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All right, as promised, we've
got a special guest on today's
Daily Source Code.

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First time we've actually turned
the Hilltop Watch Tower Crackpot
Command Center Studio

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into something that actually
kind of resembles, kind of like
a studio, I guess.

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A little bit.

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You back and forth, welcome.

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Hi, thanks.

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Hey, man.

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Oh, hold on me.

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Let me, uh, let me, uh, just
take a wee bit of off for a
second.

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It's a little weird when we're
talking when you got nothing but
reverb.

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So you, um, actually, uh, I met
through, uh, your sister who was
working for, uh, for

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Mickey and San Francisco said,
uh, you know, she's like totally
hawk and you're totally

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plugging the shit out of your
stuff.

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Like, oh, you got to listen to
CD is really good.

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And then, uh, and so, uh, me
can't listen to, I was like,
wow, this guy's really huge.

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Are you sure he's Dutch?

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It's like, and the first thing I
noticed, man, is your accent is,
is impeccable.

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I mean, you can almost can't
tell your Dutch.

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Right, do I can?

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But, uh, no, yeah, true, true.

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So where did you learn to speak
with such a great American
accent?

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Uh, TV.

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Just, we just come a little bit
closer to the mic because I
can't, it's hard for me to work

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the board and everything all the
same time.

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I only have two hands and, you
know, I got to smoke as well.

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Um, so now, uh, your, uh,
professional musician as in, you
do this for a living.

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I do.

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I do.

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And, uh, you're living in the
Netherlands, but thinking of
maybe giving it a try over here

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in the States.

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Uh, I'm fan-to-planning it,
fan-to-sizing and planning it.

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Okay.

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Good.

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It's like a little recon
mission.

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And then Mickey actually asked
you to come and perform at an
art expo that she was doing in
Amsterdam.

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Yes.

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And I was like, and he had, uh,
three guys, right?

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Yeah.

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Or was it just one other guy?

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I had one friend of mine with me
in a percussion player from
Venezuela.

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Uh, we've been friends for some
time and, uh, you know,

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whenever I can, I hire him.

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He was just like banging on some
piece of wood like he was
sitting on a box, you know.

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It's called a cahoon and it's,
uh, replaces a full drum kit
basically and you play.

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Really?

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You play with two hands, it's
got a little snare inside, so it
sounds like a kid.

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I have two cahoones.

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Is that kind of the same thing?

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One cahoon, two cahoones?

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Yeah, you need big cahoones.

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So you don't have, uh, any
percussion with you today?

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No, it's just me.

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And, uh, you've got your fender,
uh, strata cast right in my
point out.

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Uh, you've got it.

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What kind of gear?

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Because we're plugged directly
into the board here, what you
got?

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Yes.

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I brought a little line six
device called the, uh, the
pocket pod,

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which is the smallest version of
the, of the line six pod.

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Uh-huh.

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So it fits in my gig back, so.

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Cool.

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So when you perform, what do you
do?

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Your own stuff?

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Do you do covers?

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Uh, basically I pay what people
want and I smile when they pay
me.

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It's a real treat to have you
here, because I think you're a
phenomenal musician.

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Thank you.

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And, uh, you know, I've been
trying over the, you know, past
day trying to, like, kind

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of spury on that just, uh, give
up the lowlands and come over
here and, uh,

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and give it a shot, man, because
you, you got a lot of talent,
and I think, uh,

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when people hear this, they'll
really, really enjoy what you're
doing.

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Thank you.

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And, uh, so what are you going
to do?

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Yeah, I'd love you just to play
as much as you feel like
playing, because this is, uh,

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you know, we don't have to,
like, hit the network news or
anything on the show.

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Yeah.

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So, uh, what would you like to
do?

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I was thinking of, uh, mixing it
up, playing a few covers, um,
you know,

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some well-known stuff, and maybe
a few originals as well, just,
uh, you know.

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Okay.

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Let me, yeah.

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Just give me a little vocal
here, so I can set your reverb
back.

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Okay.

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Go ahead.

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Hey.

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Mmm.

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Mmm.

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That's for you.

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Nice.

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All right.

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You better come on.

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Take it away, man.

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[ Music ]

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The thief you kind of spoke.

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There are many here on my
nerves.

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Who know the life is just a
joke.

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But you will not weave Ben
through that, yes.

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And this is not our fate, no,
no.

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So little, snotspeak falls in
our arms.

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[ Music ]

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And of course, you played my
theme song here in the watch
tower.

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I love it, man.

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It's awesome.

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I just realized we got an
audience here.

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But they only hear you singing.

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You don't hear as guitar, right?

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It's like, and it still sounds
good.

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Dude, I was just thinking about
this.

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We got to do something about the
name.

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I want to make it here.

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You could be like, what can we
make it?

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First of all, I was thinking of
cutting off the Birkin and just
going with Bosch because it's
like a powerful like Bosch.

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Yeah.

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Although Birkin has a ring to it
though.

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It's like, you Birkin, you
Bosch.

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Birkin stock.

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Yeah, you'll be big and
Berkeley.

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Yes.

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Okay, we'll work on that.

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I'm sure some of the chuckle
heads out there might have some
ideas.

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You want to play one of your own
tunes?

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Absolutely.

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Alright, hold on.

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Go for it.

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This is a song called Something
Good.

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Something good.

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Dude, did you like come out of
the womb with that voice and the
chops like that?

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Just like born with it?

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Yeah, it's awesome.

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That's a great song.

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When do you write that?

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About 2005, I think.

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Really?

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Go ahead and have a drink of
water.

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I'll compliment you while you're
doing that.

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I've been picking hit songs all
my life on the radio.

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That is definitely a hit.

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That's a great song.

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It's hokey, it's nice, it's what
I think people are wanting to
hear.

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You got a record deal or
anything like that?

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I got nothing.

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Yeah, it's talking musician.

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We love it.

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Perfect.

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I'm basically playing tourist
bars and Amsterdam doing cover
stuff.

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I play my own stuff whenever I
can, but usually the bartenders
like us to play.

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The stuff that people know, so
they buy more drinks, so the
bartenders make more money.

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Right.

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But yeah, I do a little gigs
here and there with my own
stuff.

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I've done a few bigger things.

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I was a finalist on a pretty big
live music competition back
home.

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Yeah, what's that?

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That's the Hrotoprace.

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This is a sponsored by the
government.

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It's a cultural department of
culture, prize or something.

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Yes, it's them in Hainick and I
think.

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Yeah, that's a Dutch government
works with Hainick.

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Can you, of course, they do.

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All right, cool.

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All right.

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And did that get you any
traction?

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Did that work for you?

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No, no.

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No, no.

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No, no.

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And free beer.

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Well, I got, uh, there was like
an events company out there.

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They scattered me and they hired
me for some cool stuff.

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Uh-huh.

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For the world famous Johan Krav
Foundation.

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Okay, sure.

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Stuff like that.

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Sure.

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Got hired to do some promotional
stuff for, you know.

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But nothing, nothing serious.

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So when you look at the music
business today, I mean, what do
you see the future?

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What do you think you'll be
doing and what, what approach
you're taking?

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Because I presume you want to do
this, right?

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This is what, this is your
passion, right?

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Oh, yeah.

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Well, I've recently got an in
touch with some people back home
that are wanting to help

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me out.

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There's like a small group of
independent people that are
trying to conquer the world, as

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we're all trying to.

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Sure.

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And what I really need right now
is I still don't have a
recording of my own

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stuff that I'm, you know, fully
happy with.

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So that's the first thing I'm
going to do when I go back home.

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Let's be pretty easy to find
people who can know.

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I mean, these days with, you
know, max and pro tools and
everything that should be

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reasonably easy.

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I mean, this will, this will be
something you can enjoy
listening to.

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I don't think it's exactly what
you want from a demo.

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Not quite what you want.

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Well, with you on it, my hair.

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Well, do whatever we can.

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I'd love for you to do a song by
request for me, because I heard
you do this.

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Actually, I talked about this on
the show a couple of weeks ago.

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I heard you do this at the, at
the art expo.

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And I was like, oh my god, the
first of all, the fact that
anyone,

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under 40 knows this song.

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Right.

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Second of all, would play it.

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I was like, it just blew me
away.

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It's a real mother for you.

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Johnny Guitar Watson was like,
oh, yeah.

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I mean, if you always had this
in your repertoire, pretty much.

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Johnny Guitar Watson is one of
my favorite all-time artists.

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What happened to him?

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Is he still alive?

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I think you had a heart attack
in Japan on stage, actually.

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Really?

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And he passed away?

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He died.

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What a way to go.

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Mid 90s.

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Yeah.

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But it had like sparks coming
out of the guitar.

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That would have been even
better.

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Go down in flames.

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Yeah.

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It's either on stage or in bed
with a beautiful woman, right?

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I mean, if you're going to get a
heart attack, that's the way to
go.

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Hear that, Mick?

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Yeah.

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So who are your heroes?

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Is Johnny Guitar Watson one of
them?

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Uh, yes.

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Well, basically, I break my, my
musical background down into
like three components.

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Like, there's the stuff I grew
up around because my parents had
it,

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owned it or listened to it.

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Right.

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Add the same, sure.

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So that's what was that?

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What kind of stuff was that?

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Uh, that's like the late 60s,
early 70s rock.

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Okay.

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Cool.

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You see, I grew up with like
peppermint twist and crap like
that.

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I know all the 50 songs.

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No, no.

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I was like, uh, yeah, I listened
to Rolling Stones, Jimmy
Hendrix.

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All right.

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That kind of stuff.

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Right.

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And then, uh, when I was a
teenager, I was, I was a big fan
of Red Hot Chili

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Peppers, uh, stuff like that.

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Funky, funky stuff.

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And then through the funk I
discovered, you know, jazz
through players like Marcus

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Marcus, Marcus, Marcus, Marcus.

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Sure, sure.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And he mingus?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The whole, like, the real
series, jazzy jazz stuff.

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Right.

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I mean, I love it, but I can't
do it.

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So stay away from requires
actual talent.

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And, and a lot of drugs, I
think.

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Those guys must be way high to
do that stuff.

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I think you have to be.

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Yeah.

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How about Prince?

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You're a fan of Prince.

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Well, a huge fan of Prince.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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And that guy's amazing.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Everybody says you're genius.

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But he actually is.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Get to room for the foil.

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Got to go to a disco.

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And throw your troubles away.

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Got to dance, dance to the music
and baby.

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That's a DJ play.

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But then the lights come on,
alone.

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Just like a new day would.

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Like a new day would.

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Get to room for the foil.

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Make you want to run for color.

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And if you look, you will
discover.

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Get to room for the foil.

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Oh man.

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You got to let your own
percussion.

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Everything going on there.

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The same time is great.

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It was tricky.

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And do you consider yourself
more a guitarist play a singer
or a combo?

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Generally, I try to stay away
from the whole singer songwriter
thing, which is technically what
I am.

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People kind of turn that into a
genre.

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Yeah, like jewel.

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Right, even though it's more of
a job description.

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Technically, Jimmy Hendrix was a
singer songwriter.

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Oh, hell yeah.

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No, I see.

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I'm a guitarist singer singer.

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Yeah.

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You got to look though, man.

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I think you know, you do
something with like, I don't
know.

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What do you wear on stage?

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Jeans and shirts.

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Girls, we need to give this guy
a look.

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Yeah, you got it in you know,
you really do.

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Thank you.

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People usually say, I'm like,
like Michael McDonald meets Eric
Laptant type of thing.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, I can't see where that
comes from.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm not old.

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No.

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You're saying I don't know the
compliment.

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I'd love to hear some more of
your own stuff.

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Sure, sure.

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Yeah.

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Go ahead and have some water
there.

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Can I get some background vocals
on this?

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No, because because my sister's
there, she knows the song.

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But I can't say.

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Doesn't matter.

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This is a, this is a song
called, called You Should Be
Here With Me.

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And it does.

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I don't care.

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I don't care.

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All right.

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All right.

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We're getting the whole family
involved now.

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Exactly.

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So if you just stand in behind
me, but that'll be great.

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No, a little closer.

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We're going to be able to hear
it.

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All right.

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Well, it's, it's real simple.

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All you have to do is sing along
with me on the courses.

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You should be here with me.

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You know that song.

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Yeah, because this, this is the,
the audience participation

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Proclamation song.

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Yeah.

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Doesn't work without.

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All right.

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So here we go.

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Here we go.

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[ Music ]

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But I'm positive that no one
could ever come and take your
place

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I know you never meant to leave
me stranded

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You never planned to leave so
soon

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[ Music ]

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Whatever they say, I still need
you here tonight

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Because you should be

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Here with me

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You should be here with me

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[ Music ]

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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You should be here with me

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[ Music ]

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When I run and hide, need your
touch so bad, only your hands
can reveal.

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I'm sitting here, I'm listening
with my eyes closed, I can't
place your voice, it's really
unique, and this is going to
sound really weird, but the
closest, does anyone ever
compare you to anybody, they say
you sound like,

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everyone hates when you do that.

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When they hear you do stuff,
they want to give you
compliments, so they like or
know, so I usually get, oh,
yeah, you have a beard and long
hair and a guitar, so you're
Eric Clapton,

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you know you're John Legend, you
know you're Michael McDonald, I
get those are few names.

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First of all, John Legend is our
neighbor here, and he better
watch his house, you'll be
moving in, but I have to say a
white Stevie Wonder.

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I had my eyes closed, and it's
meant as a compliment, obviously
who can be Stevie Wonder, but
you've got something,

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and by the way, it was a
beautiful, beautiful chord jazz,
that's really, really nice
stuff. Do you place Stevie
Wonder, do you do any of his
stuff?

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I, yeah. I'm going to put you on
the spot or anything.

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Actually, I used to do
superstition.

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That's really tricky with that
percussion, but maybe some
handclaps, we can make it
happen.

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How about some cowbell? How
about some cowbell?

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Are you going to glue me into
where we do the cowbell, no?

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[ Music ]

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Superstition in the way.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm trying to listen to the
strings of the guitar.

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Now you know why I play the
records, not make them.

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Do you want to do one more just
to play his home, your favorite
song?

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One of my favorite songs has to
be Marvin Gaseong.

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[ Music ]

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Said I heard it through the
grapevine.

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All right, that's beautiful,
man.

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That's great.

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Thank you.

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So I think I figured it out.

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I think it should be, I think
you keep the Birkenboss.

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Just keep it like Birkenboss.

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Not Bosch because they can't
figure that out here.

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And they say, but you just gotta
be John.

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Just John Birkenboss.

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I mean, it sounds good.

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You know, it sounds like like
you've got some years under your
belt.

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You know, you've been around the
Mississippi Delta.

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All right.

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I'm like that.

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I'm just saying you see that
wall there.

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And this wall, this brick wall.

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Yeah.

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So we got aerosmith, platinum
CDs, Michael Jackson, platinum
CDs.

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Next time you come back, we'll
have the John Birkenboss CDs
there.

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That's a deal.

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Yeah.

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I mean, really appreciate it.

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It's very cool for you to stop
by and do this for us.

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No, thank you so much.

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Yeah, you welcome.

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Anytime come back.

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And anything we can do for you.

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Maybe people will be reaching
out to who heard the show.

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Where can they reach in?

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Do you have email address?

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Uh, yes.

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The easiest thing to do would be
Google my name, which is
J-O-E-P.

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Yep.

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B-E-R-K-E-N-B-O-S-E-H.

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And I got a dot com.

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I'm on my space.

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I'm on Facebook.

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All right, I'll put some links
in the show notes as well.

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DailySourceco.com.

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Some people can find you.

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All right.

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The great you back and bust
everybody.

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Yay.

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Thank you.