficit by
a trillion dollars over the next
two decades, that is definitely

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bending the truth as the CBO is
said, it might affect the
deficit in the second decade

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by a trillion dollars.

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They have not explicit.

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They don't even calculate past
10 years so that just can't be
the truth.

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But it doesn't matter.

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And the way it works in our
system is, okay, we all voted.

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We have a majority to do this,
so let's do it and we'll support
it and we'll see what

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comes of it.

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If it doesn't work out, then all
right, then we'll, we'll, we'll
have to

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change it or adapt it or
whatever's necessary.

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And of course, in politics,
there's no winning or losing.

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There's only battles that
continue.

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And that's the way it's supposed
to be.

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I think it's healthy.

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It really is.

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And let's see what happens.

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You know, maybe we're all wrong.

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Maybe it's great.

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Maybe it isn't.

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But history will definitely show
if this was good or not.

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And we'll have an opportunity to
correct this is a great country.

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And yeah, I'm, I'm a little
concerned about what it might
have regarding financial
implications.

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But we'll see now by that same
token, I feel that we should
also revisit some of the things

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we're doing as a country such as
the war in Iraq, the war in
Afghanistan, which as far

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as I know are illegal,
unconstitutional, seeing as the
Congress did not necessarily
write

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a war, an act of war against
either of those countries, I
think there's a lot of
shenanigans

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going on.

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And that's something that needs
to be top of the agenda right
now because that also, by the

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way, we'll save us some money.

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That's the crazy thing that I
feel is, you know, we all need
universal health care, we need

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to take care of people.

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On the other side, we're, we're
throwing hot lead at boys and
girls and, you know, drone

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shooting people from out of the
sky and deserts, it's very
disturbing to me, particularly

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when you see shows like the
Pacific, which again I'll get
back to later on.

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So Bruce Cockburn kind of sums
it all up, how I'm feeling about
what's going on, the

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side's health care, and there's
quite a lot to be worried about,
a lot of things we need

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to change.

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Check out this track if I had a
rocket launcher on the Charley.

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[ Music ]

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rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a rocket launcher, if I had a

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rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a rocket launcher, if I had

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a rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a rocket launcher, if I had

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a rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a rocket launcher, if I had a

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rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a rocket launcher, if I had

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a rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a rocket launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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if I had a rocket launcher, if I
had a rocket launcher, if I had
a one launcher, if I had a
rocket launcher,

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matter we've really got to be
careful perhaps we need to teach
our kids how to

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read a little better now there's
a book I'd like to write the
book I'm

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learning to read some John and I
can work on long-term projects
it's the

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Charlie episode a 23 I don't
know why it doesn't need to
matter how hard

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to try keep that in mind I'm
whose eye is right to explain to
do time

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[ Music ]

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it doesn't even matter

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love that song

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love that band Lincoln Park in
the end on daily source code
episode 823 broadcasting live

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on no agenda stream dot com
which is so cool now that we
have iPhones and androids

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and even a black barrier to has
some kind of app that you can
listen to listen to

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streaming media we got cars
coming out with streaming media
I think there's we're

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really in the next five years
we're going to see some really
interesting things

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happening with streaming audio
and the connections we can make
with it I

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definitely plan on being a part
of it but also I'm very
interested in this you know

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I was I really have to say when
I got that memo that got that
first iPhone and I

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dropped it in the toilet after a
week and it was completely toast
and then you know

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I tried to bring it back to life
I still have it by the way it's
coming in one of my

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boxes it does still fire up it
still comes alive unfortunately
the touch screen

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is completely broken so you
can't do anything with it you
can't even answer a phone

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call remember I put it in the
kitty litter to try and draw the
the moisture out yeah

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great experiment and of course I
was really angry then because
it's like you can't

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take the battery out so I really
straight away from the iPhone
for a long time

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I really became loyalist to
Nokia the E71 in particular
really did a great job

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for me for quite a while and
then the Android came out have
to say I was really

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digging the Android really like
the apps the whole paradigm what
I'll call an

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app phone I don't I think
something like the Nokia E71 is
really more like a

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smartphone that's a phone that
has smarts in it but this new
thing this thing you

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know the it's the iPhone
basically launched and I think
Android is doing good

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job of providing a version of it
is an app phone and I love the
open architecture

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of the apps and being able to
you know having a lot more
control over it but

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man I just don't think you can
beat the experience of the
iPhone and they're

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and I think that Apple is
surprised by the experience that
they've they've

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created it's really it's really
a game changers really transform
the way people

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use mobile device I know it's
done that with me I mean I even
I don't own a

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Kindle but I do find myself
actually using the Kindle app
for the iPhone to read

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your book in fact I'm reading
genius of the beast still almost
done with that

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from whenever I have a chance
because it's such a happy
positive book and I

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can pick it up in the middle of
the night if I wake up which I
another thing

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what the hell is that all about
yeah I sleep like six and a half
hours and I'm

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awake and I ready to go and yeah
it's like five thirty in a
morning and

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what's up I don't seem to be
able to sleep longer than that
anymore yeah yet I'm

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not tired I'm on an airplane
I'll just say I'm going to be a
couple chapters

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here it's fantastic and I'm just
amazed by the yeah it's the
closed business

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model and there's lots of pros
and cons about the way Apple
does things but

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I'm not adverse to it you know
if you wanted to deliver a real
experience to the

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the I wouldn't say the lowest
but the broadest common
denominator you have to

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take control of the the hardware
the software and some of the
services and I

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think they've done an excellent
job and I have been working on
my own iPhone app

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for coming up on let me see
three months now which is
interesting because I

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really wanted to do was much of
it myself as possible which
meant firing up

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X code and learning objective C
which is no small feet I can
tell you it was

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easier to learn the language of
the lawyers than it was to learn
the objective C

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but if I reconnected with a
number of people who are doing
some very interesting

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things making it a lot easier
and more affordable for people
to create their

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own iPhone apps and I think I'll
be talking about that in the
next week or two

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as I get my iPhone app launched
first it has to all come
together I did have to

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outsource some of the graphic
work which I really suck at and
so I found a

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couple guys who I knew from the
package it's rogue rogue sheep
and they've

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done a great job on creating
even something as simple as the
the apps icon you

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know that's like you really got
to think about do you want the
icon to show

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what the app does or do you want
something that be just pops out
and people

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always say oh yes I remember
that app I know what that does
and it's something

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that is really very visual and
grabs your attention and says
click on it you know

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all these different things that
have to be queried and then of
course I'm

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going to go through the whole
process of understanding how
Apple's approvals

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work which will be interesting
since there is some video
component to this app

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oh yeah I got some video
projects in mind and a video
component is you know

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can really trip you up on the
approval process based upon
bandwidth it's being

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used when the phone is in mobile
mode so I'll keep you up to
speed on everything

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that's going on with that but
first before we go any further
say hello to my old

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little friend

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what father this is a prolific
program from San Francisco
California

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yes yes I had you call in the
agenda number one eight zero yes
and decided to submit

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to my own return I am I intend
to contribute back your DSC the
reason I

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haven't been going to be no
agenda is because a we don't
play any comments and

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no agenda that's why guys don't
play and the top we talk about I
know a very

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little or nothing about I love
it when I can't understand what
you're talking

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about pp

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I already love that

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there's a friend of mine I'll
call him for now

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pakey bond because that's
because of the office in London
you have no

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mistakes I think you know he is
yeah he's been saying to mention
the

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information about his work at
Goldman Sachs and I know you
guys are all

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working over there and that
realm of the universe and I love
the fact that you

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talking to me give me as much
insight information at least
your thought

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process is good stuff

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regard the stuff you've been
talking to agenda regarding
Goldman Sachs

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and rest of it he will he will
hopefully also be contributing
stuff

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regularly probably by email
because he doesn't really write
it like his voice

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pretty cool you know he'll be
telling me what he has to say
and I just want to

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say welcome back with Mr. very
much pot father many thanks Adam
cheers

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a prolific program I think is so
much you've had sounds like your
diction is

53:49.920 --> 53:54.400
gotten better although I still
wish I was high when I was
listening to you

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[ Music ]

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I love this song thank you Kevin
for sending it in I have a
feeling with this

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the mega multi media

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[ Music ]

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got friends and family I got
remote control I got cable TV

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got nails had cheap pet I got a
mountain of crap on the internet

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join cop in at a home but I want
to be mega multi media hero

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[ Music ]

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yeah I love the lyric I turn on
my MTV but it doesn't see me
yeah that's exactly the

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problem isn't it oh man remember
to self got to do a show about
the

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mind control of the music
industry so much we've got to
talk about a lot of

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catching up to do and a couple
of comments came in let me just
roll this

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one out for you hi Adam welcome
back with a DSC it's great to
have it back

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after all this time of course
it's so slow that it was just
last week that I

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published a podcast all about
the history of RSS and I say in
the roundup by the end of

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that that the final daily source
code happened in February 2009
and then of course a few

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days later wouldn't you know it
but another DSC appears or
should that be SC anyway

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SC DSC whatever it's good to
have you back doing the more
personal source code of your

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lifetime podcast that's the
stuff I think really works not
so much the conspiracy theory

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stuff it's the from the heart
stuff that really connects so
keep it up just don't let it
take

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you over and if you want to hear
what I said about you and they
whiner and

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closures and podcasting have a
listen to show 33 of the IT
author podcast from about

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407 30 onwards all the best bye
all right man thank you so much
for saying that in

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and thanks for the show by the
way and I recommend people
listen to the whole show don't

58:38.400 --> 58:45.600
just shuttle ahead 41 minutes
hey no no no no it's actually
worth it to listen to a couple

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shows in their entirety don't
you think Chris Moiles from BBC
Radio 1 was talking about

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at the other day we've come a
long way with podcasting when
this is what he asked to say

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he came back with this for the
knowledge that some of our
listeners don't know what
podcasts

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I think most don't they don't
know what a podcast is right
yeah now maybe he was meeting
some

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stupid people I thought most
people knew what a podcast was
so alad is written a

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layman's cell you have the best
of the miles podcast so he's
written a script

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and I went well podcasts instead
of like you know being on the
radio like a broadcast

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it's a podcast it's on your iPod
but I guess you know necessarily
on your iPod that's why

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they're called it no it is in
the arm because they're also in
the internet

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while they were called neck cast
from like no I don't think the
iPod has anything to do with

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podcasts or things coincidence
you must do surely I think it's
coincidence

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well I mean I'm not a scientist
but I thought that was the
connection

59:59.120 --> 01:00:04.800
I thought because we talked
about this guy in the air before
Adam Curry who is known as the

01:00:04.880 --> 01:00:11.680
podfar worked at Apple if he did
that she went to MTV if he did
that's why I don't think it is

01:00:11.680 --> 01:00:19.280
I think it's just coincidence
the sound similar and he's very
techy and he is pretty much
credited

01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:27.280
with making the first of a
podcast there you go I've just
proved my place

01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:36.320
oh go I'm right yeah so I win
now moving on Alex if you were
to explain to one of our

01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:43.760
list by the way can you just
text in if you don't know what a
podcast stop stop stop stop
there you go

01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:48.960
that's worse than what Wikipedia
has to say

01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:55.200
now I think it's all gonna melt
together though that's pretty
good people you know they got
like

01:00:55.200 --> 01:01:00.480
I got my I got this show on my
iPhone on my iPod and yeah it's
gonna be streaming in my car
radio

01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:06.800
people oh yeah it's gotta be
it's becoming ubiquitous which I
like I really like a lot of
these

01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:13.760
iPhone apps and Android apps
that's stream a show or that
give you and we finally got the
bandwidth

01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:19.120
I mean I just want to say one
thing about podcasting it's
original intent and when Dave
wine

01:01:19.120 --> 01:01:26.320
and I worked on the enclosure
element for RSS it was original
intent was to have your computer

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doing something in his downtime
and sucking in content that you
would know about but your
computer

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would say oh I have something
new for you and basically time
delaying everything and now
things

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are so snappy in general even
though we have pretty much the
worst broadband infrastructure
in the

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world or 15th on the list or
whatever in the US in general
you could pretty much get on
demand

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now and uh case and point you
can also do things live this
streaming works pretty well

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and uh above all you can still
just put out whatever you want
to put out

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then if you've got a show that
you want to promote on the
source code I'd love to let
people know about it

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people in just three don't
discuss it just yellow or each
other I wish I could say what I
really

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think and have people actually
listening is there any place
where people discuss the hot
button

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subjects of the day without
disrespect yes there is it is
called plain dudes radio what is

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plain dudes radio see a unique
experiment it's a podcast about
diverse opinions on philosophy

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in our world who are the plain
dudes I work as a bookkeeper I
drive a truck I'm back and I
drive a

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try and I deliver pizza and
chase weather and I deliver TV
programming at a network
television station

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plain dudes radio diverse views
from common people discuss with
intelligence and respect

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a one-of-a-kind experiment in
communications come and join us
at www dot plain dudes radio dot
com

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I love it as the kind of shows I
love listening to I don't have
enough of a commute only a

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couple times a month up the San
Francisco and boy do I pack up
the uh the iPhone with uh with

01:03:16.720 --> 01:03:20.880
shows when I'm doing that of
course everything that we talk
about today will be in the links
at

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daily source code dot com and
just thinking about the early
days of the source code the the
early

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days of podcasting there is a
group of girls who I must give
major props to because they
really

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help me understand and they were
the first ones I think I really
work with in a pod safe
environment

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they said hey you know what just
come to our shows we're kind of
crazy we do this thing called
cocktail

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pop please play our song or any
of our songs we'll put them up
anywhere so people can download
them

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if you feel I get in the CD do
that and you might want to
revisit them link in the show
notes to

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these wonderful girls one of my
favorite songs of all time from
the list of these bitties

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[ Music ]

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let's give you his bitties he's
a hell of a boy and they are pot
safe links to this

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track and all the tracks played
today in the show notes a daily
source code dot com all right

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I got to go start doing my taxes
we're getting very close I
filled out my senses form yes

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I don't want to go to jail and I
cannot wait to speak with many
of you again Thursday morning

01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:38.560
for the early service at no
agenda it'll also be on the
stream no agenda stream dot com
if you want

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to support that initiative and
this show please go to devore
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your

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support it will be highly
appreciated see if anything else
I think that's it cool to see

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what on the chat and of course
for you chuckle heads will be
back Friday with a food bar
Friday

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edition of the daily source code
another fine media presentation
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